/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.9968423]

GRI APPROVED Edition.

>What's the Last GRI APPROVED sff book you read?
>How was it?
>Would you Recommend?

>/SFFG/ Recommendations:
FANTASY
Selected:
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General:
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Flowchart:
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SCIENCE FICTION
Selected:
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General:
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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[Anonymous No.9968447]

>>9968423
>>What's the Last GRI APPROVED sff book you read?
Unholy Consult

>How was it?
The GRIest thing I've ever read.

>Would you Recommend?
Yes. But it really would have been better if Great Ordeal and Unholy Consult were the same book.

[Anonymous No.9968453]

I just read the newish Winds of Winter sample chapter. It was pretty GRI. Euron really is the final boss I guess. Shame the book will never come out and the show will continue with le finger in bum and yasss queen slay plots.

[Anonymous No.9968490]

What's the best wish fulfillment book?

I'm interested because typical generic hero as christ dragonball power up fantasy/scifi is always (rightly) shat on for being bad but I'm wondering if anyone's done it well without having to go and be subversive.

[Anonymous No.9968498]

>>9968423
It had female on male statutory rape (but it was consensual sex).

I just did a reread of this to see if I liked it any better. Ruff is one of my favorite writers but I thought it was meh on my first read. I did like it more this time but it's still one of his lesser novels. Gas, Sewer & Electric is fantastic however.

[Anonymous No.9968512]

>>9968490
The Dahak Trilogy be David Weber.

[Anonymous No.9968524]

>>9968498
>It had female on male statutory rape (but it was consensual sex).
Was it hot?

[Anonymous No.9968526]

>>9968498
Without spoilers I get what Ruff was trying to go for with the final act of the book but I didn't really care about the revelations.

Did reading it back knowing the revelations of the ending actually reveal anything else in the earlier chapters?

[Anonymous No.9968534]

Pretty good fantasy novel, actually, from veterans of the genre. Vikings mindlink with wolves to fight trolls.
Vikings mind linked with "queen" wolves get gang raped by all the other vikings when she breeds.
No incest tho.

[Anonymous No.9968549]

Posting edition-relevant sub-meme

>>9968404
>Dialect is generally a bad idea that people use as an attempt at characterization and voice instead of using actual personality and unique speech.

That's fair. I'm trying to use it to enhance the setting and make it feel mundanely foreign, and give clues about where different characters are from, and how their backgrounds relate, but I think it's not really worth the effort.

>Are you writing from a place of knowledge?

Yes, and I think this is why it's too easy for me to go overboard with phoneticism.

>>9968185

this: >>9965755
is mine, I will repost when I clean up the dialogue

>>9968114
>"With The Bentfin Boomer Boys On Little Old New Alabama"

Hnnngggg I need this

[Anonymous No.9968557]

>>9968423
>That pic

[Anonymous No.9968564]

>’nifykin look outha portole sreely pretty, sreely pretty, lookna Port Upotoi swinging roun thole mudball, thole goodole place, it’s maybe not the prettiest place na whole universe but nobody ever said it was, it was home though m that counted frole lot that swat Leander Laptip saw outha portole

Wow

[Anonymous No.9968565]

Can someone put the GRI in the Night Angel trilogy in a spoiler for me? I can't remember any of it, but you guys still give it the GRI stamp.

[Anonymous No.9968571]

>>9968534
>That cover
>Womeme authors
Isn't this just thinly veiled erotica for women?

[Anonymous No.9968574]

>>9968524
No, it wasn't hot unfortunately. There weren't any juicy details. It was further characterization to show she was morally grey.

>>9968526
The plot made more sense the second time instead of seeming random. You can see the build up coming to the end.

I agree that I didn't care about the revelations that much either. It got too crazy and I didn't care about the character. Even though she had a lot of personality, she just didn't click like the characters in Set This House in Order, which I'm going to reread next, and I know I'm going to enjoy the hell out of that one again.

[Anonymous No.9968584]

>>9968453
Any good books with lead characters as badass as is implied by the quote in that picture?

Sci-fi or fantasy, either.

[Anonymous No.9968590]

>>9968571
Author didn't pick the cover.
Also, sorta.
There's sex like, 4 times in the book? The rest is him learning how to do wolf things and fighting trolls and fucking a milf in town. It's erotica with plot.
Also, what's your point?

[Anonymous No.9968591]

>>9968490
Belgariad's plot is orphan farm kid is the chosen one to save the world from the dark lord. It's hack writing and totally pandering but one of my guilty pleasures.

[Anonymous No.9968592]

>>9968574
>Set This House in Order
this was good
surprised ruff gets any mention, haven't seen her talked about ANYWHERE

daryl gregory is a good writer that kinda reminds me of her

[Anonymous No.9968601]

>>9968584
>Any good books with lead characters as badass as is implied by the quote in that picture?
No, only antagonists get to be that badass.

[Anonymous No.9968608]

>>9968590
>and fucking a milf in town
Hmm.
>Also, what's your point?
I was just wondering if it was really a good fantasy novel or if you liked it for... other reasons.

[Anonymous No.9968616]

This one of my favorites, I find my sealf rereading it regularly, but it's been buried in obscurity, anyone else whos read it what did you think?

[Anonymous No.9968619]

>>9968584
>Any good books with lead characters as badass as is implied by the quote in that picture?
You mean tipping fedora and unsheating katakana while preparing to teleports behind you badass? I mostly see that in fanfiction desu.

[Anonymous No.9968628]

>>9968619
>katakana
*Katana
You're drunk, autocorrect.

[Anonymous No.9968630]

>>9968608
Really good? Depends on what you think it qualifies a good book.
I really enjoyed it because I like Historical novels, people acting not quite human, young men learning how to adapt to a strange environment, and young men taking on "female" roles, including taking care of everyone else (in a non sexual way). The fighting was okay, I guess. Nothing special (just men against trolls) but not badly done at all. The sex was just a cherry on top. If there wasn't any, I would have enjoyed it just as much.

I think it's good, but I don't know if it's better than that.

[Anonymous No.9968637]

>>9968584

Logen Ninefingers in Joe Abercrombie's First Law Trilogy is feared by everyone who knows him, but hes not very cocky about it like that picture.

[Anonymous No.9968663]

>>9968592
I've been a fan of Ruff since I found Fool on the Hill and I've been reading him chronologically. I haven't gotten around to Lovecraft Country and The Mirage but they're definitely on my list. Another of my favorites is Jeff Noon who I rarely see mentioned here.

Thanks for the Daryl Gregory recommendation. He looks like a writer I'd be into. The /sffg/ hivemind keeps talking about the same authors. Any others you like?

[Anonymous No.9968664]

The Vox Box:
https://my.mixtape.moe/wwgzxt.zip

YUGE and fast fantasy and science fiction torrents:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:3CC0E1D3FFF491051E03E654128B544B142A818B&dn=Fantasy&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337%2fannounce

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:6E5356CC9A58585B97BC1C2E6D2019E18D0C486F&dn=Science%20Fiction&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337%2fannounce

[Anonymous No.9968675]

>>9968664
How huge are we talking?

[Anonymous No.9968697]

>>9968675
I might have exaggerated with YUGE but it's basically two gigabytes of txt files and some other formats for each torrent.

[Anonymous No.9968763]

As much as I disliked this book, it was exactly what I needed. Yes, I'm the same guy from a few threads ago - I finished all six hundred fucking pages of this travesty.

And it was actually okay. Helped to cleanse my palate after marathoning the entire Prince of Nothing series.

[Anonymous No.9968768]

>>9968763
what did the prince of nothing series fuck up your brain?

[Anonymous No.9968780]

>>9968768
No, it's just an actually good series. This was nice and mindless.

[Anonymous No.9968784]

Anyone know the name of that shitty YA book about a self sustaining dome city in a post apocalyptic ice age.

The main protagonist is some kid who's dad died.

[Anonymous No.9968813]

>>9968565
It was full GRI. All three happening at once, and separately and in pairs.
Butts were buggered, gays were incestedly raped.

How can you not remember? Are you the skim/speedread anon?

[Anonymous No.9968819]

>>9968534
>What lengths will you go to ---
>for your boner and for the love of your wolf?

[Anonymous No.9968831]

>>9968564
Ahwahrn'd 'ew, didn'eye?

[Anonymous No.9968845]

>>9968819
That's what I saw too.

[Anonymous No.9968880]

>>9968813
No, I'm a very anonymous anon in this general.
I read the books in my teens sometime, and can't remember any explicit GRI. Some was more or less stated or implied, but nothing was described/experiences first-hand as far as I can remember.

For example that friend of Azoth who ended up selling his body was, I think, only said to occur.

[Anonymous No.9968884]

How's your book coming along? Rate my idea. It would be a one and done book, fairly large, but no chancr of being a series.

[bio-digital fantasy, postcyberpunk, grimdark]

This science fantasy epic explores an endless global war in a world with evolutionary magic, framed in an expedition by a young genius who discovers and is subsequently trapped on perhaps the most treacherous planet in the universe in search of a seemingly limitless energy source.

[Anonymous No.9968908]

>>9968884
Sounds like potentially good YA.

[Anonymous No.9968934]

>>9968908
YA might be the way to go. It would definitely sell better. Ideally it'd be something in between Hunger Games and ASOIAF in terms of explicit content.

[Anonymous No.9968979]

>>9968880
Did your mommy read you the books or something?
>first pubbed 2008
>read in my teens
... How teens were you?

[Anonymous No.9968989]

>>9968549
Why is she only wearing underwear? That's horribly sexist and wrong

[Anonymous No.9968992]

>>9968557
what about it. it"s an just the old book cover

[Anonymous No.9969024]

Is there an epub or mobi that collects all of CAS's Zothique stories? I know they're all uploaded at.eldritchdark.com, but I'd like them on my PC in a single ebook file.

[Anonymous No.9969057]

>>9968979
>implying 2008 wasn't 9.5 years ago
He could have read it when he was 13 years old and still be old enough to drink anon.

[Anonymous No.9969061]

>>9969057
pls stop

[Anonymous No.9969066]

>>9968992
>SFFG of the Tower of Torture and Sin
>Anonette having Wolfe tied up
>GRI approved
Come on.

[Anonymous No.9969072]

>>9969066
>implying he isn't just pretending to be tied up

[Anonymous No.9969075]

>>9968989
I wouldn't mind only wearing a bikini in the company of Wolfe desu.

[Anonymous No.9969094]

>>9969024
I think they are included in this:
http://www17.zippyshare.com/v/2673553/file.html

[Anonymous No.9969116]

>>9969075
You shouldn't mind wearing a bikini in the presence of /lit/ then

[Anonymous No.9969145]

>>9969094
Thanks, bruh.

[Anonymous No.9969166]

Gonna write a fantasy about a war between lizardmen and mermen.

[Anonymous No.9969168]

>>9969166
Will the mermen be traps?

[Anonymous No.9969172]

>>9969166
Very important. Fish and or lizard breasts, yes/no?

[Anonymous No.9969176]

>>9969168
>Fishboys getting hot lizard dick
Would read

[Anonymous No.9969178]

Huh, the fantasy torrent is remarkably incomplete for gigabits of text.

[Anonymous No.9969182]

>>9969178
What in particular are you missing?

[Anonymous No.9969185]

>>9969182
Well I just finished way of kings so I was hoping maybe I could grap the sequel but there's only 4 books in the brandonson map. he's made like a billion.

[Anonymous No.9969191]

>>9969178
It really should have been compressed.

[Anonymous No.9969276]

>>9968884
>Rate my idea. I

[Anonymous No.9969505]

Recommend me fantasy with a trap protagonist please.

[Anonymous No.9969683]

What do you think of Alvin the Maker saga? I've read a lot of things from Orson Scott Card and I've pretty much liked everything.

[Anonymous No.9969852]

>>9969683
I've only read the first four and I enjoyed them. I heard the last book was weak so I'm not sure if I'll bother to return to the series.

[Anonymous No.9970064]

>>9968979
I was about 17 years old I think and read them about 7 years ago. I can't fucking remember. Stop being a dick.

[Anonymous No.9970152]

>>9969176
seconded

[Anonymous No.9970158]

>>9968664
>>9969149
>the fuck? No, the text is really poor resolution!

You don't know how ebooks quality works?

The rest of y'all: these torrents are almost entirely made up of .txt files with no chapters, formatting, etc. You're better off getting these books elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.9970164]

>>9968616
I haven't even seen it mentioned but it looks interesting, will check it out. Thanks, anon

[Anonymous No.9970187]

So I'm reading through the Three Body Problem trilogy right now anons. I'm only a couple pages into the third one so no spoilers please. That post might contain spoilers for the first two books though.

I quite liked the first one, I got a 'Fine Structure' (an episodic novel published on qntm.net in the 2000s) vibe from it, the whole chinese thing was a fun way to learn about their history and that was also nice. I liked most of the characters, and overall really left me wanting to know what happens next.

The next book however... I still like it, but every single character feels weaker. The waifu fag is the most boring protagonist ever, the only fun character is Da Shi in my opinion.
Out of the four wallfacers, one spends most of the book jerking off to his waifu before he gets a good idea at the end, one is actually pretty interesting with his mind seal thing, but the other two...
First there's mister giant atomic bomb. His cover up plan is non existent, just stockpiling bombs for the sake of it is stupid. And his actual plan... While interesting, it's also stupid because of the sheer amount of bombs needed.
Then there's mister mosquito swarm. Again, his cover up plan is stupid, he's just putting people inside guided missiles because "muh AI isn't good enough for guided missiles" when that's blatantly untrue. His actual plan makes a bit more sense, but given that the Trisolarians don't even understand the concept of lying, maybe blowing up the whole planetary defense force just to convince them is a bit excessive.
And then there's the whole fiasco of the battle with the first probe, I mean, yeah, sure, for our first encounter with the technologically superior enemy force we've been anticipating for centuries, let's just send our entire fleet in parade formation, at the lowest possible crew readiness level, what could possibly go wrong? How these idiots didn't think that a combat operation isn't a photo op is beyond me. Really took me out of the book.

But overall I'd still say I'm liking the books and looking forward to reading the third one. What did you guys think of these books?

[Anonymous No.9970203]

What was the last thing you read and why wasn't it written by Gene Wolfe?

[Anonymous No.9970207]

[Anonymous No.9970242]

What are some fantasy books that feature interracial cuckolding?

[Anonymous No.9970265]

>>9970242
Please leave, Sweden.

[Anonymous No.9970266]

>>9970242
anon I think you're better off reading hentai

[Anonymous No.9970275]

Does GRI approve of the first Thomas Covenant trilogy? If so, that, if not I really don't remember.

[Spoiler]I hated the first book in the second trilogy and didn't bother reading the rest after finishing it[/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.9970326]

>>9968423
Anybody just been re-readingbooks from their childhood instead of starting new series?
The lioness quartet still does it for me almost two decades on.

>>9970266
This, couldn't understand the appeal of cuckholding until I saw elf maidens get defiled.
Now I sort of get the destruction desire, like seeing a creampie in a porn and knowing the dumb slut is gonna get pregnant.

[Anonymous No.9970424]

>>9970326
>that manga

[Anonymous No.9970448]

I liked Quantum Thief.

[Anonymous No.9970519]

are the novels of Trudi Canavan good or is it just fantasy for kids or YA (aka manchildren)

[Anonymous No.9970527]

>>9970187
I enjoyed them. Nice solid sci-fi with clear oriental influences. It read differently.

[Anonymous No.9970547]

Any novels with a little girl protag?

[Anonymous No.9970550]

>>9970527
It sure does read differently. I'm reading an english translation, so I'm not sure how much of it is my own expectations, how much is the translator's style, but some sentences do sound... asian I guess?

Also please tell me I'm not the only one who had a comprehensive plan for the defense of the solar system? I'm at work right now so I pcan't really take the time to type it all up, but I might later. I'm looking forward to getting to the actual invasion to see what their ships really are capable of so I can find out whether my plan would have worked or not.

[Anonymous No.9970597]

Hi guys, I'm writing a sci-fi epic.

Just wanted to know, since I'm actually fairly new to /lit/, I'm going through your list of selections posted here and picking out what to read, but I have a very specific interest -

Sci-fi sans aliens, or at least without life more intelligent than humans, where it is explored what happens when the limits of human capability and science are pushed - for lack of a more obscure example, Dune, with its prescience. Is there any similar book that I should look at first?

[Anonymous No.9970604]

>>9970597
I guess Dick would be interesting to you. (I mean Philip K., not rods, fag).

[Anonymous No.9970620]

>>9970547
Lolita

[Anonymous No.9970627]

>>9970604
You know, I never really liked The Man in the High Castle.

[Anonymous No.9970630]

>>9970620
I'm not a pedo.

no thanks

[Anonymous No.9970636]

>>9970627
Me neither actually. But I'm a big fan of his more wacky stuff with mutants and colonies on the moons of Saturn, mostly short novels Minority Report is great (so much better than the movie) for instance.
So yeah, read his short novels.

>>9970630
>I'm not a pedo.
What a fag, come on, it's 2017

[Anonymous No.9970638]

>>9970547
Let's face it, no one is ever going to write better, cuter or purer lolis than NK Jemisin in western fiction.

[Anonymous No.9970650]

>>9970636
>So yeah, read his short novels.

I will, he's one of those authors I heard and read about, you end up reading the most popular novel and then you kinda forget.

Like with Tolstoy, although I loved Anna Karenina I was a little eh about reading anything else, and then War and Peace just blew me away (even though everybody said it's too dense and so on).

[Anonymous No.9970671]

>>9970064
2010 was only 15 years ago. Why can't you remember?

[Anonymous No.9970696]

Lord of the Rings collection has a 4.47 rating and the Great Book of Amber has a 4.31, so why do you all keep pushing Wolfe when BotNS only has a 4.15?

inb4 "goodreads is for plebs" that's not the point. Every anon is a stranger and unless they list specific taste, it makes sense to assume they'll like what most other people like, and overall, people seem to like both Tolkien and Zelazny better than Wolfe.

[Anonymous No.9970706]

>>9970158
>Convert from txt to epub/mobi
>??????
>profit
I'm sure there are programs that allow you to chapterize an epub by space or seeing the words "chapter" followed by a number. And font? I thought people changed fonts from retail books regularly. And I'm sure this program does it in batch.
If I have a program that splits multiple audiobooks mp3s into "chapters" by recognizing the space (pause) the narrator takes before starting a new chapter. Then there is a batch program to convert multiple txt files into epub/mobi and chapterize automatically.

[Anonymous No.9970716]

>>9970527
>>9970187
>three shill problem anon is back
>starts to praise the series once again

[Anonymous No.9970725]

>>9970696

Thats enough autism for today anon.

[Anonymous No.9970729]

>>9970326
>implying legendary super aryan has a chance again pure blood masterrace

[Anonymous No.9970733]

>>9970696
>Goodreads

[Anonymous No.9970746]

>>9970696
>and overall, people seem to like both Tolkien and Zelazny better than Wolfe.
W R O N G

[Anonymous No.9970749]

>>9970547

[Anonymous No.9970755]

>>9970597

[Anonymous No.9970765]

>>9970696
>>9970696
I like both Wolfe and Zelazny better than Tolkien

[Anonymous No.9970782]

>>9968628
Its funnier as katakana

[Anonymous No.9970844]

>>9970716
That second post you quoted is me. I said in it that the first one was breddy gud but the second one was a lot weaker. How is that praising the series?

[Anonymous No.9970853]

>>9970746
Me on the right

[Anonymous No.9970905]

>>9970765
your charts suck and you suck many chart cock asshole

[Anonymous No.9970979]

>>9970187
The third one is the absolute greatest. Go and read it, son.

[Anonymous No.9970997]

>>9970716
>Three shill problem
>There are only two shills

[Anonymous No.9971015]

Is there a specific name for escapist fantasy like Narnia, Thomas Covenant and John Carter where the hero gets to leave a shitty situation for a wonderful fantasy land?

[Anonymous No.9971025]

>>9971015
Suicide?

[Anonymous No.9971029]

>>9971015
Yeah, http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagicalLand

[Anonymous No.9971068]

So, what's a sci-fi series with an actual decent plot and characters, and that isn't just a vehicle for the author's inane ideas and theories?

[Anonymous No.9971085]

>>9971015
Portal fantasy?

[Anonymous No.9971090]

>>9971068
Gateway by Frederick Pohl

[Anonymous No.9971184]

>>9971015
Isekai

[Anonymous No.9971224]

>>9970696
>and the Great Book of Amber has a 4.31
Not even Zelazny's best work so it's no surprise.

[Anonymous No.9971230]

>>9971090
but that is filled with advertising

[Anonymous No.9971232]

>>9971068
Blindsight

[Anonymous No.9971240]

>>9971224
What's Zelazny's best work? I've only read the Amber stuff.

[Anonymous No.9971245]

>>9971240
>What's Zelazny's best work?
Lord of Light.

[Anonymous No.9971261]

Just finished the Gormenghast trilogy, many strong feels. Peake is such a colourful writer.

[Anonymous No.9971282]

>>9971232
Fuck off blindshill your book sucks

[Anonymous No.9971294]

>>9971240
This immortal

[Anonymous No.9971295]

>>9970979
Well I bought it and I started it so I'm going to finish it, but this is reassuring, thanks.

[Anonymous No.9971301]

>>9971068
What's the point of even writing science fiction if you're not gonna use it to develop your ideas and theories? How do you even write a story set in the future without theorizing about what the future might look like?

[Anonymous No.9971309]

>>9971301
the mistake you're making is taking statements like that at face value
the problem isn't the presence of politics (which is what is being hidden inside the euphemism "ideas and theories") but their flavor

[Anonymous No.9971312]

>>9971309
So really what you're saying is, "what science fiction can you recommend that lines up with my own political views? I'm not going to tell you what they are, though!"

[Anonymous No.9971318]

Is Too Like the Lightning any good? is it GRI approved?

[Anonymous No.9971321]

>>9970706
>chapterize an epub by space or seeing the words "chapter" followed by a number

Yeah, if the file has that done consistently it might work. But I've already seen some broken formatting just by opening some random files of yours, so I'm not very sure.

In any case it's a lot of work and I'm better off just finding an epub collection or getting the books individually. Thanks for the content, I guess, but I'll pass.

[Anonymous No.9971343]

>>9971261
Why won't you go extinct.

[Anonymous No.9971358]

>>9971312
that's what those kinds of requests seem to be

[Anonymous No.9971368]

>>9971312
>So really what you're saying is
>sffg has only me and one other person
That wasn't the guy that wrote the original "ideas and theories" post you fucking cunt. Can't you see the way he types he is explaining something someone else wrote? What the fuck are you doing reading if you can recognise when someone else is explaining something and when someone is clarifying something?

[Anonymous No.9971376]

>>9971318
*no*

[Anonymous No.9971388]

>>9971368
Jeez anon no need to get mad. If you don't want someone to mistake you for another anon just preface your reply with "not the anon you were replying to, but...". Otherwise people might mistake you for someone else. And if they do it's no big deal.
Also that other anon is right, now that I think about it it does sound like that other other anon really meant "ideas I don't agree with" when he said "ideas". So thank you to that anon.

[Anonymous No.9971390]

>>9971321
>you're the guy who uploaded it huh
No I'm not. I'm not the uploader, I'm just a random anon helping. I have P R I V A T E for all my needs.

[Anonymous No.9971395]

>>9970519

I recall liking her Black Magician trilogy, however I was 14/15 at the time of reading, so probably.

[Anonymous No.9971411]

>>9971388
>If you don't want someone to mistake you
this is comedy gold

[Anonymous No.9971412]

>>9971388
He was right with the "ideas I don't agree with" but it's obvious when he types >>9971309
>the mistake you're making is taking statements like that at face value
>statements like that
It obvious he didn't write it.

[Anonymous No.9971423]

>>9971411
Explain please

>>9971412
Well I didn't reply to that post. Who's confusing anons now?

[Anonymous No.9971450]

>>9971423
>i was only pretending
>stoo being silly
>i know how 4chen works
>who confusing who now anon

[Anonymous No.9971491]

>>9971450
I'm not memeing anyone, I'm just genuinely confused at this point.

[Anonymous No.9971495]

>>9971423
>Explain please
you mixed up different anons again

[Anonymous No.9971520]

What's up /sffg/, I'm just popping by to say that if you happen to be a fan of fantasy I have good news. Light your pipes, brew some tea and pour a bit of whisky in it. Put on your favorite socks and get tucked into a blanket. Famous holocaust denier, suspect of manslaughter of fifteen black men and professional witch hunter Vox Day just made his Summa Elvetica FREE on Amazon for a LIMITED time only.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I4NY952/

When he's not busy getting negroid skulls closely acquainted with pavement he writes what is arguably the closest to the tradition of Tolkien. Partly a response to the cynical and mean spirited hack followers of Moorcock and party a love letter to the fantay tradition the Arts of Dark and Light series is unique. Read at your own risk, you might end up buying physical copies of the entire series.

[Anonymous No.9971569]

>>9971343
The genre classics are going to remain classics, anon. I'm quite happy that we're not just resigned to only talk about and read the current crop of popular YA on the market. Embrace dinocore.

[Anonymous No.9971582]

>>9971520
what off puts me about him is his staunch theism and christ cuckery

[Anonymous No.9971615]

Books about a group of people traveling between worlds? Narnia and The magicians excluded.

[Anonymous No.9971642]

>>9971582
That's the hallmark of a good writer though, they always write with purpose and portray human affairs in a beautiful manner. It's easy to tip one's fedora and shit all over everything and everyone, like say Gurm does. It is much harder, I would argue, to maintain the hopeful but bittersweet optimism of faith.

I would also argue that it's the precise opposite of cuckery to embrace one's own culture and tradition.

[Anonymous No.9971647]

>>9969505

Seconding

[Anonymous No.9971655]

>>9971642
unless christianity becomes something like W40K it is inherently cucked (turn the other cheek, love your enemy). not even to mention the degenerates that present modern church

[Anonymous No.9971661]

>>9971615
The Fionavar Tapestry.

[Anonymous No.9971672]

>>9971642
>It is much harder, I would argue, to maintain the hopeful but bittersweet optimism of faith
But is it more true?

[Anonymous No.9971695]

>>9971655
>Unless something is as grimderp as wh40k it's cucked
Come on, anon.
>>9971672
Without a doubt.

[Anonymous No.9971757]

>>9970242

Check the Hugo award list

[Anonymous No.9971808]

>>9971491

Is this whole exchange the 21st century equivalent of
>"who's on first base?"
>"No, Hu's on second!"
>"Who?!"

[Anonymous No.9971905]

>>9971642
>like say Gurm does.
Gurm's nothing. If you want real cynicism read Bakker.

[Anonymous No.9971977]

Please just post the last 5 fantasy books you last read. I want this post to have at least 5 (you)s because I am almost giving up reading fantasy. I think I may have set my requirements too high, nothing is fun anymore.

[Anonymous No.9972004]

>>9968423
Can you guys recommend me a ebook reader?, been using Neosoar book since like 2013

[Anonymous No.9972028]

>>9972004
Android with FBReader.

[Anonymous No.9972064]

>>9971977

First two elric of melnibone books
Before/during, reread first six black company books.

These are the last books I finished, I've been picking up and dropping books ADD style. Dropped ghormenghast because even though it was an illustrated edition the pics didn't show up in the epub and I felt like I'd be missing out without them. Currently working on shadow of the torture, rereading Conan collection, and trying to finish city of saints and madmen. About half the stories in the latter are compelling, can't stop till they're finished types, and the other half are a chore to read. I tend to stall when I hit a chore story so I've started and stopped CoSaM like three times

[Anonymous No.9972083]

>>9971977
Unholy Consult
Great Ordeal
Baptism of Fire
Lord of Light
Gardens of the Moon (I didn't finish it, does that count)?

[Anonymous No.9972098]

Opinions on Acts of Caine, /sffg/?

[Anonymous No.9972121]

>>9972098
My will or I won't.

[Anonymous No.9972134]

>>9972028
Forgot to mention, it's for my tablet

[Anonymous No.9972140]

>>9972098
>Raithe of the Boedecken (Act of Remembrance) (Expected publication 2017)
From his wiki but I know it's a lie cause nothing good ever happens.
Though even Megan Whalen Turner released a new novel this year so miracles can happen.

[Anonymous No.9972201]

>>9971977
Journeys of the Catechist (trilogy), Alan Dean Foster, 1998
Dreamsnake, Vonda N. McIntyre, 1978
Daughter of Regals & Other Tales, Stephen Donaldson, 1984
Beyond the Dar Al-Harb, Gordon R. Dickson, 1985
Trail of the Seahawks, Ardath Mayhar & Ron Fortier, 1987
Anon, if your requirements are too high, I think we know where the problem lies.

[Anonymous No.9972212]

>>9969505
>>9971647
Go to sadpanda and use this phrase
male:tomgirl language:english
Enjoy

[Anonymous No.9972479]

>>9971318
Yes

[Anonymous No.9972491]

Just finished a fire upon the deep on /sffg/ Rec, a delightful Sci fi romp that checks all the boxes. Overall I'd give it an 8/10. I liked it less then the hyperion cantos but still a very solid adventure story. What did you think about it?


What should I read next? I'm thinking about book of the new sun.

[Anonymous No.9972500]

>>9970550
I have one too but it's pretty much based off Stephen Baxter's books. Basically a dust screen goes a long way when you're fighting at relativistic speeds. Also weaponize every single chunk or rock in the system.

[Anonymous No.9972509]

>>9971977
Fantasy in general is weak as fuck and does a bad job of recycling Tolkien's shjt over and over again. Meme of the Wind was terrible even if its writing was alright

[Anonymous No.9972571]

>>9972098
looks pretty edgy

[Anonymous No.9972587]

>>9972509
>he doesn't read pre-Tolkien fantasy
Get a clue, mark.

[Anonymous No.9972619]

>>9971977
Guards, Guards!
Reaper Man
The Children of Hurin
Merlin's Booke
The Last Days of New Paris

[Anonymous No.9972633]

>>9971240

For A Breath I Tarry is the best short story ever.

[Anonymous No.9972656]

>>9971977

Anthony Ryan - Raven's Shadow Trilogy
Glen Cook - Chronicles of the Black Company
Scott Lynch - The Lies of Locke Lamora
Gene Wolfe - Shadow and Claw
GRRM - Dunk and Egg stories

[Anonymous No.9972736]

>>9970275
Second Trilogy is good stuff. The characters aren't as good as the first but there's some amazing imagery.

[Anonymous No.9972737]

>>9970519
A little of both, desu

[Anonymous No.9972744]

>>9971015
Like anon said, it's Portal Fantasy and try Lev Grossman.

[Anonymous No.9972768]

>>9971977
Prof Croft series
Crystal Shard series
Harbinger PI series
Mr Penumbra's 24 Hour Bookstore
Haven series

If you set your requirements anywhere, they're too high. If you want to pass a day in the alley drinking Old Crow, come see me.

[Anonymous No.9972782]

>>9972140
>Megan Whalen Turner
What book? I'm over the moon for the Thief and the first two sequels are great, but the fourth book has a wounded bitterness that doesn't belong in the series. Did she get better?

[Anonymous No.9972791]

>>9972744

I see that there are a lot of poor ratings from women for The Magicians on Goodreads, I might give it a crack.

[Anonymous No.9972828]

>>9972491
>checks all the boxes
I heard there is no explicit GRI. No puppy sluts, no teenage space girls taking knots.

[Anonymous No.9972830]

Do you think there will be a problem if I make multiple references to my otherwise non-edgy non-evil protagonists eating clown meat in a YA novel?

It's established that they're not human, though it's not really clear what they are other than deeply unnatural

[Anonymous No.9972844]

>>9971068
Book of the New Sun

[Anonymous No.9972846]

>>9972768
>Haven series
By Bv Larson? That was complete shit his fantasy is trash, but scifi is enjoyable. This is coming from the undying mercenaries shill.

[Anonymous No.9972852]

>>9971520
This guy has always struck me as kind of autistic but I read the description and it actually sounds readable. One day I might get around to him.

[Anonymous No.9972854]

>>9972846
I did not find it to be any more trash than his other books, which I also liked.

How was it notably worse than Mercenaries?

[Anonymous No.9972943]

Gonna write a story about an American astronaut in the near-future getting accidentally transported to a sword and sorcery planet via an experiment gone wrong. He's gonna have a robot sidekick while trying to comprehend shit like demons and evil gods and magic existing on another planet.

[Anonymous No.9973064]

>>9971615
The Long Earth series by Pratchett.

[Anonymous No.9973130]

>>9972491
>fire upon the deep predicted tablets and ereaders before tablet and ereaders
>dog reading ereader
>tap on word and definition shows up
Scifi really influences the world. From scientists actually trying to make an enterprise ship, to engineers making ereaders.

[Anonymous No.9973183]

>>9972854
Cliche, plotholes, farm boy is the chosen one from a long line of warrior kings with battle magic, the stupid girl that gets them into trouble who the mc follows because he wants to stick her, etc

[Anonymous No.9973186]

>>9972943
The robot will die from lack of renewable energy.

[Anonymous No.9973199]

>>9973186
Not if it's solar powered.

[Anonymous No.9973219]

>>9972830

I guess it depends on the context. I haven't read much YA since I was a YA myself, so I don't really know the contemporary standards of decency

[Anonymous No.9973272]

>>9973186
If only there was some way a repetitive motion performed by an organic being could generate power. Perhaps a cylindrical receptacle in which a rod shaped object could be thrust in an out of to create an alternating magnetic/electrical field?

[Anonymous No.9973278]

>>9973272
L-Lewd

[Anonymous No.9973310]

>>9973272
>tfw every story idea I pitch keeps being degraded into gay sex

[Anonymous No.9973323]

>>9968534
Chicks writing about men. Lol. That looks like some mills and boon shit mate.

[Anonymous No.9973334]

>>9973310
>writes a story wherein the robots are fully membered
There's only one reason to do that so you brought it upon yourself.

[Anonymous No.9973339]

>>9972098
Teleports behind you.

[Anonymous No.9973345]

>>9973310

whats gay about it? its basically masturbation

[Anonymous No.9973381]

>>9973334
>>9973345
l-leave my story pitches alone!

[Anonymous No.9973547]

How did we go from this...

[Anonymous No.9973549]

Any PKD recommendations senpai?
Currently reading Ubik - alright so far.

[Anonymous No.9973554]

... to this? Seriously, what happened to fantasy book covers? Even obscure garbage used to have amazing artwork and eye catching designs.

[Anonymous No.9973589]

>>9973554
>>9973547
>back in my day covers used to mean something and were hand drawn
>not these gibble gabble collage of photoshop on someone's black box

[Anonymous No.9973616]

>>9973589
Even the cheap pulp magazines had nice illustrations on the covers. So much for "progress".

[Anonymous No.9973621]

>>9973549
The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch. It's like Ubik but better and has best boy Palmer Eldritch in it.

[Anonymous No.9973622]

>>9973554
I hate the minimalist design trend too, but I think it's preferable over terrible cover art that might actually dissuade potential readers. At worst the art for pic related comes across as neutral: it could either be good, mediocre or shit. Whereas your average person's first instinct upon seeing truly terrible cover art is thinking the book must be just as terrible as well.

[Anonymous No.9973700]

>>9972782
Thick as Thieves, and I love it. IMO much better than A Conspiracy of Kings. Kamet, the Mede's servant from the previous books is the main character in this one.
When I think to myself that Sanderson churns out books like a machine and MWT does one every 4 or 5 years it's depressing
Or JV Jones, whose Sword of Shadows may be one of the best fantasy series I've read and it's been 7 years since the previous book...

[Anonymous No.9973707]

>>9973621
cheers mane

[Anonymous No.9973776]

>>9973547
>>9973554
The original Farseer Trilogy covers (Apprentice etc) are beautiful. Sometimes even the painted covers looked wonky (cause the artist was meh) but these were done by a really good one (Michael Whelan?)

[Anonymous No.9973821]

God, why is writing so hard? I'm wasting the setting, my narration is shit, the plot is patchy and has holes in it and the character motivations make no sense

[Anonymous No.9973830]

>>9973776
>Michael Whelan?
Yup, he's one of the best.

[Anonymous No.9973831]

>>9973821
it might be time for:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RocksFallEveryoneDies

[Anonymous No.9973833]

>>9973831
I don't want to give up though. I just want to fix it

[Anonymous No.9973842]

>>9973833
maybe take a short break and write a shorter piece in-universe. that might give you a different perspective when you get back to your magnum opus (lol)

[Anonymous No.9973846]

>>9973842
it's not my magnum opus. it's just my first novel. That said, I don't know if I'll manage to write a second one

[Anonymous No.9973854]

>>9973846
you might be burnt out and have led yourself into an awkward dead-end. I think writing a short story or two might help you figure out how you want to fix your plot/character holes

[Anonymous No.9973866]

>>9970853
How did you meet him?

[Anonymous No.9973868]

>>9971655
grow. up.

[Anonymous No.9973881]

>>9973310
You said nothing about the robot having a gender. Actually, YOU are the one that degraded your idea into gay sex.

[Anonymous No.9973918]

>>9971520
Is this actually good or is he one of those meme authors?

[Anonymous No.9974017]

>>9973918
complete meme

[Anonymous No.9974046]

>>9973918
Yes it's good, but since it's a collection of short stories the quality varies a bit.

[Anonymous No.9974073]

I'm bored. The time has come to finish WoT books 10-14, i hope Brandon Sanderson will not disappoint me with his ending. For the last 4 years i was skipping reading them because of slowness of plot to finish it.

[Anonymous No.9974082]

>>9973821
Western education has focused towards catering to women and minorities, as a result the things you should have learned in school like how to write well have fallen to the wayside.

>tfw you're struggling with the same thing

[Anonymous No.9974102]

>>9973821
To write all that you REALLY ESSENTIALLY 100% NEED is an understanding of humanity. Beyond that it's all a bonus. Being able to put together nice prose, elaborate lore, clever storytelling techniques and all the rest are worth nothing if you can't put together characters who act like human beings.

>>9973846
>novel
Don't fall for this meme because Brandon Sanderson says to. Start with short fiction or don't start at all. Nobody's going to be writing the next 'The Foundation' or 'Book of the New Sun' on their first try so don't even bother. Maybe after a thousand mediocre failures you'll produce the next Solomon Kane or something though, that's not so far-fetched. Even Gene Wolfe got rejection-letters for his short-fiction stacked up to the ceiling before he became King of Genre.

[Anonymous No.9974137]

>>9974102
>Don't fall for this meme because Brandon Sanderson says to
What did this retard say exactly?

[Anonymous No.9974151]

>>9974137
Write novels until you git gud. The joke is that he never got good.

[Anonymous No.9974155]

>>9974137
Nothing specifically that I can think of, I just know that he teaches novel-writing specifically to people who go in with presumably 0 writing experience, which is a sure way to create another generation of shonen-anime writers. Learn to write, then if you feel like it you can assemble a giant autism-tome of magic-systems, made up non-politics, battles between Arbalorian Assblasters and Zenoteq Zontatroops with 15 sequels planned before you set down the first word. He can't write, what he teaches and what every amateur in these threads seems to attempt is building settings rather than actually fucking writing.

If you want to write go read some Raphael Lafferty stories, absolute opposite of Sanderson and the rest. No rules, no form, just stories. He's like a charming rambling hobo only with an iq in quadruple digits. Nothing he writes makes any greater kind of sense but he's easily one of the greatest storytellers that ever lived.

[Anonymous No.9974174]

>>9974151
Well, he got good on the capeshit\blockbuster level good.
Prince of Nothing \ Malazan good requires dedication.

As for writing. IMHO is good idea to write a pile of short stories to practice. Setting and worldbullding are cheap, if you can't write and have shitty characters no one will read your super-duper-magic-system in post-scarcity space opera after WWIV with zombies.

[Anonymous No.9974184]

>>9974155
Why is Lafferty so underrated?

[Anonymous No.9974188]

>>9974184
to intelligent

Also he never wrote any autistic door-stoppers which nerds could get super-invested in memorizing all of the names of fictional cities and all the rest. Nobody cares about short-fiction anymore.

[Anonymous No.9974519]

>>9973821
>I'm wasting the setting
Maybe write the story for the sake of it and not for the autistic /tg/ wank?

[Anonymous No.9974842]

>>9970597
Maybe The Stars My Destination.

[Anonymous No.9974863]

>>9971977
The Green Knight's Squire (good, but deliberately juvenile)
The Master & Margarita (I liked it, and it's ~literary~)
Illuminatus! (had some good moments but Gravity's Rainbow was better)
Lyonesse (good)
Collection of Clark Ashton Smith short stories (Good if you aren't repulsed by his style)

[Anonymous No.9974886]

Is all Jack Vance stuff written in the weird style as the first couple of stories. I mean look at this:
>The creature in the cage returned the scrutiny with emotions beyond conjecture.
It reads so clunky to me, like it's a translation from another language done by a very literal-minded translator.

[Anonymous No.9974944]

>>9974886

[Anonymous No.9974959]

>>9973130
You know they had tablets and ereaders in 1993 right?

[Anonymous No.9974976]

>>9974886
The Dying Earth was the first thing Vance ever published. IMO it's actually a pretty bad introduction to his style. If it's not the clunkiest work he wrote, it's the clunkiest that ever gets recommended.

[Anonymous No.9974977]

>>9974886
Don't give me that shit, it's a legitimate question

[Anonymous No.9974980]

>>9974976
So just soldier on and it'll get better?

[Anonymous No.9974987]

I've heard Black Jewels is GRI. Can I get a quick rundown?

[Anonymous No.9975002]

>>9974137
I watched a few of his BYU lectures out of curiosity. He encourages a formulaic, pedestrian and conventional approach to novel writing. He stresses the importance of establishing a set of promises and expectations earlier on in the novel, and then satisfying them by the end of the book. This is done by deploying recognisable tropes from popular works. Here his knowledge of 70s-90s SF+F comes through, where he encourages riffing off ideas from Jim Butcher, Robin Hobb, Larry Niven, Terry Pratchett, as well as Tolkein.

So plot generation is a matter of using popular templates - travelogue, coming-of-age, revenge plot, romance - and resolving conflicts between characters, arcs and settings. Sanderson doesn't encourage experimentation, and there is very little about the short story form. It's a bit like learning how to write songs by studying the pop hits.

[Anonymous No.9975014]

>>9974886

People were just smarter back in those days and had a better vocabulary.

[Anonymous No.9975031]

>>9974886
Some of his stories, like the later Dying Earth tales, are more wryly comic, and loquacious. He also has a more taut and almost hard-boiled style in the Demon Princes books. He also wrote some detective fiction, presumably in a similar style. He can also write something with a more nostalgic and lyrical feel like Emphyrio. He does have versatility of tone while being recognizably Vancian.

One thing I noticed when I read Vance is how good he is at describing the way light falls and is diffused, as well as his dialogue. I think he writes women in an interesting way. He is also dense, most of the books covering a lot of ground in two hundred pages.

[Anonymous No.9975048]

>>9974987
>Womameme author

[Anonymous No.9975064]

>>9968565
Jarl is a gay prostitute for like the entire fucking series
Hu GIbbett rapes the hot apprentice wetgirl like for her entire adolescence and she is also raped by her stepfather i think
There is also definitely incest - in the end of the first book I think there is an incestuous scene between a (grand)mother and son in the castle, some Prince or some shit, and like Kyler or Durzo is nearby to witness it

[Anonymous No.9975085]

>>9969116
You know thats not actually a grill

[Anonymous No.9975093]

>>9970765
your chart is a piece of shit

[Anonymous No.9975367]

okay, ive decided what I need to do is clarify my characters motivations, make them seem slightly less clever early on to avoid making them look shit-flingingly retarded later, and for fuck's sake smooth out the plot distribution

[Anonymous No.9975379]

>>9971015

Read Celephais and The Quest of Iranon by Lovecraft.

[Anonymous No.9975498]

>>9968784
Gone?

[Anonymous No.9975521]

>>9971977
Lord of the Rings
Elantris
Harry Potter as a kid

I don't really read fantasy.
Can anyone tell me how Sanderson's other books compare to Elantris? I thought it was decently entertaining, but mostly empty.

[Anonymous No.9975538]

>>9974987
Loli rape
man Rape
Femdom
Cock rings
Forcing men to fuck each other
Etc

[Anonymous No.9975542]

>>9975367

Those are definitely things you will learn to do (more or less) in a first draft, once you've had enough practice. There's always the dilemma between wanting to write as much volume as possible while you're inspired, vs getting bogged down in autistically editing and perfecting what you already have before the end is even written. This in turn can cause wild variations of prose quality within the same work or section of a work, if some parts were blurted out in a single sitting and others have been edited over several days.

Once it's all written AND prose has been polished, then comes the temptation to hack it apart and reassemble it in the "arrangement" phase.

[Anonymous No.9975688]

>>9975085
>No girls on the Internet hurr durr

[Anonymous No.9975728]

>>9975688
How new are you

[Anonymous No.9975729]

>>9975064
>someone finally replied properly
Thank you.
>Jarl
Not much on-screen, though?
>Hu
ditto
>third one
Alright.

Can't be much of it, though.

[Anonymous No.9975765]

Books about white haired faggots who aren't Elric or Geralt?

[Anonymous No.9975785]

>>9975538
wew laddie. Sounds like it could give PoN a run for its money. Going on the list.

[Anonymous No.9975790]

>>9975765
Book of the Short Sun

[Anonymous No.9975839]

So I just read The Death of Dr. Island, and there are a couple things I'm not sure about.
There are a few too many allusions to Christ for it to be coincidental, in addition to that poetry, but I'm not sure what Wolfe is going for with that, and Nick's wrist was used as a size comparison multiple times, which I found odd. Also, it was creepy as fuck when I realized it was actually a first-person narration from the other half of his brain.

[Anonymous No.9975940]

t. Womameme SFFG author

[Anonymous No.9975957]

>>9975940
Imagine posting things like this

[Anonymous No.9975998]

>>9968447
>Yes. But it really would have been better if Great Ordeal and Unholy Consult were the same book.

Editors were a mistake.

>Oy vey Bakker, we need ta split the book, ya dumb bastid goy.

[Anonymous No.9976002]

>>9975940
You know, the undead never really get a rise out of me, but I wanted to suck on those ghoul's titties so fucking badly.

[Anonymous No.9976026]

>>9975785
There isn't philosophizing though. So..

[Anonymous No.9976043]

>For six years, I have dwelt apart with the aged master, forgetting youth and its wonted desires in the study of arcanic things. Together, we have delved more deeply than all others before us in an interdicted lore; we have solved the keyless hieroglyphs that guard ante-human formulae; we have talked with the prehistoric dead; we have called up the dwellers in sealed crypts, in fearful abysses beyond space. Few are the sons of mankind who have cared to seek us out among the desolate, wind-worn crags; and many, but nameless, are the visitants who have come to us from further bourns of place and time.

>Stern and white as a tomb, older than the memory of the dead, and built by men or devils beyond the recording of myth, is the mansion in which we dwell. Far below, on black, naked reefs, the northern sea climbs and roars indomitably, or ebbs with a ceaseless murmur as of armies of baffled demons; and the house is filled evermore, like a hollow-sounding sepulcher, with the drear echo of its tumultuous voices; and the winds wail in dismal wrath around the high towers, but shake them not. On the seaward side, the mansion rises sheerly from the straight-falling cliff; but on the other sides there are narrow terraces, grown with dwarfish, crooked cedars that bow always beneath the gale. Giant marble monsters guard the landward portals; and huge marble women ward the strait porticoes above the sea; and mighty statues and mummies stand everywhere in the chambers and along the halls. But, saving these, and the spirits we have summoned, there is none to companion us; and liches and shadows have been the servitors of our daily needs.

[Anonymous No.9976052]

>>9976043
>liches and shadows have been the servitors of our daily needs
yeah baby

[Anonymous No.9976057]

>>9968423
This book was rather cheesy at times but also pretty funny, with a fairly likable protagonist and serviceable action scenes. The child characters were annoying and could've/should've been removed but I'll still give it a rec if you want something fun to read on a Sunday afternoon.

http://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/44920/the-redemption-of-althalus-by-david-and-leigh-eddings/9780345440785/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Redemption_of_Althalus

>It would be sheer folly to try to conceal the true nature of Althalus, for his flaws are the stuff of legend. He is, as all men know, a thief, a liar, an occasional murderer, an outrageous braggart, and a man devoid of even the slightest hint of honor.

>Yet of all the men in the world, it is Althalus, unrepentant rogue and scoundrel, who will become the champion of humanity in its desperate struggle against the forces of an ancient god determined to return the universe to nothingness. On his way to steal The Book from the House at the End of the World, Althalus is confronted by a cat--a cat with eyes like emeralds, the voice of a woman, and the powers of a goddess.

>She is Dweia, sister to The Gods and a greater thief even than Althalus. She must be: for in no time at all, she has stolen his heart. And more. She has stolen time itself. For when Althalus leaves the House at the End of the World, much wiser but not a day older than when he'd first entered it, thousands of years have gone by.

>But Dweia is not the only one able to manipulate time. Her evil brother shares the power, and while Dweia has been teaching Althalus the secrets of The Book, the ancient God has been using the dark magic of his own Book to rewrite history. Yet all is not lost. But only if Althalus, still a thief at heart, can bring together a ragtag group of men, women, and children with no reason to trust him or each other.

[Anonymous No.9976115]

>Sanderson produces more work then you
>The autist who wrote that 1M word superhero story on whim can do more than you
>Even faggots writing shitty slash fanfiction put more work out then you

What's even the point?

[Anonymous No.9976288]

>>9975765
David Bowie is the second best demiurge

[Anonymous No.9976290]

>>9975998
>it's anudda mengedda!

[Anonymous No.9976294]

>>9976115
to write better stuff than them

[Anonymous No.9976302]

Is 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?' cyberpunk?

Is 'Gravity's Rainbow' cyberpunk?

[Anonymous No.9976303]

>>9975940
have your jimmies been triggered?

[Anonymous No.9976426]

For some reason I have these phases every few months where reading will just make me fall asleep instantly

[Anonymous No.9976474]

>>9976302
>Is 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?' cyberpunk?
It is commonly considered such but I'd say it's not a definitive example of the genre.

[Anonymous No.9976491]

>>9976426
Ligotti is a pretty good substitute for NyQuil.

[Anonymous No.9976538]

>>9976491
It gets rid of Colds?

[Anonymous No.9976671]

>>9968784
The Last Book in the Universe? Sort of a loose connection with the post apocalypse and a domed city. I don't remember anything in it about winter.

[Anonymous No.9976767]

>>9975729
>replied properly
Why should I give you points in a book you never read? I'm not helping you pretend as if you read a book by giving you things only someone who went through the books would know.
Your original statement was a red flag that you never read the books.

[Anonymous No.9976769]

How does this sound for a a villain?

>villain wants to end this whole obnoxious "science" fad and bring back a golden age of magic
>refuses to take on any apprentices because "if everybody's magic then nobody is" In fact he barely understands magic himself and got his powers through a pact
>Demonstrates great acts of magic to build up hype but half of them are sleight of hand he didn't even make up himself
>Really, he just wants the applause

[Anonymous No.9976777]

>>9975521
Try the emperor's soul

[Anonymous No.9976784]

why is Gay, Rape, and Incest a measure of a book's quality? i think you guys are just projecting your weird fetishes on things.

[Anonymous No.9976798]

>>9976784
Eveey great book has some GRI in it. From the dawn of time.
>snowwhite was raped while she slept
>Oedipus fucked his mom
>butts were buggered in the bible

[Anonymous No.9976804]

>>9976784
I suggest you don't worry about those things and just enjoy yourself

[Anonymous No.9976879]

>been "writing" fantasy for years
>and by writing I mean coming up with ideas but being too afraid to commit to just one
How do I break the cycle, lads?

[Anonymous No.9976884]

>>9976879
You write.

Then realize with no matter how good your ideas are they're shit when you can't even think of a plot.

[Anonymous No.9976892]

>>9976884
I've got plots. I've got endings and ideas. I just dread committing myself to one of them when there are so many.

[Anonymous No.9976893]

>>9976879
This >>9976884

Not even memeing. You will always hate your writing. Always. There will never be a time when you don't cringe reading what you've wrote, no matter how good you get. Just do it.

[Anonymous No.9976924]

If the anon is here, have you gotten a chance to read Spice & Wolf?

[Anonymous No.9976941]

>>9976924
I will ravage your bp you girly man

[Anonymous No.9977086]

>>9971520
Throne of Bones was a bit of a slog but Sea of Skulls was absolutely amazing. If he keeps improving at the same rate it's a serious GoT contender

[Anonymous No.9977094]

>>9971520
>what is arguably the closest to the tradition of Tolkien
You lost me

[Anonymous No.9977167]

>>9977086
I didn't feel Throne of Bones was a slog (at least compared to stuff like Malazan); a bit long-winded at times sure, but I do think it's funny Sea of Skulls is only half the length of Throne of Bones.

[Anonymous No.9977206]

>>9977086
>>9977167
I'm genuinely interested in knowing more about Vox Day's writing. Anything further to add? Can the man actually write or is he just another meme personality riding the identity-politics wave?

[Anonymous No.9977215]

>>9977206
Vox Day sounds like a person with normal if not a little pleb tastes who keeps electing absolutely stupid chuck tingle garbage to the Hugoes.

[Anonymous No.9977217]

>>9977206
Best way I can describe Arts of Dark and Light is Tolkien siphoned through Martin with a healthy dose of non-preachy Catholicism, but it's MUCH better than Martin so far.

[Anonymous No.9977227]

>>9977215
>Hugoes
I don't really mind destroying meme-awards. They were too pleb to recognize Gene Wolfe so who cares what they think?

>>9977217
>Martin but better
Interesting. Do you mean like ASoIaF specifically?

[Anonymous No.9977232]

>>9977227
>Do you mean like ASoIaF specifically?
Yes. I have no idea if it's true or not, but it reads like Vox Day thought he could do ASoIaF better through a more Tolkien and Catholic filter.

[Anonymous No.9977236]

>>9977227
The whole point of meme awards is to facilitate the finding of good new books not the same meme author that fucking everyone has already read. If Vox thinks that the awards are going to bad books, why doesn't he find a book that he thinks is good?

No one wants to spend all day on Shitreads trying to find a good book and the fact that he keeps filling the awards up with poos on the street means more digging through shit for something good to torrent. He's a timewasting fucker who should drink bleach.

[Anonymous No.9977248]

>>9977232
Grrm and jrrt are both mediocre authors.

[Anonymous No.9977254]

>>9977236
He did get Marc Aramini nominated, I think that that was a solid effort. And if date of writing/publication is a requirement when you're looking for something new to read you're a pleb who should drink bleach. There's already more good literature in existence than any of us could read in our lifetimes, what's the point in making a deliberate decision to read new science-fiction/fantasy writers? Anybody with half a brain can find good books to read without looking at recent Hugo lists.

[Anonymous No.9977282]

>>9977236
>defending the Memegos
lol fuck off.

[Anonymous No.9977328]

>>9977254

The point of SF is to advance not just the genre, but humanity itself. Jules Verne provided the inspiration for the submarine industry. There are numerous other examples, I'm just too hungover to give them right now.

[Anonymous No.9977336]

>>9977328
Don't be silly.

[Anonymous No.9977346]

>>9976924
Yes, and I'm liking it a lot so far.

[Anonymous No.9977518]

>>9977328
>The point of SF is to advance not just the genre, but humanity itself.
We have a strict no zombies policy here Mr. Wollheim.

[Anonymous No.9977576]

>>9968616
I tried, man, I tried. Peck's good with ideas but the execution's so bad. Orson Scott Card has no heir.

[Anonymous No.9977820]

>>9976767
Like I said, I probably read them seven years ago. Stop being a dick.

[Anonymous No.9978221]

>>9976115
You need to compete against yourself and not other people.

[Anonymous No.9978340]

>>9978338
>>9978338
>>9978338
>>9978338
New Lread

[Anonymous No.9978956]

I just finished reading all of the black company novels. I enjoyed it for the most part. Are any of Glen Cook's other books/series worth reading?