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In your opinion, what is the worst or most boring issue or philosophical problem a work of fiction can take on?

>> No.994985

transcendentalism because lolplants

>> No.994984

Anything political.

I cannot give a fuck. It is impossible.

>> No.994989

>>994984
Read Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo.

>> No.994995

feminism, i don't care for it, because i don't think women have less rights.

I'm okay with books about equality.

>> No.995007

some kind of hurr why does i exist stuff. nihilism

>> No.995020

>>995007
never understood why people needed a reason.

>> No.995025

>>994995
They actually have more nowadays. Feminism is starting to fuck shit up.

>> No.995059

>>995025
I know what you mean, it doesn't even have to make sense anymore, feminists even fight for less rights now, thinking that porn is degrading (but only for the woman), and ofcourse they shouldn't have to carry heavy training dolls in military or firefighting educations, but how the fuck is all this shit gonna help them?


sorry for the terrible writing, I'm tired and i don't care for it.

>> No.995066

Authoritarianism. Shit was so 20th century.

>> No.995073

Any serious theological discussions. Being an atheist there is no difference reading something like the Summa Theologica and reading a serious discussion on how Ra can also be Amun-Ra.

>> No.995074

"But do we REALLY have free will, or are we all just PROGRAMMED?"

>> No.995087

>>995073
I know right. I only read Harris for that kind of thing.

>> No.995101

>>995074
Herp derp duurrrr
I'm genuinely more interested in favorite subjects.

>> No.995109

Completely not trolling, but...

Racism.

Seriously. Shit is played.

>> No.995122

>>995109
Agreed, it's pretty much the same with feminism,

>> No.995137
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995137

I don't as much hate a specific issue as I hate an author who gets sidetracked because he cares too much about it, completely forgetting the story and just the book a huge rant completely overshadowing the story you might spot somewhere in the background.

>> No.995162

World War II / PEACE RUUUULES / I found Jesus, look how awesome I am (a la latter Dostoyevsky). THey drilled that shit in school and now I hate it. I just get sick of "Germany hated/killed ____, _____, and ______" every fuckin' six months.

>> No.995168

>>995137
Looks like someone trudged through Atlas Shrugged

>> No.995184

>>995109

I can't stand books about Racial tolerance or whatever, especially if it's from the perspective of a child or innocent family. I read so much of that bullshit in school, it felt like I was being programmed.

>> No.995187

>>995162
I agree that I definitely get sick of LOOK HOW BAD NAZIS WERE! NEVER AGAIN! but I never get tired of anti-war messages. They always get me. Parts of Slaughterhouse-Five make me tear up like a bitch every time I read them: "The formation flew backwards over a German city that was in flames. The bombers opened their bomb bay doors, exerted a miraculous magnetism which shrunk the fires, gathered them into cylindrical steel containers, and lifted the containers into the bellies of the planes. The Germans below had miraculous devices of their own, which were long steel tubes. They used them to suck more fragments from the crewmen and planes. But there were still a few wounded Americans, though, and some of the bombers were in bad repair. Over France, though, German fighters came up again, made everything and everybody as good as new.
When the bombers got back to their base, the steel cylinders were taken from the racks and shipped back to the United States of America, where factories were operating night and day, dismantling the cylinders, separating the dangerous contents into minerals. Touchingly, it was mainly women who did this work. The minerals were then shipped to specialists in remote areas. It was their business to put them into the ground, to hide them cleverly, so they would never hurt anybody ever again."

>> No.995210

americans are dumber than i imagined.

>> No.995225

>>995210

>Implying everyone ITT is American.

>> No.995252

>>995225
no. some are easily identified as american though.

>> No.995253

the existence of qualia

>> No.995287

>Most boring philosophical issue?

Rational empiricism. Specifically, Leibniz. SNOOOOREEEE.

>Worst philosophical issue/problem

Descartes, Cartesian Dualism, the Cogito, anything that postulates that there is a true mind/body distinction between INVISIBLE SOUL MATTER LOLOLOL and PHYSICAL SLAVE BODY.

Knowing that this line of reasoning is STILL propagated by idiot stoner authors just pisses me off. Clinging to dualism is the sign of a bad upbringing and an even worse education.

>> No.995301

Criticism of capitalism. Not that it shouldn't be criticized (it should), but it really got old about 30 years ago. It doesn't need to be the main theme of every modern philosopher in Europe.

>> No.995309

>>995287
>rational empiricism
>philosophical issue
what specific issue are you talking about

>> No.995312

I have problems with books that are specifically about a central romance with no other real conflict/ a stupid conflict like vampires or poorly thought out time travel... not really a philosophical problem I suppose, but certainly an issue in books I really don't care about.

>> No.995323

>>995168
Or the Davinci Code.

Fuck did the main character in that book serve any purpose other than spouting the authors stupid conspiracy theory based religious beliefs.

>> No.995328

>>995323
>actually read the da vinci code.

wat

>> No.995332

>>995312
This is kind of getting off topic but I hate romance stories where somehow two people getting together and fucking fixes all of their deep seeded emotional problems.
"BAWWW MY DADDY BEAT ME"
"Hey wanna fuck?"
"EVERYTHINGS OK NOW!"

>> No.995334

Jewish identity. Which sucks because there are a lot of good writers who do this.

>> No.995369

>>995334

... Wow. I never even heard of that genre.

What is it like?

>> No.995771

>>995369
Played out.

>> No.995778

>>995369
you never heard of works about jewish identity?! seriously?

>> No.995812

Utilitarian moral issues and the Ubersmench.

I'm looking at you Crime and Punishment

>> No.995823

SOCIETY IS A HIVE OF DRONES AND WE MUST REBEL AGAINST ITS STIFLING CONFORMITY

LET'S SMOKE BEHIND THE SCHOOL

>> No.995855

"Is there a God," or, related, "Why are we here."

I'm a theist and I think those questions (at least considered as philosophical arguments) are useless to dealing with the world.