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/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 18:42:54 No.9939025 [Reply] [Original]

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>/SFFG/ Recommendations:
FANTASY
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SCIENCE FICTION
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Previous threads:
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>>9925939

Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 18:48:05 No.9939046

Has anyone read Gemma Files' Book of Tongues
>wild west priest is magic
>has sex with a legit psychopath gunslinger
>kill a bunch of people
>fuck around
>Ancient aztec goddess stirs shit up.
>shit goes down
>accidentally doom the whole goddamn world.
and that's only book one
I fucking love it. I haven't seen anyone mention it.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 18:59:39 No.9939088 Hello I'm kaladin wow it sure sucks to lift bridges those damn light borns I don't like them one bit. I miss my daaad How can brandon fill up so many pages with so little?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 19:13:58 No.9939131 >>9939046 I'm skeptical, Gemma sounds like a female name

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 19:15:23 No.9939135 >>9939131 Ebin

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 19:15:23 No.9939136 Sanderson ruined WoT.

Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 19:22:40 No.9939167

Ok sffg, space opera me. I like it hard, but fluid.

I've already read Mote in God's eye, Blindsight, Rendezvous with Rama, Ring World, Crossfire, Coyote and Old Man's War. I read but didn't like the sequels to crossfire and coyote (I think one copied the other because they are very similar in a lot of ways, but mostly they build a nice world and then just, "you know, forget this, let's focus on politics and how it can ruins nice things"), and The Lost Fleet (it's just a dump of orbital maneuvers and the dialog SUCKED, the plot could have been good, which is sad).

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 19:30:04 No.9939195 did anyone read stone sky yet? I feel pretty meh about it, fifth season and obelisk gate were both much better.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 19:30:43 No.9939197 >>9939131 your loss anon

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 19:32:56 No.9939208 >>9939025 easy on the carrots, bugs ;)

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 19:45:20 No.9939267 Vox Day's fantasy stuff is comfy as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 19:46:12 No.9939272 Can we add "To Kill a God" to the recommendations?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 19:46:31 No.9939276 >>9939208 Would u plz shut the fuck up

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 20:00:33 No.9939325 Is soft scifi the same as science fantasy?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 20:01:29 No.9939329 >>9939325 Not quite.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 20:16:20 No.9939381 >>9939325 There's no such thing as "soft" sci-fi.

Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 20:23:56 No.9939410
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>>9939325

Imagine putting Conan The Barbarian on Mars. That's science fantasy, ERB's John Carter. Or writing about a King on planet Saturn, or a necromancer on Venus. It's just about transposing some fantasy elements with exotic secondary planet setting.

Soft SF is more like pic related.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 20:47:50 No.9939491 >>9939039 Cease posting this. The actual plant one is funnier.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 21:55:38 No.9939669 Gimme some hot elves. Bonus points for dark elves.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 21:57:47 No.9939678 >>9939025 I need a good Space Opera

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 22:05:29 No.9939709 File: 54 KB, 310x500, 51Jk0rbYcQL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9939678 Here.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 22:34:07 No.9939779 File: 121 KB, 900x1200, 074b23b3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9939669 Tolkien?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 22:49:36 No.9939847 >>9938358 lots of blindsight on goodreads, who's the author?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 22:56:18 No.9939876 >>9939847 Peter Watts

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 23:01:52 No.9939896 >>9939167 A Fire Upon The Deep Count to a Trillion Night's Dawn ... although pretty soft Xeelee...start with Vacuum Diagrams

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 23:08:05 No.9939914 Is Garth Nix's 'Keys to the Kingdom' actually a good series? I remember liking it when i was a kid, but i never finished it

Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 23:14:31 No.9939934

>>9939914
It was pretty damn good when I reread it. Nix manages to combine an imaginative isekai scenario with an "I wanna be normal" character without making him a tedious asshole, and the supporting characters were quite fun. The ending was very weird though. I'd say it peaked at book 4/5, but the ending wasn't bad.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 25, 2017 23:56:56 No.9940089 Should I read an english translation of Battle Royale, or should I learn japanese?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 00:03:27 No.9940111 >>9940089 Use google translate.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 00:59:02 No.9940289
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For whatever reason, he is absolutely fixated on death, funereal imagery and scenes of decay, to a degree I haven't encountered hitherto; charnel houses and their worms, mausoleums, burial vaults, necropolises, mummification, torturers, necromancers, cannibals, cere-cloths, sarcophagi, lichens, fungus. CAS is your man if you like mordantly exotic morbidity, and he has an irresistibly surreal eye for monsters; somebody who can toss off a paragraph like this without it even being the climactic part of the story:

>In the wide intervals between the tables, the familiars of Namirrha and his other servants went to and fro incessantly, as if a fantasmagoria of ill dreams were embodied before the emperor. Kingly cadavers in robes of time-rotted brocade, with worms seething in their eye-pits, poured a blood-like wine into cups of the opalescent horn of unicorns. Lamias, trident-tailed, and four-breasted chimeras, came in with fuming platters lifted high by their brazen claws. Dog-headed devils, tongued with lolling flames, ran forward to offer themselves as ushers for the company. And before Zotulla and Obexah, there appeared a curious being with the full-fleshed lower limbs and hips of a great black woman and the clean-picked bones of some titanic ape from thereupward.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 01:00:22 No.9940293 >>9939267 no, it's really not

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 01:07:02 No.9940308 >>9940293 >tips

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 01:39:53 No.9940409

>>9940089
The movie is better than the translation I read. The plot is slightly different but in a way I actually found less interesting. The book is more 'government be keeping us down, adults don't get it and are evil, pretty much 1984+violence+youth-angst' while the movie is more 'holy fucking shit how did we let our country get this bad everything is so fucked we're bad people'. The book doesn't have Takeshi Kitano's character running the show, instead it's some boring evil bureaucrat.

>>9939267
Wait that guy actually writes?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 02:09:22 No.9940471 >>9940293 Have you even read his books? Everyone is so triggered by his political opinions that they trash his books without even picking them up. Goodreads is filled with one star reviews that review him as a person but not his prose.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 02:29:50 No.9940489 >>9940471 >Goodreads There's your problem.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 03:00:18 No.9940556 >>9940471 He's a shit writer too. I didn't even know about his permavirgin blog and his prose was still rancid garbage.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 03:07:12 No.9940576 >>9940556 lol nice try.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 03:17:11 No.9940597

>>9939325
It depends? Soft scifi tends to be more like Star Trek in that it deals with, say, the ethical, religious and moral issues behind creating sentient robots. Or linguists talking to aliens. Many times it's simply an issue for the author to write a commentary on real-world social issues. The hard SF issues of how the characters travel the stars or power their laser guns never really matters.

Science fantasy on the other hand, that tends to be fantasy/pulp stories and plots with a scifi veneer. The Cyborg C0-N4N swinging his laser sword at the dastardly psyonic masters of the jungle planet Venus or so on.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 03:33:34 No.9940629

>>9940556
Don't know about his fantasy, but I picked up that "Rebel Moon" book he did about ten years ago and it was total trash. Not a whiff of an original idea, the main hero is called "Dalton Starkiller" without a trace of irony, the rebels just invent a game-changing weapon halfway through for no reason, it didn't even have a proper ending. Probably tied with Ready Player One as the worst thing I've read.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 03:52:23 No.9940659 >>9940629 His fantasy is top notch.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 04:59:31 No.9940800
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Tried reading blindsight and wow it's just a bunch of nonsensical science terms strung together. Do people actually read this garbage or do they just pretend to because they think it makes them look smart?

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>>9940409
The movie is bizarrely tonally inconsistent though. It flipflops between being over-the-top dark humor and satire to taking itself 100% seriously.

>"MyFriend-chan has a crush on you!"
>"shut uuuup, no I don't!"
>both get shot
>mfw

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 06:07:34 No.9940965 >>9940659 Top kek fuck off back to your blog.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 06:10:58 No.9940974 >>9940965 Please leave, reddit.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 06:12:46 No.9940977 >>9940974 Stop shilling your shitty books you silly cocksucker.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 08:43:02 No.9941242 >>9940965 >Book discussion not allowed You leftists and your desire to silence everyone.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 08:46:24 No.9941249
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>>9940289
You really trying to shill and make this author the next Gene Wolfe meme huh? It's possible. Took 2+ years of focred shilling (along with absolute aram) for Wolfe to be a constant meme. You could try your hand.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 08:49:53 No.9941255 >>9941249 Gene Wolfe has always been very well regarded, you dumb slut.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 08:50:22 No.9941258 File: 1.10 MB, 3192x2124, Hey Pol.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9941242 Cool your jets buddy. Just discuss whatever book you want and leave the politics at the door. Don't want to draw the attention of the mods upous now, do you?

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 08:52:30 No.9941267
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>>9941255
>slut
I wish. Also i was talking about plebs wanting to read his books. He was well regarded by authors, not readers. This general introduced so many people to Wolfe.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 08:55:25 No.9941274 >>9941242 Shut up you schizoid loon.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 09:32:13 No.9941376 Are there any other fantasy or sci-fi books like Hyperion where characters tell stylistically different stories?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 09:49:52 No.9941426 >>9941376 Book of the New Sun

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 09:53:55 No.9941441 >>9939088 Don't pretend Jordan was ever better

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 10:00:44 No.9941462 File: 35 KB, 230x346, 51u7QTFqxDL._SY346_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9941274 >M-mommy, they're discussing forbidden authors again! It was good, admit it.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 10:03:22 No.9941469 >>9941462 Take your medicine

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 10:04:13 No.9941477 Who wants to talk about Sanderson?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 10:14:49 No.9941502 >>9941469 A response straight from the goon playbook, how dull. Well, for those of you who aren't SA stooges I recommend it.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 10:48:14 No.9941587 Any fantasy with cute girls?

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 10:57:36 No.9941598

I know a lot of people here dislike Moorcock because his prose isn't great and he gave an only half-coherent criticism of Tolkien, but I still think he's a good storyteller, and creates interesting worlds with fascinating characters.

Plus he helped popularize the "new wave" of sci-fi along with people like Zelazny.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 11:17:10 No.9941632 >>9941502 The fantasy and SF threads on SA are fucking weird places man

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 11:18:31 No.9941637 File: 66 KB, 853x543, Sanderson Spurdo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9941477 I do. WHEN IS THE NEXT BOOK????

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 11:26:34 No.9941663 >>9941502 You really do suffer from persecution mania anon, don't you?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 11:46:52 No.9941719 >>9941632 What is SA anyway?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 11:47:43 No.9941721 >>9941719 somethingawful

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 11:49:25 No.9941726 >>9941721 Ah, right. From the "leftists are trying to censor muh shit books" thing I thought he might have meant Socialist Alternative.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 11:51:58 No.9941730 Is there such a thing as Gothic SF?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 11:56:24 No.9941746 >>9941730 40k duh

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 11:58:00 No.9941753 >>9941730 BotNS What doesn't it do?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 11:59:48 No.9941756 Since half life 3 is never going to happen. What's the closest thing to that story in a book form?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 12:00:21 No.9941758 >read solaris >technobabble out the ass >don't understand shit

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 12:02:04 No.9941764 >>9941753 >What doesn't it do? Gay rape. Traps and boipucci

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 12:31:23 No.9941847 >>9941376 Dune, in the sense that you get to various characters' thoughts.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 12:42:41 No.9941872 About to read Sabriel, what am I in for lads?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 12:47:05 No.9941886 >>9941663 >You're delusional >Bogeyman something something >Nobody is out to get you >Etc Yeah, I know the routine. At some point you will misstype words and act as if that is brilliant and witty. I've seen it all before too many times, lad.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 12:48:26 No.9941889

>>9941847
>Dune
Read a couple of them many years ago. Should give them a try again soon.
>in the sense that you get to various characters' thoughts.
Not what I asked for, but something I think is really important anyway. Vernor Vinge did this well in his "zones of thought" series.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 12:49:00 No.9941891

>>9940800
Everyone who has read Watts knows he sometimes has trouble explaining things clearly, but calling those terms nonsensical is just false. If you don't want to imagine what the ship looks like you could just skim through the part.
People read Watts for his take on consciousness, free will and the unique aliens.

Why do so many people think other people read to pretend x?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 12:50:14 No.9941896 >>9941847 I quite liked that, it's something you don't see much and it adds a lot of depth.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 13:03:53 No.9941921 File: 49 KB, 310x514, Sabriel_Book_Cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9941872 Something pretty good and unique. The cover art is also excellent, at least it used to be.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 13:14:13 No.9941955 >>9941921 Oh yeah, I definitely avoided the dumb YA Hunger Games covers they put out for that series.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 13:21:39 No.9941974

>>9941955
It's like the concept of a cover that depicts the main character, important elements of the setting, and clues and foreshadowing about the plot, while establishing an aesthetic and mood is lost to time. Even among the old style covers, that one's great, it just fits so perfectly.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 13:29:35 No.9942000 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAJ73QerzzE What are some fantasy books with badass elves like that instead of gay elves?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 14:15:07 No.9942123 >>9939272 Look who's back

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 14:16:56 No.9942127 >>9941872 The only good series about necromancy you will most likely ever read

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 14:24:49 No.9942148 >>9942000 Drizzt.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 14:35:55 No.9942177 who here has written something of his own? care to share an excerpt?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 14:36:20 No.9942180 >>9942127 Skip everything that isn't the original trilogy though.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 14:50:28 No.9942202 File: 103 KB, 600x465, 46813120-zothique1-600x465.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9942127 cough

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 15:14:53 No.9942275 >>9939410 Gotta admit, I have precisely zero interest in engineering speculation my dude

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 15:23:05 No.9942306 Any love for Poul Anderson here? I'm reading The Broken Sword right now and loving it. I'm going to get to Three Hearts and Three Lions right after it.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 15:41:57 No.9942377 >>9940936 It's definitely a weird movie >She didn't have her period >I checked ok wat. But it actually is one of my favourite Movies. (Maybe I have the Yellow fever, because I also love Oldboy and a book called "Welcome to the NHK)

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 15:52:24 No.9942411 File: 53 KB, 334x499, 51wJBF+LbKL._SX332_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just finished this. I enjoyed it, but there was no reason for them to be goblins and elves. Felt like fantasy in name alone.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 15:53:04 No.9942413 File: 1.15 MB, 1000x720, Author Burglar.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9942177 Fuck off thief.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 15:56:52 No.9942428 >>9940659 Have never heard of this guy, what book specifically do you recommend? I don't want to read anything with a protag named Dalton Starkiller, that's Jemison-tier

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 16:03:13 No.9942445 >>9942413 yeah because people also stole all shit posted in critique threads was stolen

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 16:32:37 No.9942562 >>9942411 Some stories are like this, where they went in with Microsofts find and replace tool and changed the country name to "realm", "black man" to "Orc" and "jewish" to "goblin"

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 16:43:29 No.9942599 >>9942562 >and "jewish" to "goblin" Alex Jones does this.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 17:09:14 No.9942676

Who else should I read if I like Zelazny and Moorcock? In particular, I like the law/chaos stuff, the kind of conflicted hero who loves excitement but kind of also wants to settle down and live a normal life, and a willingness to have lots of exciting passages and weird shit, and also slow down and let us see the characters just being people sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 17:16:47 No.9942703 >>9942599 I mean not that it's literature but the Star Wars prequels are basically just lazy stereotypes put on aliums. I mean.. the fucking "jew" thing in that has a gigantic nose.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 17:21:45 No.9942714 >>9942562 >love the money hate the work I'm a black jew Can someone convert to Judaism? Are there black jews?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 17:22:37 No.9942717 >>9939167 the dragon never sleeps

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 17:22:52 No.9942719

>>9942428
Just start reading Summa Elvetica and if you like the first story or two then keep reading. The version I have has all the prequel stories to the main Arts of Dark and Light novels. If you like it then finish it and move on to the main novels. Keep in mind I really do mean COMFY when describing his fantasy. He takes a much more thoughtful, fleshed out and catholic approach. It's like a Gene Wolfe for people who aren't quite ready for Gene Wolfe. I dig it so far. Very classical and refreshing compared to all the grimderp and pretentious fantasy that's all the rage.

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>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 17:37:27 No.9942767 >>9942714 You can, but it's not common, unlike most faiths Jews actually care if you're sincere in your beliefs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_to_Judaism

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 17:43:00 No.9942788 >>9942714 >black jews It's like someone mixed the genes of a cockroach with a rat in his pursuit of the ultimate evil in a science fiction story.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 17:46:58 No.9942808 >>9942714 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Jews_in_Israel

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 17:54:45 No.9942833 >>9941637 November

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 18:08:49 No.9942898

hey /sffg/ im writing a ya novel and im coming across some problems

>have a character who's supposed to swear a lot but because of the genre I have to do it without him finishing a word worse than crap
>same character is veering dangerously close to being the heroine's love interest but I want to avoid ya romance
>a scene im working on right now involves him attending to her injuries, but its kind of awkward to write about since a good 70% are on her legs and torso which basically amounts to a lot of uncomfortable nudity between characters who are too old for it not to have sexual undertones and too young for it to be tasteful. Even making light of it with a gag where he nearly has a panic attack over bare ankles (its historical fantasy) cant keep things lighthearted in the next scene where she wakes up two days later in a different set of clothes.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 18:10:03 No.9942904 >>9942898 Have the gal feel awkward about it but the guy is matter-of-fact and professional.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 18:10:16 No.9942906 File: 10 KB, 480x360, You just know.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9942833 Can't come soon enough.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 18:11:55 No.9942911 >>9942898 >writing a ya novel that's your biggest problem

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 18:14:40 No.9942918 >>9942904 I was thinking of doing something like that where when she wakes up she's embarrassed but he stopped caring around the second time she wet herself in her sleep and now sees her an oversized toddler

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 18:17:33 No.9942924

>>9942898
>Even making light of it with a gag where he nearly has a panic attack over bare ankles
Sounds like night angel trilogy when the prince gets turned on by his tsundere wife's ankles, but not foreign girl's bare left breast. (At least I think it was night angel. Read so many books...)

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 18:22:12 No.9942934 >>9942918 Research some EMT stories. That should serve well as inspiration. >[...]when she wakes up she's embarrassed but [...] Depending on the injury, shock and pain might cause her to not care much at all except for "oh my god THE PAIN".

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 18:23:31 No.9942937 >>9942918 Might work, needs more inevitable tumblr-fodder tsundere ayy

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 18:32:48 No.9942956

>>9942934
Actually I have kind of glossed over the physical pain, I cared more about what would develop the characters than what would be realistic. The girl is kind of an autist so I guesd I could brush off the insensitivity to pain but you raise a good point

>>9942937
If anything HE's the tsundere, not her

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 18:36:25 No.9942965 >>9942956 Exactly, pepper in exactly one off-handed tsundere wording with maybe one ambiguous gesture in a later date so they can pour over it Fan that fandom man

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 18:40:30 No.9942982
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>>9942306
I really like some of his short stories. Highly recommend Call Me Joe. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6146179-the-collected-short-works-of-poul-anderson-volume-1

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 18:44:44 No.9942994

>>9942956
>Actually I have kind of glossed over the physical pain
That should be your main focus if realism and avoidance of lewdness or awkwardness is what you want. I mean, if you were in a car crash and got fucked up royally, would you care if you regained a bit of consciousness in the ambulance and some guy or gal was pressing his fingers hard into your groin to stop you from bleeding out through your femoral artery?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 18:59:19 No.9943022 File: 56 KB, 537x540, Cosmere.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So speaking of sci-fi, what do y'all think about that Half-Life: Episode 3 posting?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 19:21:50 No.9943089 >ctrl + f malazan >0 results guys wtf

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 19:28:19 No.9943108 >>9943089 It's shit.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 19:41:31 No.9943141

>>9943022
I'd say it's consistent with what Ladlaw wrote for the other HL games, the same sort of "good job, your efforts were futile, but the resistance continues elsewhere." Nothing really surprising there.

Too bad Valve is more interested in just selling games and DOTA hats these days.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 19:41:50 No.9943144
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Post your favorite "fantasy" music, lads
These take me away:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvW-QTiZLQ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ9NOV3KNpY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9nZbZfWQoI

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 19:46:57 No.9943155
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>>9943141
Yeah I prefer that too instead of
>this super-advanced civilization was destroyed thanks to tiny humans hitting the weak point for massive damage

Avarice consumes all, especially that fat sack of selfish shit Gabe.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 19:47:22 No.9943156 >>9943144 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPQgfaB3S1c

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 19:48:26 No.9943159 >>9939669 >tfw no super cute gooey fantasy romance about twink elves falling in love and talking about their feelings a lot while on forest patrol

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 19:56:05 No.9943178 File: 75 KB, 1024x971, 1500072177014.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9941886 Stay on the offensive, Anon. Leftists will never give up and neither should you.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 20:03:19 No.9943193
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>>9942306
The High Crusade is probably my favorite of his science fiction novels, it's a fun read with a good sense of humor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_High_Crusade

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 20:29:02 No.9943255 >>9943193 >yfw marxist shits would say it sucks because it's not believable

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 20:37:10 No.9943283
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>>9943178
What I dislike most about leftists is their insincerity, they can never argue in good faith. That is if they're willing to pretend to discuss anything with you in the first place, they're quite adverse to debate and questioning.
>>9943193
This looks interesting.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 21:34:34 No.9943417

>>9943255
What does Marxism have to do with needing stories to be believable? I'm not a Marxist, but you realize China Mieville is, right? The guy who writes stories about cities on trains and a magical researcher whose girlfriend has a beetle for a head?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 22:01:27 No.9943504 >>9942898 >have a character who's supposed to swear a lot but because of the genre I have to do it without him finishing a word worse than crap America lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 22:07:35 No.9943520 >>9943144 >>9943156 >>>/mu/

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 22:50:14 No.9943623 Any good fantasy with a feel similar to the new Twin Peaks? Preferably not set in modern times; urban fantasy annoys me.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 22:51:21 No.9943631 >>9943283 >What I dislike most about leftists is their insincerity, they can never argue in good faith. Maybe you don't deserve any.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 22:54:35 No.9943645 SO I just finished all of the fitz and the fool. Damn Im wasted. I need something to pull me out of this sadness episode.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 23:04:47 No.9943668 Man, the flowcharts and shit in the OP need updating. It recs YA without identifying it as such. This isn't /r/fantasy where people sniff their own farts while discussing the newest book written for middle schoolers.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 23:10:09 No.9943674 >>9943668 The flowcharts are from reddit and NPR, not here. Anons just keep posting them from inertia or whatever.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 23:17:12 No.9943685
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>>9943631
It's not about what anyone deserves but a lack of ability to engage. This is why leftists are so quick to shut down conversations they don't want to have, hear or even have others hear, they've become reliant on not having to face up to their bullshit. As can be seen in your post. This intellectual impotence of the left is not healthy for anyone in the long run.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 23:21:34 No.9943693

>>9943417
It's because they're snowflakes who can't handle different opinions.

>>9943668
>This isn't /r/fantasy where people sniff their own farts while discussing the newest book written for middle schoolers.

Yeah here we sniff our own farts while discussing the newest pulp trash instead while a speaker repeats the words "GENE WOLFE" on a loop in the background so we feel smart.

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 23:27:57 No.9943705

>>9943685
Yes, unlike your detailed and exhaustive reply to the criticism laid out here:
>>9940629
The reason why you didn't reply to him is because you aren't really interested in having a discussion with someone who has a different opinion, as you're pretending. You're probably not really interested in Vox Day either. All you're looking for is a reply that will give you a pretext to start shitting on anything left of center.
You don't get good faith because you don't give any.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 23:32:29 No.9943713 Who's your favourite leftist sffg author? For me, its Iain M Banks

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 23:38:55 No.9943723
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>>9943685
>>9943631
>leftists are so quick to shut down conversations they don't want to have, hear or even have others hear
Guess I'm a "leftist" then. Because this shit sure don't belong in sffg

Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 23:53:31 No.9943745
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>>9943705
>You're probably not really interested in Vox Day either.
You're wrong, I like his Arts of Dark and Light series.
>unlike your detailed and exhaustive reply to the criticism laid out here
Well, I've never read Rebel Moon.
>All you're looking for is a reply that will give you a pretext to start shitting on anything left of center.
I hardly need a pretext to shit on the left and there are appropriate boards and forums to do so. The only reason you see it as a provocation is because you've spent some of your two minutes hate sessions on the author. Will Lovecraft too become a person who must not be mentioned in due time?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 26, 2017 23:58:04 No.9943756 >>9943745 Why do all righties into sff speak so pompously? Wright and Day also do this. Normal righties at least speak like real human beans.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 00:09:36 No.9943777 >>9942898

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 00:37:35 No.9943810 File: 48 KB, 328x500, cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just finished reading the Gormenghast books, they were pretty interesting. I didn't like the last book as much though.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 00:42:20 No.9943815 >>9943777 What was the point of wasting those trips

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 01:20:10 No.9943877 >>9941462 Nice shilling your jew book Vox Day.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 01:52:08 No.9943938

>>9941477
>>9941637
Speaking of Sanderson, I game a hardcover copy of The Way of Kings and my page 352 goes over to page 321. Then from 321 it is literally 30 extra pages all the way back to 352 before it continues on. Is this shit a known issue? Cause when it loops back to 352 it has a massive hole in the first page of this chapter

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 01:52:23 No.9943939 >>9943877 Oh yeah? How about we duke it out irl, Jemisin? You and me, man to savage. You may be built like an obese gorilla but I could still take you out. Let's settle this once and for all.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 01:58:35 No.9943958

>>9939709

>children
>talking dogs
>cute wheelchair bound molluscs

He said space opera not space sitcom. The best feature about vinge is he's apparently a PHD in comp sci so he at least bothers to portray asynchronous network protocols and such. He tries.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 01:58:57 No.9943960 Is The Inheritance Trilogy worth reading? What about R. A. Salvatore? I liked the lore in Kingdoms of Amalur >tfw never ever Amalur 2

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 02:08:09 No.9943978 >>9943938 What edition/printing? I've got a first edition and I've never read it (it was a gift back when it came out) but I don't see any page replication for 352 and 321.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 02:09:11 No.9943980 File: 47 KB, 345x500, 51N6pn72JuL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hmmmmm........ I hope it airs out ok so's I can read it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 02:13:38 No.9943991 >>9943960 >yfw Rhode Island's economy was nearly destroyed by a former baseball player's attempt to make a World of Warcraft clone

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>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 02:23:42 No.9944014 >>9943992 Stop oppressing books with your numeronormative expectations, the pages can come in any order they want and as many times they want, bigot. With Tor you always get vibrant and diverse books.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 02:34:24 No.9944042

>>9943992
You've got a 8th edition, so yeah probably a production error that crept in along the line. If you bought it recently return it for a replacement, or maybe try either contacting Tor for a replacement. I believe some major book chains will also replace misprints, since they destroy the book and the publisher reimburses them.

It probably doesn't add any specific value to it though, I wouldn't go to the trouble of trying to get it signed or anything.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 02:40:16 No.9944054 >>9943756 Can't speak for Day because I've never read him but Wright is a giant Chesterton fan and his whole life seems to be an ongoing attempt at becoming him. Have you seen how he dresses, his writing is nothing next to that.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 02:42:09 No.9944058

>>9944042
Note though that if it's a misprinted first edition there's still the value of a first edition, just somewhat less due to the flaw. Misprints increasing the value of a book is somewhat rare, like say it's a first edition of a print run where there are few collector-grade copies on the market, which makes it a rarity among rarities. Or it was a minor error that was only in the very first few hundred/thousand books before being corrected.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 03:34:50 No.9944130 Any good urban fantasy? Doesn't even need to be that good just something that isn't for edge lords or teenage girls?

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 03:39:48 No.9944140
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Oi oj oy
Six books, six things, and so I will read.
But where to begin?

>There's also Sanderson and Erikson
>Or even this "Blood Song" by Anthony Ryan
>Or that Mark Lawrence guy

Point is I've not read anything by anyone listed in this post.
>I've played Witcher games, so should I start with The Last Wish? (Or, Sword of Destiny, perhaps?)

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 03:45:24 No.9944153 File: 302 KB, 1200x628, The-Wolf-of-the-North_ad[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9944140 Or perhaps. THIS Is what I should read!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 03:52:44 No.9944170 >>9944140 Go with Sabriel, it's really good. But GOD that new cover is fucking vile.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 04:04:56 No.9944194 >>9944170 Sabriel seems to be "YA" That gives it a low starting interest.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 04:12:50 No.9944209 >>9944130 Neverwhere.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 04:14:14 No.9944212 >>9944194 Garth Nix is solid. YA effectively means nothing when hings like "Prince of Thorns" are published as "mature novels".

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 04:14:49 No.9944213 >>9943685 >FUCKING LEFTIES REEEE >why won't lefty shits talk to me in a civilized manner You are retarded.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 04:21:10 No.9944216
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>>9944140
>reading the Inheritance trilogy
Stick to the Broken Earth and Dreamblood. Inheritance was pretty bad in general and not just the futa. The sun god was an unlikeable dickhead and the dark god was the typical 2edgy4me long haired shounen antagonist and by the time it finally found its feet, all the interesting plot was already over.

Always thought that Keys > Abhorsen but it's an unpopular opinion. Clariel and Goldenhand were also shite compared to the original trilogy.

Ryan's Blood Song felt terribly derivative with a training arc of doom and according to other readers he shits the bed even harder later in the series.

Please report back on the other novels.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 04:22:28 No.9944220 File: 182 KB, 500x500, 1474997874889.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9943939 Go to bed Stevian.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 04:25:02 No.9944223 >>9944212 I just have a prejudice against teenage protagonists.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 04:32:32 No.9944229 >>9944140 Age of Myth, definitely.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 04:34:10 No.9944232 >>9944220 Nice book!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 04:34:30 No.9944233 >>9944232 DELET THIS IMMEDIATELY

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 04:35:06 No.9944234 File: 87 KB, 450x617, wormouroboros[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9944216 What about starting from the beginning? (Apart from: "With the Greeks") >>9944229 It and Malice are the ones that draw me the most.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 04:57:54 No.9944264 >>9943417 >What does Marxism have to do with needing stories to be believable? Because marxists saying sci-fi should be believable is what almost killed the genre.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 04:58:56 No.9944267 >>9943693 Nice projection, princess.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 05:04:22 No.9944277 >>9944264 You are the kind of fellow that blames Marxists when he notices the toilet paper he uses is a bit rougher than before. And you probably don't even know what a Marxist is.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 05:20:29 No.9944304 >>9944277 t. marxist

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 06:37:46 No.9944430 File: 38 KB, 326x500, Uk_the_last_wish_new.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What am I in for, /sffg/? I don't read much fantasy, but someone told me these books were worth it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 07:33:57 No.9944536 >>9941598 >Plus he helped popularize the "new wave" of sci-fi along with people like Zelazny. Zelazny was infinitely better than Moorcock and it's a crime he's not better known.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 07:36:21 No.9944539 >>9942000 The Witcher. Isengrim takes awhile to show up but he's a badass.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 07:37:31 No.9944542 >>9942177 I've only written deviant porn and you can't have it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 07:41:55 No.9944546 >>9942898 People bedridden for injuries are very unsexy actually. Not a problem.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 07:44:39 No.9944554 >>9943713 >Who's your favourite leftist sffg author? Almost all sffg authors are leftists so this is a dumb question.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 07:46:47 No.9944560

>>9944140
>>I've played Witcher games, so should I start with The Last Wish? (Or, Sword of Destiny, perhaps?)
You start with Last Wish. Why would you not read them in order? The only excuse is the english publisher fucked it up but if you know the original order, read them in sequence. Last Wish>Sword of Destiny>Blood of Elves>Time of Contempt>Baptism of Fire>Tower of the Swallow>Lady of the Lake

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 07:51:59 No.9944569

>>9944430
>What am I in for, /sffg/? I don't read much fantasy, but someone told me these books were worth it.
Weird "anachronisms" that will likely disorient you (fantasy world that nonetheless has pretty good knowledge of the biological sciences, plus fairly modern political institutions despite being iron aged); a gimmick that was innovative in soviet sattelite Poland but kind of stale today (fairy tales but now realistic and with a dark twist), and a really uneven translation.

I really liked the series nonetheless. It's kind of hard to compare it to anything. A lot of it is tied up in the Polish experience of the 20th century despite the fantasy setting. I'm not sure it's the fantasy book for people that don't like fantasy but your friend presumably knows your tastes better than I.

Note that much of the Last Wish was originally independently published short stories that were only combined with a thin overarching plot years after being written. As such there's some plot elements that get heavily retconned with the following book if you continue to Sword of Destiny.

Also Geralt is kind of a whiny autist which is probably not the impression the games would give you.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 08:00:00 No.9944584
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>>9944140
You want a readfag's opinion?
Don't touch age of myth (read the Riyria books in publication order, if you like those THEN read the age of myth books)
I never read malice (looked too romancey to me)
Blood song was great, lord tower was a drop in quality, and Queen of fire shit the bed with uncontrollable diarrhea.
Prince of thorns was okay-ish. It had it's shitty parts though (been years since I read it, can't remember what was so bad... probably repressed)
I recommend Sanderson, Erickson, and The Witcher books in publication order(it had this old fae mythos going, and the prose was enjoyable).
I also enjoyed the inheritance trilogy (some people here say it's too anime), you should read her Broken Earth trilogy too (fuck dreamblood).
Read the Abhorsen trilogy and pretend the other books don't exist.

If you want, peep my chart and see if something tickles your fancy. Green by Jay Lake was enjoyable for me, No one ever in sffg's read it but me, so you can make that a club of two(also the author is dead, so according to lit this makes the work 100x better).

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 09:18:05 No.9944749 File: 508 KB, 1024x576, anime sanders.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who's your favorite anime writer? Mine is Sanders.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 09:29:50 No.9944772 >>9944130 John C. Wright's new Arthurian Legend thing might be what you're after.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 09:53:51 No.9944806 File: 22 KB, 371x595, 655_595lem-solaris-book-cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Erickson got the idea for the Crippled God from the ending of Solaris Really makes you think. I wonder what other little pieces inspired authors.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 10:15:14 No.9944851 >>9943089 Do we really have to have the exact same conversations about the exact same books every single thread?

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 10:33:09 No.9944897

I know that both GRRM and Moorcock get shit on around here, for overlapping but different reasons, but I also know they have their fans, and people who recognize the flaws of their work and like them nonetheless.

So, with that in mind, I think Azor Ahai is meant to be an aspect of Moorcock's Eternal Champion.

>was known as Eldric Stormchaser and Hyrkoon the Hero, and wield a sword called Lightbringer
>Elric's sword is called Stormbringer, and his cousin's name is Yrkoon, literally one letter from Hyrkoon
Also
>in Game of Thrones s03e02 when Joffrey asks the crowd what he should call his sword, someone yells "Stormbringer!"
Also
>Elric was the last emperor of a declining empire that used dragons in battle, where brothers and sisters marrying to continue the royal line wasn't unheard of
>the Eternal Champion is born again and again, to bring balance between Law and Chaos by fighting for one side or the other

What does this mean for the end of the series?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 10:37:34 No.9944916 >>9944897 I think the Elric references, while real, are pretty much just an homage. ASOIAF just doesn't share the cosmology/theology of the Eternal Champion universe.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 10:37:54 No.9944919

>>9944234
>>9944234
>It and Malice are the ones that draw me the most.

The Faithful and the Fallen books are pretty basic bitch if you've read a few fantasy books.

Everything that happens is obvious, every cliche in the book and one of the most retarded romances I have read. And the pacing is horrendous.

The protagonist is tortured, comes face to face with the enemy of man, comes to the realization he is the chosen one and man's fate depends upon him, he also becomes the leader of the best fighters in the world and the only thing he can think about is the love interest kissing him

I had to put the book down at this stage it was so retarded. The other relationships aren't much better.

I finished it anyway since I never really drop a series once I have started but it wasn't worth it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 10:39:09 No.9944925 Do >we still hate Pratchett and Adams?

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 10:42:58 No.9944935

>>9944897
>>9944916
Another homage I don't think many people have picked up on. GRRM named his spymaster character 'The Spider'. Gene Wolfe's spymaster in Book of the Long Sun is named 'Spider'. Could be a coincidence but considering Wolfe and GRRM are acquainted and GRRM seems to respect his work quite strongly it seems unlikely.

>>9944925
They don't really even get mentioned. I found Hitchhiker's Guide pretty unimpressive when I was 15 though.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 10:55:59 No.9944962 >>9944935 I'm breezing through Discworld tebehe. Immensely readable, funny and actually excellent fantasy writing. Hitchhiker's kinda lost steam by the 5th book.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 11:04:41 No.9944980 >>9944851 He is like the other retard who pretends to have "just finished Name of the Wind", and slightly praises it, in hopes that some person that got burnt by the novels would bite his bait. Just so he can discuss the only book he ever read.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 11:06:29 No.9944985 Any good detective-style fantasy that's not "urban" fantasy?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 11:07:34 No.9944987 >>9944897 >in Game of Thrones s03e02 >end of the series You tv fags really need to stay in your containment board. There are no cunnies in here. Shoo.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 11:12:27 No.9944994 >>9944925 Does Adam's first name start with Terry? Then yes, if not, no. We only dislike authors with the name Terry, because it's a proven fact that they are horrible writers.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 11:15:18 No.9944999 >>9944985 Cabal the necromancer Shades of Grey Library at mount char something more than night

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 11:24:30 No.9945017 What's the best fantasy series if all I want is loads of gore and rape?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 11:26:52 No.9945020 >>9945017 Black Company Conan Asoiaf(I think)

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 11:26:57 No.9945021 >>9944584 >Modern Fantasy Recs V2.jpg >includes scifi recs >doesn't include Blindsight you had one job whoever made that chart, one fucking job

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 11:34:38 No.9945030 I don't see anyone discussing my own fantasy series.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 11:42:06 No.9945049 >Tfw at least a year until the next Sufficiently Advanced Magic book

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 11:45:47 No.9945056 >>9945017 Prince of Nothing. Child rape on page 3.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 11:45:51 No.9945057 >>9944584 >Womameme authors in your shitty recs Eat shit your recs suck and so does your opinion

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 11:47:07 No.9945058 >>9945030 Any GRI in it?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 11:48:58 No.9945066 >>9939088 REEEEEEEEE IT'S CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT WE'RE GETTING TO KNOW HIS THOUGHTS IN DEPTH FUCK YOU

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 11:50:29 No.9945073 >>9939136 >being wrong

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 11:52:33 No.9945078 >>9944987 I mentioned the show because it supports what I was saying. It's a book series as well as shows. I don't know if you realize that.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 11:54:33 No.9945083 >>9945057 Women can write too, anon

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:01:30 No.9945097 >>9945083 lol

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:08:39 No.9945116 >>9945021 >blindmeme shill You fags pushed it too far. I'm never reading that book. I probably would have in time, but your incessant shilling has turned me away. I will from now on, anti-shill those books.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:11:43 No.9945121 >>9945116 >not wanting to read the best scifi in recent history your loss bud

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:11:51 No.9945122 >>9945049 >he will then come and say "I was only pretending" when he comes here to rage about nonexistent persons recommending him the books in sffg, only to remember that recommended it himself, and no one speaks of it but him It's like clockwork

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:12:35 No.9945124 I've finished reading the first Dune and I found it to be pretty great. What about the other Dune books? I plan to read Dune Messiah and Children of Dune in any case.

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Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:17:03 No.9945140

>>9945078
>I don't know if you realize that.
I don't know if you realize that the show has no bearing on the books except who sits on the throne in the end. Because GURM told them that. Other than that, the series is it's own creature.

I will say this again
>no abatap, cunnies, eternals, or Pickles here
>shooo

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:19:07 No.9945145 >>9945121 >best scifi in recent history You mean roadside picnic ? Or Stranger in a strange land?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:19:25 No.9945149 >>9945122 What? I liked the first book, I want more

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:21:48 No.9945157 >>9944897 >What does this mean for the end of the series? Nothing, the series will never be finished.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:22:50 No.9945160 >>9944897 >>9944916 How has Moorcock not tried to sue GRRM yet over this like he did with Sapkowski?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:24:38 No.9945169 File: 307 KB, 1440x792, kings_by_spiralhorizon-d7horw1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9945017 Second Apocalypse. Child rape in the prologue, first fourth of the latest book is filled with necrophilia and cannibalism.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:27:33 No.9945173 >>9945020 >Asoiaf(I think) It's way less gorey and rapey than the show. It's a lightweight in GRI terms.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:28:06 No.9945176 Is there ANY good urban fantasy? I have searched for years upon years and found none. I'm interested in werewolves pls no bully but it's ALL garbage. Send help.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:28:46 No.9945178 >>9945140 >Because GURM told them that. What makes you think they care?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:30:11 No.9945182 File: 62 KB, 404x311, Gurm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9945140 >>no abatap, cunnies, eternals, or Pickles here there are, however, big guys

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:30:57 No.9945185 >>9945176 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wolfen

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:31:41 No.9945188
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help me nerds of /lit/
a while ago some guy on /tg/ recommended a sci-fi novel that I forgot the name of.
It was about some kind of alien that could only live on the equator of a planet and look straight forward (and backward?) kinda like 2D. Because I think big gravity or black holes or something sucked and warped everything on both sides so you could only walk back and forth. So his life was essentially 2D. He had a smaller creature living in his head he could talk to, I think.
It was a very "mind-fucky" book that with a lot of strange stuff involving perspective and stuff.

Anyone know what Im talking about?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:31:42 No.9945189 >>9945185 Pretty good film too.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:34:38 No.9945199 >>9945189 Damn, never knew they made a movie out of it. I read the book translated to my native language ~15 years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:38:10 No.9945214 >>9945188 sounds to me like blindsight

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:41:33 No.9945224 >>9945214 I think he died if he looked to the side, since he would be totally warped. He could only walk in a ring around the planet. It was only through the perspective of the alien, no humans.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:43:37 No.9945230 >>9945224 >>9945224 Yes, that's Boku no Blindsight, by Peter Watts.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:45:39 No.9945235 File: 1022 KB, 1144x2560, 1472675693236.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9945124 It's great up until God Emperor of Dune, after that it declines and it ends with a cliffhanger. Pic related is fairly accurate.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:47:24 No.9945237 >>9945230 >>9945214 When I read the plot of that book in wikipedia it doesnt really sound like that at all?Are you sure?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:50:26 No.9945250 Is Dalinar genuinely autistic?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:53:21 No.9945256 >>9945124 This post >>9945235 is accurate. I reading Children is pointless if you don't plan on reading God Emperor. Post-God Emperor books are pretty meh and you don't get any real resolution.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:54:10 No.9945260 >>9945250 More like Renarin

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:55:12 No.9945263 >>9945235 Messiah > Dune > Children > God Emperor > Chapter House > Heretics > taking a leak on Leto 1's cranium inside his tomb > grabbing Stilgar's wife's ass in front of him > whatever his son wrote

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:58:29 No.9945272 File: 1.38 MB, 579x807, Dayside Taldain.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What are good books to read during an acid trip?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:59:32 No.9945275 File: 401 KB, 1024x634, warbreakermapsmall.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9945237 You are looking for Dichronauts by Greg Egan.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 12:59:33 No.9945276 >>9945188 Dichronauts by Greg Egan?

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:01:47 No.9945284

>>9945260
"Why do they care about fashion and tradition why aren't they being obsessively pragmatic about war at the cost of everything their culture stands for! These duels are dumb why do people like them hurr durr." It's like you have to be such a soul dead robot to be ethical that the other alethkar nobility come off as the lesser evil

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:02:50 No.9945288 >>9945272 Whatever has the prettiest font.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:03:46 No.9945294 File: 1.10 MB, 1651x1940, 1467047537379.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9945276 >>9945275 yes, thank you boys

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:04:17 No.9945295 >>9945125 >Fire touched >Paw tattoo above pussy You just KNOW

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:05:15 No.9945299
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>>9939025
A big thank you to you anons from /lit/ for recommending this book to me. It was a jackpot and I wrote just about 2 lines of text about what I wish to read. It was definitely among the best books I've ever read if not the best.
Anyone got something else that is just as good or even better?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:10:08 No.9945313 >>9945299 Thousand Fold thought is better. Keep reading.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:10:17 No.9945314 >>9945020 >>9945056 >>9945169 Okay, now which of these are worth reading? Besides ASoIAF And what is GRI?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:10:31 No.9945316 File: 28 KB, 327x499, 41EGZcgdLhL._SX325_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9945272

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:10:32 No.9945317

>>9945284
I thought you were saying legit autism kek (which makes me really sorry for Renarin, actually, hopefully his Shardblade will unfuck him up a bit)
Dalinar just needs a good pussy, it definitely shows in his demeanor pre and pos banging that lady I don't remember the name. But seeing his Shardblade, it's better to just get used to his holier-than-thou attitude now man.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:11:25 No.9945320 >>9945314 An acronym that represents the acid test of all sffg kino: Gay, Rape, and Incest. Many bad books lack those traits. Many bad books have also have them. But no truly great sffg book doesn't have them.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:11:34 No.9945322 Redpill me on Sanderson, since he's got this kind of Terry Prachett thing going on. Which books/series do I read and which ones do I skip?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:12:33 No.9945325 >>9945314 Second Apocalypse and Prince of Nothing are the same thing. Prince of Nothing is just the first series in the Second Apocalypse saga. It begins with this book: >>9945299

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:13:37 No.9945330 >>9943960 I found the lore kind of meh, there wasn't even a codex to record characters and events so I didn't really get into it. It was a ridiculously fun game though and the fact it did meh and won't have a sequel is saddening

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:13:41 No.9945331 >>9945140 He wrote that episode himself.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:15:17 No.9945335 Are these writers good or bad: Erikson, Matthew Stover, Mark Lawrence, Abercrombie

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:15:18 No.9945336 >>9945125 >Mercy This is one of my major red flags. Female protag at all, but especially one named >Mercy >Prudence >Justice >Honour Etc.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:15:31 No.9945338
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>>9945330
>it did meh
It almost bankrupted the state of Rhode Island. 'Meh' is a huge understatement. It was even originally meant to be an MMO but--as easily seen--was scraped the fuck down.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:15:34 No.9945339 >>9945313 I finished the whole series including first 2 books from the second part. And agreed. The Thousandfold Thought was the best. The philosophical monologues from Kellhus directed at Achamian were my favourite,

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:16:28 No.9945344 >>9945275 what you reading cosmerefag? How's uni?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:16:29 No.9945345 >>9945320 There's no incest in Dune. Also, no rape. And the only gay dude is the Baron.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:17:32 No.9945347 >>9945336 >Faith >Fate >Melody

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:17:32 No.9945348 >>9945339 >I finished the whole series including first 2 books from the second part. Read The Gri Ordeal and Unholy Consult too.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:18:34 No.9945351 >>9945345 As long as one of those is present the conditions are satisfied.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:18:35 No.9945352 >>9945317 An inability to understand social norms and socially integrate are indeed signs of autism. So it having a spazz from storms

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:21:10 No.9945360 >>9945345 Just goes to show you didn't read the books. The baron performed gri on a certain boy.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:23:21 No.9945368 >tfw no one answers your question

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:24:56 No.9945371 >>9945368 I don't know

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:28:01 No.9945378
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>>9945344
I just finished Axiomatic by Greg Egan and now I am reading a novella by him called "The Four Thousand, The Eight Hundred". I am only three chapters in so I cannot tell if it is any good. I have two of his other short story collections next up and I am hoping they match up to Axiomatic.
I am exceedingly fortunate to have a group of tight-knit, non-judgmental adults I can communicate with in my graduate department and my life would be full of much more darkness if it were not for them lighting my way.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:28:43 No.9945379 File: 1.56 MB, 1600x1592, 1496538296215.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9945348 I'm a poorfag from Poland so it will be hard for me to get those anytime soon. I can't find any torrents containing those.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:32:22 No.9945391 Any sci fi or fantasy written by traps for traps?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:51:47 No.9945438 >>9945347 They're basically all just codewords for "Mary Sue incoming", with the obvious exception of Puritan characters in historical fiction because they actually did name girls "Chastity" and "Faith" and so forth

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:52:31 No.9945440 >>9945379 libgen.io my man

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:56:03 No.9945445 File: 374 KB, 1588x2500, starchart_taldain_color.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9945379 >>9945440 Also b-ok.org and you need to get yourself a bibliotik account, my dude.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:57:03 No.9945448

>>9945360
If you mean the boy that Feyd Rautha had booby trapped, he only killed him. Remind me of one instance of rape. Incest was only hinted at between Alia and Paul in Messiah(by the Bene Gesserit) and the Leto/Ghanima marriage was a formality. So show me.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:57:20 No.9945449 >>9945272 Where's Waldo

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 13:58:20 No.9945454

>>9945352
I agree with you on symptoms, but it's a stretch regarding Dalinar (compare with Renarin sperging the hell out of that fight and progressively unraveling until we see it might be his Shardblade for a cleaner portrait of social anxiety/high-functioning aspergers). Dalinar understands the social norms well and integrates when it suits him, so my tally is him being a self-serving dick at most.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 14:04:28 No.9945472 I can read the shadow of the torturer without having read any other gene wolfe right?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 14:10:32 No.9945488 File: 170 KB, 311x385, 1494011377149.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9945445 >>9945440 >mfw

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 14:20:11 No.9945516 >>9945472 Yes

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 14:35:52 No.9945567 What book eill make me feel something?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 14:41:22 No.9945581 >>9945567 If little girls suffering makes you feel things, try the Broken Earth series.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 14:44:04 No.9945588 >>9945581 Only if I'm the little girl in question.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 14:45:28 No.9945593 File: 48 KB, 400x444, CqtvXDJVUAAdYSu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9945567 What do you want to feel?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 14:48:01 No.9945599 >>9945593 Wonderment? Anything is fine I guess, I just haven't felt invested in a fantasy for so long

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 14:54:15 No.9945621 >>9945593 old school scifi was based as fuck

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 14:54:58 No.9945622 >>9945599 The King of Elfland's Daughter.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 15:10:36 No.9945670 >>9945622 Thanks it's on the list and you're off it.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 15:14:58 No.9945684

>>9945391

I'm working on a post-apocalyptic mad max-style setting following the adventures of a Conan the Barbarian style Chad and his cute girl (male) sidekick/fuckbuddy as the MC. Should be worthy of a GRI seal of approval but I'm worried that it's riding the line between fapfic and sff novel, leading to neither audience being satisfied (too much graphic sex for novel readers, too much story telling for chronic masturbators). Also doing a degenerate neo-southern dialect and deeply goncerned about veering into "as I lay dying" realm of incomprehensibility, although my phonetic British accents have been rated well by my extremely limited audience in the past.

I'm not actually aware of any trap writers at all, I think there might be some deranged and untalented tranny authors but I haven't read them. Byron and Wilde are the only non-straight authors I've ever liked

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 15:18:40 No.9945693 >>9945272 A large aquarium with lots of plants and animals in it

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 15:25:13 No.9945714 >>9945684 >too much story telling for chronic masturbators Not sure that's a thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 15:29:09 No.9945730 >>9945684 >deranged and untalented Don't be mean

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 15:40:45 No.9945778 File: 46 KB, 312x475, 31568281.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >get this >fuck, fuck, fucking, fuck, piss, fuck, piss, fuck, fucking This shit reads like a teenager wrote it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 15:42:44 No.9945782 >>9945778 God I hate Scalzi

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 15:44:28 No.9945786 Does someone have a Cyberpunk Literature chart or can recommend me some Cyberpunk books?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 15:52:30 No.9945807 Are first edition books difficult to obtain? Are they just more of a collector's item for being a small print run until 2nd edition or what's up?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:08:37 No.9945859 I liked Accelerando. Are there other books by Charles Stross that are worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:11:41 No.9945868 >>9945684 I never knew I wanted this.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:12:01 No.9945871 >>9945786 Neuromancer is possibly the book that starts cyberpunk as we know it today and the most recommended.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:14:06 No.9945880 >>9944569 >Also Geralt is kind of a whiny autist which is probably not the impression the games would give you. Geralt said "Fine", disgruntledly, every fucking quest in W3.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:16:17 No.9945887 >>9945871 And it's not very good. The first few chapters are some of the best SF you will ever read. Then the quality drops. As soon as they leave Japan it's like a different book.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:20:50 No.9945901 >>9944569 >Also Geralt is kind of a whiny autist which is probably not the impression the games would give you. Have you played them. He's not the gruff tough guy the marketing shows

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:21:30 No.9945904

>>9945730

I mean people who are one step removed from CWC and basically just use lipstick and long hair to cash in on pitybucks. When I'm reading LBGTBPQQI++AP lit I prefer to either not even know which letter(s) you affiliate with, or to see that you have a good sense of humour about it, hence Byron and Wilde.

>>9945778

Is it more cringy to overuse contemporary swear-words, or to make up nücuss words like "Frak"?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:22:51 No.9945911 >>9945887 Anon should follow up with Snowcrash. Sure it's terrible, but at least it's fun to read.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:29:29 No.9945938 >>9945911 >Sure it's terrible, but at least it's fun to read. mutually exclusive for anything but pseuds.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:30:11 No.9945940 >>9945938 Are you lost?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:30:17 No.9945942 >>9945730 It is a mental illness, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:37:24 No.9945964 >>9945782 Old Man's War was the most cringey thing I've read in a long time. That fucking scene with the sergeant and the tattoo, holy shit.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:37:32 No.9945965
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>>9945904
>I mean people who are one step removed from CWC
CWC isn't actually trans though. Even if he was it doesn't constitute a correlation between cwc types and transgender people. MTF and FTM people are usually just normal people that have a problem to deal with.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:44:15 No.9945987 >>9945621 They had to find a way for little boys to buy the book somehow.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:44:39 No.9945988 File: 82 KB, 783x590, 1502918845547.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9945965 >that pic saved

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:46:28 No.9945993 File: 31 KB, 461x519, 1441376577872-4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9945965 >MTF and FTM people are usually just normal people They're mentally ill people with way too much political power.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:47:33 No.9945999 >>9945993 >with way too much political power. there are people out there who actually believe this

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:48:23 No.9946001 >>9945965 haha, good meme indeed

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:48:35 No.9946002

>>9945993
>with way too much political power.
again, not every transperson is a political activist, or associates with lgbt. you just don't see them because they try not to be noticed. because, you know, that's the entire point of transition, to transition to the other gender, not to stand out like some kinda freak.
you know most transpeople don't support things like the pronoun laws in canada right? it's just cis politicians virtue signalling.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:48:52 No.9946004 >>9945993 >>9945999 SHUT THE FUCK UUUUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPP this is the science fiction and fantasy general, go somewhere else for political shit

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:50:20 No.9946008

>>9945965
>>9945993

I wasn't shitting on all trannies, I've known plenty, just seems like the nicest ones are the most likely to keep quiet and the turds are the ones most likely to leap out in front of the cameras, if there's some writers out there who break the trend I'd like to check them out. Not interested in "420ch/tg/: The Novel" though

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:50:35 No.9946009
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I need some thinking birds! The closest I got was Revelation Space, but it didn't count because they were all kill from the beginning and they couldn't fly in the first place.

In exchange, I offer some thinking arthropods. Pretty fun ride. Children of Time. I didn't finish it yet but so far so good. All I wanted in one place: hard sci-fi, voyage through the stars, colonization, contact and some giant bugs as a side-dish.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:51:53 No.9946014 File: 91 KB, 480x675, 1953-07+The+Magazine+Of+Fantasy+And+Science+Fiction+by+Ed+Emshwiller-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9945987 They seem to not want teenage boys to read these days for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:53:17 No.9946018 >>9946004 Just report

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:54:59 No.9946024 >>9946014 Reading is for women.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:56:42 No.9946029 >>9946024 This.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:57:54 No.9946033 >>9946009 I really need to read that one, sounds like it's right up my alley and from what I've heard it's pretty good.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:57:57 No.9946034

>>9945999
Because it's true. The gay mafia has too much power.
>>9946002
Even disregarding the politics, not treating it as a mental illness is a mistake. You can't "transition" into something else, we don't cut off the limbs of people with that other body dysphoria illness so we shouldn't fuck people's hormones and mutilate their junk just because they feel like it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:57:59 No.9946035 I need some positive, uplifting sci-fi. None of that humanity sucks and we're all doomed shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 16:59:47 No.9946039 >>9946024 It's a shame they can't write and only read garbage, otherwise I'd be fine with womanmemes taking over literature.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:00:46 No.9946043 >>9945964 I think the very beginning was okay

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:04:29 No.9946053 >>9945263 >his son I'm sure it's all KJA's work and Brian just puts his name on it so that it'll sell more.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:04:37 No.9946054

>>9946034
>not treating it as a mental illness is a mistake
Totally depends. It is certainly a disorder of some kind, but does it it actually serve a purpose to ostracize people with it? the only dysfunctional aspect is gender dysphoria. Which is distinctly different from dysmorphia, as transition actually does treat it and significantly improve living conditions in pretty much every way on average. A medical practitioner should focus on the well-being of their patients, it's the case that transition is considered the only treatment that improves the well-being of dysphoric patients.
And why shouldn't we mutilate people just because they feel like it? are you an authoritarian? People should have 100% control over their own bodies in my opinion, but I guess that's just political ideology. controlling what people should want and think is pretty sjw.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:04:55 No.9946056 >>9946039 >womanmemes it's womamemes, bitch

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:06:23 No.9946061 >>9946039 >and only read garbage Women just read more period. Yes, they read more garbage, but their reading majority is so overwhelming that they also read more good stuff at the same time.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:08:33 No.9946066 >>9946056 I thought it was womemes

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:10:01 No.9946071 >>9946066 >>9946056 it's actually "bad meme kys"

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:14:10 No.9946085 >>9946009 >>9946033 It's pretty good. Really gets the almonds going. I am serious about the thinking birds, though. Gimme.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:14:13 No.9946086 >>9946071 I'm reading To the Lighthouse, by Virgina Woolf And I had no fucking idea wtf was going on or who was in POV until page 35 or something. At least I can't stop turning the page, got some real nice prose here and there desu.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:16:18 No.9946094 https://pastebin.com/dfKnMyai Looking for some advice on my outline for my novel that I'm writing.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:29:51 No.9946129

>>9946094
>immediately
>“active” soul > "active soul" or > AN "active" soul"
>for magic BY regular mortal mages
>Woda
WHO?
>transferring part
"parts" or "a part"
>For mortal mages magic comes
What? Do you mean the mage'S magic?
>Divine Souls are able to control all forms of energy, not just gal, in larger quantities.
I would say "can" instead of "are able to"

>When a human is given a divine soul (a demigod) for all it’s advantages it also comes with disadvantages. Having part of a divine soul means speaking the language of the divine, it makes the demigod unable to communicate with those who are fully mortal. These demigods are also now a part of both the mortal world and the divine world, while they are stronger than all who are mortal they are now on the playing field of the divine, of which they are the weakest.
Looks fine, if you write everything on par with this paragraph, then it could be interesting.

>Sea Wizards are forbidden from entering land or seeing land, the more time they spend on the sea the more powerful they get.
So constantly powering up? I mean they're "always" at sea.

Then I stopped.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:31:25 No.9946134
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>>9946054
>but does it it actually serve a purpose to ostracize people with it?
No, I don't ostrich anyone. I just think psychological problems should be dealt with as what they are. And chopping people up doesn't fix anything, the suicide rates are the same but slightly higher.
>And why shouldn't we mutilate people just because they feel like it?
Pretty sure you're just trolling now.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:33:34 No.9946143 I need some fantasy with knights and dragons and magic

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:38:50 No.9946152 File: 133 KB, 665x614, b63252c34efcd32fbdaa45c5403b20e0050c5c648acebe2b41a83ab34cc293f9.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9946094 >5 books already planned

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:39:17 No.9946157 >>9946143 >The Red Knight. >Children of Hurin. >The Waking Fire.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:40:59 No.9946161 >>9944584 >Riyria books How to start? Chronologically or Publication order?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:41:27 No.9946162 >>9946143 Sufficiently Advanced Magic

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:42:28 No.9946167

>>9946134
>And chopping people up doesn't fix anything, the suicide rates are the same but slightly higher.
I fthey don't transition then they're spending their lives feeling trapped as someone else, and if they do transition they're pretty much shunned. It's not really a mystery why the suicide rates stay the same.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:42:55 No.9946170 >>9946162 Ignore this anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:43:55 No.9946177 >>9946157 >The Red Knight is that GRI approved now?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:44:15 No.9946178 >>9946134 >the suicide rates are the same but slightly higher. source me on that senpai.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:44:33 No.9946180 >>9946170 Why? I just finished the first book and I loved it. Especially the ending

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:47:14 No.9946188 >>9946177 It's clearly in top 10 of fantasy series past 10 years. >Maybe that's not so impressive when everything's pretty bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:48:17 No.9946193 >>9946188 >It's clearly in top 10 of fantasy series past 10 years. So is Rothfuss and Sanderson heurf duerf that makes it good

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:48:24 No.9946194

>>9946167
>feeling trapped as someone else
That's the thing, they're not. They have no idea what it feels like to be a woman so the idea that they are is preposterous. What if you feel like you're napoleon? Oh no, society shun me because it seems like I play a ridiculous dress up. They are what they are and their feelings needs to be fixed, not their perfectly fine bodies.

Anyway, since you admit it doesn't actually help to turn men into eneuchs with inverted dicks and women into freaks with salamis stitched on then why do you argue for it?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:53:47 No.9946207 >>9946194 >since you admit I didn't admit anything. I don't even know if your stats are true or something you saw on youtube.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:54:17 No.9946209 >>9946207 Trannies off themselves at really high rates, they also fail at them a lot too

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:58:43 No.9946227

>>9946129
Sorry, my English is spotty. I really used languages and words for ocean/water for character names because I'm unoriginal.The Proto-Indo European word for water is Woda so I used that.

Yes, the more time they spend at sea the more powerful that they get, so a very old Sea Wizard will have a lot of power but at that age expressing it will become very difficult. Similar to bending in Avatar the last airbending demigod magic is expressed through physical exertion and form.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 17:59:48 No.9946231 >>9946152 My use of the word books isn't meant to mean some epic novel. Each book might be a hundred to two hundred pages long. I use that term to break up sections in my head.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 18:02:00 No.9946242 >>9946227 Eh, that's what why we got Editors.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 18:05:54 No.9946257 >>9946231 Should begin with a bunch of 30-100 page short stories. Then turn those in to myths and legends in your world. That's how LOTR and Tolkien's universe felt so rich.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 18:14:40 No.9946290
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>>9946207
The stats are real but I find them less interesting than the reason why you think a clinically insane person should be able to go to a doctor and have something harmful done to themselves. All the studies I've read show the same thing but have one of them.
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 18:18:28 No.9946314 >>9946257 Yeah, if you write a mythological backdrop and let it influence and inform your story it will feel much more cohesive and authentic. It shouldn't be created in an autistic /tg/ manner but in a more literary way.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 18:21:04 No.9946328

>>9946290
>a clinically insane person
clinically insane? you a doctor now?
>should be able to go to a doctor and have something harmful done to themselve
you mean like going through chemotherapy
or taking addictive meds
or a bunch of other things that are, in the end, better than the illness

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 18:22:07 No.9946333 >>9946314 I got sidetracked writing the "bible stories"/mythology of a near-future criminal gang/cult, including illustrations, poetry, creation myths etc., one can go too far with this

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 18:28:10 No.9946357

>>9946328
>you mean like going through chemotherapy
>or taking addictive meds
>or a bunch of other things that are, in the end, better than the illness
These are things to combat real illnesses and not afflictions of the mind. While it is true that drugs can be used to treat mental problems that's not what they do for trannies, is it?
>you a doctor now?
No, but that's what they ought to be classified as, they can't make rational decisions. The only reason you're arguing against it is because of political motivations, you do not have these people's best interests in mind and you're not interested in the facts.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 18:41:37 No.9946411

>>9946209
Yeah but not more after srs or transition. how would you even test for that? there's been plenty of studies about general happiness and improvement of life quality is something like 95%.
And how would they know what women feel like? You realize it's physiological right? they have quite literal female brain chemistries, there's a reason they become happier on estrogen.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 18:44:36 No.9946428 >>9946357 >>9946328 Could you 2 fuck off. Only thing of value you're doing is bump the thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 18:46:01 No.9946432 >>9946411 >they have quite literal female brain chemistries [Citation needed]

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 18:46:13 No.9946434

>>9946357
>The only reason you're arguing against it is because of political motivations, you do not have these people's best interests in mind and you're not interested in the facts.
that's what they said when they sent homosexuals to get electroshock "therapy"
you don't know anything about the issue except for some factoids picked up on youtube videos, the only fact you've offered is a suicide statistic so it's pretty funny to see you set yourself up as some kind of "just the facts ma'm" guy

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 18:48:11 No.9946443 >>9946428 Why aren't you reporting them?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 18:49:52 No.9946454 >>9946439 >>9946439 >>9946439 Fresh Hot™ Bread. Butter Available.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 18:50:08 No.9946456 >>9946428 Isn't the thread almost a hundred posts over bumplimit anyway

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 18:51:11 No.9946458 File: 45 KB, 500x500, ba1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9946434 >that's what they said when they sent homosexuals to get electroshock "therapy" Curing pederasts is an undertaking well worth attempting.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 18:53:22 No.9946474 File: 254 KB, 959x714, mtf_brain_scan_differences.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9946432 Every single study done on it suggests so. I'll try looking up some, give me a min.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 18:53:52 No.9946476 >>9946009 One of the characters in Perdido Street Station is from a culturally different race of bird-people from the desert. Their alien avian culture and the mysterious past of that character gets unraveled during the book. Other stuff happens too.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 18:55:19 No.9946480

>>9946432
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v378/n6552/abs/378068a0.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7477289
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/85/5/2034
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11826131
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16870186
http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09513590400018231
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15724806
http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/content/131/12/3132
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583/?tool=pmcentrez
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jpsychires.2010.05.006
http://science.jrank.org/pages/2061/Diethylstilbestrol-DES.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7689007.stm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19341803
http://www.mediafire.com/file/brq4uevp3r8mwk4/sex+differentiation+of+the+brain.pdf

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 18:59:16 No.9946491 >>9946480 Gee, I wonder who could be funding all these studies to prove their feels true.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 19:02:30 No.9946508 >>9946491 The super rich trans cabals?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 21:18:12 No.9947053 >>9946054 >as transition actually does treat it and significantly improve living conditions in pretty much every way on average. yes by getting the suicide rate up after all if they are dead they can't vote for feeling bad

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 23:14:02 No.9947359 >>9945472 You can but it might help to read some earlier stuff to get used to his style.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 23:15:05 No.9947362 >>9945786 Stand on Zanzibar

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 23:39:58 No.9947452 >>9945880 Yeah but gamers tend to be autistic or stupid so I tend to assume most people that played miss stuff like that and only notice him killing lots of stuff so see him as a generic badass with a gravelly voice.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 23:41:19 No.9947459

>>9945901
Yeah I've played them and unfortunately interacted with the community a lot. Most people don't seem to have gotten it even when CDPR started doing a pretty good job presenting him. He's still more autistic and whiny in the books though, if only because games aren't a good place to demonstrate a main character's emotional retardation.

Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 23:43:19 No.9947466

>>9945965
>MTF and FTM people are usually just normal people that have a problem to deal with.
I mean, I've only ever interacted with them on the internet but 9/10 of the ones I did qualified as mentally ill even if you ignore that gender dysphoria is considered a mental illness.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 27, 2017 23:48:32 No.9947479 >>9947452 Well I'm a quest completionist. Got really tired of Geralt's constant "Fine" all the time. Come one Geralt, say "ok" or "alright" once in a while.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 28, 2017 00:34:38 No.9947627 >>9945176 Try sergei lukyanenko series, no werewolves

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