/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.9885772]

Are there any fictional accounts of an all-out race war in literature?

[Anonymous No.9885776]

Turner Diary. Literally race war the book

[Anonymous No.9885780]

The Iron Dream

[Anonymous No.9885793]

i've always been so addicted to 4chan but i think this is going to make me quit, i feel so dirty, it's only a matter of time before the nsa colludes with local enforcement using parallel construction to round up everyone on 4chan except maybe people on that pony board or the one about trains

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.9885801]

>>9885772
>race war where both sides are mostly white
not even worth getting the popcorn out

[Anonymous No.9885804]

>>9885801

[Anonymous No.9885807]

>>9885772
What is that supposed to be?

[Anonymous No.9885811]

>>9885772
>/pol/

[Anonymous No.9885813]

>>9885807
looks like a phone bro

[Anonymous No.9885817]

>>9885793
Everything gets ruined nowadays. Thats why I'm here, I've been collecting and reading mostly older books that pull me away from the current this modern world.

[Anonymous No.9885820]

>>9885807
some /pol/ster ran over and killed a fatty anarchist during a white nationalist rally today

[Anonymous No.9885821]

>>9885793
also, one time i wrote an email where i state that i wasn't 100% affirmative action was really effective achieving equality for underrepresented groups, plz no gulag, i'm having an anxiety attack

[Anonymous No.9885822]

>>9885793
>except maybe people on that pony board

>he doesn't know about /mlpol/

[Anonymous No.9885826]

>>9885793
also, one time i wrote an email where i stated that i wasn't 100% convinced that affirmative action was really effective achieving equality for underrepresented groups, plz no gulag, i'm having an anxiety attack

[Anonymous No.9885828]

>>9885804
both the left and the right tend to mistake the technocapital warmachine for 'white people' or 'western civilisation'. When 'white people' and all people for that matter are just in for the ride.

[Anonymous No.9885831]

>>9885804
wow wtf so based

[Anonymous No.9885833]

>>9885828
true dat, that's where marx fucked up bad, class struggle doesnt drive history, technology drives history and then our ideology and class structure changes based on the current tech, technological materialism not some dialectic between classes

[Anonymous No.9885836]

>>9885828
White people are probably responsible for 97% of the technocapital warmachine you speak of.

[Anonymous No.9885837]

>>9885828
>technology and capital are faceless, not tools for the wealthy, all powerful (white) elites

[Anonymous No.9885838]

>>9885820
Wasn't his mom's maiden name (((Bloom)))?

[Anonymous No.9885846]

>>9885837
when the technology changes the elites change

[Anonymous No.9885849]

>>9885836
the whites have always been leaders of war technology since the first aryan war chariots rode out of the eurasian steppes to conquer half the world thousands of years ago

[Anonymous No.9885850]

>>9885846
that doesn't make it an independent agent

[Anonymous No.9885856]

>>9885849
plz no gulag, i know the turks where the first to effectively uses cannons in a major siege against constantinople and that genghis khan used to stirrups and mounted archers to conquer almost as far and wide as the original ayran diapora

[Anonymous No.9885887]

>>9885837
white leftists often have the most egocentric perspective of all. alt righters feel humiliated and are obsessed with reclaiming a lost sense of masculinity, while white liberals feel guilty and want to be redeemed. its all about their own personal redemption. which is why it can be so exhausting even talking to them. the 'white left' (baizuo) is a term found in chinese communist party propaganda campaigns against western liberal values. China, like America, is entering an era of riots and shapeless civil unrest. The party is cracking down on individualism, sublimating all libidinal energies in the party and the leader. Mao smiles. American individualism was forged in the fires of the calvinist great awakening . It is a fulminating individualism, terror guilt and humiliation before a wrathful and all powerful god, terror that persists even in the absence of said god. This is why americans have always been compelled to flee. into the wild west, doomsday sects and new age cult gurus, outer space, opiates. in the 21st century options grow scarce . there is nowhere left to run.

[Anonymous No.9885888]

>>9885820
Idk about y'all but i hear about more terroristic homicides by white people than muslims these days. Its always some edgelord neo eugenicist. Like that white guy who stabbed three other white guys on the train. Tom metzger used to say the real enemy of the white race was other white "race traitors." Why are alt righties such low-rent cucks?

[Anonymous No.9885891]

>some fat americunt died
wow
its nothing

[Anonymous No.9885898]

>>9885887
Sounds like both China and America need the Mystical Body of Christ. Fortunately, they're on the case.

[Anonymous No.9885908]

this shit is giving me too much anxiety the thought that google knows every single post we ever made because they provide the captchas we must verify before each post is truly horrifying, i'm never posting here again, i feel like we've done nothing wrong but the thought of being exiled to some little alt-village in montana or mississippi because no one will rent to you, sell property to you, or do any kind of economic exchange with you due to running awful of the google empire is just too horrifying, is it really worth your life to post dank memes and shitpost? hell mother fucking no

[Anonymous No.9885911]

this shit is giving me too much anxiety the thought that google knows every single post we ever made because they provide the captchas we must verify before each post is truly horrifying, i'm never posting here again, i feel like we've done nothing wrong but the thought of being exiled to some little alt-right village in montana or mississippi because no one will rent to you, sell property to you, or do any kind of economic exchange with you due to running afoul of the google empire is just too horrifying, is it really worth your life to post dank memes and shitpost? hell mother fucking no

[Anonymous No.9885912]

>>9885911
get rekt memester this is what you and your kind deserve

[Anonymous No.9885914]

>>9885891
It's a moral loss for the alt-right, unless by some ridiculous chance the driver happens to be a lefty.

[Anonymous No.9885917]

i leave you with this

[Anonymous No.9885919]

>>9885914
good, your actions have consequences faggots.

[Anonymous No.9885924]

>>9885911
Well obviously in the event of that the proactive option is to go on the warpath and destroy them before they can destroy you. Raze the world and salt the earth, Anon, and rule the ruins as a king.

[Anonymous No.9885926]

>>9885914
he's going to say he was scared (and the video shows people throwing things at the car on the way down, and smashing it with baseball bats after) so he will only be convicted of leaving the scene of an accident, then sjws will go nuts, and the federal government will charge him with terrorism and execute his ayass... don't forget jeff sessions, despite being called a racist neo-nazi by the liberal media, is most famous for convicting and executing the leader of the kkk in louisiana

[Anonymous No.9885928]

>>9885891
>some fat americunt died because someone drive a car into a large crowd
While people die all the time, it's troubling to see someone murdered during "peaceful" protest and counter protest (each side was undoubtedly looking for a fight) in such a dramatic fashion. It's also troubling to see /pol/fags encourage and praise violence like this. 4chan "right wing death squad" larping has come to it's logical next step.

[Anonymous No.9885930]

>>9885917
Counterpoint: everywhere else on the internet is worse, and that's not a joke. This is one of the last truly authentic communities of honest people on the internet, and all the other ones are chans, too.

[Anonymous No.9885933]

>>9885924
do u think i could find salvation and forgiveness in the church? they even forgive and protect pedos and i never even so much as posted a pepe, although i did say tanehisi coates sucks

[Anonymous No.9885935]

>>9885930
yeah, "honesty" and "authenticity" is all fun and games right up until you get indicted for hate crimes conspiracy

[Anonymous No.9885946]

>>9885887
this explains why the alt right can get so homoerotic. their masculinity is purely negative a swole aryan dude arno breker power fantasy, a n homage and a fuck you to the kids who bullied you back in middle school and the liberal managerial gynocratic hags. like many other american teen subcultures from history, the pepe kids want annihilation.

[Anonymous No.9885947]

>>9885933
Don't worry, Anon, we think Coates sucks too, mostly because he is an atheist. But you'll have to genuinely believe in God, and you're not allowed to masturbate. But, yes, if you sincerely repent of your sins you'll be forgiven.

[Anonymous No.9885949]

>>9885935
As long as you're not actively organizing a race war or real hate crime on here your fine. You're even fine to talk about those things and be in those threads. The government and police would only care if you went and committed a hate crime or are the leader of a domestic terrorist organization which commits hate crimes. There's no point in putting resources behind convicting shitposters who say "all niggers should hang" or "race war when" because it's hard to prove those statements actually inspired a crime.

[Anonymous No.9885951]

>>9885946
i was watching the baked alaska stream of the march on youtube and "moustache matt" of hwndu fame took over the stream after mr. alaska got pepper sprayed, and wow that dude is very gay indeed, i mean the moustache should have been a big red flag but like dude is such a flamer

[Anonymous No.9885955]

>>9885888
Oh just shut the f*** you lying piece of s***.

[Anonymous No.9885960]

>>9885955
Those also appear to be the "since 911" numbers used to try and make us think Arabs aren't so bad so we'll take more of our greatest ally's dysfunctional neighbors/cousins off their hands.

[Anonymous No.9885963]

>>9885955
>the most peaceful time in the history of the world
>lowest rates of death from war and violence ever
>I have a higher chance of cracking my skull open in my bathroom than dying by a terrorist attack
I'm not saying radical Islamic terrorism isn't a problem or shouldn't be contained, but I have no idea why people are so pathologically afraid of Islamic terrorism

[Anonymous No.9885966]

>pepe posting faggots are getting their pants full of shit

[Anonymous No.9885970]

>>9885963
>>the most peaceful time in the history of the world
>20th century most horrific violence in the history of species

yeah if you start counting on september 12th, 2001 it's been a very peaceful 16 years, i'm sure it's a trend that will last

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.9885973]

>>9885963
The thing is that we can count on a certain amount of accidental deaths per year by people falling in their bathtubs. Islamic terrorist attacks, while statistically as improbable, can occasionally manifest themselves as large-scale events. And it's random. One year we'll have 0, and then on 9/11 we'll have 3,000. It's the inconsistency that's frightening.

[Anonymous No.9885975]

>>9885947
Ta Neshi coates is merely a calvinist who substitutes God for Racism/White Supremacy. Blacks get the fear part of calvinism. Whites get the guilt part.

>>9885951
gay dudes are instinctively attracted to fascism because they have been made to question their masculinity from an early age. All major media figures associated with the alt-right are at least a little queer.

[Anonymous No.9885979]

>>9885963
stfu steven pinker the world is dogshit and we are all doomed

[Anonymous No.9885984]

>>9885963
i like how professor pinker ignored the congolese war that involved 7 nations and claimed millions of lives only to end in 2003, some of the bodies from that slaughter probably haven't even fully decomposed and he's declaring the most peaceful time in human history, soros needs to send pinker some bux to remind him that blm

[Anonymous No.9885987]

>>9885975
> that's right, goyim, everyone on the far right is gay and you don't want to be associated with gayness do you?

[Anonymous No.9885995]

>>9885987
i'm not saying everyone on the far right is gay, you should watch the baked alaska stream they meet up with some back woods hill billy dudes that no one could understand, they were like "we tha backwewds ruffs" and everyone is like "wait what can you repeat that plz"

[Anonymous No.9885997]

>>9885987
all the professional alt-right figureheads do seem to be a gay clique though

[Anonymous No.9885998]

>>9885919

so will yours

[Anonymous No.9886002]

>>9885987
mfw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub4qnyDusqU

[Anonymous No.9886004]

>>9885793
Yeah I just deleted my twitter account because of it

Some pretty gross reactions on all sides

What peeves me most is the alt righters (of which admittedly I'm probably classed), keep saying
>hurr they're not KKK or Nazis!
The symbolism of the torches and the chanting of "Blood and soil" is so distinct and clear but these cowards still won't admit it. Is it because they feel some guilt about it?

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.9886009]

>>9886002
what the fuck is even happening in this country?

[Anonymous No.9886010]

>>9885970
Last time I checked the Mongols weren't at my doorstep burning my village or I wasn't one of the tens of thousands dying per battle in the Napoleonic wars or my neighbor wasn't bashing in my skull with a rock over a hunting dispute. My point is that this is by far the safest time to live in human history and I'm not going to buy into the terrorist in my neighborhood narrative if it's as rare of an occurrence that it currently is.
>>9885973
Outside of the Middle East, terrorism follows a broad pattern of focusing on major metropolitan areas at infrequent times. I have no doubt more attacks are being planned but I'm not going to hit the panic button because of Red Scare style rhetoric. It's a serious issue but it's not worth a major change in policy/values.
>>9885984
Millions of deaths over the billions of people alive is still negligible and still follows the trend of decreasing violence.

[Anonymous No.9886013]

>>9886002
Doesn't Spencer have a wife and kid? Trying to smear right wing thinkers as gay seems like a very jewish thing to do.

[Anonymous No.9886021]

>>9886010
>Millions of deaths over the billions of people alive is still negligible and still follows the trend of decreasing violence.

isn't that the same kind of sick logic churchill used when he caused a famine in bangladesh "oh who cares it was overpopulated anyways"

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.9886022]

>>9886010
>It's a serious issue but it's not worth a major change in policy/values.
Literally thousands of preventable deaths in the West aren't worth policy changes?

>a single person dies of an e. coli infection
>products are recalled across the United States
>3,000 people die of a preventable terrorist attack
>well that's the nature of living in a major metropolitan center
You can't be serious.

[Anonymous No.9886026]

>>9886021
It was definitely the same.logic the English used during the Irish Famine

I can't remember who exactly, but someone in the government described the Irish as rabbits who eventually and inevitably overpopulate. He thus concluded to feed them would be to cause even greater suffering.

Pretty sick but kind of true I guess

[Anonymous No.9886028]

>>9886013
spencer was in an oscar wilde production in college, come on dude...

no but actually spencer's family have a bunch of money from owning plantations in the south, he's just an old money confederate asshole, not some new age charlemagne, i'm concerned about the original "high trust" vaues of the early dutch and english colonists being replaced with a culture of third world corruption, but as a northerner i have no love for confederate shitlords, fuck spencer t b h

[Anonymous No.9886031]

>>9886022

Preventing possible new infections of e. coli means pulling products from shelves.

Preventing even only one future possible terrorist attacks means limiting the freedom of movement and association of virtually everyone

And if an attack *was* preventable, one has to ask--why wasn't it prevented? Because it wasn't actually preventable! Whoopsie!

[Anonymous No.9886033]

>>9886026
and bangladesh is now one of the most overpopulated countries on the planet so he did have a point, plz no gulag

[Anonymous No.9886039]

>>9886033
holy i just can't stop hateposting, fml, i just want to be a politically correct maxist believer again

[Anonymous No.9886041]

>>9886031
Exactly. No government policy is perfect, especially with an issue as complex and multivariant as global terrorism. E. Coli doesn't learn to drive semis into crowds when you limit the supply of explosive material.

[Anonymous No.9886043]

>>9885772
The memoir that was turned into the movie Come and See was about a race war on the Eastern Front.

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.9886054]

>>9886031
A few points. First, there actually are policy prescriptions we are able to put in place that can minimize the prevalence of terrorist attacks. Part of the reason we haven't had another 9/11 is because of those policies. The problem with knowing how many terrorist attacks have been prevented due to policy prescriptions is that the people who want to commit large-scale terrorist acts tend to be dissuaded by how difficult those policy changes have made it.

The second point is that, 9/11 was actually preventable. Airline security firms proposed hardened cockpit doors prior to the attacks, and they wouldn't have taken place if their proposals were taken seriously.

And third,
>limiting the freedom of movement and association of virtually everyone
No, just Muslims.

>>9886041
Shut the fuck up no one's talking to you

[Anonymous No.9886056]

>>9886028
Plantations? Wasn't he born in Massachusetts? His family is uber wasp, not sure where you are getting this information.

[Anonymous No.9886059]

>>9885888
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

[Anonymous No.9886060]

>>9886056
his mother was from the south and he grew up in texas

[Anonymous No.9886063]

>>9885973
Bathtub deaths just don't get the exposure terrorism does. If the news had video of every person who slips in a bit of shampoo that fell on the bathtub floor and hits their head on the edge of the tub and you could see them stumbling around half conscious for a bit before collapsing, and then you got to see their spouse's reaction to finding them and the EMTs trying to save them before finally giving up and covering the body and taking it away, then some people would probably be terrified of showering.

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.9886064]

>>9886063
Bathtub deaths aren't caused by other people. It's like asking why a murder gets more local news coverage than someone dying in a car accident. It's because a crime was committed.

[Anonymous No.9886067]

This whole "movement" got too popular too fast and it attracted too many stupid people, it was only a matter of time before someone got hurt for real.

Although, to be honest, there's nothing intellectual about having racial preferences (those are somewhat instinctive), but to defend those preferences to the general population you do have to be at least minimally intellectually equipped, because the general population is too brainwashed by the intense propaganda of the last ~50 years.

So this will be a loss for the white nationalists, but certainly not the death blow. If they learn from it they can come back stronger.

[Anonymous No.9886075]

Being violently ethnically cleansed from your people's own territory including your nation's capital city by mass deliberate demographic replacement immivasion is much more concerning than people slipping in the bathtub you twat.

[Anonymous No.9886080]

>>9886054

So, yes and no. The reason we haven't had another event like 9/11 is analogous to the reason why we haven't had another event like Pearl Harbor. Or...wait! No, the reason we haven't had another event like 9/11 is that, for the time being, 'preventing terrorism' is synonymous with 'blowing the fucking shit out of identifiable threats in predominantly Muslim countries'. But the direction of the threats are open to change--or perhaps multiply--especially in what is becoming an increasingly fraught and contentious domestic situation.

Muslims really aren't the only ones that commit terrorists attacks; they've just been the most successful--so far.

How many 'native son' militias are there in the United States? How many more are we likely to see in the coming years? How long until they grow tired of 'peaceful demonstration' and decide it's time to take 'real action'?

Seems like it's already happening. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Malheur_National_Wildlife_Refuge

But we don't call these 'terrorist attacks'. Or not yet.

Where will your civil liberties be, then?

[Anonymous No.9886088]

>>9886080
>Muslims aren't scary
>you should be afraid of white people

Please kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.9886089]

>>9886064
Bathtubs with potentially slippery floors made out of dense material are made by people, soap that can become a dangerous lubricant is made by people, the habit of taking a shower has to be reinforced by people.

[Anonymous No.9886090]

>>9886080
>How many 'native son' militias are there in the United States? How many more are we likely to see in the coming years? How long until they grow tired of 'peaceful demonstration' and decide it's time to take 'real action'?

Hopefully sooner rather than later. Whites have gone from 90% of the population to 60% since 1965. We are dealing with a population replacement plan that's being coordinated by our own government, and we must fight back against it and regain control of the levers of power before it gets any worse.

[Anonymous No.9886091]

>>9886080
>Seems like it's already happening. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Malheur_National_Wildlife_Refuge

we don't call those "terrorist attacks" because the only death in that incident was when a federal agent killed a demonstrator, the only "attack" was by the government on it's own people

[Anonymous No.9886093]

>>9886088

You should be leery of any group that is willing to commit violent acts against groups of innocent people for political ends.

[Anonymous No.9886095]

>>9886089
the difference is when an elderly person has a railing installed in their shower so they don't die they aren't called a racist

[Anonymous No.9886098]

>>9886091

Please extrapolate. Here >>9886090 is a serviceable data point to start from.

[Anonymous No.9886099]

[Anonymous No.9886100]

>>9886091

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16th_Street_Baptist_Church_bombing

You could also do well to review the history of the Civil Rights Movement

[Anonymous No.9886101]

>>9886095
>elderly person
>not racist

[Anonymous No.9886103]

>>9886099

MADMAN
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[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.9886105]

>>9886080
>But we don't call these 'terrorist attacks'. Or not yet.
Shut the fuck up dude. WE DO CALL THEM TERRORIST ATTACKS. The media is leaping over each other to be the first to call these instances terrorist attacks.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Malheur_National_Wildlife_Refuge
The social and political aims of Islamic terrorism aren't desirable. The political aims of the Bundys were milder, and i'd argue even agreeable. This distinction matters. If the goal of the IRA is to wrench themselves away from an oppressive regime, then that's fundamentally different from the goals of ISIS, which is to establish an oppressive Islamic empire. Not making this distinction and comparing harmless old white guys who want less government to people who crucify children demonstrates how much of an obnoxious ideologue you are.

[Anonymous No.9886108]

>>9886095
I'm pretty sure leftists have called every person living, dead, or unborn "racist" by this point. The word has no meaning.

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.9886109]

>>9886100
Who doesn't call this a terrorist attack? Who are you arguing against?

[Anonymous No.9886114]

>>9886109

>the only terrorists we gotta worry about are Muslim terrorists!

You, you stupid cunt.

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.9886117]

>>9886089
Only ostensibly smart people can equivocate like this.

The reason murders scare us more than accidents is that they're carried out by agents who can continue to consciously choose to harm you. There's a force out there that actually wants to harm you, as opposed to being a victim of circumstance.

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.9886121]

>>9886114
You might actually be retarded. No one in this thread said that only Islamic terrorist counts as real terrorism, nor that non-Islamic terrorism should be ignored entirely. This is a figment of your ideologically-possessed imagination.

[Anonymous No.9886123]

>>9886105
>WE DO CALL THEM TERRORIST ATTACKS. The media is leaping over each other to be the first to call these instances terrorist attacks.

Then we're already a few steps toward what I was talking about earlier.

As for the Bundys. They were an armed group that took hostile action against it's own government. They didn't want 'less government'; they wanted access to government (i.e. public) property--for profit-without having to pay for the privilege. They were not successful because they were ineffectual. The same could be said for any the other failed terrorists that our military and security apparata have prevented or dissuaded.

[Anonymous No.9886126]

>>9886123
>As for the Bundys
...Who were involved in a situation you obviously weren't paying attention to. The government had been trying to get them off their land for years and was the aggressor.

[Anonymous No.9886128]

>>9885963

Some white people have this problematic attitude that makes them think that the occasional massacre is not an acceptable price to pay for Diversity.

[Anonymous No.9886130]

>>9886123
calling everything terrorism can only benefit the security state. it is foolish for the left to adopt the language of its enemies. the state will call you a terrorist as soon as they are able to.

[Anonymous No.9886132]

the washington post has a great quote from some alt-right guy from the rally, goes:

we're our here to represent our republican values which are number one standing for white identity, number two free markets, number three killing jews

you really have to wonder if that dude was for real but he did seem serious

[Anonymous No.9886133]

>>9886121

Wew.

>>9886054
>And third,
>[Preventing even only one future possible terrorist attacks means] limiting the freedom of movement and association of virtually everyone
>No, just Muslims.

What did I misinterpret about your meaning? If we are to prevent terrorist attacks, we have to prevent the movement and association of potential terrorists. But if Muslims, according to you, are the only people whose freedoms we need to limit in order to prevent terrorist attacks, that seems to suggest that you believe it is only Muslims that pose a credible threat.

No? Is that not what you meant?

Show me how you equivocate.

[Anonymous No.9886137]

>>9886130

That. Is. My. Point.

>>9886126

Ah. Glad that's cleared up.

[Anonymous No.9886143]

>tiki-torches, hawaii shirts and pina coladas for a goddamn political march

Why does nothing feel "genuine" nowadays?
It's just autism everyone.

[Anonymous No.9886144]

>>9886143

Follow your bliss, anon.

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.9886149]

>>9886123
>They were an armed group that took hostile action against it's own government.
The distinction i'm making is that terrorism per se is a tool, not a moral catastrophe in and of itself. It's not like rape or murder. It's political protesting at its most extreme.

[Anonymous No.9886153]

>>9886143
Americans have never had aesthetic taste. They always dress like clowns.

[Anonymous No.9886155]

>>9886128
Allowing diversity != accepting massacres. Most people don't really care about promoting diversity other than curbing brainless, unwarranted racism. White people aren't the only people opposed to terrorism you dumb fuck. Scapegoating nebulous "diversity" isn't getting to the root of the problem.

[Anonymous No.9886158]

>>9886149

What I am saying is that when you are calling for the curtailment of the rights of all 'potential terrorists', you are tying your own noose. Because the people being declared terrorists won't always look so predictably surly, brown and frightening. They'll start to look a lot like your pasty boipucci.

[Anonymous No.9886159]

>>9886143
post-modern epoch, nothing is authentic anymore, and now with social media where everyone is putting on a show for youtube/instagram/whatever it's even worse, people hoping post-modernity will end are going to be waiting a long time, this could last for centuries

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.9886161]

>>9886133
How is this synonymous with saying that only Islamic terrorist attacks are real terrorist attacks? I want less Muslim immigration (immigration is a privilege, not a right) and a security apparatus that targets people who are more likely to commit terrorist attacks (which would include young men like you and me). Muslims are a statistically bigger concern than any other group, so we should target them in particular.

[Anonymous No.9886163]

>>9886004
do they say they're not nazis? i mean they're nazis and they pretty much say they're nazis

[Anonymous No.9886164]

>>9886143
Yeah, let's get back to parading in bedsheets and black leather jackets like the good ol' days. Our race riots need more /fa/ flair in them.

[Anonymous No.9886167]

>>9886163
if i say i'm a spartan soldier it doesn't make it so

[Anonymous No.9886172]

>>9886161

You haven't been following my argument at all.

You want a strong security state. That's fine. You'll get it. You already have it.

I don't want it. But that's too bad for me.

[Anonymous No.9886173]

>>9886167
If you invoke Spartan imagry, share Spartan values, and try to act as Spartan as possible you may not be a Spartan but some kind of neo-Spartan

[Anonymous No.9886175]

the most interesting part of all these events is that the left's role is purely reactionary in the sense that they are just reacting to the right's moves, the left has been completely neutralized since occupy wall street

[Anonymous No.9886176]

>>9886163
Some are Nazi larpers, many are not and I'm guessing the vast majority do not align with Nazi ideology. What do you gain from using this label so loosely? Trying to make people look bad? Newsflash: Actual Nazis/Hitler are less and less seen as "pure evil" by new generations, it's becoming ancient history.

[Anonymous No.9886181]

>>9886175

It is hauntingly reminiscent of the Late Weimar years, right down to the street clashes.

Too soon for that, even so.

[Anonymous No.9886182]

>>9886176
before hitler, napoleon was the badman for everyone to hate, does anyone have a strong opinion on napoleon today?

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.9886183]

>>9886158
I'm not white you fucker. I'm capable of looking like the sort of people who carry out these attacks, especially when I grow my black bushy beard.

>when you are calling for the curtailment of the rights of all 'potential terrorists', you are tying your own noose.
I've never understood this argument. If the government wanted to target people like you and me, then whether or not they once targeted Muslims wouldn't bear any connection to that objective.

[Anonymous No.9886184]

>>9886182

The French, the English, the Spanish, the Italians, the Egyptians, the Russians...

[Anonymous No.9886187]

>>9886183
>especially when I grow (((my black bushy beard))).

now the truth comes out

[Anonymous No.9886191]

This is all the result of people spending too much fucking time on the internet. If there were decent jobs out there that weren't impossible to get and you could live a comfortable life, none of this shit would be happening.

[Anonymous No.9886194]

>>9885804
kek human is fighting each other since the dawn of civilization, like only white people is the only bloodluster

[Anonymous No.9886198]

>>9886184
i live in an egptian community, i've never heard anyone ever mention napoleon in a good or bad light (did hear someone say hitler did nothing wrong once) and mostly if they are muslims they don't like israel and if they are coptic they don't like muslims, no one even bothers to bitch about the british never mind the french

[Anonymous No.9886202]

>>9886183

>If the government wanted to target people like you and me, then whether or not they once targeted Muslims wouldn't bear any connection to that objective.

It's about the available legal regime and the recourse available to those targeted by government actions. When you change the laws to allow for enormously proactive and invasive executive 'interventions' in the lives of citizens, without consequence, you severely limit the possibilities of counter-action. Things have NOT always been this way. The executive branch has NOT always had the powers it now possesses. These are VERY RECENT developments, which you are apparently too young and too ignorant to know, understand, or appreciate.

[Anonymous No.9886204]

>>9886191
this. you see bourgeois boomers posting in nytimes comments like "those young men will never get good jobs again! enjoy working fastfood the rest of your life!" and it's like dude, that is why they don't care about showing their face because they know they are never going to have "real jobs" or houses or families or anything else

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.9886207]

>>9886172
Literally the first objective of a state is to protect its people from outside threats. Hobbes pointed out that basically since the state's inception that was its purpose. You wanting an enervated security apparatus isn't just your political choice. Lack of security concerns from powerful people who think like you make me and my family less safe.

>>9886187
I'm 1/4 injun, and my European 3/4 is mostly Spanish, Italian, and French. Not a Jew.

[Anonymous No.9886208]

>>9886183

>I'm not white you fucker.

Also, baby boy, I've seen your picture. You 'pass'. You don't get this cop out.

[Anonymous No.9886210]

>>9886155
>Most people don't really care about promoting diversity other than curbing brainless, unwarranted racism.

for the sjw left, brainless, unwarranted racism simply means white people existing. and 'diversity' does have to be promoted all the fucking time. remember all those rainbow ads on gay pride month, which is now a major marketing event like christmas or halloween. the christmas of buttfucking. remember those BBC videos in which 50% the population of the roman empire was black africans? nebulous 'diversity' equated is with goodness itself. and i'm a white straight male, supposedly living in the best of all possible worlds and also evil and responsible for all that's wrong in the world. our diverse managerial economy has transcended meritocracy and there's no place for me or so i am told. not representative enough of the diversity not a member of any vibrant communities. Anyways we probably deserve it as punishment for all the racism sexism patriarchy and queerophobia we have wrecked upon the poor oppressed victims of this earth.

[Anonymous No.9886211]

>>9886155

I think you people are the brainless ones. You offer no practical solution to curbing Islamic violence but when someone like Orban or Trump tries to fix things you all crawl out of the wooodwork bleating about "brainless, unwarranted racism."

[Anonymous No.9886212]

>>9886207

Oh no, better lock me up.

[Anonymous No.9886213]

[Anonymous No.9886220]

>>9886207
>Hobbes pointed out that basically since the state's inception that was its purpose.

Hobbes deduced a conclusion from axioms he proposed. That isn't 'pointing out' anything. He didn't cite any historical facts, just spun out a yarn in his study.

[Anonymous No.9886222]

>>9886210
don't be so uptight pride week in any major city is fun as fuck nohomo it's the last chance for Dionysian revelry you're going to get before islam wipes out fun

[Anonymous No.9886223]

>>9886213
http://www.somethingawful.com/news/bargain-book-bin-3/

[Anonymous No.9886225]

Literally human race with miniscule differences that are so small they barely register.

An actual race war would be against aliens from a different planet not someone from earth with a bit more melanin in their skin, you retarded Nazi-lite.

[Anonymous No.9886226]

Who cares? This is nothing. Call me when the "alt-right" starts shooting people in the streets

[Anonymous No.9886228]

>>9886222
>pride week in any major city is fun as fuck

i have seen twerking infants bathed in cum

i have seen paraplegics brandishing dildos and over five hundred taints in less than three hours

take your fag festival and go away

[Anonymous No.9886233]

>>9886228
lmao dude next time you attend a pride parade ...easy on the lsd

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.9886235]

>>9886202
I'm young and ignorant enough to understand that these security structures were put in place due to the changing technological and material nature of the threat. An individual has more power to carry out mass atrocities now than ever before, and the people carrying out these mass atrocities are often organized into non-state parties. So they have the administrative benefit of state-organization, but don't have the ability to surrender or be defeated outright. This is fundamentally different than fighting the Japanese or the South, and therefore requires different security apparatuses.

>>9886208
If it's summer people ask me where I'm from. If it's winter I pass.

[Anonymous No.9886238]

>>9886207
>Hobbes pointed out that basically since the state's inception that was its purpose.

Incidentally, you also got one of Hobbes' premises wrong. The first order of the state is not to protect its constituents from outside threats, but rather to protect all of them FROM EACH OTHER.

[Anonymous No.9886248]

>>9886222

I hate pride week, it makes us look like degenerates.

[Anonymous No.9886257]

Strange how an event called Unite The Right has essentially divided the right even more. Where did this overt Nazism shit even come from? I always knew there was an element of it kicking around but it seems like it blew up overnight. And I thought the right were the cooler heads. Now every two seconds I'm seeing a bunch of civil warmongering. This shit is fucking lame.

[Anonymous No.9886265]

>>9886257
dude the event was in the confederate south based around the removal of a robert e lee monument, of course old school kkk and neonazi types are going to come out in force, it's not going to look like hwndu in nyc where it brought out a multicultural bunch of anime watching anti-semites

[Anonymous No.9886266]

>>9886257

It was only a matter of time before white people figured out they could play the identity politics game themselves.

Why let irate Negros and frumpy lesbians have all the fun?

[Anonymous No.9886270]

>>9885911
Feels good not giving a fuck anymore, you should try it some time

[Anonymous No.9886271]

>>9886270
i'm going to stop giving a fuck by not going on the internet anymore, fuck this shit

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.9886272]

>>9886238
Hobbes wasn't really concerned with that distinction. My point is that is that he already made the best argument in favor of state sovereignty and the legitimacy of state power, which is its ability to guard individual security. That's what matters above all else.

[Anonymous No.9886275]

>>9886265
Good point.
>>9886266
It just seems so counter-productive though. I don't know, I'm just not a fan of identity politics at all. One of the major reasons I moved away from the left. In a time of conservative renaissance, why shift the focus to something like ethno-nationalism?

[Anonymous No.9886276]

>>9886271
good for you, hope you change your luck
see you tomorrow

[Anonymous No.9886287]

>>9886275

There always has been a focus on ethno-nationalism, it's just that Conservatism Inc has been better at suppressing it.

[Anonymous No.9886295]

>>9885793
At this point I think rounding up everyone on 4chan into camps would overall be a net gain for humanity.

[Anonymous No.9886303]

>>9886295
that's the problem, shitposting the day away calling people pseuds for liking dfw is one thing, but when google/government can work together to put everyone who lolled at a pepe in a camp it's time to stop posting not worth risking your life

[Anonymous No.9886310]

>>9885828
Americans always talk about everything in terms of "the white people do this" "the black people do that" no matter what their political views are, it's fucking weird, and incredibly insular.

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.9886312]

>>9886287
Because they understand that a society is at least partially an expression of the genes of the people who constitute it. It's not a pleasant reality, which is why they have to be polite and express their views subtly.

[Anonymous No.9886313]

>>9886310
It's literally because of jewish media and centuries of jewish political indoctrination