/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.9877266]

Why can't people like you accept there is not such a thing as a god that watches over us, do you think you're special? The probability for something like humanity exist is incredibly low, but do you any idea how many other galaxies and similar sistems like ours exist? It was just chance, and your "god" is nothing but the egoistical manifestation of people without a purpose in life that think they're special snowflakes.

[Anonymous No.9877275]

>The probability for something like humanity exist is incredibly low
as opposed to what?

[Anonymous No.9877277]

>Got BTFO so hard in the last thread he has to make a new one to damage control

Heh.. nothin personnel kid

[Anonymous No.9877281]

>>9877277
What the fuck are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.9877285]

>>9877275
Nothing.

[Anonymous No.9877288]

Great thread about literature, retard. Take it to >>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.9877293]

>>9877288
/pol/ is a hivemind of brainwashed christians.

[Anonymous No.9877406]

>>9877266
Thanks for posting my Pepe.

[Anonymous No.9877415]

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[Anonymous No.9877433]

>>9877415
1. Most atheists believe in reincarnation
2. Following the pope, atheists will still go to heaven.

[Anonymous No.9877444]

>>9877433
Not if they do not accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior.

>>9877415
The problem of Pascal's wager is that people never understand how seriously Blaise took it. He ended up living a truly Christian life, which is something almost no one would do here, since it's not edgy enough.

[Anonymous No.9877454]

>>9877444
Are you speaking against the pope?

[Anonymous No.9877473]

>>9877454
the pope is the antichrist

[Anonymous No.9877479]

Do you know how statistically likely it is for a something to come from nothing?
0%, e.g impossible.

[Anonymous No.9877482]

>>9877473
Have fun in hell.

[Anonymous No.9877487]

>>9877479
But the universe didn't come from nothing, it was a bunch of stars together that eventually blew up and created the universe.

[Anonymous No.9877518]

>>9877482
No u

[Anonymous No.9877521]

>he believes in an anthropomorphic god

[Anonymous No.9877522]

>>9877433
>1. Most atheists believe in reincarnation

Lmao, fucking retards

[Anonymous No.9877533]

>>9877454
I'm saying that following the Pope is not sufficient, you also have to accept Jesus Christ. The Scriptures are explicit about it.

[Anonymous No.9877534]

I could believe in god....i just can't buy into the idea that its an anthropomorphic being and that its not indifferent.

I also think I'm completely irrelevant, in the grand scheme of things, and so I don't think whatever brand of hocus-pocus I buy into is particularly important

[Anonymous No.9877540]

>>9877266
why are you so obsessed with denying someone comfort they find in something that's ultimately irrelevant? you fucking child

[Anonymous No.9877553]

>>9877540
Its de-politicising and inhibits human development.

[Anonymous No.9877559]

>>9877553
Development towards what? More of our long history of misery before our senseless extinction? Get your priorities straight faggot, without God politics is a waste of time

[Anonymous No.9877563]

>>9877559
>Development towards what?

our potential

>Prometheus

[Anonymous No.9877565]

>>9877553
No. I don't believe that. It's a tool used by people to oppress others. People are using science to behave the same way. Or are to trying to say fedora atheists are any better?

[Anonymous No.9877566]

>>9877534
God isn't intended to be an anthropomorphic being. Christ is both god and man but even at that he is just part of the trinity

[Anonymous No.9877567]

>>9877487
And where did those stars come from?
You don't have to answer that; just think about it. It would be an eternal cycle, since there would always be something that created the former. Unless, of course, an almighty deity is behind it all. The father creates, the mother (earth) nourishes.

[Anonymous No.9877569]

>>9877563
What's the use in development towards a potential if there is no meaning to anything? I'm not saying your wrong but why should we bother and not just live in pure degeneracy instead because it's more fun.

[Anonymous No.9877570]

>>9877563
What potential? We live, we eat, we shit, we die
Woah isn't that an inspiring to messge to start a revolution for

[Anonymous No.9877572]

>>9877534
>>9877521
>uses the term anthromorphic

Stop reading Sci-fi and start with the Greeks

[Anonymous No.9877573]

>>9877565
Literally any idea can be used to justify oppressing another person if it becomes common enough. It's also a lot more than just a "tool". You're spiritually dead if you think the only point of religion is to put power over another person.

[Anonymous No.9877581]

>>9877570
Don't project. We're capable of much more than existing.

[Anonymous No.9877582]

>>9877487
This is a gross misunderstanding of what the big bang is supposed to have been. Not to mention the Big Bang theory was developed by a priest and in no way proves anything about gods existence or non-existence.

[Anonymous No.9877587]

>>9877567
They were always there.

[Anonymous No.9877591]

>>9877581
How so? If nothing has any real meaning how can anything more than existing be possible?

[Anonymous No.9877593]

>>9877581
Without the love of God, absolutely not. All we would be is the arbitrary interaction of chemicals, our love for each other merely a thinly disguised transactional game. You aim to free yourself from this apparent exploitation of the Capitalists but all you are leading yourself to is a universal exploitation

[Anonymous No.9877597]

>>9877587
Not the anon you replied to but you're a fucking moron if this is what you legitimately believe and you're an embarrassment to the state of modern scientific education in schools.

[Anonymous No.9877599]

>>9877570
>What potential?
to transcend the misery, impotence and intellectual cuckoldry caused by theism....to become stonger than the sum or our parts and rise above being determined by our physical needs

[Anonymous No.9877600]

>>9877599
All of that means nothing without some higher manifestation of good.

[Anonymous No.9877601]

>>9877266
I believe that god is a congealment of energy. I believe when we die, we lose sense of self and individual thought, but congeal with god. You are a single cell of a giant, eternal, metaphysical slime mold. Only aware enough to know you are safe and warm. And that's it. Nothing else. I can't fucking wait. It's gonna be great.

This whole spiritual concept came to me after listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIWINsaEpnw
The more I've thought about it, the more I believe in it. I honestly believe this, and it makes me feel happy and safe. I'm not in any way spiritual otherwise.

[Anonymous No.9877602]

>>9877597
Less of an embarrassment than a christian.

[Anonymous No.9877607]

>>9877599
What you Nietzsche fags overlook is that Slave morality is the only means towards transcending slavery.
You don't overcome powerlessness and insignificance by denying your state in the world, like a manlet denying his height.
You do it by being a manlet that learns, that is by accepting your minisculeness but yet still seeing yourself in God, the God that died on the cross being the only point of that recognition's true possibility.

[Anonymous No.9877608]

>>9877602
So the priest who invented the Big Bang Theory is less scientifically minded than you are?

I would give all I had for one moment with your level of cognitive dissonance. It must be like some immensely powerful hallucinogen

[Anonymous No.9877610]

>>9877600
its for the good of humanity.

sometimes the journey is more important than the goal.

sometimes you need to partake in ajourney before you fid the goal.... theism inhibits this.

Why choose to get shackled to a sunken ship?

[Anonymous No.9877611]

>>9877601
But what can you do?

[Anonymous No.9877616]

>>9877608
You already have it

[Anonymous No.9877617]

>>9877610
Why are you using this term "humanity", why would you care about anyone but yourself if the rest are just the constantly mutating cell clusters your ego arbitrarily popped out from

[Anonymous No.9877618]

>>9877616
Fucking zinged me babes!

[Anonymous No.9877622]

>>9877610
Why is humanity relevant at all? We are nothing and come from nothing and will for the vast majority of the existence of the universe be nothing at all.

[Anonymous No.9877624]

>>9877611
nothing. you don't exist anymore. you're just a tiny part of something infinitesimally bigger. you're just a single cell, utterly content to be just a single cell.

[Anonymous No.9877626]

>>9877618
You have no babes, you're actually a fedoratipper pretending to be a christian.

[Anonymous No.9877629]

>>9877624
That's fucking boring.

[Anonymous No.9877656]

>>9877626
>ad hominems intensify

[Anonymous No.9877658]

>>9877656
Did you cry ad hominem when your Dad called you a faggot?

[Anonymous No.9877659]

>>9877622
>Why is humanity relevant at all

we're relevant to ourselves

[Anonymous No.9877663]

>>9877659
No I'm relevant to me, you are utterly irrelevant to me and practically everyone else

[Anonymous No.9877664]

>>9877569
Because then you won't make that cash money for the rich peoples

[Anonymous No.9877671]

>>9877629
So? It's my afterlife. If I'm gonna spend someplace forever, I want to be mindlessly content. You're not even happy now- you really want to spend ETERNITY having to deal with emotions and thinking? Fuck that.

[Anonymous No.9877672]

>>9877617
its interesting that for you abandoning the idea of god correlates the unquestioning adoption of dawikins' shtick and to radical individualism....very interesting

[Anonymous No.9877675]

>>9877607
What if I just do the last part but without the god stuff

[Anonymous No.9877680]

>>9877663
no man is an island

[Anonymous No.9877683]

>>9877664
Oh yeah I forgot that God is for fools but making billionaires money is for the enlightened modern man.

[Anonymous No.9877684]

>>9877672
Yeah because its the logical implication of an indifferent universe. Without God all you have is pic related

[Anonymous No.9877690]

>>9877680
A man is nothing but an island, give me my base needs, lock me in a vault and set the whole world on fire and I would know no difference to your pain and everyone elses. Nor have any reason to care.

[Anonymous No.9877691]

>>9877684
the universe is indifferent...humans aren't... otherwise why would you be getting your panties in such a twist about what someone else thinks?

[Anonymous No.9877699]

>>9877691
Your point here is a complete non sequitor. I never said we as individuals are indifferent, only there would be no rationally justifiable reason to care about anything but our own personal pleasure.

[Anonymous No.9877704]

>Its another passé atheism thread made by a retarded atheist.

[Anonymous No.9877705]

>>9877593
Even with the love of God that's the case

[Anonymous No.9877707]

>>9877671
I'd rather take another shot at life.

[Anonymous No.9877715]

>>9877704
This image is objectively incorrect, there are more atheists than theists.

[Anonymous No.9877720]

>>9877715
On what planet?

[Anonymous No.9877721]

>>9877690
>give me my base needs, lock me in a vault and set the whole world on fire and I would know no difference to your pain and everyone elses

no...but up until you get locked into your safe place you are the product of other people's actions, intentional or otherwise.

When your mother fucked that big, buck nigger whilst your dad watched she probably didn't realise she was creating you....and yet here you are, 12 years later, shitposting on a mongolian internet forum which you access by utilising technology that is the culmination of thousands of years of development...... without anyone thinking of you as an individual or an end-goal

you are not an island.

[Anonymous No.9877723]

>>9877699
>there would be no rationally justifiable reason to care about anything but our own personal pleasure.
What. You idiot- it's all evolution anyway- we help others because having a strong social foundation helps ensure your survival. Friends keep you safe, friends will feed you, friends won't attack you, etc, etc. We're driven to be kind to people with empathy which is a mechanism used to ensure our building of social circles, thereby our survival.

[Anonymous No.9877727]

>>9877705
Nope, love is the point of departure, the breaking point of intentionality. When one desires to be desired in the eyes of another, when the interaction becomes not merely matter towards self but rather experience towards experience, towards an identification beyond identification. Romantic love allows such experience of its transcendent power between one and another, but only through God is it fully authenticized.

[Anonymous No.9877729]

>>9877707
Okay, good luck, I guess.

[Anonymous No.9877733]

>>9877720
Earth.

[Anonymous No.9877736]

>>9877721
>>9877723
Both equally missing the same point. Without God if you and the entire human race got between what I wanted most I would extinguish you before heartbeat given the chance. This is the meaning of what it is to be an island.
Everything else you're talking about is merely circumstancial pragmatism, about as philosophically important as needing to check for toilet paper before I take a shit

[Anonymous No.9877740]

>>9877729
But how would you do that if you're a fucking cell?

[Anonymous No.9877746]

>>9877736
>Without God if you and the entire human race got between what I wanted most I would extinguish you before heartbeat given the chance
That's a you problem, not everyone else's. If the only thing between you and violence is the concept of god, then you have a problem. You're not the standard.

[Anonymous No.9877748]

>>9877733
The amount of religious people vastly outnumber atheists on Earth

[Anonymous No.9877749]

>>9877736

What's wrong with killing people to attain your goal?

[Anonymous No.9877751]

>>9877736
>getting cucked by religion this hard

[Anonymous No.9877752]

>>9877740
I'm not a fucking cell now, you asshole. Are you being dense on purpose?

[Anonymous No.9877756]

>>9877746
>Why don't you care about other people for literally no reason whatsoever

Yeah alright buddy, this isn't reddit

[Anonymous No.9877766]

>>9877756
>survival
>no reason whatsoever
whatever you say, fuckbrain

[Anonymous No.9877774]

>>9877749
read hobbes

[Anonymous No.9877777]

>>9877766
Can you not follow a simple line of argument?
I already specified I'm speaking about a circumstance where your survival is an impediment to my desires not a matter of pragmatic necessity

[Anonymous No.9877780]

>>9877777
YOUR survival is supported by your being nice to people, you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.9877790]

>>9877777
what a waste of quints

[Anonymous No.9877792]

>>9877567
And who created the creator? dumbass

[Anonymous No.9877797]

>>9877792
man...he's a figment of man's imagination

[Anonymous No.9877803]

>>9877780
>YOUR survival is supported by your being nice to people, you fucking retard.

Again I'm talking circumstancially. In certain circumstances fulfilling my desires require tolerating other people, in other circumstances, of which history is full of, the annihilation of others may be necessary for fulfilling my desires.
My desires may in fact be the annihilation of others but thats a different story

[Anonymous No.9877810]

>>9877803
>My desires may in fact be the annihilation of others but thats a different story

[Anonymous No.9877820]

>>9877803
>hurf durf Ima backpedal real fast
You're still wrong, and that's still a you problem, you massive fucking edgelord.

[Anonymous No.9877828]

>>9877820
I didn't backpedal anywhere you idiot. My argument has been the same from the beginning, atheists lack any argument for caring about the wellbeing of others apart from pure pragmatic self interest

>>9877810
Thats right and if I wasn't a Christian I'd wish you to die horribly, but since I am I wish you all the love in the world

[Anonymous No.9877882]

>>9877715
There aren't; even if they were it goes to show that there are less enlightened people than there are brainlet sheep goys.

[Anonymous No.9877896]

>>9877748
>Source: My ass

[Anonymous No.9877898]

>>9877752
Fuck off, racist.

[Anonymous No.9877904]

>>9877748
Half these "religious people" don't even go to church or pray, brainlet.

[Anonymous No.9877908]

>>9877882
>Atheists
>brainlet sheep goys
Theist is having an autistic tantrum again.

[Anonymous No.9877909]

>>9877896
The fact that like all of Africa, South America and South Asia are hyper religious should be a hint, in the West you might have an argument but on a global scale its no question

[Anonymous No.9877919]

>>9877898
>racist.
wait what?

[Anonymous No.9877922]

>>9877792
An almigthy deity wouldn't have a creator, that's the whole point. He would just be.

[Anonymous No.9877927]

>>9877909
>Africa, South America and South Asia
We're talking about real people.

[Anonymous No.9877931]

>>9877919
What the fuck is your problem man, stop opressing me.

[Anonymous No.9877935]

>>9877898
Great argument, now we know who won that debate.

[Anonymous No.9877936]

>>9877904
Sure but they believe in God. I don't think it's incorrect to assert that the majority of the human beings are theists.

[Anonymous No.9877940]

>>9877931
Ooh. ok. Fuck off.