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9867699 No.9867699 [Reply] [Original]

Can I sue a literary agency for mocking my work?

I submitted my novel (620 pages) written from the perspective of a carrier pigeon in World War 1 to a well-known literary agency and they accidentally copied me in to an email chain in which several of the emails mocked my work and also myself. This obviously hurts quite a lot but I'm wondering if I can sue them? I don't think they've noticed that I'm copied in yet and earlier today another email came through from the same chain.

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>>9867699
>written from the perspective of a carrier pigeon in World War 1

>> No.9867703

fard on my dick

>> No.9867704

you can sue, but if you think you any chance in hell of winning you'd have to crazy.

>> No.9867706

>>9867699
>written from the perspective of a carrier pigeon
I have to ask.. Is it a written account? Or are you just writing 'hoot' for 600 pages?

>> No.9867708

>>9867699
Just get their credentials, get your receipts in order, and blast them on social media.

Way easier, cheaper, and more satisfying.

>> No.9867719

>>9867706
620 pages and no it's in English. It is essentially a story written from a neutral perspective about both sides during the war. A young Hitler makes an appearance in Chapter 16 when the pigeon narrator fights for scraps of food with a small dog which turns out to be Adolf's pet dog Foxl.

>> No.9867730

Post the emails OP. I need a good laugh.

>> No.9867743

>>9867719
As others have said then, post contents of some emails to see what they're talking about.
It's very likely that all you'd do from suing them would be wasting your own time and money.

>> No.9867745

>>9867719
Tbh this doesn't sound totally terrible

I saw a book a few months back (so it was already published is my point) which was a dramatic retelling of the battle of waterloo from the perspective of a rabbit who got caught in the middle of it.

Yours sounds better.

>> No.9867753

>>9867699
good job. i chuckled.

>> No.9867766

>>9867704

They'll settle to not damage their stock and reputation. Most likely. Just don't make a fuss, gather the evidence, let them know you have them, and give them a choice - trial or settle. They always settle.

>> No.9867772

>>9867766
Hard to have a case like defamation if it's a private email chain.
Would have to be a public statement etc.

>> No.9867776

>>9867719
This doesn't sound too bad. Can I read a sample of it? I'm honestly interested.

>> No.9867779

>>9867699
Please post the emails.
Also it sounds very gimmicky and the perspective would probably get annoying after a while.
But I have no idea how you write so I could be very, very wrong.

>> No.9867784

>>9867772

Hard? Yes. Impossible? No. Defamation is defamation whether in a private e-mail chain or a public statement. He just has to prove it.

>> No.9867789

>>9867784
Well for now it seems we're still waiting on samples from this chain.
Right now not sure if they're saying "He's retarded" or "This story is retarded"

>> No.9867799

You sent them your work because you, in a way, wanted their opinion. You got it.
Suck it up and write something better instead of trying to sue them for rejecting you.

>> No.9867808

>>9867799

There's a world of difference between quiet rejection and lambasting his work in a large publishing firm chain email. If they continue on from there to say all of his work is to be disregarded henceforth, grounds for defamation. It's not like there's some huge literary firm pathetically picking through /lit/ just to insult him, for example.

>> No.9867816

>>9867808

Business people are humans too and judges will understand that. He probably has more grounds to accuse them of breaching copyright by leaking the emails that contain his work, even if it is just back to him.
Nobody is going to believe he's suing them out of anything but spite for them not publishing him anyway; they're not causing him any damages by this email.
Maybe in the US it'll work.

>> No.9867823

For the love of god post the emails. I need this

>> No.9867831

>>9867766
Settling is what damages your reputation among people that matter. Being "sued" only matters to brainlets who saw the headline in the news (if it makes news) for a single day, but brainlets are easily impressionable, as you show us, so it seems like a justified offense despite the fact that when it goes to trial it might as well be thrown in trash for the frivolous lawsuit that it is. But that part won't be a headline, don't worry.

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9867837

>>9867779
Here's where it started (as far as I can go back). The "Readers", probably summer interns or something, then removed the senior agent from the conversation and kept saying mean things about me to each other.

>> No.9867840

>>9867837
Oh wow, now I feel bad for OP.

>> No.9867844

>>9867837
>>9867840
Same, kinda disappointed too.

>> No.9867846

>>9867844
Now I feel bad for making fun of OP.

>> No.9867848

>>9867837
Sucks to see such a response but it looks like they're just rejecting it without going into anything abusive/defamatory.

Or is there more (severe) you're not showing?

>> No.9867849

>>9867837
kek

OP, its a funny premise; but you probably wrote something very amateur or low-brow. A perspective like that is very hard to pull of.

>> No.9867850

>>9867776
I can post a sample if you're interested sure. But I'd prefer to pick a passage from a later chapter, as I have pretty much decided to delete the first and second chapters since they are obviously not of a very good standard.

>> No.9867853

>>9867848
The "Readers" removed the senior agent from the conversation and just chatted among themselves. I think they are probably students interning for the summer or something but still, it doesn't feel good to read it. One of them sarcastically said it was "best-seller material" and the Louisa girl from the pic said "Haha pigeons and ww1, now there are two topics everybody cares about!" also being sarcastic.

>> No.9867854

>>9867719
Sounded shit in the OP, but you've turned it around.

>> No.9867856

>>9867719
>>9867850
Holy shit post an excerpt this sounds awesome

>> No.9867857

>My feelings are hurt so I'm going to sue.
Do you work for Google?

>> No.9867863

>>9867719
The reason why its shit and you got rejected is because pigeons aren't able to fucking think, have internal monologues or a stream of consciousness. You wrote 620 pages without realising the absurdity of the premise.

If you made it out as some weird po-mo concept they might have taken it more seriously.

>> No.9867872

>>9867850
Alright, that's fine.

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>>9867699
>perspective of a carrier Pigeon in world war 1
What a shit show. If I was sent an email to this in that email chain, I would've outright sent a .wav of laughter back at you with this image.

>> No.9867885

>>9867856
Okay but I'll show something from a later chapter if that's alright.

Here is a link where I pasted one passage: https://pastebin.com/1nrCG7dh

>> No.9867889

>>9867863
Who the f**k are you to say that pigeons don't think? Are you a pigeon? Have you ever been one?

>> No.9867895

>>9867885
A misunderstood masterpiece, like the film Jonathan Livingston Seagull.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgkk0Hdwmo8

>> No.9867973

>>9867885
I appreciate your effort into continuing this farce OP.

>> No.9867979

This is that 100 post anon again
Newfags, there is a poster who constantly creates really elaborate schemes to mess with people by getting them to feel sympathy for his character and then slowly dissolve into autism, it usually always begins with calling himself a genius (I've noticed this pattern) he used to joke about his 6 volume memoir or this time that he paid a publisher to publish his book and he scheduled a book signing at a barnes and noble where only his mom came and bought 3 copies of the book. He does this because he's admitted he has nothing else in life and gets some sort of pleasure out of it, anyway, he had me going for a little bit until I saw him descend into cunty autism but the nail in the coffin is this quote that he always uses when people ask to see his writing in these threads (because it's pretty good but it comes from an archived post from years ago back when warosu was up, someone else found that one out, he usually takes any written material from past critique threads but almost always this one):
>"Magnus realized, with a sort of laugh, that every joke he had recently heard had been told by himself, to himself, and at his own expense."
Anyway OP, you should really find something else to occupy your time if this is all you really have.

>> No.9867991

>>9867979
Fascinating.

>> No.9867999

>>9867883
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cdk2Fs2CP0

>> No.9868005

>>9867979
But creating these really elaborate threads on /lit/ could be seen as a form of literature as well.
Maybe OP can publish a collection someday.

ps Still remember this thread about disguising as a pizza delivery man to get his manuscript in, was pretty entertaining.

>> No.9868025

>>9867979

Damn I remember this guy. Nice autism on display in catching this. You're in good form today.

>>"Magnus realized, with a sort of laugh, that every joke he had recently heard had been told by himself, to himself, and at his own expense."
I got the most surreal deja vu from reading this line. I now remember that even back then I'd get that very same surreal feeling. It always came across as an existentially bleak inside joke that he always makes to himself.

>> No.9868027

>>9867979
Reminds me of the embarassing stories brit on /int/,

>> No.9868029

This is quality bait.

>> No.9868032

>>9867979
This sperglord? Hmmm...not convinced desu.

https://archived.moe/lit/thread/7608333/

>> No.9868044

>>9867979
I wonder who the real autist is?

>> No.9868046

>>9868044

The guy he is talking about. By far. He was pathological with his autism.

>> No.9868061

>>9867979
I always assume everybody is playing along in these threads, but then one of you bananas comes in and starts expostulating. Or are you anxious OP, preferring to explain the joke over being uncertain of its status? Hmm...

>> No.9868084

>>9868061
Did you not recognize the pasta or am I getting layered.

>> No.9868253

>>9867979
This is itself a pasta btw.

>> No.9868257

>>9868005
LINK PLEASE

>> No.9868262

>>9868029
Agreed. Top notch.

>> No.9868265

How many layers of irony is this thread on?

>> No.9868269

>>9868257
See
>>9868032

Just one of dozens, possible hundreds of threads this guy has started or posted in.

>> No.9868272

>>9868269
Pure comedy gold.

>> No.9868915

Post some more stuff birdman.

>> No.9868939

>>9867699
At least you got read, which is already huge; because most people get rejected without a reading.

Concept of the novel sounds really interesting. Anyone who mocks this is dumb as fuck and should not work in the publishing industry, since 1) the concept is good, 2) what makes the success of a book is the execution and not so much the concept.

The mails you posted don't look like significantly damaging to you. Pass.

>> No.9868949

>>9868032
I cant remember if i was in that thread or just saw caps of it. Legendary

>> No.9868954

>>9867889
t. Thomas Nagel

>> No.9869011
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This thread is pure pottery

>> No.9869034

>>9867837
I mean, what exactly did you expect OP, it's a 600 page book about a fucking bird. Maybe if it was a simple short story, but dammit man.

>> No.9869036

>>9867979
Have to confirm this shit, thanks for posting the pasta. The guy is actually completely fucking insane.

>> No.9869043

>>9869011
pic is what Discordianism essentially is

>> No.9869050

>>9869036
>completely fucking insane

Obviously not if he can communicate in a comprehensible way.

>> No.9869061

>>9867979
No, this isn't the same 100 post anon, he left a while ago. It's just someone imitating him. Stop re-posting this copypasta

>> No.9869105

Can anyone explain to me what's the actual point of pasta?
Like you just save some mediocre rant in a word document and then paste it and then F5 to see if anyone will respond to it?
Why? Why would you be interested to see a response to a thought that isn't even yours?

>> No.9869114

>>9869105
You get the same sort of dopamine hit from people responding to it if you post it even if you didn't write it.

>> No.9869172

>>9869105
>some mediocre rant
Pasta is usually quite original, noticeable and amusing, otherwise no one would bother saving it and posting it.

>Why would you be interested to see a response to a thought that isn't even yours?
It's a show. You post images that aren't yours, either, to get a response. You wear clothes that weren't made by you to project an image, etc.

>> No.9869185

>>9867699
Richard Brittain pls go

>> No.9869246

>>9869105
Never EVER underestimate the value of a (you) to a guy who has nothing else.

>> No.9869248

>>9867979
>>9868025
>>9868044
>>9869036
>>9869061
I'm not OP, but I'll say I've made a thread like the ones you describe with no knowledge that there were other people doing the same. For what it's worth, I didn't want to troll people, I had a legitimate point, and /lit/ insulted me, so I said 'fuck it', and started shitposting.

If /lit/ weren't so arrogant, this wouldn't happen. Grow up, guys.

>> No.9869253

>>9867699
>sue sue sue
Fucking americans are the worst

>> No.9869286

>>9867699
lol its kinda funny OP because my ww1 novella written entirely from the perspective of carrion birds is currently being bid on for over $300k

>> No.9869311

>>9869105
t. someone who doesn't have a (you) collection

>> No.9869563

>>9869034
If that bird were trans then they would have published it in a heartbeat

>> No.9869767

>>9867979
do you think he is the same guy who posts the "intellectually I'm all spooked out"

>> No.9869787

Wait is this the same autistic shitposter who started all the "moving to a cabin in Norway to write my book" threads?

>> No.9869817

>>9869105
It is morally wrong, you should always make yourself a fresh pasta

>> No.9870032

>>9869787
'Tis the very same fellow it seems.

>> No.9870128

>>9869563
The real twist is that it is a man identifying as a carrier pigeon.

>> No.9870136

>>9870032
I respect his dedication the same way I respect an autistic child who does nothing but build 10000 piece puzzles all day.

>> No.9870404

>>9867837
This seems like a standard rejection. You may need to work on your book. Also you should expect many rejections even if your book is great. Its a good premise though, seems too ambitious maybe? You ever read Silverwing? It's a pretty good book from a bat's perspective. You should read it for inspiration

>> No.9870417

>>9867885
>https://pastebin.com/1nrCG7dh
Why'd you remove it? I never got to see it, sounds good

>> No.9870529

>>9869105
This is now a pretty quality pasta

>> No.9870675

>>9867699
Can you turn it into a children's book? Sounds like something I would have bought at the scholastic book fair.

>> No.9870693

>>9869011
Damn that post is hilarious. I'm in tears.

>> No.9870749

>>9868044
could be any one of us

not me though, I'm spartacus not anonymous

>> No.9870758

>>9870675
I miss book faires

>> No.9870777

I would unironically purchase your book OP, sounds more interesting then most of the unoriginal garbage published today

>> No.9870779

Threaten to go public unless they publish your book, obviously. It can only end well.

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>>9867699
so basically you just wrote the plot to Valiant?

>> No.9871707

>>9869767
No, that copypasta was written by someone else. I've read almost of Memoir anon's copypastas and threads throughout the years and I can discern when it is him due to the style and tone he uses in his bait posts, and the similarities in the types of characters he likes to play. Another giveaway is that he uses the British spelling of words since he's british. He was the one who started the "Voice of YOUR generation" threads though. He hasn't posted at all since his goodbye thread back in April, everyone since then has just been imitators like in this thread, and they don't match to his genius.

>> No.9871824

>>9868029
One day later - this is great bait.

>> No.9872354

>>9871707
The "voice of YOUR generation" meme has been going on for years since Tao Lin became known here. It's not specific to one anon, autistic or otherwise.

>> No.9872433

>>9867863
Rabbits probably can't either but it didn't stop Watership Down becoming a classic.

>> No.9872543

>>9871707
wait he left? thats a shame I loved his threads. link to the goodbye thread?

>> No.9872548

>>9870782
This was my first thought when saw this thread the other day.
Only OP's book has "literally" Hitler and is long enough for several films or a tv series.
>>9870777
If it were novella length I'd consider buying it.
Not too keen on reading something Infinite Jest length written by a new kid.

>> No.9872747

>>9867699
Yeah I was gonna shit on you for re-writing that film Valiant but this sounds like a lot of fun. Can you send to another publisher? Not sure if you can sue them or not but don't be disheartened it sounds like you've wrote an interesting novel.

>> No.9872750

>>9872543
He posted a thread listing all his hoax characters and said he was soon joining a monastery in an attempt to resolve his mental health crisis.

>> No.9873012

>>9867699
Why would you be able to sue? And you wonder why they called you retarded?

Send it to some other publisher, and if no one wants it, put it online and see if it floats as an underground work. I promise to read a couple of chapters and give an honest opinion, and if it's any good, I'll read it in full.

>> No.9873025

>>9867837
You know, without being able to read your masterpiece, this is either a case of your novel's being objectively mediocre at best or it's just a publishing house's echo chamber where they turn into Beavis and Butthead just because they don't like the concept of your novel and ignore the content making anything they say worthless, prejudiced tripe.

>> No.9874002

>>9872354
Yeah it's been going on for years but Memoir anon was the one who started the meme though and ironically shilled all those terrible alt lit hacks not just tao Lin and mira.

>> No.9874255

>>9869105
B R A V O

>> No.9874300

I've got a huge bag full of (You)s here and I don't know what to do with them.

>> No.9874322

>>9871707
are YOU him?

>> No.9874337

>>9867979
Irish Stew Guy

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>>9867699
>written from the perspective of a carrier pigeon in World War 1
im fuckin dead you killed me you bastard

>> No.9874495

>>9867699
Anon, cut that shit. I'd laugh away most 500 pages novels. That shit is unprofessional though, blast them on media.

>> No.9874803

>>9872543
>>/lit/thread/S9400985

>> No.9874808

>can I sue someone for hurting my fee fees?
No, I'm sorry it happened, but no.

>> No.9874814

>>9874495
Threaten to blast them on media unless they publish it, with a cover with the author name larger than the title.

Which just happens to be
>White Feathers Falling
FOR FUCKS SAKE OP

>> No.9874844

>>9872750
>implying the monastery thing isn't his next ruse

>> No.9874874

>>9874322
Sadly no, I wish I knew he was though, all I really know for sure if that he was mostly likely a NEET and British. But anyway, I became obsessed with this guy a while back (during the Norwegian Cabin arc) and went through the archive trying to find all the threads and posts he had ever made. Honestly, I'm not really sure if he actually left for good, the whole Monastery bit could simply be just another Pessoan fracture of identity but I don't know he seemed quite sincere to me. There have been some good quality bait threads since he left though like this one: >>/lit/thread/S9454410 and also the one that was up today >>/lit/thread/S9872514#p9872520
These don't quite strike me as his style and while they're well crafted they seem more like people that were inspired by Memoir anon rather than original work of his own. Fun fact: he was also probably the one who started the trend of "genius posting" (pretending to be a literary genius to get (you)'s and he was also the one who posted these threads >>/lit/thread/S8759708 (I can tell because he reuses similar themes, one theme that he constantly returns to is virtual reality, if you recall the norwegian cabin guy's book he was writing was about virtual reality as well.) Anyway he goes by 100 post anon (due to his stated goal of trying to make the thread to get 100 posts) or also Memoir anon (since his most well known troll threads were the pizza memoir ones) or also Pessoa-chan since he's stated Pessoa as an influence. He's been around since at least 2013 and has been banned multiple times by the mods. Also if you didn't already know all of /lit/'s most famous copypastas were written by him like the Oxford graduate one, the will live a good life at your expense one, the name calling has no effect on the contemporary NEET one and so on.

>> No.9876078

>>9874874
Cuck

>> No.9876141

>>9867979
Oh christ that makes this whole fucking thing more of a masterpiece than it already was. Shit are you OP? Is this just gonna unravel further?

>> No.9876151

>>9876078
You ever seen a Cuckoopoint?

>> No.9876463

Sack up bitch and learn to write a good idea. Who the hell wants to read 600 page book about a damn pigeon.

>> No.9876542

>>9874874
>mfw shitposters on /lit/ have their own scholars

>> No.9876683
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9876683

I recommend this novella to anyone lurking. By the same dude who wrote Perfume.

The story is about a bank security guard who struggles to leave his apartment one day when he finds a pigeon roosting outside his door. He does eventually escape but has an existential meltdown which is hella awesome.

>> No.9876735

>>9876542
someone needs to make a wiki on him

>> No.9876745

Does anyone have the link to the pizza memoir thread? Excuse my newfaggotry

>> No.9876746

>>9876735
I used to have a file on all the tripfags with various information about their life. Foucault, Tallis, Butters, D&E even quentin before he was famous. Unfortunately that computer was destroyed in a flood.

>> No.9876748

>>9867889
t. Lao tzu

>> No.9876760

>>9876746
Not a flood of female orgasm fluid I guarantee.

>> No.9876767

Can someone please link every thread made b y the guy who has now apparently left? Please?

>> No.9876782

>>9876767
Here my favorite post of his: >>/lit/thread/S9774657#p9786648

>> No.9876785

>>9867837
These are women, op; their opinions don't matter. Of course they aren't interested in WWII, it's not a cheesy romance/dystopian novel

>> No.9876786

>>9876782
>linking an entire URL
You are the newfag.

>> No.9876909

>>9867863
Poot-too-weet

>> No.9876944

>>9876767
Memoir anon scholar here, sorry but I don't have my compilation with me right now, I'm on the go but if you want to search yourself feel free once you start connecting the dots and noticing the similar references he makes and his writing style it becomes much easier... I also just got lucky sometimes trawling through the archive. In his earlier work he would often "come clean" after the thread had reached 100 posts and say he was just trolling but in his later period he didn't, though people would often spam that warning copypasta that you see above. He has some very underrated posts that didnt get the attention they deserved at the time, one of my favorites is where he basically outlines his entire philosophy, of how he wanted to write for the people who couldnt relate, who were far too sensitive and couldn't fit in to society, the people on the margins and who strived to transcend the simulacrum and inanity of modernity, those who were all alone yet had aspirations of genius... Though of course he says this in much more florid language and of course he's playing a character as he does in all of his posts, but I feel like in that post we truly get an insight into his actual motives for posting on this board year after year and getting banned over and over again and getting no recognition expect for an immense amount of (you)'s when he is clearly someone with great potential, I suspect that in real life just as in all of his heteronyms he was someone who has much too sensitive and observant for modern life, a flaneur and man of letters who would have fit in much better 100 years ago, which is probably one of the factors that led him to become suicidal and seek peace in a monastery. But of course it's impossible to discern exactly the real and the fake in his posts especially when Memoir anon is such a delightful satirist and character artist, and the way he would pitch perfectly mock many of the different personalities that you see on /lit/ and in the contemporary literature (specifically "alt-lit" scene.) But at the core of all his identities I find a real sincere heart and pain underneath, something quite tender that you can tell is based off of first-hand experience and exaggerations of real qualities that he had (the delusions of grandeur specifically, which was a common theme in all of his characters and helped establish that theme within the /lit/ collective consciousness, all similar characters that you see on here are in a way paying tribute to his ground-breaking work in this field, whether they know it or not), but through all his layers of artifice paradoxically there was a real core of authenticity, similar in a way to Breece Pancake who he posted a picture of in his goodbye thread, who was known for pretending to be poor when he actually wasn't, and in his short stories wrote heart-felt descriptions of rural life... This, and many other reasons is why I consider him to be the greatest writer this board has ever seen.

>> No.9876945

>>9876944
Thankyou kindly anon.

>> No.9876958

>>9876944
Thanks Anon

>> No.9876965

>>9876945
No problem wish I could help, I'm posting this from my phone but I have an archive of all his posts at my home computer (only the ones I could find though obviously many of his posts are lost and forgotten in the archive and deleted threads like tears in the rain)

>> No.9876972

>>9876944
>talking about myself again

>> No.9876975

>>9876972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVvyRZvizug

>> No.9877023

>ITT birds and conspiracy

>> No.9877087

>>9876972
No just an autist (literal not meme), with too much time on my hands, I wish I was as talented as Pessoa-chan

>> No.9877101

>>9877087
Pessoa-chan has a great ring to it. If Pessoa were alive today I guarantee he would be shitposting on /lit/ in his spare time. The guy wrote thousands of unironic horoscopes in his spare time when he was alive, so the autistic intensity is obviously evident.

>> No.9877107

>>9876944
you are him.

>> No.9877125

4chan is really beautiful sometimes

>> No.9877170

>>9877101
Yeah, Pessoa's definitely someone who would have been a huge shitposter. Might be fun to compile a list of old authors and whether they would post here or not if they were alive today.
>>9877107
Nope, I'm American for one and like I said I'm just a rando autist who gets obsessed with internet people a lot and tries to find out everything about them. Out of all the "internet geniuses" I've come across however Pessoa-chan is probably top 5 most interesting imo. Maybe I should have said but of course a lot of what I've written is speculation, I've never spoken to this guy personally (he's replied to me in one of his bait threads before though), its extremely obvious that it's the same guy who's written all the copypastas and all the troll threads, I mean he's admitted it multiple times and not just in his goodbye post, also the consistency of writing style is very noticeable. I mean, he even reuses the exact same scenarios and lines over and over again like the virtual reality thing. Pessoa is a great comparison to make because this guy clearly had a pathological need to constantly create new identities and create bizarre scenarios and probably got addicted to the all the (you)'s and attention. He was also clearly a big literature fan too since he referenced obscure authors like Breece J'D Pancake, Edouard Leve, Michelstaedter, and others and he knew a lot about contemporary literature. In order to ever be sure about his motives he would have to come himself and tell them, but that's highly unlikely since the whole point of his corpus is that he's constantly playing a different character, its even likely that the Goodbye thread he posted is just another character of his, just in a meta-ironic way. Who knows. He could be laughing at us all right now, he could be dead, or he could actually be at the Buckfast Abbey like he claims to be if anyone is in England and wants to check lol.

>> No.9877175

>>9876760
the female orgasm doesn't exist. it's a myth invented by feminists in the 60's to spread cultural marxism.

think about it from an evolutionary point of view, it serves no purpose. it would be like putting and alarm on my trashcan that sounds when i deposit my loads of trash in there.

>> No.9877183

>>9877175
The female orgasm does exist. It gives women a reason to let sweaty autistic monkeyboys to penetrate them dozens of time within the space of a few minutes. If it didn't exist women would just ask their spouse to cum in a glass and then lay upside down and pour that glass inside their gaping vagina in order to become pregnant.

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>>9877183
you've never actually seen a vagina have you?

>> No.9877190

>>9877175
The japanese pornographic recordings on my computer say otherwise.

>> No.9877191

>>9877170
I presume the Buckfast Abbey thing is a joke given that they make Buckfast; a cheap caffeinated wine that is something of a meme in England and Scotland.

>> No.9877195

>>9877190
>porn is real
don't believe japanese anon, they're crafty tricksters, remember pearl harbor?

>> No.9877201

>>9877191
>>9877170
Hold on. What Buckfast Abbey claim? Warousu says you're the first person to ever mention the place on /lit/, ever.

>> No.9877210

>>9877201
we have found him out.

>> No.9877221

>>9877191
Hmm now that I think about it was another poster who replied and said it was Buckfast, it wasnt in the OP at all. Also it looks Buckfast is a Benedectine monastery not a Trappist Monastery like he said he was going to in the OP. I'm like 90% sure he's from England because even though a lot of the characters he would play were American he would generally use British spelling however he would use "mommy" instead of "mummy" which does muddle things though this could be for comedic value. I'm not quite sure to be honest his humor struck me as quite British in nature, I would eat my shoe if he was American.

>> No.9877229

>>9877201
>>9877210
Not that guy or the OP or the pessoa autist but someone mentions buckfast abbey in the farewell thread

>>/lit/thread/S9400985#p9401067

probably someone else just trucking around tho

>> No.9877235

>>9877221 Cont.
I googled and perhaps he's at the St Bernard on Leicester? We just have too many assumptions to really know if he's telling the truth. I just hope he's alright, and he didn't kill himself.

>> No.9877239

>>9877235
I doubt he's doing any such thing.

>> No.9877254

>>9877235
*St Bernard Abbey. If he did actually go to the monastery I'd bet 100 dollars that's the one he's at, its the only active Trappist Monastery in England proper, the other 2 are in Scotland and Wales.

>> No.9877256

>>9877229
true, it is mentioned in that fake goodbye thread.

>> No.9877282

>>9869011
Sounds like schizophrenia t.b.h.

>> No.9877811

>>9876944
This is why I come here.
Shitposting exegesis par excellence.

>> No.9878151

>>9867699
>>9867719

>I submitted my novel (620 pages) written from the perspective of a carrier pigeon
kek

>> No.9879099

>>9867863
Never read Jack London's book, Call of the Wild?

>> No.9880495

>>9867699
I suppose the idea isn't any dafter than warhorse which I liked a lot but you'd need to ask a lawyer instead of 4chan 2bh, how the fuck would we know?

>> No.9880506

>>9867719
Nigger a dog would fucking wreck a pigeon, get the world's gayest dog vs the world's baddest fucking pigeon and the pigeon is toast. Apart from that I'd give it a read but it sounds a bit long.

>> No.9880522

>>9867837
We love you OP, and White Feathers Falling is a decent name and concept, they made warhorse into a film and play. They all laughed at Christopher Columbus

>> No.9880536

>>9867699
hahahahahah holy shit I am DYING

>> No.9880553

>>9880522
when he said the world was round

>> No.9880559

Revamp the concept and make it about a soldier stuck on the trenches thinking about a carrier pigeon making its way on World War I asn an allegory for whatever

Pay me money.

>> No.9880640

>>9880559
A soldier having an ultravivid extended daydream about a pigeon in a war is a far worse idea than a book from the perspective of a pigeon.

>> No.9880660

>>9867699
pls post excerpts

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>>9867719
there was also Mr. Revere and I

>> No.9880883

>>9867895
it was adapted from a popular novel, btw

>> No.9880981

>>9877170
>>9877170

I'm not willing to go through the archive and go looking for them: could you assemble all the threads you can find? I'm actually really interested in this guy (and maybe the other 'internet geniuses' you say he is in the top 5 of). I find it really enjoyable to think about.

>> No.9882554

>>9867699
kek

>> No.9882644

>>9880883
>>9867895

I was named after that fucking bird, not read it although i have a copy somewhere

>> No.9883018

>>9867979
Fuck off his trolling is genius

>> No.9884409

>>9882644
damn, that's crazy, Jonathan. I knew it because my camp-for-teens counselor read it to us, lol. seemed really deep at the time, but I barely remember it now. I'd heard there was a movie made about it but never saw it and have no interest in clicking the other anon's link, either. I heard the movie was notably terrible.

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>>9876944
>his later period

>> No.9884717

>>9884409
i think my dad read it when he was in prison or some shit and thought it was deep (probably the only book he's read in his life tho), there's loads of pictures of seagulls in the book like in case you don't know what a seagull looks like or somethin. also it's weird af seeing my name on 4chan

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>>9884717
yeah, I figured it would be and I intentionally addressed you as Jonathan mindful of how strange that must make you feel. I've done it again, in fact. What fun!

>> No.9884963

>>9867831

Being sued, it going to trial, and then LOSING BECAUSE YOU ARE ACTUALLY IN THE WRONG, is much, much, more devastating to image and reputation.

>> No.9885019

>>9884947
cheeky cunt, steve

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>I submitted my novel (620 pages) written from the perspective of a carrier pigeon in World War 1 to a well-known literary agency

>> No.9885101

>>9867699
You need to demonstrate concretely how it negatively effected your potential income

>> No.9885132

>>9885101
Same guy

OP, if you have no history of mental disorder I suggest staging a suicide attempt and then suing them