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9853690 No.9853690[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Remember when Wikipedia had a "Cultural Marxism" article, but then in 2014 the Wikipedia mods buried it?

>> No.9853701

>>9853690
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories#Cultural_Marxism

>> No.9853705

>>9853690
that's cause cultural marxism isn't a thing

>> No.9853717

>>9853690
Its listed under conspiracy theories >>9853701 and provides links to the Frankfurt School as well as others who believe in the rumored cultural marxism.
You can't give an article to every loosely connected conspiracy theory. The larger ones get summary articles like the 9/11 theories and the JFK assassination theories.

>> No.9853738

Wikipedia editorial squabbles over ideological issues are actually some of the most enlightening experiences you can have regarding what life under an authoritarian society, governed by a semi-benign all-encompassing political party, would be like.

Almost all problems are ultimately resolved through nepotism, through the clout of The Guy Who Knows The Guy Who Knows The Guy Who Can Effect Actual Resolutions. And that ultimate guy always has this smug ":o) Doesn't it suck for you that I'm a Three-Star Chief Commissar of Edits and you aren't? ~:-^)"

There's always a tiny, insignificant minority of people who are actual human beings, defending some actual issue like free speech, and they are always completely fucking drowned in the other two major species of party bureaucracy:
#1: The "I know The Charter of Rules better than anyone else! Enabling casuistry, not the spirit of the law, is why the law exists!"
#2: The "I will lick the boots of any Three-Star Chief Commissar of Edits I can find, because my degenerate sub-type of grovelling slave is dysgenically selected for in this dystopian society"

If you really get immersed in one of these things, read through its motions, you can see why a single-party system inevitably chokes out civic participation and produces disenfranchised rebels. It systematically rewards and cultivates the worst members of the community.

>> No.9853750

>>9853690
because cultural Marxism is a buzzword. It's an #HotTake of postmodernism theory pretending that's it unified doctrine (it's not, Derrida thought the Frankfurt School was a joke because they were too totalizing and that they misinterpreted Hollywood as cultural industry and not a product of industrial culture) and the original article also worked in non-verified evidence about Frankfurt School "collaborating" with Soviet Leninists (Adorno considered a dictatorship of the proleteriat "aristocracy for the urban bourgeoisie" in Minima Moralia) so yes it didn't deserve its own page on a number of grounds.

The theorists themselves were individually quite subversive, but to pretend that they actually collaborated on broader political-social schemes is misunderstanding how most were limited by their own ego and vanity. They atomized themselves literally to death (in Adornos case especially)

>> No.9853753

>>9853738
This is why the "Talk" section of Wikipedia articles is sometimes more enlightening than the actual text of the article in question. Its a nonstop debate over phrasing, inclusion, and whether or not so-and-so issue deserves a link or a mention. It results in a majority rule that can often silence minority opinions that are factually correct.
Not talking about the Cultural Marxism theory, talking about ideological issues in general.

>> No.9853758

>>9853705
That's right, goyim.

>> No.9853763

>>9853758
>look ma I'm being i r o n i c

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>>9853758
>tfw /lit/ says intelligent things but immediately follows them up with a sarcastic buzzword to be sure you know they're actually idiots

>> No.9854093

>>9853690
If you went to college before 2011 you'd have learned about cultural marxism as a part of critical theory. Pretty funny that in 6 years people believe it never existed in the first place.

>> No.9854103

>>9854093
nah not that cultural marxism, the conspiracy theory where white nationalists think the frankfurt school was a jewish cabal that aimed at destroying "western values." even though if you actually read them they are social conservatives by today's standard.

>> No.9854106

>>9853690
so what would they need to recognize it as not a conspiracy theory? im just curious

>> No.9854114

>>9853690
N O T
L I T E R A T U R E

pol mouthbreathers pls leave

>> No.9854116

>>9853690
There used to be an "Incel" article too but it disappeared somewhere around the time of Elliot Rodger.

>> No.9854126

>>9854103
Anon that cultural marxism has been memory holed. It doesn't exist now. All it was and ever will be is a tea party alt-right conspiracy theory.

>> No.9854130

>>9853690
I member:
https://archive.is/YzkIS

>> No.9854137

>>9854126
it very much does exist now. memerson is most notably perpetuating it atm with his "neo-marxist" dogwhistle.

>> No.9854157

>>9853690
Same with 'creeping fascism'

>> No.9854158

>>9853753
Yes this is so true. When introducing myself to "controversial" topics on Wikipedia I always read the talk page, and check out the edit and revision history, first.

>> No.9854163

I dont know what does Marx have in common with the postmodern SJW....

>> No.9854167

>>9854157
Yeah, because you cucks can't even write an article without sounding like brainlets:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3f6rrh/thought_policing_wikipedia_article_named_creeping/ctltgzh/

>> No.9854169

Note all the jewish damage control itt. There's no conspiracy about it, the Frankfurt School was comprised of jews who realized that the goyim would always revolt against jewish behavior through racial nationalist means like they did in Germany so jews should work to break up their families, destroy their sense of racial solidarity, and call any white man who expressed nationalist sentiments a deranged authoritarian.

This was also so overt and well-documented that to try and call it a conspiracy theory is absurd and representative of how jews will lie about the blatantly obvious to prevent people from realizing that they are an alien class of lunatics who hate us, actively oppose us, and must be removed from our societies.

>> No.9854170

>>9854167
>ebaumsworld.com

>> No.9854172

>>9854137
oh wow you think I learned the alt-right conspiracy theory version years before the alt-right even existed. That's priceless.

>> No.9854176

>>9854169
Jewish false-flag. Note the lack of conviction in the argument

>> No.9854186

>>9854176
Lack of conviction? Who are you trying to fool, Schlomo?

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9854194

I wish there actually was a conspiracy to undermine western society, as opposed to just people writing books.

>> No.9854202

>>9854186
See there's no conviction in you saying that. It's just a stock phrase. You can't commit to saying something truly anti-semitic

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remember when /lit/ used to be /lit/ related

>> No.9854227

>>9854202
>anti-semitic
I repeat: who are you trying to fool here, Shlomo?

>>9854219
Too much truth about jews itt apparently, got to derail it fast with porn!

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>> No.9854248

Leftist censorship in action.

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>>9854227
>Too much truth about jews itt apparently, got to derail it fast with porn!

>> No.9854254

>>9854251
Jews are very sick people.

>> No.9854256

Why is everyone in the world under some fantasy that the world can be harmonious and everyone is equal? It's the biggest bullshit I have ever heard and imo its nothing more than a mask to try to gain power for their own group/people.

>> No.9854258

Cultural Marxism was actually about preserving culture, because capitalism destroys it.

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>>9854248
not /lit/ related. go back to your safe place

>> No.9854263

>>9854244
>>9854261
>someone somewhere is turned on by this

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>> No.9854266

Pretty obvious how C E R T A I N people try to derail this thread. Gee, wonder why.

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>> No.9854270

>>9854266
Pretty obvious how C E R T A I N people made this non /lit/-related thread in the first place.

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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/.

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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/

>> No.9854276

>>9854270
>wikipedia authors removing content relevant to philosophie and lit
>not lit related
Yeah, I am sure this has nothing to do with you political views.

>> No.9854278

This is the jewish mental sickness in action, white folks. See it, understand it, and fight it, and let's deport this problem back to the desert.

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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics go to /pol/.

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>>9854272
You wont get away with this infringement of fur speech you murrty (((jew)))! PRESIDENT Trump is warming up the gas chambers as we speak >:3

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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories. poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/.

>> No.9854283

I'm not sure what's more pathetic. Having so much cuck porn for your own pleasure or getting paid for distriobuting it on a literatue board. Such is the life of anon.

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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol

>> No.9854288

>>9854283
We're talking about jews here.

>> No.9854290

>>9854276
>hurrr everything is tangentially related to literature
Go jerk off to some more cuck porn, that's what made you this way in the first place.

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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. if you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/.

>> No.9854294

>>9853690
Morpheus.. easy on the redpills

>> No.9854299

>>9854290
>hur dur everything I don't like isn't /lit/
How about a nice book burning, right? That wasn't /lit/ as well. When will authoritarians learn.

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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/,

>> No.9854308

>>9854290
"The Jew Cries Out in Pain as He Strikes You."

>> No.9854309

>>9854299
I don't know if you're just intentionally disingenuous or stupid. It comes to the same.

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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction) short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/

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Thats right brothers! The dirty jews are just desperate cause were on to them! White workers of the world unite against jews and commies! Our helicopters of justice will teach them twice to censor here!

>> No.9854317

>>9854309
You people will really never learn.

>> No.9854320 [DELETED] 

/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry. creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/.

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lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry. creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/

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>> No.9854330

Here is the whole post about this C O I N C I D E N C E: https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2occ7m/wikipedias_cultural_marxism_article_now_redirects/

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lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry. creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/, if you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/

>> No.9854334

>>9854330
>reddit

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>>9854325

Stop oppressing my fREEEEEEEEEE speech jew normie!

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/Lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry. creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/, if you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/

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>>9854330
>Reddit

>> No.9854345

>>9854335
(you)

>> No.9854349

>>9853690
It's because no one calls themselves a cultural Marxist; it's a derogatory term used by alt-rightists and decidedly rightist conspiracy theorists to describe viewpoints they don't like. If an article were to be made about it, it would have to be written in a removed fashion --- "cultural marxism is a word used by rightist, particularly alt-rightist, commentators to describe political correctness and certain liberal and globalist ideologies they see as permeating culture"; this would be a very useless and overly specific article to have on its own, one devoted to a term used only by a fringe group, and this term not having much cultural popularity or intellectual nuance behind it.

If they were to talk about cultural marxism as an objective thing, without mentioning it's just a term used by alt-right critics and no one ever actually calls themselves a cultural marxist, there are no journals explicitly devoted to cultural marxism, liberal thinkers don't use it sincerely, etc., this would itself be taking a side when wikipedia is supposed to be neutral.

Moreover, Wikipedia has pages devoted to the ideas of "political correctness" and "social justice warrior", both of which are unconspiratorial, unbiased, and encompass in their entirety everything non-conspiratorial, that's not just mere unfounded conjecture about the phrase "cultural Marxism" --- which again has become a vague term encompassing everything alt-rightists don't like.

tl;dr fuck you

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Lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry. creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/, if you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/.

>> No.9854352

What happened here?

>> No.9854355
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9854355

>mfw cuckspamming anon keeps the thread on the first page spreading the message he tried to burry

>> No.9854358

>Desperate buttblasted Faggot spams thread with cuck porn in order to take attention away from Cultural Marxism
Even that's cultural Marxism, subverting the natural order: marriage? No! Fuck a black guy! Marriage happens for a reason, it's been constructive in our societies, so of course certain people want to deconstruct and subvert that. "Marriage is a spook" they say

>> No.9854359

>>9854352
Shareblue censorship.

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Lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry. creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/, if you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. InShaAllah

>> No.9854362

>>9854359
It's perfect. We talk about CM and there they come bring the perfect example on their behaviour.

>> No.9854364

>>9854352
A jew is trying to destroy a thread about jewish subversion of white countries through cultural Marxism.

>> No.9854368

>>9854333
So why are you posting porn except to distract and derail you fucking kike?! Porn goes in >>/gif/ discussion goes here.
The censorship of discussion of a movement in literary theory is absolutely relevant to /lit.

If you had a point to make, you'd have made it by now.

>> No.9854371

>>9854349
>things I read on wikipedia prove to me that wikipedia is right
wow really tickles the brain box

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>>9854334
>>9854342
>implying reddit is a bad thing
There is nothing wrong with a well thought out, well cited and well crafted post from Reddit. Yeah, its full of libcucks and commies who deserve nothing short of a helichopper ride but there are red pilled based boards like the_donald that were instrumental in bringing about PRESIDENT TRUMP who will remove (((them))) and secure America!

>> No.9854377

>>9854373
Try harder.

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>>9854355
>mfw cuckspamming anon has seen the error of his ways and ceased to spread his love making gifs

>> No.9854407

>>9854405
He just got banned