/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.9807712]

>he didn't go to Oxbridge or top 3 ivy league university
>he thinks reading books at home or on a commute compare to reading the books in an intellectually edifying environment where you have your critiques torn to shreds by world class academics
>he thinks he can have worthwhile career opportunities when committees, networking opportunities, public respect OVERWHELMINGLY goes towards alumni of the top few institutions

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Keep reading Seneca on the conmute (LMAO) surrounded by single mothers and street sweepers. I'm sure it's really enlightening. And I'm sure your low prestige wagecuck job surrounded by third tier graduates and career plodders is so much more "real and fulfilling" than working in Silicon Valley / Wall Street / City of London / top universities.

[Anonymous No.9807716]

>>9807712
Do you go to a top 3 university?

[Anonymous No.9807722]

>>9807712
>prestige

[Anonymous No.9807724]

why do I need to work in finance or tech? both are boring.

[Anonymous No.9807733]

>>9807712
>>9807712
>graduate from state school, low tier
>get job in administration and marketing
>bear sterns hits
>interview tons of lawyers and mbas with ivy credentials
>"sorry, you are overqualified"
>occasionally told to hire some schmuck by my boss because he has a good voice
>put him on the phones doing cold calls
>walks out after a week with no commission and 300 bucks.

[Anonymous No.9807734]

Does /lit/ count as an intellectually edifying environment where you have your critiques torn to shreds by world class academics?

[Anonymous No.9807737]

>>9807724
Because those two are amongst the best fields to make your boss richer by working as an officedrone.

[Anonymous No.9807738]

>>9807712
>(((Elite))) education

Yeah no thanks Schlomo

[Anonymous No.9807740]

>muh career opportunities
>falling for the career meme

Enjoy being a slightly better compensated wagecuck

[Anonymous No.9807741]

>>9807734
Given the state of Academia today, yeah

[Anonymous No.9807742]

>go to unranked state school
>declare for STEM
>graduate with EE degree
>get job 2 months after graduating making $100K right out the gate

litrally loling at this thread, tell me more about the ivy league meme

[Anonymous No.9807743]

>>9807737
ugh, that sounds even more boring!

[Anonymous No.9807748]

>>9807712
>he's a chantard

[Anonymous No.9807750]

>tfw you will never make fun of lower class plebs with your fellow Etonians

[Anonymous No.9807751]

Wer immer strebend sich bemüht...

[Anonymous No.9807758]

>>9807712
>tfw poor
>tfw will always be poor
>one chance at life
>poor
Fuck you, OP.

[Anonymous No.9807767]

This is true to some degree.

I work in London and the lives of the privately educated people I meet (£35,000 a year schools) are surreal to me.

They need never fear unemployment. If they're unmarried / single they can easily be set up with someone from their own background. They have friends who are well-known actors, top businessmen, and other high-paying and high-prestige jobs.

It's contributed to my conviction that human society is largely a disgusting and very rigged system and that love is just a codeword for a socio-economic sorting ritual.

I fell for a posh Oxbridge graduate who seemed to be interested in me for a while. Who did she end up with? A wealthy Jew who has lived and will continue to live life on Easy Mode.

[Anonymous No.9807768]

>go to top tier university then top tier law school
>get paid shit loads of money to exploit poorfags
>get any desperate 25+ pussy I want
p comfy :3

[Anonymous No.9807770]

Is working for these elite institutions really fulfilling? Working like a monkey as a junior analyst for some bank at the city sounds real nice. And it's not like they look really happy when they hit 50. So can anyone redpill me on this meme? I might be mocking them because I'm some random loser who's struggling to accept that he's a failure.

[Anonymous No.9807776]

>>9807712
>implying anyone cares about your undergrad
>implying it's not grad school that matters
Found the dilettante.

[Anonymous No.9807777]

>>9807767
>I fell for a posh Oxbridge graduate who seemed to be interested in me for a while. Who did she end up with? A wealthy Jew

I wonder why. ur not exactly adjusted anon

[Anonymous No.9807778]

>>9807712
Daily reminder even Stanford only cost 18000$ per 3 years of tuition in the 1980ies.

Shit got too competitive to allow space for genius.

The age of ivy is over. The age of the autodidacts has come.

[Anonymous No.9807779]

>>9807712
I literally can't express how much better my life has been since I attended Oxford. I went to a state school and gradually became the stereotypical moody, withdrawn sensitive type who both despises the quality of his immediate culture and feels a weird pride for having been raised in a sort of anti-intellectual and brutal environment. I was all set to take my Russell Group humanities BA and spend my life working as an anonymous, insecure wageslave forever thankful of being offered a job and forever too insecure to pursue my creative ambitions. The chip on my shoulder had become something of a wedge, and I felt too out of place regardless of my environment, too resentful and bitter to even attempt to make it in the artistic world. Then I finally applied for Oxford and got in to study an English MA, with reassurance that should I work hard enough a career in academia or within one of Oxford's affiliated companies would be almost guaranteed. I turned up as apprehensive as usual, and the first few days were spent regretting my decision and desperately feigning a cultured personality. But then I realized that the people there were just interesting and that the snobbery and exclusivity I had anticipated was just a myth borne out of my working class upbringing. I've since graduated, having spend the year dining in grand halls with groups of interesting people, dating several girls (one of whom, a petite Russian whose family traces back to the aristocracy, is now my fiancee). I work four days a week at a publishing company and earn £38k a year. I regularly meet up with friends from my college and visit Oxford for nights out and for meetings with my professors. The Martin Eden-esque novel I have been writing for two years has been selected for publication at a major British publishing house and, honestly, I could not have imagined a few years ago how great life could be. I come on /lit/ and see how pathetic you all are and just shake my head and chuckle. If I saw you guys on the street I would of course throw you a penny or discuss Bukowski or whatever "realist" writers you enjoy, but ultimately I would be able to tell within ten seconds if you're an Oxbridge grad and would dismiss you as a potential source of good company if you are not. I never thought I'd know what it was like to be objectively better than somebody else, for the value of my existence to be superior to the value of a stranger's, but now I do and I've never been happier. People are awed by power and prestige. All I need to do is mention the university I attended (if only for a year) and they immediately begin to hunch and look at their feet because they know they are in the presence of greatness.

[Anonymous No.9807782]

>>9807768
>get any desperate 25+ pussy I want

Ew, enjoy your used up roasties

[Anonymous No.9807784]

>>9807737
Finance isn't even good for that.

I feel sorry for Finance grads because they arguably worked harder for their degree than I did, but only get burn-out jobs, if any jobs at all.

Engineering is where it is at if you want to earn money for early retirement and come home to do some comfy reading.

[Anonymous No.9807785]

>>9807776
>He thinks that young upper-class kids bother with grad school like those nerds do

[Anonymous No.9807787]

>>9807784
Theres nothing wrong with an MBA tbqh.
If you go to an /elite/ school it's a super well paying and rewarding field.

[Anonymous No.9807788]

>>9807778
Has returned my friend. We have always been what the world turned on

[Anonymous No.9807795]

>>9807777
Of course I'm not, far from it. But the fact is this one example is by no means an outlier, it's entirely the normal thing to do for people from this background.

They go to school with each other.
They go to university with each other.
They work with each other.
They form "networks" with each other.
They breed with each other.

And thus the cycle is perpetuated. It's quite fitting really, as their behavior is typical of the way Jews behave.

[Anonymous No.9807796]

>>9807767
It has been like that since the dawn of time, 'love' is just a Hollywood fake thing that they tell you for profit. Men are providers and women will flock to the better ones.

[Anonymous No.9807797]

>>9807784
engineering is boring

[Anonymous No.9807798]

>>9807787
You're mistaking correlation with causation. The fact the sort of priviledged urchins that go to ivy league MBA schools do well doesn't mean it has anything to do with the spooky horseshit they're thought

[Anonymous No.9807804]

>>9807795
wowe so bitter. r u trying to be forever alone? or just a savant?

[Anonymous No.9807806]

>>9807767
This is actually good. This creates an upper class of top genetics wealthy Überhumans and a lower class of shit genetics low-wealth subhumans.

In reality this socio-economic sorting doesn't work at all as well as you described. In reality most people will never find the correct match and their children, if they will ahve any, will be a bit messier in their heads than the previous generation. Maybe the system would work if divorce was less encouraged by society and lawmaker.

[Anonymous No.9807811]

>>9807712
You can't even get into the best ivy league schools these days unless your parents went there, you're black/latino, or you're some kind of one in a million genius. You can get perfect grades in high school, ace the SAT/ACT, have well-rounded curriculars, and still get rejected from Harvard or Yale.

[Anonymous No.9807820]

>>9807797
I realized this as well, but a job is a job. If you work in a field that you love, for example concept artist for some video game studio, you'll end up hating your hobby.

Better work on some boring engineering, take pride that you are employed because of your brain alone, take the money home and use the relative freedom a decent job gives you to enjoy your hobbies and studies without guilt.

[Anonymous No.9807821]

>>9807804
Whether or not I'm alone for life is beside the point. If I am, I am. The point is that British society is something we should wet our pants for whenever we have the opportunity to is entirely absurd. Both the Jews and those privately educated at top schools (the Anglo Jews) have rigged this society in their favour. I have worked intimately with dozens of these people, and though their politics may vary to degrees, the fact is they are entirely ignorant (willingly or otherwise) to the reality of British life as it is lived by the majority of people. One of the reasons I admire Adolf Hitler as much as I do is that he was almost obsessive about the issue of tearing down the pretensions and class barriers in Germany that allowed the degenerate, sated upper class to live in luxury while those of Adolf's background suffered in poverty and misery.

[Anonymous No.9807823]

>>9807820
>If you work in a field that you love you'll end up hating your hobby.

that's absurd.

[Anonymous No.9807825]

>>9807806
Again, I agree to an extent in the sense that I am an elitist in the style of John Stuart Mill etc. However, if you actually spent extended periods of time with these people you'd realize that style, virtue and distinction are by no means inherited traits for the most part. I'm talking about people who did poorly in their overpriced schools, did poorly in the university they barely earned the grades to enter, fucked around for a while after graduating yet by the age of 27 are in a job that will allow them to earn twice the national average wage by the age of 35. They are loud, dim-witted, pretentious, close-minded, hypocritical, ill-mannered and much more yet they are allowed to succeed despite these things due to their upbringing and family background.

[Anonymous No.9807826]

>>9807821
lol a tru savant. u dont even know what the point is anymore

[Anonymous No.9807831]

>>9807821
hm!

[Anonymous No.9807832]

>>9807831
Wtf I love UC Berkely now!

[Anonymous No.9807835]

>>9807831
I agree about Jews. Only recently have my eyes truly been opened to the question. And I have reached the conclusion that the Jews are a tribe of nepotistic rats who frankly deserve much of the so-called oppression they have suffered throughout history.

[Anonymous No.9807836]

>>9807785
>Born rich, guaranteed to be rich
>Never does anything too hard
Really pickles my dickle

[Anonymous No.9807839]

>>9807820
Really? Everyone hates some aspects of their job, no matter who much they like it, but I know people who are still very passionate about their careers, especially those with artistic/academic jobs. Having a boring 40 to 60 hour job a week leaves you exhausted after a couple of years and drains you of your energy. I understand your point, but do you really think you can devote yourself to your studies when you arrive home at 6pm, you're tired, and must go to bed early for work tomorrow? Maybe you could, but as a low-energy person, I sure as hell couldn't. My shitty part-time job exhausts me mentally enough. I want a job with at least a minimum of mental stimulation because I think that spending the majority of my day waiting to go home is a miserable existence.

[Anonymous No.9807840]

>>9807835
It isn't merely a coincidence that they have been hated and persecuted in nearly every foreign society they've ever existed in.

[Anonymous No.9807842]

>>9807839
You're entirely correct and the other Anon is another fucking retard who posts shit like this all the time on /lit/

The fact is barely any writers of renown have written anything worthwhile while working a full-time job, not least one they enjoyed.

[Anonymous No.9807845]

>>9807839
just don't work so hard then. srsly, ppl think being semi-retired or neet would be so great but they'll end up jus wasting time. life's not that hard. earn enough to live and have fun. jeez

[Anonymous No.9807846]

>>9807840
I agree. They truly are a despicable race of easily offended, virtueless parasites whose sole aim, it seems, is to promote degeneracy and acquire as much power and wealth as they can before their host country remembers its national identity and kicks them out.

[Anonymous No.9807848]

>>9807842
How does one even become a full-time writer? There are no guarantees you get any money from it,except if you already published something. The only way is to work a well-paying job so you can save up for early retirement and work on your writing skills when you get home.

There is no other way. Don't tell me journalism prepares for writing. Journalists become writers despite their job.

[Anonymous No.9807850]

>>9807712
Eh, I can't say I care much about the prestige of attending some specific college. Most all of my professors were Ivy and MIT honor grads anyway.

That said, if I could have attended anywhere it would have been Yale for no other reason than the university's architecture.

[Anonymous No.9807852]

>>9807846
>before their host country remembers its national identity and kicks them out.

Or failing that, as it did in Rome and Byzantium, it collapses

[Anonymous No.9807853]

>>9807846

[Anonymous No.9807854]

>>9807848
You get born to the upper class so you don't have to work and can work on your craft. Like most writers in history

[Anonymous No.9807855]

While I do know that these institutions transform even the greatest young people into the scum of the earth, I am still incredibly jealous of those that attend them.

I think about it so frequently that it borders on obsession.

[Anonymous No.9807856]

>>9807842
>The fact is barely any writers of renown have written anything worthwhile while working a full-time job, not least one they enjoyed.

nearly all writers have had daytime gigs. from carlyle to goethe to dfw.

[Anonymous No.9807858]

>>9807779
>oup humanities BA and spend my life working as an anonymous, insecure wageslave forever thankful of being offered a job and forever too insecure to pursue my creative ambitions. The chip on my shoulder had become something of a wedge, and I felt too out of place regardless of my environment, too resentful and bitter to even attempt to make it in the artistic world. Then I finally applied for Oxford and got in to study an English MA, with reassurance that should I work hard enough a career in academia or within one of Oxford's affiliated companies would be almost guaranteed. I turned up as apprehensive as usual, and the first few days were spent regretting my decision and desperately feigning a cultured personality. But then I realized that the people there were just interesting and that the snobbery and exclusivity I had anticipated was just a myth borne out of my working class upbringing. I've since graduated, having spend the year dining in grand halls with groups of interesting people, dating several girls (one of whom, a petite Russian whose family traces back to the aristocracy, is now my fiancee). I work four days a week at a publishing company and earn £38k a year. I regularly meet up with friends from my college and visit Oxford for nights out and for meetings with my professors. The Martin Eden-esque novel I have been writing for two years has been selected for publication at a major British publishing house and, honestly, I could not have imagined a few years ago how great life could be. I come on /lit/ and see how pathetic you all are and just shake my head and chuckle. If I saw you guys on the street I would of course throw you a penny or discuss Bukowski or whatever "realist" writers you enjoy, but ultimately I would be able to tell within ten seconds if you're an Oxbridge grad and would dismiss you as a potential source of good company if you are not. I never thought I'd know what it was like to be objectively better than somebody else, for the value of my existence to be superior to the value of a stranger's, but now I do and I've never been happier. People are awed by power and prestige. All I need to do is mention the u

7/10 pasta

[Anonymous No.9807868]

>>9807779
what are ur top 5 book recs

thank u o bountiful beautiful master

[Anonymous No.9807871]

>>9807848
Well it's either that or you live like a homeless person who depends on friends to get by.

[Anonymous No.9807875]

>>9807853
I don't know about Denmark but Sweden is certainly a Jewocracy:

Percentage of population?
2%

Who owns the largest publishing house?
Jews

Who owns several of the largest newspapers?
Jews

Who owns the largest television station?
Jews

Who is head of the largest bank?
Jews

Who is head of the Swedish film institute?
Jews

Who have most of the editors for the largest literary / cultural magazine been?
Jews

Who owns the largest TV / Radio production company?
Jews

Who owns the largest consumer lifestyle magazine?
Jews

Who owns the largest Swedish newswire?
Jews

Who is the Swedish diplomat in the USA?
Jew

Who is the chairman of the Swedish author's association?
Jew

That's only scratching the surface.

Makes you wonder how 0.2% (20,000) of the population could hold so much power. It's strange also how so many are related either through blood or relation. A true mystery.

[Anonymous No.9807886]

>>9807853
Not surprised at all that the person advocating for an über nanny (daddy?) state is a woman.

[Anonymous No.9807891]

>>9807853
Not surprised at all that the person advocating for an über nanny (daddy?) state is a woman.

[Anonymous No.9807894]

>>9807875
This is true for any Western country, though.

[Anonymous No.9807896]

>>9807848
1. Sell-out and become a PR-friendly "nice guy" who shills garbage for money.

2. Scrape a living writing good stuff but spending most of your time giving speeches, teaching small workshops, attending literary festivals etc to sell your book

Oh wait you weren't seriously asking.

>>9807856
DFW, you FUCKING retard, barely ever worked a full-time job in his life. Here is his career history:

>Age 20: drives a schoolbus for a few weeks having taken a semester away from college

>Age 26: teaches creative writing part-time for a few semesters at Amherst

Age ~28: spends a week working as a security guard while living at Jamaica House halfway house before quitting due to weariness

Age ~28: spends a week working at a spa / country club before quitting because he saw a rival writer visiting there

Age 30-~38: writes freelance for magazines a few times a year

Age: 38 - death: teaches part-time at Pomona College and other colleges but takes entire years out and whole semesters to focus on his own work

You're fucking stupid if you think DFW represents the "working writer"

[Anonymous No.9807906]

>>9807896
and you're a naif if you think he never put in his time. "few weeks" "a week" "a day" lol. then again must suck knowing all these writers got it done while working and you can't.

[Anonymous No.9807908]

>>9807896
>Oh wait you weren't seriously asking.
Indeed I wasn't, because my idea of it makes more sense. Write next to a job. You can still "attending literary festivals etc to sell your book".

[Anonymous No.9807909]

>>9807906
You're just a dumb fucking irritating troll kid.

Learn to actually stand for something in life. Learn to actually know what the fuck you're talking about.

You are everything wrong with nu-4chan, you fucking ball-less child.

[Anonymous No.9807914]

>>9807712
>mfw I'm still unemployed a year after graduation from Oxford

Shit's tough mate. The grass is always greener on the other side, but once you get there you realize live is still shit.

[Anonymous No.9807917]

>>9807908
NAME ONE FUCKING WELL-KNOWN AUTHOR PUBLISHED IN THE PAST 10 YEARS WHO WROTE WHILE WORKING FULL-TIME IN A JOB THEY HATED

NAME ONE FUCKING AUTHOR YOU STUPID IGNORANT PIECE OF SHIT

I FUCKING HATE YOU STUPID NORMIE STEM FAGS SO MUCH

YOU LITERALLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

YOU ARE LITERALLY THE REASON HITLER EXISTED AND HATED HIS DAD SO MUCH

YOU ARE THE DUMB, DIM-WITTED FATHER OF A LITERARY GENIUS AND NOTHING MORE

YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID

[Anonymous No.9807919]

>>9807914
I don't believe this.

Did you graduate Gender Studies?

[Anonymous No.9807920]

>>9807914
What secondary school did you go to?

[Anonymous No.9807922]

>>9807909
>Learn to actually stand for something in life.

lol. so sad.

[Anonymous No.9807924]

>>9807919
I studied international relations in combination with French and German, all in order to get a job in foreign policy consultancy / diplomacy related fields. But even with a degree from Oxford, I can't even get an internship without knowing the right people.

[Anonymous No.9807927]

>>9807914
Let me guess, you have no connections?

[Anonymous No.9807930]

>>9807917
>write like this
>call me IGNORANT PIECE OF SHIT

pssssht, nothing personell, kid. Good luck with your writing career, you'll need it.

[Anonymous No.9807939]

>>9807924
Ouch. You chose one of the most connection-based fields, you made a dumb move. Do you still hope to get a job in your field or will you just settle to become a low-level civil servant?

[Anonymous No.9807941]

>>9807939
I'm going to keep trying, and otherwise I'll probably end up in academia teaching some political science related subject.

[Anonymous No.9807947]

>>9807939
>become a low-level civil servant?

sounds nice

[Anonymous No.9807952]

>>9807947
If you are a manchild with no ambition, maybe.

[Anonymous No.9807953]

>>9807941
Uh, the job market in academia is also cutthroat, do expect you'll just get offered a nice teaching job at a uni just because you have a bachelor's in international relations?

[Anonymous No.9807954]

>>9807924
Try HR positions in multinational companies.

[Anonymous No.9807958]

>>9807952
or you know, well adjusted.

[Anonymous No.9807961]

>>9807953
Not really. I know it's really difficult as the spots are limited. But I do have 2 master's degrees and 4 degrees in languages other than my mother-tongue. Also, I'm willing to work abroad so any top-100 university in Europe, Australian, or North America is good enough for me.

[Anonymous No.9807966]

>>9807954
This actually is a good idea, I haven't considered those positions yet as I'm not that interested in corporate positions. Thanks for the advice.

[Anonymous No.9807984]

>>9807961
>any top-100 university in Europe, Australian, or North America is good enough for me
do you know fucking anything

[Anonymous No.9807985]

>>9807966
Well that's what happens to most people who pick a meme major, they end up getting a meme corporate job, most likely in HR.

[Anonymous No.9807989]

>>9807985
I wouldn't call ambassadors or diplomats meme occupations. And giving that I was born in a family without any significant connections, studying international relations actually was my best shot to get access to these positions.

[Anonymous No.9807990]

>>9807784

> tfw being offered a software engineering job for a growing financial company

I think it's the best of both worlds but I am scared that in 10 years my nose will suddenly hook down and I'll suddenly give birth to a jap daughter, and not jap in the good, kawaii way

[Anonymous No.9807991]

>>9807966
D-don't forget your roots when you are rich, anon. O-okay?

[Anonymous No.9808011]

>Thread about literature or philosophy.
Ten to twenty replies.
>Thread about IQ, university, or any frog thread
Over eighty replies.

[Anonymous No.9808016]

>go to world-renowned stem school for free on a scholarship
>study physics
>currently studying for the physics gre and looking into astrophysics phd programs
>read and write for fun and to have some kind of creative hobby that keeps me in touch with culture
It's not that hard to live a normal, well-balanced life, gang

[Anonymous No.9808027]

>>9808016
>It's not that hard to live a normal, well-balanced life, gang

I kno right

[Anonymous No.9808035]

>>9808016
>grad student
>normal, well-balanced life
???

[Anonymous No.9808042]

>>>>"""""""networking"""""""

[Anonymous No.9808046]

Hey guys serious question here - I want to do my undergrad in EE b/c my sister works for an electronics company and can get me internships and a high paying job guaranteed once I get my bachelor's.

I'm really lit and interested in the humanities but when good things fall into your lap you take it.

I'm kind of a striver though and bored with ordinary experiences so after I get my degree I'd like to go ivy just to see what's going on over there.

question is what can I go to ivy for and what can I do to maximize my chances of admission?

As an applicant I'd be in my 30s with an engineering degree.

[Anonymous No.9808051]

>>9808042
>>>>(((networking)))

[Anonymous No.9808080]

Manhattan attorney here. Graduated near top of my class at a State school, Ivy law school.

Mfw my office is on the fourth floor, so when I jump I probably wont even die.

[Anonymous No.9808095]

>the only bad failure's at something you knew wasn't worth doing in the first place

[Anonymous No.9808108]

>>9807906
Wallace has quotes talking about how he just took the job at Pomona because he needed more stuff to do during the day. Read his biography if you think he worked hard at anything other than writing

[Anonymous No.9808117]

>>9807853
wait is this sarcasm or...

[Anonymous No.9808137]

>>9807767
I remember the thread you made you fucking loser.

[Anonymous No.9808145]

>>9807914
I also went to Oxford, and also struggled to find work. Oxbridge handing you a job is a meme.

[Anonymous No.9808146]

>>9808108
yer, a neurotic pampered jock desperate to appear uber gen-x burnout is totally reliable. saint dave memes abound

[Anonymous No.9808162]

>>9808117
You tell us Shlomo.

[Anonymous No.9808176]

>>9807738
truly hideous

[Anonymous No.9808183]

>>9808176
Would still impregnate.

[Anonymous No.9808186]

>>9807784
Engineering is oversaturated right now though

[Anonymous No.9808282]

>>9807768
whats good, my fellow T14er
poorfags eternally btfo

[Anonymous No.9808299]

>>9807788
you realize melville went to a prep school and studied classics right? He was raised posh, and even if his standard of living declined as he got older, he was touched by wealth in his formative years, when it mattered. He was also extremely well-connected.

Despite this his fiction earned him little/no money and he started rent-seeking off of his wife (who he married as the result of a family connection)

[Anonymous No.9808302]

>>9808145
good to know I'm not alone. It enables me to blame the system and not my own personal failings

[Anonymous No.9808306]

>>9807811
>You can't even get into the best ivy league schools these days unless your parents went there
tough luck, should have had better parents :)

[Anonymous No.9808370]

>>9808299
It was still highschool dude, I guarantee he was thought fuck all there

[Anonymous No.9808445]

>mfw Micheal Young was right
I only hope his last prediction turns out to be true

[Anonymous No.9808474]

>>9807712
>where you have your critiques torn to shreds by world class academics
This sounds so damned depressing. Nobody wants their thoughts to be shat on by authority figures.

[Anonymous No.9809420]

>>9808011
any board on 4chan my friend.

[Anonymous No.9809485]

Mfw I go to LSE but I study philosophy, will get a 2:1 at best, never did any internship or part time job, haven't talked to careers service and will get no good references

Looking for a job stacking shelves or something once I finish

[Anonymous No.9809489]

>>9809485
Also I'm a communist and wouldn't accept any job in management/finance/govt even if I could get one. What do lads? Inb4 kill self etc

[Anonymous No.9809493]

>>9809489
>I'm a communist
Stop being a communist.

[Anonymous No.9809502]

>>9807767
You're just an emasculated beta, that's why your girl left you for a kike, self-pitying faggot. Leave my board.

[Anonymous No.9809516]

>>9808011
>t. newfaggot

[Anonymous No.9809559]

>>9807875
Jews have very good verbal intelligence.

[Anonymous No.9809582]

>>9809493
I will when you stop being a cuck

[Anonymous No.9811018]

>>9807712
Immodesty is unbecoming. The best loved of the brightest have always tempered their brilliance with humility.

[Anonymous No.9811044]

>>9811018
why the fuck did you think this thread was worth saving?

[Anonymous No.9811125]

>reading a humanities subject
>working in Silicon Valley / Wall Street / City of London

lel more like Starbucks lad

[Anonymous No.9811140]

>>9807784
Finance blows. I did finance in school. All I got was sales jobs and contract/marketing work after graduation.

Now I'm a carpenter technician. Work with my hands all day, mostly outside, sometimes in a kitchen or bathroom, make twice as much.

It's a bit exhausting on the body, and it's not guaranteed work, but I'm pretty free.

Even my buddy who makes 200k a year in asset management is looking for ways out. He said he'll try and plod along for another couple years but he doesn't know if he's going to make it. Is already planning on going into teaching. Preferably a university but said he'll start at the bottom if he has to.

[Anonymous No.9811696]

>>9807767
>Love is the codeword for a socio-economic sorting ritual

LeL someone forgot their history class, just fuck Hollywood

[Anonymous No.9811710]

>>9807750
>that satisfaction the first week of college when you find out the other guys on your floor also went to private high schools and also hate poor people

[Anonymous No.9811715]

>>9807779
fake and gay. Oxford don't do postgrad MAs

try again honey :)

[Anonymous No.9811728]

>>9807853
She looks like a stressed out serial killer

[Anonymous No.9811831]

>>9807779
If ur so gr8 why didn't u go to Cambo

[Anonymous No.9811854]

>>9807825
The degenerate aristocratic progeny is a pretty well understood phenomenon. If it's any consolation they are rarely able to extend their privilege another generation.

[Anonymous No.9811857]

>>9811854
>If it's any consolation they are rarely able to extend their privilege another generation.

How fucking clueless are you m8?

You obviously haven't spent time with these people.

[Anonymous No.9811871]

>>9807961
You studies languages beneficial to diplomacy and literature rather than intelligence, didn't you? Rookie mistake.

That being said I semi-frequently deal with people in politics/diplomacy/Intel and it's amazing how ignorant they are -- it's all connections to get a job with them I think.

Intelligence is your best bet to get by on merit though of you're trying to make it as an internationalist.

[Anonymous No.9811881]

>>9807989
Joining a diplomatic corps to be an ambassador is like joining the Army to be a general.

[Anonymous No.9811888]

>>9807712
Why do you keep making these threads?
Were you humbled by some high school drop-out waiter while trying to impress your dad?

[Anonymous No.9811892]

>>9808046
I've got my BS and MS in EE. Go for it, much easier to be a /lit/ autodidact than for STEM.

How to get into an Ivy: do really well in undergrad and go there for grad school. Ivy undergrad for your BS is a meme and the deck is massively stacked against you if you're not a NAM.

[Anonymous No.9811893]

>>9807712
>top 3 ivy league
HPY is for faggots. They just ride off name recognition. The rest of the Ivy league is way better, without the ridiculous grade inflation.

Columbia master race, btw.

[Anonymous No.9811945]

>>9807712
You kid yourself of being one with intellegent "high class" people but you are really never important. God laughs while he watches little chicken moving wings.

[Anonymous No.9811967]

it is true that life isn't worth living if you weren't born rich, attractive and went to an elite university.

but it's not the case that students at elite universities are particularly intelligent. the type of people who write about shit life white privilege for the new york times, vox.com, whatever, are mostly from elite colleges and these people are dumb as shit.

the math/hard sciences students at these universities are smart though.

[Anonymous No.9812114]

>Work in an industry
>Get a shitty foundation degree from it
>Go to a shit tier university and make it a full degree
>End up getting a job in central government advertising because it was "CV blind" and I can talk well

Your life is what you make of it.

[Anonymous No.9812143]

>>9811893
>The rest of the Ivy league is way better, without the ridiculous grade inflation.

Whatever makes you sleep at night.
>C-columbia is still a respectable and better school, r-right guys?

[Anonymous No.9812145]

>>9807924
Apply to the civil service diplomatic fast stream. It's hard to get in but you're what they want.

[Anonymous No.9812149]

>>9811871
If English, German and French aren't 'good' languages, than why do all the international institutions (United Nations, European Union, WHO, IMF, NATO, WTO, etc) all require proficiency in these languages?

[Anonymous No.9812152]

>>9812149
They're all bureaucratic nightmares run by Europeans who think they're relevant?

[Anonymous No.9812168]

>>9812152
>who think they're relevant?

Name me more relevant international institutions other than the ones I listed. I'll wait.

[Anonymous No.9812175]

>>9807767
>tfw going to start at Oxford this year
do i still get the surreal lifestyle if i'm not from a rich family?

[Anonymous No.9812178]

>>9812175
Were you privately educated / did you attend a top grammar school?

[Anonymous No.9812179]

>>9807776
people care about your undergrad when it's oxbridge/top league tho

[Anonymous No.9812185]

>>9812178
Nope. State school all my life + family income of about 30k per year

[Anonymous No.9812187]

>>9812175
I went to Oxford and I always felt like an outsider. You'll never get into the upper-tier associations and clubs, and you'll probably never attain a high position in the associations you do get into. It felt quite strange to be honest. I always felt like a lot of important shit was going on, but I was never involved or even knew about what was happening around me.

[Anonymous No.9812190]

>>9812168
That's the thing though, international institutions are fundamentally irrelevant. What matters is the foreign policy of nations.

[Anonymous No.9812192]

>>9812190
>international realism
>2017

[Anonymous No.9812193]

>>9812187
I'm only really interested in joining the Conservative Association (to network and do something I enjoy) and the Oxford Union. I feel like the former would be considered upper-tier, but I don't see why I would feel an outsider there? I'm not aiming for presidency or anything.

And this is all if I get the A-level results I want yet. Shitting it to be honest lad.

[Anonymous No.9812200]

>>9812193
Good luck mate. But one thing, DO NOT FUCKING JOIN THE Oxford Union. It's a scam, and they specifically prey on new students because they don't realize it yet. You don't get to join debates, attend the most popular/important debates, or get any real concrete benefit.

[Anonymous No.9812205]

>>9812200
This is interesting advice. How *do* you get to attend the popular/important debates? I wasn't planning on debating in it because my college has its own debate society which I'd feel more comfortable in.

[Anonymous No.9812210]

>>9809489
>communist
>wouldn't accept any job in govt
Doesn't compute.

[Anonymous No.9812214]

>>9812205
You get in by knowing the right people, having enough status, or after years of service to the Union. I also joined the debate club of my specific college and it is far better if you actually want to attend debates, participate in debates, have in say in what the debates are about, and save a lot of money on membership.

[Anonymous No.9812218]

>>9812193
Cambridge here, probably similar
>conservative association
One way ticket to make everyone hate you, and it's full of absolute fedora weirdos
>union
Huge scam, never joined, never regreted it.

[Anonymous No.9812226]

>>9812214
>>9812218
Thanks for the advice. I'm still probs joining the Conservative Association though Cambro, I do not care if people hate me

[Anonymous No.9812241]

>>9812226
What college are you at btw? I'm at Linacre.

[Anonymous No.9812253]

>>9812241
Should be at University College. I say 'should' because I'm setting myself up for disappointment on the 17th August when results come out. Just got sent a fat reading list from my college though and don't know whether to dedicate hours and hours studying things I might not have to if I don't get in.

[Anonymous No.9812258]

>>9812253
what results do you require? And tell me about it, I graduated summa cum laude at a top 50-university, and I still barely got accepted to a master's program

[Anonymous No.9812269]

>>9812258
AAA, which is actually very achievable and the same requirements for many non-Oxbridge unis. But the easy entry requirements made me really complacent during A-levels so now I'm worried I fucked up. I literally revised for most of my exams when lying in bed in between naps, what a mess

[Anonymous No.9812443]

>>9812226
Feel free to join, I did. Stopped going after the first couple of events because it was full of alt-right loons.
The student right doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.9812452]

>>9807712
This thread is fucking great.

What would be equivalent to ivy-league or Oxbridge in Australia?

[Anonymous No.9812454]

>>9812443
>The student right doesn't exist.

They do, they just don't make a fuss about it. Unfortunately it can be social suicide at this point to be right wing so most just don't tell anyone.

[Anonymous No.9812459]

>>9809485
>Goes to LSE
>Is a communist

wtf are you doing?

[Anonymous No.9812461]

>>9812452
Learning the alphabet in itself qualifies you to become a member of Australia's cultural hierarchy.

[Anonymous No.9812476]

>>9812459
Everyone that goes everywhere is a communist now.

It changes when they get a job. If they get a job.

[Anonymous No.9812485]

I actually went to a top 50 university once. I wasted like a whole year of my life applying
and trying to get good grades, but the university turned out to be complete shit. Everyone was autistic or smug, I didn't feel comfortable asking questions during lectures, etc. Now I'm studying at a local top 500 university and it's much better. I chat with my professors and the entire class consists of 20 students. Thankfully I live outside the Anglosphere where university rankings really don't matter. I get much better grades now, too.

[Anonymous No.9812493]

>>9812485
You sound like a sperg who doesn't know how to think strategically.

[Anonymous No.9812520]

>>9812454
Yeah, my entire political experience at uni is occasionally disagreeing with people over dinner, before switching topics to something more interesting.
Political engagement from the right is not quite possible. CUCA/OUCA are full of posh echo boxing male nerds who want to be career politicians.
Tories are generally, unironically called evil, if talking about someone, dropping their a CUCA member is the equivalent of saying 'this person is not worth talking to'.

Oxbridge made me less political, if more right wing (and racist).

[Anonymous No.9812531]

>>9812520
I think that's the experience of everyone who has gone to university who isn't a fuggin gommie.

The funny thing is I think it does rub people the wrong way. I'm more right wing than I was for having been told how wrong I am for thinking it. I don't see why accusing people of being evil is likely to make them agree with you.

[Anonymous No.9812585]

>>9807712
So the only point of reading is to get a prestigious job or to study literature professionally? And here I was thinking most people do it cause they enjoy it...

[Anonymous No.9812630]

>>9812149
Every single one of those orgs is primarily about patronage. Even a job as a low-level "technical" translator or the like is a crapshoot without an in.

The other problem is that French, German, and English are very common. Nobody cares if you can speak English and German. Practically anybody hired off the street in Germany can do that.

Instead of piling up similar European languages, you should have gone for a Slavic or Asian or Near Eastern language. Government agencies would have literally come after you if you had demonstrated proficiency there. You didn't though, because it was hard and you had visions of an easy life flouncing around European capitals instead. You think those jobs get handed out to any schmuck who can read French? Lol.

[Anonymous No.9812643]

>>9812145
Not only are European diplomatic postings hard to get (because people who can speak the languages are a dime a dozen) but you'll be locked out of the upper echelons because they're all taken up by political appointees. If you really want to live in Europe, study a Scandinavian or non-Russian Slavic language.

[Anonymous No.9812646]

>>9812630
Learning French is much more worthwhile than German. Less French people speak English than Germans, and French is a relatively common language in Africa.

[Anonymous No.9812649]

>>9812643
You can get other countries though. It's clear that he wants to work in international diplomacy.

I applied but couldn't get it due to no languages. I ended up getting into the Government Communication Service instead.

[Anonymous No.9812658]

>>9812646
Agreed, but someone thinking of making a living out of knowing French should expect to spend the rest of his working life in Gabon or Congo, not Paris or Brussels.

[Anonymous No.9812666]

>>9812649
"International diplomacy" for someone without connections generally involves living in the ass end of the world for extended periods. If you want to have a decent life in a Western diplomatic service, learn Chinese or Russian, according to preference.

[Anonymous No.9812673]

>>9812658
This. English is the lingua franca anyway.

[Anonymous No.9812674]

>>9812658
Expecting to make a living out of knowing another language alone is silly, but it's worthwhile addition ot one's other credentials.

[Anonymous No.9812677]

>>9807742
IDK man. It is more about prestige for the privileged than anything. Whether you can get a good job or not doesn't matter. But it would make more financial sense to do what you did.

[Anonymous No.9812686]

>>9812175
N E T W O R K

[Anonymous No.9812701]

>>9812674
The original anon who was talking about knowing "4 other languages" (probably all DLI Tier 1&2) and was willing to go "anywhere in North America, Europe, or Australia" (rofl) didn't sound like he had any other useful skills. The willingness to take a shit while squatting occasionally would probably open up his job prospects considerably.

[Anonymous No.9812719]

>>9812701
Hmm oh well.

Knowing 4 languages is more of an asset at home than it is overseas, seeing as English countries are largely monolingual. He could become a language teacher.

[Anonymous No.9812739]

>>9808299
You don't have to be rich to study the classics anymore. Pretty much any book you could possibly want is available in a cheap paperback that can be shipped to your house in a few days, and if you can't even be assed to do that you can just download it for free from Gutenberg or Libgen.

If you're not educated in the classics in 2017, it's your own fucking fault.

[Anonymous No.9812745]

>>9812719
>language teacher
Steady employment, maybe. But if we're talking about school level then he could have just as easily gotten another degree and taught English or arithmetic.

[Anonymous No.9812751]

>>9808176
>>9807738
i want to slap her tits

[Anonymous No.9812764]

>>9812701
>>9812666

Why would I learn a regionally specific language to give myself a competitive advantage? If I study Russian, and there are no spots open for Russian speakers, then I'm fucked hard. Studying languages like French is far superior as it is more widely spoken, more relevant (thus more available opportunities and employment flexibility) , an official operating language of many institutions (NATO, EU, etc), and more closely related to my mother-tongue (making it easier and faster)

[Anonymous No.9812773]

>>9812764
Well congratulations. You've learned a language lots of people can speak, and probably not to the standard that they're able to speak English.

[Anonymous No.9812787]

>>9812773
>You've learned a language lots of people can speak

And this is supposed to be a bad thing? Also, neither French, nor English are my mother-tongue so I'm still ahead in employability.

[Anonymous No.9812794]

>>9812787
Well, good luck I suppose. Just don't be surprised when you get ignored because languages aren't actually as important as competence.

[Anonymous No.9812800]

>>9812794
True. But you won't even be considered if you don't speak these languages. All the job openings that I applied for specifically state proficiency as a requirement.

[Anonymous No.9812935]

>>9812794
What is even competence in the corporate world. Its all meme jobs anyway.

regarding diplomacy you'll probably have to be trained by the government anyway.

[Anonymous No.9813575]

>>9812764
Russian is a very needed language at the moment, by the way. Not many people are learning it but it's never stopped becoming less important.

[Anonymous No.9813588]

>>9812476
Getting a job should turn you more communist if anything

[Anonymous No.9813604]

>>9813575
You'd have to deal with Russians though

[Anonymous No.9813742]

>>9812739
>being this beguiled by 'le autodidacts'
youre not getting the same experience at all lmfao
literally read about how anyone who was anybody was schooled prior to wwi

[Anonymous No.9813926]

>>9813742
Its obviously better but there are audodidactic greats of course. Orwell (alot of other working class artists) Don delillo i think.

[Anonymous No.9813956]

>>9807712
>modern colleges
>intellectually edifying environment

[Anonymous No.9813959]

>>9812520
>>9812531
>people hate me for being right wing that is why I became more right wing
ebin

[Anonymous No.9814014]

>>9807831
On a different note, I sort of had a wave of emotional pain when I saw "age 18 -21". Seeing that as an age area that ive already missed and wasted.

[Anonymous No.9814023]

>>9812485
Is top 50 supposed to be really good? I barely even passed HS went to a CC for two years smoking weed everyday and now I transferred to a top 50 school by bullshitting everything. Not particularly impressive anon

[Anonymous No.9814501]

>>9807712
kkkek

[Anonymous No.9814514]

>>9813959
I wasn't right wing, probably still aren't.
But being anything even slightly right of centre gets you labelled as an elitist monster who wants to murder the disabled.
But in the end it was the oppression olympics that got me to check out of politics.

[Anonymous No.9814539]

Even if he got the economic calculation problem wrong, this thread has convinced me he was more right than ever.