/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.979861]

How about a Roth thread? Or a general Jew writer thread?

Almost done with this, it's pretty amazing.

[Anonymous No.979868]

I loved the dying animal

[Anonymous No.979899]

>>979868
Only read "The Plot Against America", "Portnoy's Complaint", "American Pastoral", and "Goodbye Columbus". He has such an extensive fucking bibliography.

[Anonymous No.979905]

JIDF is in my /lit/ :(

[Anonymous No.979907]

I liked "The Plot Against America" better when it was called "It Can't Happen Here" by Sinclair Lewis.

I liked "The Human Stain" better when it was called "Kingsblood Royal" by Sinclair Lewis.

P.S. Sinclair Lewis won the Nobel Prize for Literature, even though he was a comic/satiric American novelist. Phillip Roth is just desperate to win the Nobel Prize for Literature, and won't.

[Anonymous No.979914]

>>979907
Doesn't change the fact that Roth is the greater writer.

[Anonymous No.979937]

>>979907

The academy has been trying as hard as it can not to give the prize to an American for the last decade

[Anonymous No.979941]

>>979907
"It Can't Happen Here" has none of the complexities of American Jewishness, which is what I think makes Roth's novel so brilliant.

Never read "The Human Stain" so I can't speak for it.

[Anonymous No.979944]

The Plot Against America sucked, infodumps everywhere and an emotionless, deus ex machina resolution (the latter part almost literally, because it's an airplane that brings it about). He should've just written another book about being a new york jew, it would've been more interesting.

[Anonymous No.979945]

>>979907

Get a new line, bro.

[Anonymous No.979949]

>>979944
infodumps? wtf? And how the hell was it not another book about being a (practically) new york jew?

[Anonymous No.979953]

>>979949

He progresses the plot by summaries of the action in the political sphere, i.e. infodumps

[Anonymous No.979956]

>>979945

Okay. Explain to me how "Operation Shylock" is a novel rather than a string of interesting but disjointed essays about the paradoxes of Jewishness, with a pretentious half-plot and some ghastly sex scenes stuffed in there.

Other than that, I'll get a new line when Philip Roth apologizes to Claire Bloom and her daughter for "I Married A Communist". Which is to say: never.

The stories in "Goodbye, Columbus" and "The Ghostwriter" are decent work. Beyond that, I think he's phenomenally overrated, and relies on late-night phonecalls to Harold Bloom to provide him with "intellectual" content.

--"Londsman! What should I call it?"
--"My dear, Yeats speaks of the soul being 'fastened to a dying animal'..."
--"I should call the book 'Fastened'?"
--"No, no, my dear..."
--"Ay-yi. Goyishcher kopf..."

[Anonymous No.979962]

>>979956
Yeah Claire Bloom is really a saint. It's not like she published memoirs detailing their relationship for the whole world to see.

[Anonymous No.979970]

The Holocaust Industry by Norman Finkelstein

[Anonymous No.979971]

>>979962

Uh, she did that in RESPONSE to "I Married A Communist", not to mention the fact that---as one might expect from his fiction---he's an abusive misogynist.

And as far as I'm concerned, one Norman Mailer was one too many.

Good for Claire Bloom, sticking up for herself.

Have you read her memoir? It's called "Leaving a Doll's House" for a reason. Not only is she an actress who had played Nora in Ibsen's "Doll House", then she found herself living some kind of Woody-Allen-meets-Ingmar-Bergman-in-a-nightmare real-life version of it.

[Anonymous No.979978]

>>979971

I Married A Communist was published two years after her book.

[Anonymous No.979983]

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[Anonymous No.979985]

>>979978
This. Learn to read, idiot.

[Anonymous No.979997]

>>979970
Hmm

[Anonymous No.979999]

>>979978

Oooh, somebody's researching a dissertation.

Or else is permanently enamored of the writer who taught him to jerk off.

[Anonymous No.980001]

>>979999

I was fucking household objects long before I read Portnoy's Complaint, thank you very much.

[Anonymous No.980005]

>>980001

Yeah, well, as Sophie Portnoy would tell you, a chazzer bleibt a chazzer.

Claire Bloom found that out the hard way.

[Anonymous No.980016]

>>980005

Better a pig who knows than a Socrates who doesn't. :3

[Anonymous No.980034]

white noise by my man don d.


umm kafka was a jew too. so was marx. einstein.

[Anonymous No.980036]

>>980016

What has Athens to do with Jerusalem? lrn2Tertullian

[Anonymous No.980065]

you guys are fags

[Anonymous No.980075]

Isaac Babel, now that's a good writer

[Anonymous No.980079]

Reading that jew-speak is bad for your vision, like reading in a poorly lit room.

Pic very fucking related

[Anonymous No.980089]

my favorite jewish novelist is walter mosley

[Anonymous No.980105]

I don't like this guy's books because he's a big meanie jerk QQ

[Anonymous No.980112]

>>980105

no, he's just a shitty overrated writer

[Anonymous No.980133]

>>980112
well that's fair enough

By the way.. I just got the word schmisel in my captcha, sounds like it might be Jewish? idk

[Anonymous No.980136]

And now I just got "of pastorals." What the heck?

[Anonymous No.980163]

I've only read _American Pastoral_. I enjoyed it, but I can imagine the writing turning a lot of people off. The writing is so heavy and detailed that it's nearly bloated, but I think it all flows along rather nicely.