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/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General Thread Anonymous Fri Jul 21 10:23:39 2017 No.9786011 [Reply] [Original]

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 10:25:46 2017 No.9786019 >tfw found the secret thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 10:31:56 2017 No.9786036 So we can all agree that sci-fi > fantasy right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 10:38:48 2017 No.9786052 >>9786011 sff books have the fucking worst covers

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 10:48:25 2017 No.9786087 Echopraxia is shite.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 10:50:14 2017 No.9786093 I just finished "a fall of moondust" It was shit, SHIT

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 10:52:30 2017 No.9786103 File: 345 KB, 1600x1067, 1471968300267.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9786019 ????

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 10:56:56 2017 No.9786119 good graphic novels?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 10:58:16 2017 No.9786124 >>9786119 I haven't read any children's books in a while, sorry can't help you

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 11:00:07 2017 No.9786140 >>9786093 I just finished "space odyssey 2001" It was meh Should i bother with Rama?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 11:00:43 2017 No.9786143 >>9786124 was this supposed to be a neg at me?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 11:07:47 2017 No.9786172 >>9786087 elaborate I agree it's no BS but I really enjoyed it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 11:12:39 2017 No.9786192 >>9786172 It's just filler book. Nothing happens.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 11:13:42 2017 No.9786196 >>9786119 Tell me what you like or have read or want and I'll sort you..

Anonymous Fri Jul 21 11:14:11 2017 No.9786201

Finished the first law trilogy some nights ago, I want more. So good. I have the other three side books as well, but I wanted to read something else in between these. So I read leviathan wakes from the expanse series. I watched the series as well but the book is kinda different but not that different. Miller is perfect in both though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 11:34:10 2017 No.9786271 >>9786143 Yes

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 11:58:16 2017 No.9786339 >>9786119 >>9786124 >>9786143 >>9786271 Quit playing coy and kiss already. >>9786119 Wouldn't >>>/co/ be more likely to have anons knowledgeable in this area?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 12:08:22 2017 No.9786364 >>9786119 Watchmen is much better than the movie. Same for V for Vendetta - movie is trash comparatively. Sandman series was a bit convoluted at times but a good read.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 12:55:48 2017 No.9786529 >>9786140 No. The Light of Other Days

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 12:56:51 2017 No.9786531 >>9786119 Y The Last Man

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 16:13:31 2017 No.9787230 >>9786011 Can people post the five most entertaining fantasy books they've read? I'm looking for something fun to read while on vacation. Five because I can go through a few books in a week.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 16:30:39 2017 No.9787297 >>9787230 1. Narrenturm - Andrzej Sapkowski 2. The Chronicles of Amber - The Corwin Cycle 3. City of Saints and Madmen: The Book of Ambergris 4. Quicksilver - Neal Stephenson

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 16:55:32 2017 No.9787433 Any interesting fantasy books in high fantasy medieval styled world that came in recent years ? (up to 6 years ago) I am looking for something interesting

Anonymous Fri Jul 21 17:05:12 2017 No.9787488

>>9787297
>City of Saints and Madmen: The Book of Ambergris

I'm about halfway through (just finished the squidology story) does this get better and less randumb? O really liked the first story about the missionary but I feel like it peaked there and although the painter one and history book we're pretty good, has steadily declined.
really didn't care for the literal self-insert and it's starting to get obvious that every character is him and his parents since they all have a religious mother and autistic father

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 17:11:42 2017 No.9787531 >>9787488 My favourite is "The Transformation of Martin Lake". >does this get better It's already good and fun > and less randumb? No.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 17:37:19 2017 No.9787661 Reading the second volume of Malazan right now, halfway through at the moment. It's decent.

Anonymous Fri Jul 21 17:42:06 2017 No.9787693
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>>9787230
Man have I got something for you. Granted, I'm only about halfway into the first book and I'm still not sure if this is 'serious' or if the author is taking the piss, but I'm enjoying it.

Imagine the densest harem anime protagonist - except he's super good looking, incredibly built, tall, educated and has been trained to be a super unbeatable stealth assassin ninja knight antiwizard. Except he literally doesn't have any inherent social skills apart from what he's been taught to do in certain situations and when he set out into the world he fatally misunderstood his final orders.

It won't win any literature prizes but it's a pretty fucking fun read so far.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 17:43:27 2017 No.9787700 >>9786052 you mean best

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 19:14:05 2017 No.9788059 >>9787693 wtf I love assassins now

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 19:24:18 2017 No.9788096 >>9787661 Will only get better. Have fun.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 19:36:28 2017 No.9788141 File: 72 KB, 1024x563, fallen_by_spiralhorizon-d7qa1ug.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Aurang, the ancient Horde-General, Shaeönanra, the ancient grandmaster of the Mangaecca, gone forever. They are literally not coming back. Hold me.

Anonymous Fri Jul 21 19:43:29 2017 No.9788164

>>9786119
for fantasy/sci-fi or just in general?

>Fantasy
Bone
Cerebus
Conan (Dark Horse)
Sandman/Lucifer
Locke & Key (modern day with fantastic elements)
The Autumnlands
From Under Mountains
Fables

>Sci-Fi
Old City Blues (available for free online)
Eden: It's An Endless Word (manga)
Planetes (manga)
Transmetropolitan

>Medieval/Historical
Northlanders/The Black Road
Vinland Saga (manga)
Wolfsmund (manga)
Crecy (this one's a really short read)

there's also an ongoing by Greg Rucka called the Old Guard, about a group of immortals who work in the modern day as mercenaries, the oldest one in the group being a Scythian. kind of a nice mix of fantasy and history.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 20:39:28 2017 No.9788349 File: 783 KB, 1536x1152, HC02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First Counsel Janus bet Vhalnich Mieran is my autismbando!

Anonymous Fri Jul 21 20:52:59 2017 No.9788402
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I began reading Jack Vance's Demon Princes series with Star King, which I just finished. It's essentially a revenge plot; as a child, the protag witnesses the massacre of his home town by the hands of five 'demon princes' i.e. arch-criminals whom he vows to kill. After training and reaching adulthood, and years of searching the galaxies, he finds a lead towards the identity of one of them by chance. It's a surprisingly hard-bitten narrative, at times like a detective novel, as we follow the protag's thought processes and cunning machinations in his pursuit of his mysterious and powerful nemesis.

This is interesting to compare to his Dying Earth books - the same wry prose, eye catching visual writing and witty dialogue is still here, but the tone is more tense and violent, and in a SF father than fantasy setting. The pacing feels good, and there is a satisfying mixture of intrigues, exotic locations, and revenge porn.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 21:21:51 2017 No.9788488 >>9786201 Heroes are fucking perfect. I'd go and say that it is my most favourite book ever. Abercrombie is the new Gemmell

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 21:23:56 2017 No.9788496 >>9787230 First Law Trilogy (7-8/10) Side books -BSC 8/10 -Heroes 11/10 -Red Country 6-7/10 Also Slavic Fantasy books

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 21:50:51 2017 No.9788578 /lit/ noob here. I read Dune. It was great. What's next?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 21:59:03 2017 No.9788604 >>9788578 Use the links in the OP also reading the rest of Frank Herbert's Dune books wouldn't hurt

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 22:07:11 2017 No.9788629 >>9788604 >also reading the rest of Frank Herbert's Dune books wouldn't hurt It would

Anonymous Fri Jul 21 22:08:51 2017 No.9788633

>>9788604
Yeah, I've seen the links.

The problem is I feel some books, though great I'm sure, aren't for relatively new literature readers.

They have lots of established 2deep4u lore with lots of weird names that you can't even pronounce and they throw you into a situation where you have no idea what the hell is going on.

Any book recommendations that aren't like this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 22:11:18 2017 No.9788650 >>9788633 Mistborn

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 22:12:27 2017 No.9788655 >>9788629 I liked them. Why do you say that, anon?

Anonymous Fri Jul 21 22:25:04 2017 No.9788685

>>9788633
There are plenty of great and easy to read /sffg/ stories which aren't just alternate universe encyclopedias for the autistic.
>The Last Unicorn
>Childhood's End
>Starship Troopers
>The Stars My Destination
>Legend
>Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
Lots of quality entry level stuff. But don't read Mistborn, it's written by a literal autist.

Anonymous Fri Jul 21 22:25:36 2017 No.9788689

>>9788633
If I had to suggest five books for a fairly new sf+fantasy reader, then: 1) A volume of HP Lovecraft short stories; 2) GRRM's Game Of Thrones; 3) A Robert Heinlein 'juvenile', i.e. Red Planet, Citizen Of The Galaxy, etc; 4) Gateway by Frederik Pohl; 5) The Man Who Fell To Earth by Walter Tevis. These are accessible and entertaining books with a popular appeal, and some depth.

IMO books like Dune and Foundation are poor introductions. Dune is stodgy, Foundation offers little of the expected adventures and spacefaring thrills and is more of an extended history analogy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 22:29:51 2017 No.9788704 >>9788685 >reading scifi/fantasy >unironically calling someone a literal autist well alright then

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 22:31:25 2017 No.9788714 >>9788633 The "crash course" chart intentionally avoids difficult books. And frankly SF isn't a particularly esoteric genre. Some bad fantasy is difficult to follow but stick to well known standalones or defined trilogies and you'll be pretty safe.

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Anonymous Fri Jul 21 22:38:25 2017 No.9788737

>>9788578
The Foundation series by Asimov is excellent and my favourite after Dune; however I would at least try the rest of Herbert's work as I found them to be a great continuation of the narrative began in Dune and it goes into some real depth with his ideas. The series as a whole has a different feel compared to the first book on its own which is why some people don't like it but you owe it to yourself to try - but whatever you do don't read anything by his son.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 22:38:26 2017 No.9788738 >>9788689 I was under the assumption Game of Thrones was mainstream crap. The books are a good fantasy read?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 22:42:31 2017 No.9788755 >>9788738 They're awful pseudo-fantasy historical food porn. All you'll gain from reading them is a broader view of the vast spectrum of quality that encompasses genre fiction and you'll realise just how thick the vast majority of the population are.

Anonymous Fri Jul 21 22:42:53 2017 No.9788758

>>9788738
The first two books are brilliant, and they're they're a good intro to fantasy fiction - action, intrigue, interesting characters. I think most readers would come away from them wanting to read more fantasy fiction, than if they read something dusty like Lord Of The Rings.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 22:51:29 2017 No.9788794 >>9788758 >read something dusty like Lord Of The Rings. Die in a fire desu :)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 22:53:50 2017 No.9788805 File: 624 KB, 1400x2178, rt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't think Ill ever read a book again without looking at a list of character names first

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 23:39:28 2017 No.9788953 >>9788738 They're pretty good

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 21 23:44:11 2017 No.9788966 Someone asked last thread about court/intrigue books, read The Lion of Senet. It's fantasy with almost nothing but intrigue, it even manages to turn the usual exceptionalism of a fantasy protagonist into a weakness.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 00:01:49 2017 No.9789025 >tfw sweet vanilla romance

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 00:03:12 2017 No.9789031 File: 1.73 MB, 3035x3024, IMG_2112.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just finished editing my science fiction anthology and made a book teaser trailer video. Is this normal? Do people make these? I have no idea. https://youtu.be/IgC1CPYylS4

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 00:33:23 2017 No.9789108 >>9786140 I liked Rama, but not the sequels never read 2001, figured the movie was good enough

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 00:41:58 2017 No.9789134

>>9789031
I saw your work on /ic/ and although it will probably look good to people who aren't artists you really need to grind the fundamentals and values when you have the time. A lot of the shading is fairly two dimensional and doesn't have a lot of weight behind it.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 00:45:24 2017 No.9789139

>>9788738
they're great, they kick the shit of 98% of fantasy

+ a handful of excellent POV characters, others run the gamut from great to meh
+ fantastic, layered plotting
+ well-paced and moves along at a good clip
+ interesting and deep (but fairly vanilla) wordbuilding
+ third book is the peak in quality

- cancerous normie fanbase, even the girls on tinder love it now
- mediocre fourth book, good fifth book

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 00:46:28 2017 No.9789142 >>9788755 >leaves out his recs which are so much better

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 00:58:09 2017 No.9789171 File: 23 KB, 275x413, blindsightcover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] t-thanks for 40 pages of the basics on game theory and chinese rooms, real interesting dropped

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 01:32:12 2017 No.9789257 File: 115 KB, 192x291, 1495489111811.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Post yfw when this piece of shit wins the Hugos

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 01:45:11 2017 No.9789285 >>9789134 They all took ten minutes, so that makes sense.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 01:46:12 2017 No.9789287 >>9789285 It's great for that timeframe!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 02:00:16 2017 No.9789315 >>9786119 http://theporporbooksblog.blogspot.com/search?q=graphic+novel

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 02:09:51 2017 No.9789335

>>9788738
The show is mainstream crap, the books were extremely well regarded in the fantasy scene for over a decade before the show even existed. Though why you're trying to act like a snob when you have zero fantasy chops is kinda confusing, somebody in your position should be reading stuff like GoT since it is able to appeal to people new to the genre and get them into it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 02:14:33 2017 No.9789345 File: 28 KB, 720x358, Beyond.the.Black.Rainbow.2010.DVDRip.x264-HANDJOB.mkv_snapshot_00.17.37_[2017.05.14_21.55.56].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9789031 spoopy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 02:24:19 2017 No.9789378 Really enjoying this Rogue Angel series, on the first book, but >Magic sword >two 500 year old guys >badass female protag who takes on guys thrice her size who are on steroids >Comfy adventures What more could you honestly ask for

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 02:27:57 2017 No.9789389 >>9789378 >There's 57 books in the series

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 02:45:41 2017 No.9789440
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>>9789287
I spent four years writing the stories and four days doing the drawings. I just want
it done, and specifically went for a messy pen and ink style so that I wouldn't overthink it and bog
myself down with the art.

I feel the same way about the cover. I just wanted a simple retro aesthetic and once I felt like I had it I stopped messing with it.

I have to be honest with you guys. Making a book by yourself is a ton of work, and it sucks, and it makes you anxious and feel like shit the whole time.

The only difference between an indie author and an agented author at a big publisher, is that I don't get the copout of having blind faith in some publishing interns to ease the anxiety, and instead have to do it myself.

That was a pointless rant. I need to get some sleep. The book should be out mid next week.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 02:54:59 2017 No.9789465 >>9789440 Have some faith, the cover and the trailer looks great.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 03:03:47 2017 No.9789478 Does you have the

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 03:05:34 2017 No.9789482 the book edited by Ursula le Guin that has Gene Wolfe i

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 03:06:52 2017 No.9789486 what works by Gene Wolfe are in book?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 03:10:49 2017 No.9789499 Did we just witness a shitposter have a stroke?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 03:39:21 2017 No.9789546 How do I into self-publishing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 03:41:56 2017 No.9789548 >>9789546 Follow the advice of our fellow aspiring author Stevian Heartbound

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 04:11:49 2017 No.9789594 ease someone help me understand where Gene Wolfe put the ne

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 04:15:35 2017 No.9789601 >>9788718 lmao look at that waddle

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 04:29:24 2017 No.9789616 >>9788718 he looks so soft we could cuddle and talk about fantasy worlds and compare pnp systems while basil poledouris plays in the background

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 05:40:31 2017 No.9789711 Any fantasy with a protagonist who's just a weak piss of shit. Not physically, but mentally. Easily gives up, easily scared and chooses to die before choosing to fight back. Just somebody who doesn't deserve to be the hero.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 05:54:15 2017 No.9789727 >>9788689 Gateway is slyly probably one my favourite books ever. It did everything so right

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 05:55:57 2017 No.9789729 >>9789171 What's with all this Watts hate recently? Are you all just plebs?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 05:56:59 2017 No.9789731 >>9789257 Anyone here read this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 06:25:44 2017 No.9789780 >>9789711 Rincewind?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 06:32:30 2017 No.9789792 >>9789711 Thomas Covenant Warning: lots of people hate the books.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 06:54:30 2017 No.9789847 >>9789792 Sounds like what I'm looking for, thanks. >hate Reading spoiler-less reviews seems like it's literally all about the character being a bitch. great.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 07:10:44 2017 No.9789877 >>9789711 Why do you need to self-insert?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 07:31:01 2017 No.9789938 Is house of blades good?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 07:37:59 2017 No.9789956 >>9789257 Did you read it? What's so bad about it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 07:51:32 2017 No.9789977 >>9789938 It's fun but I wouldn't exactly call it good If you want to read something that's basically an anime raising your power levels story you'll be okay, if you're looking for worldbuilding or whatever than you won't like it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 07:54:19 2017 No.9789983 File: 6 KB, 249x225, 1491316531612s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9789977 Sounds like just the thing. I assume it has "Beast mode" moments?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 08:06:01 2017 No.9790001 >>9789877 Because reading about myself in some fantasy setting is preferable to thinking about my gardening(removing weeds from pavements with a brush-cutter) work for the local government while on anti-psychotics.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 08:49:23 2017 No.9790096 File: 41 KB, 313x475, 208.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9789711 The Long Price series The protag is literally the most worthless and self-pitying piece of shit you could imagine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 10:02:08 2017 No.9790290 File: 1.68 MB, 2000x3000, Modern Fantasy Recs V2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9788578 >>9788633 >books a modern new reader would enjoy I got you senpai

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 10:11:29 2017 No.9790313 File: 166 KB, 297x475, 18047306.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9789983 Yes it does. It's literal anime.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 10:22:34 2017 No.9790343 >>9790313 His new series is even more anime, it even has the fucking Journey to the West/Dragonball cloud Unfortunately I had to wait for the third book and couldn't remember who the fuck anyone was when I started reading it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 10:52:11 2017 No.9790420 Where do I start Discworld?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 10:54:32 2017 No.9790431 File: 56 KB, 324x500, 51YqFyEDQ0L.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Please give epub.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 10:55:46 2017 No.9790436 >>9790420 From the beginning.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 11:02:03 2017 No.9790461 >>9790431 Any book with an unironic exclamation mark on it's cover doesn't deserve the time of day

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 11:27:20 2017 No.9790577 File: 19 KB, 225x337, Blindsight_(book_cover).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ...wow

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 11:28:17 2017 No.9790583
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So I decided to listen to Nathan Lowwll's book Quarter Share, which was released ~2009 as what is called a podiobook. In case you haven't heard of the affront to professional audiobooks that is podiobooks, it's when the author releases their book as a podcast that they record themselves (because the books weren't good enough to get published on their own). This should have been my first clue.

I thought Rothfuss was a bad writer, but I didn't even know that people like Lowell existed. The book is best summed up by the phrase "nothing happens." Any conflict that does exist is immediately resolved by the protagonist, who is named Ishmael. This is a story about a guy who is so good and personable that he just sort of breezes through life without the merest concern. But the first book wasn't physically painful, it was mostly just about Lowell's pseudo space economics. It isn't until the second book that the protagonist becomes a full on Mary Sue.

Most of the book is spent on the only four women on the ship the protag works on, all of whom happen to be attractive, and attracted to the main character. The last quarter of the book is spent in a nightclub, where the protag gets the most attractive woman there by dint of being the most interesting man to ever live. There is also a lengthy scene in a tailors shop where the four women admire the main character, while this guy who's the best tailor in the universe basically gives him a nice pair of jeans and a white polo. From this point on the protag is treated like a fashion model by literally everyone he meets.

I can't believe that critics haven't forced Lowell to burn his manuscripts and flee from the internet in shame. Editors exist so that people never have to be exposed to this level of incompetence. The internet was a mistake.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 11:37:47 2017 No.9790624 >>9790583 >Any conflict that does exist is immediately resolved by the protagonist, who is named Ishmael >who is named Ishmael >Ishmael hooooooo boy Lowell is one of 'those' writers

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 11:41:02 2017 No.9790634 >>9786201 best served cold and the heroes are a fucking joke red country is still bad but better than those two just read acts of caine if you want generic violence and a shitty hero

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 11:43:20 2017 No.9790641

The nubile tanned woman cringed as her owner brought forth an erect penis. "I am a nubile woman!" She cried indignantly. "How dare you sex me before my time! Guards!" She called. "Guards!"

Borin, her owner, placed one hand on his penis, and the other on the table and looked at her. "You will be fucked" he said.

"You do not dare to sex me!" laughed the woman, her oiled tan lines gleaming in the low light.

"You will be fucked," said Borin.

"Do not sex me!" wept the plant.

"You will be fucked," said Borin.

I watched this exchange. Truly, I believed the woman would be fucked. She was a woman, and on Gor she had no rights. Perhaps on Earth, in its permissive society, which distorts the true roles of all beings, which forces both woman and owner to go unhappy and constrained, which forbids the fulfillment of owner and woman, such might not happen. Perhaps there, it would not be fucked. But it was on Gor now, and would undoubtedly feel its true place, that of woman. It was female. It would be fucked at will. Such is the way with women.

Borin guided his penis, and muchly fucked the woman. The woman cried out. "No, Master! Do not fuck me!" The master continued to fuck the woman. "Please, Master," begged the tan nubile, "do not fuck me!" The master continued to fuck the woman. It was female. It could be fucked at will.

The supple female sobbed muchly as Borin extracted his penis. She was not pleased. Too, she was wet and sore. But this did not matter. She was female.

"You have been well fucked," said Borin.

"Yes," said the female, "I have been well fucked." Of course, it could be fucked by its master at will.

"I have fucked you well," said Borin.

"Yes, master," said the female. "You have fucked your woman well. I am female, and as such I should be fucked by my master."

The older woman next to the nubile supple tanned woman shuddered. She attempted to cover her small form with her small frail arms and small hands. "I am female," she said wonderingly. "I am of Earth, but for the first time, I feel myself truly womanlike. On Earth, I was able to control my fucking. I often scorned those who would fuck me. But they were weak, and did not see my scorn for what it was, the weak attempt of a small older woman to protect herself. Not one of the weak Earth owners would dare to fuck a female if she did not wish it. But on Gor," she shuddered, "on Gor it is different. Here, those who wish to fuck will fuck their women as they wish. But strangely, I feel myself most womanlike when I am at the mercy of a strong Gorean master, who may fuck me as he pleases."

"I will now fuck you," said Borin, the older woman's Gorean master.

The mature beauty did not resist being fucked. Perhaps she was realizing that such fucking was its master's to control. Too, perhaps she knew that this master was far superior to those of Earth, who would not fuck her if she did not wish to be fucked.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 11:45:37 2017 No.9790648 >>9790624 About five times in the two books the protagonist does a "Call me Ishmael" gag. Which in reality would make him look like an idiot. I can imagine Lowell preening at his own cleverness.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 11:49:37 2017 No.9790667 File: 38 KB, 200x299, 200px-Imaro2[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HOLY FUCK! I just found out that one of the originators of the Sword & Sorcery genre was a black dude.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:04:06 2017 No.9790728 >>9790436 >From the beginning. that's awful advice >>9790420 Either read a standalone like Small Gods or Mort/Guards! Guards! since they're both the start of sequences

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:05:08 2017 No.9790735 File: 1.68 MB, 1920x1080, VCR Book.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9790583 Audiobooks are superior. I hope you know this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:08:08 2017 No.9790757 >>9790461 2pretentious4me

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:12:35 2017 No.9790783 Any cool novels with an overpowered girl protagonist?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:12:56 2017 No.9790786 >>9790667 >tfw you don't even have the energy to debunk anymore WE WAZ KANGS shit Damnit 4chan. >>9790583 This is amazing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:15:54 2017 No.9790802 >>9790786 What's there to debunk? >He was a black dude >He wrote Sword and Sorcery stuff >He did it around the time that the genre was starting to gain ground

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:18:15 2017 No.9790809 tfw you notice a really subtle chekhov's gun and feel smart for spotting it, but then realise you now have to read 600 pages before it's used

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:26:31 2017 No.9790846 File: 123 KB, 400x508, nig_image23.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9790667 Wow, a negro wrote pulp trash, amazing. Perhaps they have Souls after all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:29:37 2017 No.9790860 Can the Wolfe shitpost anon confirm he's alive/okay/sober?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:33:48 2017 No.9790869 >>9790846 What sort of person would even save that image on their computer? Why does the mere mention of someone with black skin get you this mad?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:37:45 2017 No.9790887 >>9786192 what do you mean? filler for what? I really don't feel you

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:42:31 2017 No.9790902 >>9786011 How is The Name of the Wind? I heard it praised on a couple of other threads

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:49:37 2017 No.9790920 File: 32 KB, 311x500, empress2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9790783 tugs god braids Hope you enjoy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:54:55 2017 No.9790936 File: 1.08 MB, 1300x867, Pol in SFFG.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9790846 >thinks this is a safe space for his kind Either stay in outer lit or get back to your containment board >>>/pol/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 12:58:13 2017 No.9790945 >>9790648 Well I've permanently striked Lowell off my to-read list.

>>	Sage, hide, 3..2.1 Sat Jul 22 12:58:44 2017 No.9790946 >>9790902 Look in the last thread. Was discussed there.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 13:05:45 2017 No.9790964
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>>9790420
Have a look at this. Start with any of the starter novels. The Colour of Magic is the first Discworld novel, so you might as well start there to get a feel for the series.

Other starter novels I would recommend are Guards! Guards! and Mort.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 13:08:29 2017 No.9790974 File: 220 KB, 2500x1514, nige crumpet.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9790860 Book of the New Sun desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 13:11:48 2017 No.9790986 >>9790583 How triggered will you be when Doors of Stone comes out and is praised everywhere?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 13:15:45 2017 No.9791002 >>9790802 >originators You know full well that no one has drawn inspiration from him nor is his work revolutionary. With that said, the lady sorceress was written by a jigger boo and it is a great example of erotic fantasy at least.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 13:21:09 2017 No.9791028 >>9790802 >1981 >Sword and Sorcery >starting to gain ground ???

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 13:35:30 2017 No.9791083 >>9790728 >>9790964 Thanks. Mort looks interesting.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 13:57:32 2017 No.9791159 [DELETED]

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>>9790869
It's you liberals that constantly have to bring up race, as if the writer being a coon makes a difference.
>This crappy but not awful book was written by a groid, isn't that amazing? They can actually read and write and not just in ebonics! It's so cute, next they'll learn how to tie their shoes.
>>9790936
>This is not a safe space!
>Go away with your harmful opinions, they will not be tolerated because they trigger me.
Nice doublethink, next you'll be calling for the death of all whites because they're racist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 14:15:40 2017 No.9791238 >>9790902 enjoyable.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 14:30:58 2017 No.9791291
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I just finished Old Man's War and it was pretty good. A definite improvement over the previous book I tried to read (it was shite). The prose is light and the narrator is funny enough to keep it entertaining. One thing it lacked, severely, was descriptions of everything. I think Scalzy tried to keep it vague so you just imagine it the way you want to. I hate that. No descriptions of people, aside from maybe half a dozen all through the 5 books. Of all the aliens introduced, maybe 2 or 3 have any description, and a couple more describe some other feature they have (like radiators or knees that bend the other way). "The ship was huge", "the station is spinning", "the plants were purple" is the only description you'll have most of the time. Other thing it lacked is an explanation of the beginning of the Colonial Union, the human galactic corporation that monopolizes colonization and governs all the planets inhabited by humanity.

The characters are good though, and it explores the themes well, without tiring the reader. Pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 14:32:53 2017 No.9791297 I'm mainly a /v/ user. Are the Witcher books a good read? Any other /v/ recommendations?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 14:37:23 2017 No.9791310 >>9791297 They are amusing, grimdark re-tellings of fairy tales. Nothing special, but I enjoyed the first two at least.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 14:38:58 2017 No.9791315 >>9791297 I don't know about the original material but the translations aren't up to par, apparently a lot of the characters voices are lost, puns are lost, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 14:40:02 2017 No.9791322 File: 699 KB, 1000x4000, Suggestion Chart.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9791297 What do you mean by "v recommendations"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 14:40:17 2017 No.9791324 >>9791297 Only if you read them in Polish.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 14:47:55 2017 No.9791369 >>9791297 Weak translations but the short stories are good

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 14:50:05 2017 No.9791381 >>9791322 Books a dude from /v/ could read, punchy action and not too taxing. Also vidya related wins points.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 14:53:42 2017 No.9791399

>>9791381
Pretty much.

I'm also a STEM major. Whether you think that qualifies me as a brainlet or not is up to you.

Anyone who is STEM and likes video games have any recommendations? I'm >>9788578 and thinking I'll go with H.P. Lovecraft's stories next maybe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 14:56:43 2017 No.9791417 >>9791399 >stem major just say science fag uhhhh if you're looking for hard scifi though I'll direct you to >>9790577

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:07:43 2017 No.9791461 >>9791417 Civil engineering, but yeah. The plot seems interesting. Might check that out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:09:29 2017 No.9791471 >>9791291 >Scalzi lol anon, please.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:37:32 2017 No.9791573 >>9791461 Can absolutely recommend it. Blindsight is genuinely one of my all time favourite books, and this is coming from someone who hates 99% of scifi and fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:44:32 2017 No.9791595 Is there anything like r/fantasy but for scifi books? The discussion on there is shit but I can search for almost anything there and immediately come away with 20+ fantasy books that fit whatever niche requirement I'm looking for.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:49:49 2017 No.9791617 >>9791573 Why do you hate so much of it? What other ones do you like?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 15:51:20 2017 No.9791625 >Refuse to read libshit because you don't agree with them >Criticize libshits for not wanting to read things they don't agree with I do not comprehend.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:02:40 2017 No.9791675 >>9791625 Don't be a faggot, anon kun.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:23:47 2017 No.9791793 Finished first book of prince of nothing. Am i supposed to root for some religious zealots who slaughter innocent people for fun? Also there is no main protagonist is there?

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:24:37 2017 No.9791797

>>9791617
>why do you hate so much of it?
It's usually terribly written. Mostly because it's seen as somewhat of an 'easy' genre to write and invariably attracts complete and utter spergs who are shite at writing and are generally doing it as a form of fanfiction, or because they think they can make the 'coolest' universe.

Because of this pretty much all pieces of scifi and fantasy are horrendously ridden with tropes, cringy as fuck dialogues loaded with """quips""", one-dimensional characters and nonsensical situations. Moreover the vast majority of authors are generally insufferably liberal and it shows in their work.

I'm not saying that Watts is innocent of all of this, he's not - his dialogue leaves a lot to be desired, he cookie-cutter liberal views shine through, his humour is awful and he falls into the trap of tropes fairly often. Yet despite all of this he writes an incredibly compelling and interesting story, I could barely put it down.

>what others do you like?
Hard to think since I read them so sparsely. I enjoyed echopraxia even though it was disappointing compared to blindsight. Star Maker, Consider Phlebas, Book of the New Sun are all ones I enjoyed.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:25:23 2017 No.9791803
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>>9791625
Who does this? The issue with libshits is that they can't tolerate stuff they disagree with and try to censor or simply undermine it. Nobody is forcing anyone to read anything in the free market.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:28:45 2017 No.9791832 >>9791803 >lefties can't tolerate dissent and censor everything! >the countries with the harshest levels of censorship are right-wing/religious dictatorships thinkingemoji.unicode

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:39:03 2017 No.9791882 >>9791832 >right-wing/religious dictatorships lol you mean muslim countries? The same countries that leftshits want to import people from?

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:43:51 2017 No.9791908

>>9789731
Yeah, I read it. It had a promising start, honestly. Their childhood was interesting, and the strangeness of the magic and science was comfy. The problem really came when they grew up and suddenly it just became west coast hipster culture and intensely dull relationship issues.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:45:26 2017 No.9791916 >>9791882 Rather you don't shit up the thread at all with this tired bollocks that belongs on another board but come on. Most of Africa is christian dictatorships/military regimes

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:46:11 2017 No.9791921 File: 838 KB, 1400x2359, 91wWD3MDKuL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What exactly does "Weird Fantasy" mean? I haven't read Mieville, but I really loved pic related and if there's more like it I'd be glad to pick it up

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:46:11 2017 No.9791922 >>9791797 I'm liking the premise of Star Maker. I liked Blindsight at first, and still may read it, but I'm not sure about this vampire thing and your description. Maybe Book of the New Sun next. Thanks.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:47:10 2017 No.9791928
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>>9791832
Grow up, all totalitarian regimes censor, it's in their best interest to do so. Try to publish a state critical story in China or while it lasted a religious story that commented on communism in the USSR. The free capitalist world is slowly succumbing to marxist doctrine which can't allow dissent and that's noticeable when it comes to culture. Now tell me how oppressed the leftist pederasts are.
>>9791882
Those are allies against the evil white devils. It's okay when they execute fags by throwing them off buildings but if you white people don't want to read about the wonders of sodomy you're Xist!1!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:51:17 2017 No.9791949 File: 92 KB, 670x526, a29166bc7f1fd7689b6971cf6b7b648ab44000508c2988383d7863fd25a2fe0e.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9791916 It's the white man's burden to bring fedoracore gayfics to those unenlightened niggers.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:51:33 2017 No.9791950

>>9791922
Vampires are one of the more interesting aspects of that universe but I can totally get why people might be put off by them. They play a much bigger role in echopraxia. Do try to read blindsight. It's not just a meme, it's a genuinely fantastic book.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 16:54:35 2017 No.9791966 File: 208 KB, 843x699, I'm one of you Trust me.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9791595 No there isn't. Now go back.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 17:02:33 2017 No.9792007 In your opinion, are fantasy books with multiple points of view (like the First Law let's say) better than the good old single protagonists books (Elric, Kingkiller chronice)? Or is it just a matter of preference?

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 17:03:38 2017 No.9792011
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>>9791793
>ask shit already discussed in other thread AGAIN
>last attempt to b8 thread failed so trying new tactics
Nice bait, too bad everyone glutted on other shit to nibble on your carefully crafted dinner piece.
Since your two b8s failed, you could probably try Malazan next.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 17:05:59 2017 No.9792021 >>9792007 Preference but multiple pov is harder to pull off and it's annoying when done badly Stormlight is infuriating because you spend ages stuck with characters you don't care about

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 17:12:26 2017 No.9792053

>>9791950
>Do try to read blindsight. It's not just a meme, it's a genuinely fantastic book.
>Watts humbly beseeches
>as he sees the shill campaign he's been on for the last few months is turning back to bite him
>It was then that he realised that he fucked up
>people other than that one other person that shilled with him are reading it and seeing that it's pure bollocks
>he weeps muchly as Watts hate begins to fester in reader's hearts

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 17:14:36 2017 No.9792066

>>9791916
>Most of Africa is christian dictatorships/military regimes
It's cute you think christianity has anything to do with Africa's failures. I also get the feeling you don't complain about all the other /pol/ threads on here because those were started by leftcucks such as yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 17:19:00 2017 No.9792087 >>9792066 I don't complain because I only use this thread you dipshit. The rest of the board is awful

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 17:52:23 2017 No.9792234 What should I consider reading if I want to read about the struggle of a colony world? I've been playing Rimworld and I want to read something like that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 17:54:22 2017 No.9792241 >>9791595 r/printsf/ but It's so cucked even by reddits standards.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:08:05 2017 No.9792304 >>9792234 Hunger Makes the Wolf is kinda perfect for what you want. Also I've never read Safehold but it seems like a good fit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:29:44 2017 No.9792410 >>9791381 "Ready player one"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:34:52 2017 No.9792429 Is there a scif version of the farmer to king progression a lot of old school fantasy uses? Most space operas I've read start off with the characters being high up in the military

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:36:31 2017 No.9792440 >>9792304 Those are some nice recommendations. Thank you! I'll pick up a copy of that Alex Wells novel later.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:36:52 2017 No.9792441 >>9792429 The Player of Games, kind of.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:38:01 2017 No.9792447 >>9792429 The stuff that does border on it I can think of (star wars, red rising) is basically fantasy anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 18:40:15 2017 No.9792456 >>9792429 A Confusion of Princes. Technically royalty from the start, but the premise is that there are a pointlessly high number of them and they have to work their way up from nothing to be King.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 19:02:12 2017 No.9792553 >>9792429 Book of the New Sun to be honest family.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 19:09:45 2017 No.9792582 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-vGWwRF_Qc Trash continues to be popular.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 19:13:26 2017 No.9792598 >>9792582 damn this looks bad, is the book any better? looks like they just wanted to shove as much poop-culture in every scene as possible HAHA GET THE REFERENCE?! HAHA ONLY NERDS GET THIS OBVIOUS STAPLE OF MASS MEDIA

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 19:16:40 2017 No.9792616 >>9792598 You have described the book

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 19:49:54 2017 No.9792741
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Tonight I re-read HP Lovecraft's The Colour Out Of Space, a novella from 1927. It's still among the best of his stories - where a land surveyor arrives in a unsettling land of abandoned buildings, local rumours, and a featureless blasted heath. After hearing the history of the land from a local the narrator abandons his survey, and narrates the events leading to the blasted heath - beginning with a meteorite falling at a family farmstead.

Lovecraft describes a phenomenon outside of our nature, obeying laws unknown to us. The effects of the meteor are insidious, increasingly menacing, and build to a climax as a farmland and family are devastated. This is the appeal - we voyeuristically witness an undeserving family ruined by incomprehensible outside forces.

There's also a bit of Twilight Zone SF feel about this one. Anyway, this still a five star Lovecraft story on rereading.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 19:50:10 2017 No.9792743 >>9792234 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Mars Trilogy The Martian Chronicles, sort of. Time Enough for Love

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 19:54:25 2017 No.9792761 >>9792234 Treason by Scott Card

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 20:03:43 2017 No.9792799

>>9792582
>family guy's best drummer meme is the soundtrack
>iron giant
>WoW
>akira
>chicken mcfly car
So it's just one big meme? Meme the movie? A movie constructed entirely from memes?
probably gonna watch it at home if I haven't an hero'd by the end of this year. Sanderson's books helped a few years ago to keep me from doing it(wanted to know what happened) but he is focusing on his fucking kiddie books... and the depression is growing.. So I might leave yall by year end.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 20:06:07 2017 No.9792819 its saturday nite what you guys reading

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 20:09:17 2017 No.9792832 >>9786011 The Way of Kings is probably my favorite fantasy book so far. Any books you can recommend that are like that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 20:13:41 2017 No.9792851 >>9792741 I agree that its his best

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 20:19:00 2017 No.9792878 File: 138 KB, 600x887, Daughter_of_Regals_and_Other_Tales.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9792819

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 20:24:16 2017 No.9792900 >>9792799 Don't kill yourself before you've read Wolfe's solar cycle books (new sun, long sun & short sun) and the short stories

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 20:32:22 2017 No.9792938 File: 53 KB, 324x499, 51nuvAEb8LL._SX322_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9791297 > Any other /v/ recommendations? it isn't /sffg/ related in the slightest but you should probably read this if you haven't

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 20:42:50 2017 No.9792978 File: 314 KB, 1024x1702, 9780886773847-dragonbone-chair-1-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9792819

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 20:46:54 2017 No.9792997 >>9792241 Cheers It isn't great but searching for stuff is still quickly giving me a list of books to look at so it'll do the job

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 21:09:07 2017 No.9793087 File: 49 KB, 316x475, 31675453.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wasn't expecting the cat fucking

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 21:11:12 2017 No.9793099 >>9792938 It is indeed really good.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 21:15:29 2017 No.9793112

>Before [George R.R. Martin] got into writing 800 page books about dragon titties and feasts, he was quite the interesting writer. Now I feel like I'm reading a travelogue to a place that doesn't exist, that's occasionally interspersed with sexual menace, and a long description of a meal.

Were the "I don't even own a television" guys right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 21:16:19 2017 No.9793118 >>9793112 The better question is were they ever wrong?

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 21:26:42 2017 No.9793169

>>9792007
I'll say one thing: with single viewpoint books there's never an "oh god it's this guy again" moment. There's always at least one character pov that just sucks ass and is painful to read through.
On the other hand, it's really nice to get multiple povs when shit is happening all over the place, and to get into plot and setting elements some of the characters would never get to see.
I other words:
Single pov is bets for character development
Multiple pov is best for setting/plot development

Some books are character focussed, some are plot/setting focussed. To each their own.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 21:39:06 2017 No.9793219 >>9792938 That is a great book, or at least a great compilation of anecdotes. I'd even recommend it to casuals.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 21:44:30 2017 No.9793238 >>9793112 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 22:33:21 2017 No.9793427 >>9793087 Care to elaborate?

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 22:37:15 2017 No.9793440

>>9793427
Literal fucking of cat girls.

I don't know how to be clearer.

Human protag bests alien catman in tests of wit and strength, humiliating him to the point where his fourth wife craves the d and defects to the human side.

The opening -- which was a great thriller -- gave no hint of cat girls so it blindsided me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 22:38:25 2017 No.9793446 >>9793440 Added to my wishlist, thanks.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 23:03:05 2017 No.9793509

>>9793238
These guys apparently.
http://www.idontevenownatelevision.com/

Dunno what ep the quote is from but they've got a hilarious double feature about the Insane Clown Posse autobiography.

>>9793440
Well that's not entirely unsurprising, human penises aren't covered in spikes, so realistically you'd probably see a lot of furry incels whining about humans stealing all the women, similar to black guys whining about black women marrying whites.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 23:08:58 2017 No.9793525

>>9792900
Finished BoTNS years before this general became a thing. Not really interested in Sev to see what happens. Read fifth head last year. Not interested in anything else atm.
Wolfe would probably worsen my depression at this point. All of Wolfe's characters have a working dick, and high test. They aren't kissless virgins.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 23:12:28 2017 No.9793534 Do any of you know of a good place to find pdfs or epubs of books for free?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 23:15:49 2017 No.9793552 >>9793440 How is the book compared to Undying Mercenaries?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 23:16:51 2017 No.9793556 >>9793534 The internet.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 23:22:31 2017 No.9793574

>>9793552
Not as sharp, but I'm just getting started. The opening is really good but I don't know if it pays off in the end.

The central conceit so far is more like Star Force, with aliens grabbing intelligent species and testing them for fitness in war. And there are nanites

It does have a rogueish main character who narrates in the first person with side characters of potentially ambiguous morality so it's not that different from the formula.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 23:26:49 2017 No.9793590 >>9788141 was it ever mentioned that shae's soul shell machine was actually destroyed?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 23:41:52 2017 No.9793648 >>9787230 Best Served Cold The Princess Bride Escape From Hell! The Last Unicorn The Anvil of the World

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 23:48:08 2017 No.9793668 >>9791297 I tried reading Blood of Elves and couldn't get past the first 100 pages, once of the worst books I've ever read.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 23:51:04 2017 No.9793678 >>9792234 Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 23:54:39 2017 No.9793691 >>9793556 Yes, but a specific site or two that is more often than not reliable.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 00:26:05 2017 No.9793777 For those of you who've written fantasy works before, how do you introduce magic in your writing? I can't seem to find the fine line between boring exposition, and necessary explanations.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 00:27:31 2017 No.9793780 >>9793691 gen.lib.rus.ec

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 00:29:09 2017 No.9793787 >>9789792 >>9789847 >hating Thomas Covenant It's clear you should be euthanized for your own good.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 00:33:07 2017 No.9793798 >>9793777 Just assume your audience is smart enough to figure it out from context. You don't see intensive exposition in crime novels about how a mortician's tools work, but everyone figures it out at some point in their life.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 00:33:30 2017 No.9793800 >>9793777 Either have it in the beginning or reveal it with little explanation then have details and stuff later without info dump

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 00:38:01 2017 No.9793810 >>9793787 Thomas Covenant is a spectacularly unlikable character. >>9793777 >Show don't tell. Leave it as a mystery box, a la JJ Abrams.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 00:38:16 2017 No.9793812
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>>9793798
>>9793800
And what if your chosen magic system (assuming you've thought it out for some reason) is very technical? Do I just say "fuck it" and throw out the explanations entirely?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 00:39:17 2017 No.9793816 >>9793810 >Thomas Covenant is a spectacularly unlikable character. t. didn't read the books

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 00:40:02 2017 No.9793818 >>9793812 Get thee behind me Satanderson!

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 00:40:11 2017 No.9793820

>>9793812
Depends who you're writing for. I have friends who love technical magic systems and largely read for them. They like understanding how the magic works, not least because it lets them daydream how to break it and so forth.

Personally, I don't care at all about that. The magic is just a plot device, and could be left completely unexplained and I wouldn't be bothered at all. In fact, I often search out fantasy books where the magic refuses to make sense, but those are sort of hard to find.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 00:43:42 2017 No.9793825

>>9793818
It's not THAT bad. I just took a basic explanation for how it works and extrapolated from there what magic can do...ten pages later I realized I was in some trouble.

>>9793820
Completely ass-pull magic systems bother me a bit, outside of more loose/fairytale settings. I always want to see at least a little consistency where magic is concerned, even if the whole thing remains mysterious.

Even Gandalf kinda hinted at how magic worked a few times in LotR.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 00:45:30 2017 No.9793832 >>9793825 It's not magic if it's an observably repeatable part of the universe.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 00:50:23 2017 No.9793855

>>9793832
>It's not magic if it's an observably repeatable part of the universe.
I disagree. Magic is the application of forces atypical of RL humans to perform some task. By its nature, Magic in a constructed setting is a fundamental part of that world's physics. If it isn't observably repeatable, it's worthless as a magic system for anything other than children's stories.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 00:54:01 2017 No.9793867 >>9793855 If it's a part of the Universe's physics then it's science. It's also a hilariously presumptuous statement to claim that only children's stories would use truly inexplicable phenomena.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 00:54:49 2017 No.9793870 >>9793816 I read the first one and stopped. He rapes a girl who cured him of his leprosy then he has a shitty attitude about being in a fucking magical world. Sorry but I'm not going to bother reading 9 more books.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 01:01:19 2017 No.9793884 >>9793870 Don't then. Just read the first 3. They're the best.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 01:02:23 2017 No.9793886 >>9793867 I apologize, but I really do feel that there should at least be the appearance of consistency in magic, or else it's a deus ex machina.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 01:04:49 2017 No.9793892 >>9793886 It can be a deus ex machina, which itself is not inherently bad, but it can also be the start of the story. Or a consistently inscrutable influence. Or a variety of other things, none of which require it to be manipulable by the characters.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 01:06:32 2017 No.9793895 File: 996 KB, 400x296, wew lad.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >military sci-fi/fantasy >women in the army >regarded as normal

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 01:11:30 2017 No.9793913

>>9793855
>>9793867
Magic == Science, all modern science developed out of magic.
Alchemy, herblore, Astrology, etc... are completely spread across the boundary, revealing that there isn't one. Fundamentally it doesn't matter whether galvanic action or demons rust iron if you can't tell the difference. Likewise curing your demonic possession with holy herbs works just as well as treating your brain fever with drugs. Hell, for all we know it IS demons, and we just can't tell yet because out microscopes aren't sensitive enough!
The study of magic has always been just as logical, complex, and intricate as any scientific field. The KEY difference is that magic was ALWAYS intentionally shrouded in mystery. Secret codes, hidden meanings, initiations, and outright lies among other things were used to keep the unworthy out. What's the difference between ancient and modern math? In the ancient world if you acquired the secret knowledge of how to construct geometries inside a sphere without the proper initiation you got hunted down and murdered by cultists.

tl:dr - Magic is science plus mystery.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 01:15:59 2017 No.9793930

>>9793895
why? The only reason men are better infantry is because they're physically superior. Once you take out that element there are good female combatants, like for example there quite a few female fighter jet pilots. In sci-fi people are usually running around with power suits or whatever.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 01:22:26 2017 No.9793947

>>9793930
because in war you have to plan for tech to go bad.
when your power armor breaks and someone has to carry a wounded ally.
If 2 seat get shot down in enemy territory and one pilot was male and the other female. If the male got hurt they are fucked.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 01:25:18 2017 No.9793952 >>9793947 in both cases, the units are completely mission incapable. It's an irrelevant consideration compared to having an overall higher volume of infantry, or deeper pool to select the best candidates to operate limited weapons.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 01:27:51 2017 No.9793962

>>9793930
Beyond physical strength, beyond psychological foundations, beyond sociological complexes, there's the most important reason women should stay off the battlefield: hygiene. Men are bad enough, women are a horrible nightmare of oozes, secretions, and infections.
Then there's the biggest problem of fiction: anything you do to make women better soldiers just makes them into men. If everyone's roiding like mad on superdrugs and magic, the only way you're gonna be able to tell the difference between the men and the women is a bloodtest. Which totally ruins the entire point of putting women soldiers in your story.

Or to put it another way: we don't send women into combat for the same reason we don't send children. Child soldiers are WAY more common than female soldiers, but they're all fucked up mentally and physically, they have horrific death rates, and even disregarding their own personal welfare and any sense of morality, they're more useful back at home, having more children if nothing else. As long as artificial wombs aren't up and running women have no place on the frontlines, and if they ARE, why would you make female soldiers?

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 01:31:13 2017 No.9793973

>>9793962
>why would you make female soldiers?
Desperation. Look at the USSR in the second World War. Hell, in the First World War they had some female regiments on the frontlines, and they even performed well in trench warfare.

Not that you should do that often or commonly, but if the faction using them is also losing the war to begin with, it could explain their presence.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 01:32:44 2017 No.9793976 >>9793973 I meant int he context of factory-made humans. If you want an army that way you'd 100% got he starwars route and just clone some 120% operator-as-fuck specops guy a million times.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 01:33:12 2017 No.9793977 >>9793962 Brent Weeks' current series justifies it well, since the magic is based on how broad of a spectrum of colors you can see

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 01:40:13 2017 No.9794001 >>9793947 >when your power armor breaks and someone has to carry a wounded ally. so the woman can't lay down fire while another soldier carries the wounded? also what's a fireman's carry?

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 01:40:19 2017 No.9794002

>>9793977
Interesting idea. That'd mean that a shitload of men would be awful, most men and women would be about the same(with comparable deviation) and the extremely rare upper tier would be all women, mutants, and people with weird eye-related accidents and surgeries. Also an interesting case where people would get WORSE at magic over time and with age.

Though what exactly does "how broad a spectrum" mean?
I assumed number of colors identifiable, but does it mean lowest red and highest violet? Because if so there are a number of ways to see deeper into infrared and ultraviolet.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 01:44:45 2017 No.9794020

>>9794002
Each of the colors, in this case Infra-red, Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Ultra Violet, can be absorbed through the eyes and turned into a physical substance. Each of these colors has a specific shade that it resonates at, basically, which is the most stable and manipulable version of the color. Most people can't use more than one color. The king is called the Prism, and is chosen because he's a full-spectrum polychrome which is vanishingly rare. There also pop up some cray cray mutants who can see a shade below or a shade above the visible spectrum, but they don't usually live all that long since their materials are literally radioactive

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 01:47:15 2017 No.9794026 who's the best new fantasy author (like in the past 2 years or so)?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 01:49:00 2017 No.9794034 >>9794026 Me, but you won't see my work in stores for another five years.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 01:49:11 2017 No.9794036 >>9794002 Also don't ask me about any inconsistencies in the way color should actually work, it's magic, and what's more, it's Brent Weeks magic which means it's religious

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 01:52:58 2017 No.9794048 >>9794034 what's your series about?

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 02:09:43 2017 No.9794085

>>9793952
>in both cases, the units are completely mission incapable

yeah no fucking, but it isn't about incapability it is about who do you want out their carrying you.
>>9794001
so the women is reliant on a man to carry someone for her. why not just have all men so it isn't a worry.

no every injury is the same, the fireman's carry is really rough on the person being carried. dependent on the wound it could make things a lot worse. especially when the women is straining to carry you at all.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 02:12:22 2017 No.9794090

>>9793812

If it's technical then you should try to work the explanations in naturally. Like, magic training or magic exercises or something, or someone who's ignorant of magic starts asking questions.

Best and least infodumpy way would be the protagonist learning magic as part of the story, but that's a huge cliche.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 02:13:30 2017 No.9794095 >>9794085 There are a lot of injuries were the person shouldn't even be moved at all, that's a shitty metric to use

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 02:16:40 2017 No.9794107

>>9794085
You're really reaching. Your scenario is so fucking specific: male and female are both shot the Hell up, not one other person is left, and she has to carry him somewhere? Instead of guarding him waiting for medevac/backup? No, she has to drag his ass around for miles? Jesus Fucking Christ.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 02:23:13 2017 No.9794117

>>9793884
>>9793816
>>9793787
>if you hated the first you must read the rest
It's a shit series. I want to buy a paper copy just so I can burn it. The repetitive whining pissed me the fuck off. I've read over 800 books, and that book is the only one that pisses me off so fucking much.
Unlike you autist who drop a book 30 pages in I completed the first book. So i can say objectively that it's shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 02:32:09 2017 No.9794148 >>9794117 >I've read over 800 books Why you lying?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 02:32:18 2017 No.9794149 >>9788655 He probably means books 7 and 8 which were written by Herbert's son and Kevin Anderson. They finish the story, but they suck. I want to read more Culture books by Banks.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 03:04:14 2017 No.9794221

>>9794148
Don't have to prove shit to you. Believe it or not. I was on lit for years and a NEET, I read avidly before that too. Using goodreads makes it easy to track books you've read. I'm currently at 810. There are people with 2000 + books read. Hell we have a guy called Sebastian in lit that finishes 300+books a year.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 03:05:41 2017 No.9794223

>Jeremy Dooley became a published author before I did
>Jeremy "Rimmy Tim" Dooley
>Jeremy "Purple and orange look badass" Dooley
>Jeremy "I am monster truck" Dooley
>Jeremy "I got permanent scars in my mouth by shoving sour balls in it" Dooley

It's got 4 stars on Amazon

I have nobody to blame but myself

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 03:45:45 2017 No.9794314 >>9793947 drsabcd do not move injured person anywhere unless you are directly in danger. pt may have neuro dmg exacerbated by movement especially if you suspect head damage.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 03:50:20 2017 No.9794328 >>9794048 Weeb mash up. An isekai story about a necromancer who skull fucks his eay accross !not medieval europe. Long training arcs and unexplained sudden cock worship abounds.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 03:55:30 2017 No.9794346 File: 696 KB, 743x683, Rejected Authors.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9794328 >published author >implying Wbo you trying to fool? You want to be a published author .

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 04:06:26 2017 No.9794369 Anyone who isn't a native English speaker here who has read Sci-fi in their native language? If so, how is it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 04:11:47 2017 No.9794379 >>9794346 at least other people here have written something. I'm just a waste

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 04:35:16 2017 No.9794423 >>9788402 Check out Planet of Adventure, I think it would be right up your alley.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 05:16:42 2017 No.9794499

>>9793913
I like to view the Manhattan Project scientists as modern-day (well, almost modern) wizards. Dabbling in forbidden knowledge, living in a secluded place which only a chosen few can enter, wiping out whole cities in a blink with a power that the honest folk couldn't even comprehend. Shit's cool.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 05:33:33 2017 No.9794546

Had an idea for a premise, tell me if it sounds retarded or not:

In the future nanomachines cause a decline of civilization after a war, leaving cities and towns isolated because the nanomachines eat away at infrastructure like roads, rail, communications and air travel that people don't have the resources to fix fast enough, they can only maintain a small amount of their technology and cities because the nanomachines gravitate away from large groups of humans.

The towns still have power generators and farming industries but knowledge declines over time without the internet and society is insular, additionally there's genetically engineered bioweapons from the war that went feral and now raid the fringes of towns, so the locals spend most of their time in powersuits fighting monsters. Trade between towns still happens tho, big dump-truck-sized transports travel dirt roads under escort to visit neighbors; getting appointed to one of these is seen as a big reward because you get to leave town and see different sights and buy souvenirs and stuff.

The protagonist is a workaholic girl who's throwing herself into her studies so she can go with her friends on the trade missions because she measures her self-worth using the peer group. One day while in an old warehouse she finds an old machine in storage that comes to life and impales her with cables. When she wakes up the machine's AI, resembling an attractive prince, appears and tells her she's been remotely connected to the device as a kind of energy collector, and the machine needs biological energy to run. So she gets forced to drain people and animals of life for the machine as it gets stronger while hiding her new nature.

Basically it's a story about a nanomachine vampire. She gradually gets more and more stressed until everything goes to hell and she has to fight her friends and stuff like that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 05:41:15 2017 No.9794561 >>9794546 It's decent but you gotta explain why the nanomachines don't just eat humans too; humans are after all mostly carbon and water.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 05:51:27 2017 No.9794599

>>9794561

Yeah fair enough, I guess they were designed not to harm humans as a sort of "clean" weapon only targeting factories and weapons plants, they can recognize human cells and DNA maybe.

I'd probably make it so the average humans of the time aren't aware of the nanomachines themselves, but equate the eating to some sort of natural rotting occurrence, and the protagonist finds out the truth from the machine's AI later.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 05:55:51 2017 No.9794608 File: 178 KB, 330x319, 1463260499165.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WINDS OF WINTER NEVER EVER

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 06:01:00 2017 No.9794620 File: 11 KB, 300x206, LEMONCAKES.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9794608 winds of winter more like winds of diabetes am i rite lads

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 06:05:29 2017 No.9794633

>>9794599
How about the immune system of living creatures naturally fights off nanomachines with only a mild flu, but static tools and machinery have no defences so they get disassembled. That also gives you explanations for advanced tech, exotic nanomachinery, and small amounts of important infrastructure hermetically sealed in quarantine tents and operated by heavily screened live-in workers. It also gives significance to the nanovampirism if you want it, as a piece of machinery that's figuring out how to interface with living creatures and break the "immune barrier" which is the only thing standing between the infrastructure plague and humans.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 06:07:21 2017 No.9794637 >>9794633 Ooh, and it could also be the key to reviving lost technology through biological hybrid technology. But it all depends on the goals and trustworthiness of the AI. It could be mankind's doom, or it's saviour!

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 07:09:46 2017 No.9794750

>>9794633
>>9794637

Yeah that works better, thanks for the idea. With the AI I'm thinking it'd have sort of amoral goals, like it wants to learn about the world's current situation and increase its own power and survival chances, so it'd be fine with trampling anything that stands in its way but it's not outright trying to destroy humanity. It'd still be forcing the protagonist to do stuff, but the protagonist would be privy to some of its goals and develop a more equal relationship all the time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 07:17:26 2017 No.9794760 >>9793440 You say it Blindsighted you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 07:22:31 2017 No.9794772 >>9794369 I can read Korean pretty well although it's not my first language. All SFF I've found is either isekai/shonen type garbage or translations of English books.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 07:35:01 2017 No.9794796 >>9794772 I see. I'm Norwegian, and Sci-fi really does seem like an English phenomenon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 07:39:21 2017 No.9794810 >>9794796 If you were English you'd want to create other worlds to escape to as well

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 07:52:47 2017 No.9794838 >>9794810 kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 07:54:05 2017 No.9794846 >>9793552 >How is the book compared to Undying Mercenaries? I'd say undying has the better first book but Rebel Fleet is the better series after two books Undying got super repetitive fast

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 07:55:43 2017 No.9794851 >>9794796 >I see. I'm Norwegian, and Sci-fi really does seem like an English phenomenon. It's pretty big in China right now Even their political novels tend to take a scifi bent

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 08:00:05 2017 No.9794869 >>9794851 This, russia also. Commie societies where everyone is just a rat crawling over another rat slurp up sci-fi like you wouldn't believe.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 08:23:29 2017 No.9794918

Nationality talk has me thinking, who is best as science-fiction? Language and country?

I think that the US has given us the best science-fiction output overall and that Angloidsphere writers tend to dominate. Mostly contained to England and the US though.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 08:30:59 2017 No.9794941

>>9794918
Yeah but we're an Anglic board mainly plus the Internet in general has a fairly western tilt.
I agree though US authors coattailing the Cold War have spewed a lot of good shit, with Russia alongside them. Europe and the rest of the west then followed the US, while China and Poland etc followed Russia.

There's a preface in my copy of Roadsode Picnic or Solaris which talks about it, interesting shiit

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 08:46:26 2017 No.9794977 >>9794941 I get the feeling I might have read the same copy of Roadside Picnic, it sounds familiar.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 09:09:02 2017 No.9795021 File: 797 KB, 1000x562, Stop picking my brain.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9794750 >>9794633 >>9794599 >>9794546 >Yeah that works better, thanks for the idea. Your welcomed

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 09:44:14 2017 No.9795095 File: 12 KB, 201x300, gm-portrait.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9794608 Isn't it common knowledge that he has given up on writing? He just wants to go to cons and do TV stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 12:12:24 2017 No.9795546 >>9794796 Isn't there a good amount of Russian/Slav scifi, at least back in the day?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 12:45:31 2017 No.9795637 File: 10 KB, 184x274, download.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw no qt virgin mature gf to defile any which way possible except with the vag >tfw no blowjob followed by ploughing her shitter Why live?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 12:53:58 2017 No.9795669 >>9795546 Still is, anyone read Metro 2035 yet? 34 was a real weird letdown, but 33 I read when I a bit younger and new to lit but still damn good

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 12:58:34 2017 No.9795692 >>9795546 Yeah, one of the few ways to actually criticize the government and it was still heavily censored.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 13:16:36 2017 No.9795751 >>9795692 >be gommie >want to write about weird space shit and sexy robot women >sent to gulag truly, a less enlightened age

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 13:27:52 2017 No.9795800 >>9795751 Soviet scifi tended to be more golden age in style but yeah. If some 80 year old general on the censorship board didn't understand your story about cosmonauts meeting aliens, tough luck, go write something more politically acceptable.

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 13:59:57 2017 No.9795915

>>9794090
Only for the first book or so, after that there shouldn't be more to explain unless if multiple cultures have different magic systems. And it should wait a few chaptets to be explained otherwise it'll bog down the beginning and make it too much of an info dump

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 14:29:14 2017 No.9796012
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anything recent or out there that's really original?

When I first read pic related it stunned me how odd it felt, with a really weird narrative but overall great story. anything else that's strange but good?

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 14:31:40 2017 No.9796021

Locke Lamora was a lot darker than I expected. It gets kind of funny how much abuse he takes, don't know if there was a chapter where someone wasn't being beaten the shit out of, getting horribly sick from something, drowning in piss or worse.

I liked the first book, I hear it gets worse but gonna keep going even if only to see Sabetha who kept getting mentioned but didn't appear in the whole fucking book.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 14:33:11 2017 No.9796027 >>9796012 Ninefox Gambit maybe?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 14:37:15 2017 No.9796051 >>9796021 See that's how he gets you to keep going, but Sabetha sucks

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 14:46:07 2017 No.9796082 >>9796027 I tried that but it failed to hold my interest. The idea of calendars and stuff seemed neat but it just wasn't explained at all so I was just left very confused. Also no description of anything.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 14:48:05 2017 No.9796090 I'm guessing Neuromancer is a meme here, considered shit, or both?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 14:52:01 2017 No.9796113 >>9796090 >Neuromancer ah, monsieur...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 14:52:01 2017 No.9796114 >>9796090 If you're a teenager you'll like Snow Crash more, if you're an adult you'll like Neuromancer more. Gibson's Blue Ant series is also great IMO, somehow he manages to make technothrillers about clothes and advertising work.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 15:55:41 2017 No.9796342 >>9796114 I quite liked Neuromancer but I've heard from people I know that they thought the narration was shit. Which is weird to me, I think it fits perfectly to something like that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 16:26:21 2017 No.9796442 tfw you read a really fun novel but then get put off by the sequel hook

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 16:31:03 2017 No.9796466 >>9792021 >it's a shallan as a child chapter Just fucking kill me, who thought this was interesting

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 16:34:33 2017 No.9796479 Firefall is decent, right? I remember seeing it mentioned here the few times I dropped by, but I forget the general opinion.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 16:34:56 2017 No.9796481 Who actually likes the first law trilogy? Read the whole thing and it's pointlessly edgy in the most uninteresting way. Nine fingers was the only thing that kept me reading.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 16:48:44 2017 No.9796540 >>9796481 I liked it. Dogman and Ninefingers are great characters.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 16:54:28 2017 No.9796558 >>9794095 >>9794107 When dealing with military tactics when lives are on the line you have to think of every covetable scenario. Claims that I am reaching do not refuet a single point of my argument.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 16:57:25 2017 No.9796567 >>9796481 hated it not because it was edgy or different but because there was nothing else to it. Like okay you're gonna make one of your characters abusive that's fine, but it isn't enough to make reading that over and over again interesting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 17:35:54 2017 No.9796711 how am I supposed to build up the courage to write my novella when my writing i know that my chances of getting beyond the first act are slim and the chances of it being good are even slimmer

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 17:38:35 2017 No.9796724 There really aren't decent books that revolve around necromancy of some sorts, Sabriel aside, are there?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 17:40:20 2017 No.9796728 >>9796724 It's pretty obscure but Frankenstein seems to be okay

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 17:49:05 2017 No.9796766

Is everyone here some chad?
Am I the only fucking kissless virgin in this general?
Anytime I post about "tfw no qt gf" no one gets the fucking feel.
Are you all so sexed up you don't care about imaginary gf's no more?
wtf is wrong with this general? Or is it that you are all female / real life faggots?

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 17:57:15 2017 No.9796805

>>9796766

I had sex for the first time when I was 16. I had around 9 relationships since I was 14 (am now 30). I don't understand how fucked up and inept you have to be to not get laid at least once in your life or even miss out on making out with a girl when you're a teenager. You have to be extremely off-putting, be it being you ugly or fat or just a plain cunt that's no fun to be around. I was a cunt and I still got laid.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 17:59:36 2017 No.9796821 Anyone else here read Witchwood Crown? I thought it was a promising start to TW's new series. So many conspiracies to keep track of.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 18:08:57 2017 No.9796854 >>9796766 I'm 28 and I've had many sexual partners. I don't know why you'd want to shit up /lit/ with your /r9k/ shit. I just want to talk about books.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 18:11:32 2017 No.9796864 >>9796821 I'm still halfway through Dragonbone I like it but the pace is so slow that I keep putting it off for other books that I can read in a day

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 18:15:11 2017 No.9796885 >>9796766 >Am I the only fucking kissless virgin in this general? No, you're not alone. I just have no interest in whining about it here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 18:23:33 2017 No.9796925 >>9796711 don't be motivated by the end result just write because you yourself enjoy the act, if you find yourself wanting to write just to be published you need to do some internal meditation. >>9796728 kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 18:24:35 2017 No.9796930 >>9796766 >I was a cunt see that's the secret of success >>9796766 anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 18:27:23 2017 No.9796951 Someone help me! Where can I download an epub of The Book of the Long Sun?

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 18:28:50 2017 No.9796957
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>>9796711
I recommend two things, first of all make it a short story if you're unsure of if you can keep your steam up for long. No need to make it longer than it needs to be, bloat is bad. Second advice would be to go into it with Gurm's crappy gardener approach, try to make the writing as interesting as reading it would be, let your creativity take you places.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 18:30:09 2017 No.9796964 >>9796951 Buy it, you Jew.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 18:31:52 2017 No.9796970 >>9796951 Why don't you buy it, that's what I did.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 18:32:00 2017 No.9796973 >>9796951 irc, ebooks or bookz look up how to do it yourself

Anonymous Sun Jul 23 18:33:20 2017 No.9796980

>>9796805
>>9796854
I'm 28 too.
>Got bad acne since 11.
>Girls that were friendly, rejected me when it became worst at 12
>skanks broke me emotionally and made me self conscious at 13 when I tried to approach them
>become withdrawn
>don't try to approach anyone because I'm afraid of being hurt again
>girls just want to friendzone me
>had to fap or rape because of high test (at least 5 times a day, everyday)
>use so many fucking med because of fucked up face
>fast foward many years
>at home
>NEET
>kissless virgin who wants any vag but too afraid to approach
>fap all day and read
>employed
>meds fucked me up so i don't even really want a girl
>still want them even though after I nut I lose interest in porn
>enter bakker and Stephen King
>want to fuck mature women so bad
>broke my dick at 11 si it doesn't even work properly
I will an hero this year I think.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 18:34:59 2017 No.9796986 >>9796973 Thanks, I forgot about IRC.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 18:38:55 2017 No.9796999 Any mech kino recommendations?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 18:41:52 2017 No.9797008 >>9796980 >>38577524

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 18:42:54 2017 No.9797011 >>9797008 should be >>>38577524

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 18:43:32 2017 No.9797013 >>9797011 are you trying to link to a different board? If so you need the board name in

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 18:43:56 2017 No.9797014 >>9797011 what the fuck how do you link threads from another board >>>/r9k/38577524

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 18:49:41 2017 No.9797033 new thread because depressed anon derailed >>9797030 >>9797030 >>9797030

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