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9735781 No.9735781 [Reply] [Original]

How do I deal with having a higher IQ than 99.9 percent of people, /lit/?

Serious question. When turbo low IQ types socialise they do so about pleb things like television, football, and the works of other plebeian folks. I don't participate in any of these things so I can't relate to them, or other people.

I can't make friends because I'm too clever for them, and even when I'm not trying to do so, I outshine them and they hate me for it.
I mean, I still get laid... but afterwards I usually call the chick stupid and never speak to her again, or insult her in some way because I don't like stupid people.

This is /lit/ related because I read at least a book a day, and have done for the past 8 years.

How do I deal with drongos?
How do I stop being too smart?

>> No.9735809

>>9735781
>posts frog
>claims to get laid

sage and report

>> No.9735820
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9735820

>>9735809
What's so bad about frog?

I think it's highly artistic. It is alluring in a strange way.

>> No.9735843
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9735843

I guess I'm alone after all

>> No.9735852

>>9735820
*autistic

>> No.9735858

>>9735781
If you were really smart, you could, at least, pretend to be like a normal person and then you wouldn't do a shit thread like this one.
Retard.

>> No.9735860

>>9735858
No but I'm too passionate and morally intact to "pretend"

I can't pretend. I prefer to keep my integrity intact.

>> No.9735865

I assume you're a member of Mensa, speak to people on Mensa chatrooms or local meetups. As for normies fuck em, you're above their plebeian pursuits and need not waste time speaking to such trash. In reality, you're never gonna come across a woman on your level so either make do with hoes or spent your life in search of the illusive soulmate.

>> No.9735867

>>9735865
I don't care about women

>> No.9735869

>>9735858
That's silly, that would be akin to asking a Lion to graze like a gazelle, it won't happen and nor should it.

>> No.9735875

>>9735781
So, how does it feel to be clever? Where do you notice any difference ?

>> No.9735876

>>9735867
Good, they're a waste of time and energy as far as I can tell.

>> No.9735879

>>9735860
So go live your life like an hermit.

>> No.9735883

>>9735879
No that doesn't sound right.

>> No.9735894

>>9735869
What a terrible analogy. We are all fucking apes. Smart people are flexible, adjust themselves in every ambient.

>> No.9735898

>>9735894
Smart people shouldn't need to make themselves worse in order to 'adapt'. If they are smart, they will find another way around it.

>> No.9735900

>>9735883
So hunt down people with the same interests.
Or stay shitposting here.

>> No.9735901

>>9735875
I read in between the lines of every interaction and find it easy to manoeuvre myself into a better position, though I do not do this since I find it inauthentic

>>9735879
I do, sometimes, but I don't think this is a good thing

>>9735894
Adjusting yourself is to allow yourself to be corrupted
I am not corrupted and refuse to bend for anything

>> No.9735907

>>9735898
There is no other way around it
>For nonconformity the world whips you with its displeasure

>> No.9735916

>>9735894
Are you fucking retarded anon? In this case it is a perfect analogy, OP is clearly superior to his competitors, he's conquered all of his peers, why would he need to stoop to their level just to delight in their plebeian tastes?

>> No.9735926

>>9735894
A Homo Sapien wouldn't adapt to the life of a chimpanzee, would it?

>> No.9735931

>>9735901
>>9735898
Well, in society is very difficult to be yourself (assuming you are intellectually superior than anyone) and get the results.
I think the easier way to get what you want from stupid people is to pretend you are just like a normal idiot person like them.
Intimidating people with knowledge frightens and bores them.

>> No.9735936

Just build AI friends

>> No.9735940

>>9735926
Do you need something from a chimapnzee? Then it's not necessary.

>> No.9735942

>>9735931
No, I find it easy to be myself. I am only myself, I can only be myself.
My issue is: I am not willing to cave, or corrupt myself as other plebs do.
Other smart plebs probably pretend, dumb themselves down... this is something I have no intention of doing and cannot do even if I try.

>> No.9735947

>>9735916
See: >>9735931

>> No.9735953

>>9735947
I don't understand what anon needs from the plebeians, I suppose if he stooped to their level to take advantage of them for his own personal benefit it would make sense.

>> No.9735956
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9735956

>>9735781
It's not that I want to call you out for being a pretentious douchebag, it's just that someone who loves himself is often blind to his own shortcomings. There's no reason to fake humility, but this self-aggrandization is not conductive to personal reflection.

Your incapacity to bond with people in a meaningful way has likely little to do with your so-called superior intelligence. Speaking from personal experience, as someone "off the grid", authenticity and integrity of character are extremely useful traits to attract interesting characters to your life, granted that you yourself are interesting.

You should also cultivate traits like trust and charisma that allows people to open up to you – I've met many people who are appear to be average, but are strange as fuck when you get to know them. It is most likely a mixture of the social stigma of standing out and the introverted nature of weird types.

On a final note, it is difficult to understand what you mean by "smart", as there is a great variety of fields that require different forms of intelligence. IQ tests are mathematically biased, primarily testing your ability to think in structures and patterns. It has little to do with your ability to write an epic poem that captivates people for centuries, to create music that sings to the innermost chambers of the soul or spinning graceful tales that cracks people up with laughter

>> No.9735957

>>9735781
I've noticed that drinking helps

>> No.9735963

>>9735942
So the only option is to ignore (or treat with disdain) every fucking people which is not near from your intellect.

>> No.9735969

>>9735963
>every fucking people

>> No.9735972

>>9735953
No, that is wrong on all levels

>>9735956
See>>9735942
I am beyond "pretentious", this means nothing to me. When you are on the edge, raw emotion and energy, everything you do appears pretentious.
Again, I do not want to manipulate people, or trick them in any way. I am open and honest (probably too much), and so you see my problem.

>> No.9735975

>>9735956
>I've met many people who are appear to be average, but are strange as fuck when you get to know them
I think everyone has some hidden deviation from the mythical norm. You need prolonged contact with people to realize no one is quite normal. Even the most boring individual is weird as fuck in another context.

>> No.9735976

>>9735969
?

>> No.9735984

>>9735976
Should be "every fucking person".

>> No.9735990

>>9735984
oh, yes. thanks for correcting me.
i'm not a native speaker and i'm typing fast while i'm listening to music and watching a soccer game on tv.

>> No.9736099

>>9735972
I did read that post and my points still stand – in particular, I wish to highlight once again that there are different forms of intelligence and as >>9735975 said, people are stranger than you think.

I do have a couple of considerations in regards to your situation, but let me ask you this: what do you consider to be the nature of friendship?

>> No.9736121

someone screenshot OP's posts and post them to /r/iamverysmart or something

>> No.9736201

>>9736099
I find no value in friendship. I do not need, nor want it.

>>9736121
Go for it, but I really am

>> No.9736211

>>9736121
This guy is actually a redditor
https://www.reddit.com/r/iamverysmart/comments/6mb0jo/lit_is_lit_fam/

>> No.9736212

>guy thinks he's special because for being a manipulative asshole
doesn't realize this is normal and undesired

>> No.9736220

>>9735926
If it was exclusively surrounded by chimpanzees all its life it would

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>>9736121
>>9736211
>being this much of a faggot

>> No.9736231

>>9735942
That's what wrong with society unfortunately, smart friend. You have to conform in any possible way to really fit in, not breaking the law is not enough. But rejoice: society is fucking overrated anyway.

>> No.9736235

>>9736212
No, read the thread. I specifically stated I am not manipulative since it's wrong.
If you actually read, you would have seen it.
See
>>9735860
>>9735901
>>9735942
>>9735972

>> No.9736246

>>9736235
no that's just even more pathetic.
instead you are paralyzed in that kind of narcissistic thought cycle.
like i said, it's undesirable.
a smart person manipulates others with respect.

>> No.9736270

>>9736201
>I find no value in friendship. I do not need, nor want it.

What, then, is your problem?

>> No.9736279

>>9736246
I am not narcissistic at all.
>pathetic
Why is choosing not to manipulate for personal gain a bad thing?

>>9736270
...That I don't need it, nor want it

>> No.9736282

>>9736279
It's a waste of potential. You're sitting around using your intelligence to spite the world when in reality all you do is spite yourself.
It's actually very dumb.

>> No.9736288

>>9736279
>...That I don't need it, nor want it

Can you live a happy life without friendship?

>> No.9736293

>>9736282
What is? You aren't making very much sense

>>9736288
I don't know. How can anyone know?

>> No.9736301

>>9736293
>doesn't understand basic logic
i guess you must be dumb.
in fact, i know you are.

>> No.9736312

>>9736301
Okay, if you believe so. Though you explained nothing, and went off on a tangent about something unrelated. Are you confused?

>> No.9736314

>>9736312
>unable to make abstract associations
literally retarded.
you're worrying me.

>> No.9736329

>>9736314
You still haven't cleared anything up. Are you here for discussion, or just to bullshit?

>> No.9736343

>>9736329
Okay I'll spell it out.
You're dumb because:
A) You needed to make this thread
B) You claim to be self-aware and yet continue to actively engage in a self-destructive process you're also aware of
C) You blame others for your own faults
D) I had to explain this

>> No.9736344

>>9736293
>I don't know. How can anyone know?

Which leads me back to my first post;

>..someone who loves himself is often blind to his own shortcomings. There's no reason to fake humility, but this self-aggrandization is not conductive to personal reflection.

Your problem, then, is self-knowledge. You are obviously conflicted and do not seem to understand your nature. You have here a kairotic moment to benefit from Plato.

>> No.9736370

>>9736343
>You needed to make this thread
I didn't need to, but I wanted to.
>You claim to be self aware and yet continue to actively engage in self destructive
How so? What do I engage in? You are simply making stuff up now, or are confused.
>You blame others
Again, how so? Where and when have I done this?

I believe you are confused

>> No.9736380

>>9736344
No, I disagree.
>Do not seem to understand your nature
Does anyone? Really? I don't believe so. How could they?

>> No.9736426

>>9736380
>How?

Ask Socrates

>> No.9736435

>>9735781
IQ is the intelligent failure's last source of pride.

>> No.9736436

>>9736370
again, pathetic evasions you chalk up to your "intelligence" aka an elaborate delusion.

>> No.9736448

>>9736426
I can't, he's dead

>>9736435
I disagree because it's obviously not true
Do you think genius' writers, artists, philosophers, etc, didn't know they were different to their peers, honestly?

>>9736436
You still didn't clear anything up. You're just name calling. I'm trying to have discussion here

>> No.9736460

>>9736448
I'm sure they had knowledge they were different, but they certainly didn't think that made them any inherently more valuable.

Ability is culpable if never cultivated. For every great there's 100 who burned out in lack of will, and reason. Being a narcissistic fuck about your intelligence is the gateway to self-destruction.

>> No.9736520

OP, other people are useful and interesting if only you knew how to properly socialize and compartmentalize your interactions. Read a book or two about interpersonal communication. Go figure out that it's a chess game and every action, verbal or nonverbal, has an immediate reaction and a long term context to your relationship with that person. Smart creative people feed off of others for inspiration and entertainment. Even Sherlock Holmes had a friend and used his intelligence to interact with other people and bend them to his will. This isn't even an ethically bad thing to do in most situations. People only interact with others for a handful of reasons and a handful of ways. There is something wrong with you you can not constructively look within yourself to see that this is how society works and in order to accomplish any goal you set for yourself you must play to those around you. It's quite fun once the magic of socializing is taken away. There are applicable communication theories for most any interaction. Why not apply your brilliance to something you despise so you can get over yourself?

>> No.9736532

>>9736520
> it's a chess game and every action, verbal or nonverbal, has an immediate reaction and a long term context to your relationship with that person. Smart creative people feed off of others for inspiration and entertainment. Even Sherlock Holmes had a friend and used his intelligence to interact with other people and bend them to his will
You know he's not a real person, right?

Again, you misunderstood my post and the point of this thread. I don't have any issue with socialising, If anything, I find it easy.

>>9736460
Agree with second part, but there is no way Plato didn't KNOW he was more valuable than some random nobody. He knew!

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9736544

This is the oldest kind of baits in blue boards, I don't know why the fuck some people still fall for it. It's just some lonely neet looking to spark up a conversation but have no real interest of the topic of the board they're in.

>> No.9736549

Those with high IQs realize that it is their duty to enact the policies of the Authoritarian Right. It is the only logical conclusion of principled intellectual exclucivity.

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>>9736544
Guess we got a genius over here huh

>> No.9736558

>>9735781
Manufacture a virus that only kills baby boomers very, very quickly.

>> No.9736708

>>9736544
These threads have always existed on anon forums. It is basically the perfect troll thread because every person on this board has thought, in their teens, that they were too smart and couldnt relate to people. Now that they know they were wrong and being stupid, they boil with rage at seeing a reflection of their personal failings, which they still harbor a piece of today deep in their mind whenever they fail to mingle successfully with people

>> No.9736717

>>9736708
No, I just really am a genius

>> No.9736752

just clean your room lol

>> No.9736760

>>9735781

Leave your basement
The feeling will pass quickly

>> No.9736768

>>9736532
It was an example of a character for you to relate with because you obviously can't relate with anyone of a normal stature.

Socializing isn't easy if you don't enjoy the control and you don't like the thrill of the hunt. Whats the fucking point if you hate it but think it's easy? You got a lot of introspection to do brah.

>> No.9736789

>>9735956
Underrated post.

>> No.9737468

>>9735781
Dunning Kruger

>> No.9737548

>>9735858
>>If you were really smart, you could, at least, pretend to be like a normal person
Actually, you can't.

Try to write something in a way someone with less than 85IQ would write it. Just a paragraph or two. You'll do fine at the start, but in a few sentences, you'll see that something betrays you as too intelligent. It just doesn't work, your brain can't function like that.

Btw, a 30-40IQ difference is more than enough for two people to operate on entirely different levels, and can't properly understand each other. If you have average IQ, imagine trying to talk to a chimpanzee and to adapt to their society, live by their customs, somehow prosper in it... they'd tear you to fucking shreds.

>>9735865
>I assume you're a member of Mensa, speak to people on Mensa chatrooms or local meetups.
They're really terrible nowadays, 10 years ago it was mostly normalfags prowling for nerd pussy, but now it's been taken over by feminists/SJWs.

>> No.9737557

>>9735956
Great post anon, and great frogs too.

>> No.9737579

>>9735781
The guy who argued against OP argued his point very well btw.

>> No.9737596

Sarcasm or not, sincere or not. Some valuable advice.

I'm a pretty smart bloke, would never admit so non anonymously. Grew up in a very working class town, shit economy, etc, etc. To cut to the chase my friends are all average, or just below average intelligence, some with a high degree of mechanical aptitude, some without. I'm not friends with them because of how smart they are or arent. I'm friends with them because we share similar values, ideas, hobbies and enjoy each others companionship. Literature, reading, writing I explore by myself. I drink beers, build stuff, go fishing, talk about social stuff, news and current affairs with them and I wouldnt have it another other way

>> No.9737618

>>9735781
The answer, unironically, is to read books. Sure, you might not meet many people worth talking to but you will find people worth reading, even if you have a genius IQ.

>> No.9737676

>>9736708
Bait or not, I know there's people that think like this out there.

>>9737548
If you can't explain a complex subject simply then you need to study it more.

>> No.9737816

>>9737676
>If you can't explain a complex subject simply then you need to study it more.
Ok, explain the concept of "promise" to a chimpanzee.

Did you know that they can't even explain concepts like that to Africans?

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>>9736121
>>9736211
>>9736222
>unironically being a reddit user

kys

>> No.9737919

>>9736708
>>9736717
me too

>> No.9737966

>>9736343
Have you ever considered that dumbing himself down is something that he would consider degrading and normally "not worth" the gain he would get from befriending normal people? I don't mean dumbing himself down in the sense that he never references Ulysses in conversation, but rather dumbing down everything, like his behavior and his interests, simply to get along. He very well may be "capable" of making friends with normal people, but may consider the behavior he would have to adopt a form of debasement. Remember, he said he can "only be himself", and if being himself (assuming he's otherwise well-adjusted, just erudite) makes him an outcast, then we're stuck in a quandary. How do we promote the best possible experience without debasing ourselves?

Consider for a moment that it not his appeal to other people that is the problem, but the appeal of other people to him. Especially if you're a moralistic type, it's a tough proposition to find things in common with other people, given the multitude of hedonistic ways people have been encouraged to destroy themselves and their potential. Unless you can offer a compromise of how to make the best out of our interactions with other people, then I think this conversation will just get derailed with the standard "stop being pretentious" response, which is sometimes applicable to narcissists, but not generally applicable to upstanding people. Is having standards "pretentious"? I hope not.

He can still be intelligent and misguided for all we know. A lot of us became jaded during formative experiences. Let's talk about how to unleash our potential instead of bashing each other over perceived or real behavioral pathologies. We wouldn't be making these threads on an anonymous forum if we didn't want to improve ourselves, even if we do provide some pushback at first.

>> No.9737986

>>9735931 (don't be intimidating)
>>9735942 (OP - easy to be myself, don't want to not be myself)
>>9735956 (be self-aware)
>>9735972 (OP - I don't want to manipulate others)
>>9736246 (don't be a narcissist, manipulate others respectfully)
>>9736520 (compartmentalize interactions, learn "the social game", apply brilliance)
>>9737548 (pretending to be dumb is a losing proposition with sufficient intelligence)
>>9737596 (an example of good balance, method unknown)

Now, what if we're dealing with a person with either low self-esteem or high self-awareness, who also happens to have high moral standards, who doesn't know how he SHOULD interact with other people. He admits that he can manipulate well, but doubts whether that is in good character, or whether that truly can cover up the degenerate way the world is.

Do you know what the only solution I'm seeing to all of this? Being a shining exemplar who can bring the best out of people they didn't even know they had. And that's incredibly difficult for anybody, but a commendable goal to strive for. Is anybody else seeing where I'm going with this? Why not have a more positive and sophisticated thread for once?

>> No.9738005

>>9735869
Fuck off icycalm

>> No.9738073

>>9735781
Why don't you troll people if you're so smart?

>> No.9738077

>>9738073
Because he finds it miserable because he doesn't like being a cunt when it isn't necessary.

>> No.9738175

>>9736448
>I can't, he's dead
Lmao, 8/10

Where did you all get the idea that dumb people don't like clever people? Just be witty and amicable instead of dry and technical.

Also, can someone give an example of a social interaction that someone else might do but would be too manipulative for OP? We all seem to have taken this for granted, and I'm sure there's ethics of social interactions but really in my daily experience it's very easy not to run afoul of them.

>> No.9738190

eh

John von Neumann could converse with small children like they were equals. You aren't as bright as you think you are if you can't figure out how to relate to huemans.

>> No.9738199

>>9738190
Ok, but people sometimes point to that to ask if everyone was a child to John von Neumann. And I think there's a bit somewhere about not living among the Kindermenschen.

>> No.9738201

you're not as smart as you are arrogant

>> No.9738206

>>9738190
Babies are easier to talk to than degenerate adults. If you want to have any camraderie with your average hedonistic pleb, you need to be willing to debase yourself aesthetically, intellectually, and morally. Manipulation is the only option because engaging at their natural level, without steering them in a certain direction, is a cancerous exercise.

>> No.9738207

>>9738199
>Ok, but people sometimes point to that to ask if everyone was a child to John von Neumann

that doesn't refute my point at all. if anything it reinforces it

>> No.9738218

>>9738207
What if you find it degrading, undignified, and immoral to treat adults as children? If this were a subject about dating, and somebody claimed to have solved all relationship issues by treating/disciplining their girlfriend or wife like a teenaged daughter, then this board would up in arms and crying out "/pol/ get out."

>> No.9738229

>>9738218
as a left-wing person i actually think that's somewhat acceptable in practice, but maybe not in writing. Women don't really grow up in some ways, it's in their wiring, helps them relate to children. It's something most men know but out of respect for their differences, really dont find it necessary to mention.

>> No.9738237

>>9735781
>Ctrl+f alcoholism
>0 results found.

>> No.9738255

>>9738218
>What if you find it degrading, undignified, and immoral to treat adults as children?

you're taking the john von neumann kids thing too literally. the point is that he had a facility to descend to other peoples' level and relate to them there, a skill he must have developed out of necessity

although as an aside, haven't you noticed that many adults (maybe most of them) are quite adolescent, even childish, in the core of their being? the adult world is full of kids playing dress up. that's just reality. hence the ubiquitous pop-psych meme of getting in touch with your "inner-child", because the statistical probability is that you're a child shrink-wrapped in social conditioning that took over your development circa age 11

honestly (if you're OP) you yourself strike me as childish. this thread was created primarily for attention-seeking and ego stroking purposes.

>> No.9738260

>>9738237
Underrated post

>> No.9738294

>>9738255
>you're taking the john von neumann kids thing too literally. the point is that he had a facility to descend to other peoples' level and relate to them there, a skill he must have developed out of necessity
We're talking about the general state of society, anon. Children are pleasurable to deal with because, despite their mischief, they're innocent and impressionable. There is something demeaning to have to debase yourself to relate to other people.

>honestly (if you're OP) you yourself strike me as childish. this thread was created primarily for attention-seeking and ego stroking purposes.
What if I don't actively seek attention and don't care for my ego, at least in a traditional way, and yet still find this to be a problem?

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>>9735781
>How do I deal with having a higher IQ than 99.9 percent of people, /lit/?

Tfw I have low IQ.
Tfw struggling to appreciate art and literature.
Tfw stick to philosophy.
Tfw get called a pleb and fucktard by everyone and to kill self but am used to it.
Tfw won't ever relate to smart people stuff.

Don't make fun of dumb anons. We're trying our best.

Inb4 kys autismo

>> No.9738345

>>9738295
>Don't make fun of dumb anons. We're trying our best.
I love you if you try to better yourself. Most people don't. Even intelligent people try their hardest to debase themselves.

>> No.9738358

>>9738294
>There is something demeaning to have to debase yourself to relate to other people.

oh well. seek the company of the wise, and failing that get by as well as you can. you're way overthinking this, which is probably part of your "problem" insofar as you have one: you have it in your head that you have to think about stuff and stay loyal to your thoughts.

protip: most thought is a waste of life-force. the sooner you figure that out, the better. that's my final word on this. stop overthinking, wasting your and other people's time. please understand that. not because i want to win this argument but because i want you to get something out of this conversation. if you really are suffering because you can't or don't want to relate to people, stop thinking that you have to be loyal to your big egghead brain all the time. if you have the ability to apply concentration (you should, if you're smart) you should be able to learn how to interact with regular people in a detached but skillful way, effortlessly. other eggheads have done it and you can do it too. all counter arguments to this that your egghead intellect presents to you are probably defense mechanisms and are to be held in contempt if you actually want to become a more skillful person

>> No.9738368

>>9738358
I don't think you gave a moment to understand exactly what I was saying.

>if you really are suffering because you can't or don't want to relate to people, stop thinking that you have to be loyal to your big egghead brain all the time.
Who the hell said I was being loyal to my brain? What if I don't want to be a hedonistic, irresponsible, technologically-addicted, wishy-washy, and vapid piece of shit who's a drain on everybody else around me? I'm not loyal to my brain, I'm loyal to my damn heart.

>if you have the ability to apply concentration (you should, if you're smart) you should be able to learn how to interact with regular people in a detached but skillful way, effortlessly. other eggheads have done it and you can do it too.
It is not hard for me to do. But this behavior only makes me more misanthropic, unless you're saying I should cultivate cognitive dissonance. And I'm sure that would lead to a drinking problem.

>all counter arguments to this that your egghead intellect presents to you are probably defense mechanisms and are to be held in contempt if you actually want to become a more skillful person
We aren't talking about "how" in the basic sense of "how" to interact with other people. We get that. It's not hard. What you're seeing is the cynical product of experience from being able to navigate modern society. What about the "how should" and the "why" questions that we've asked and you've neglected to answer?

>> No.9738372

>>9738358
This is a good post but you're wasting a lot of time on someone with a ~120 IQ who just wants to bait out responses.

Judging people by their IQ instead of their integrity, humour, humility, contributions etc. is also one of the most reprehensible and angsty things to do.

>> No.9738373

>>9738237
It also tends to turn you into a cynical misantrophe. Fair enough deal in my opinion.

>> No.9738380

>>9738358
One last thing, I'm not trying to "win" this argument either. I want to improve the quality of my life because I find myself steering towards a hermit lifestyle, which I want to avoid if I can. But I will seek to carry it to its logical conclusion. Every single time I see this kind of conversation, nobody really gets down to the bottom of it, and every relies on the same canned interpretation (hurr durr look at how smart I am) and the same canned responses (hurr durr get over yourself). And there are people who deserved that take-down, and there are plenty more people who took that advice and still found themselves a bit empty inside. Can we finish this conversation once and for all for those in the latter category? Thanks.

>> No.9738385

>>9738372
Oh piss off you jackass. I never mentioned IQ, and I thought it was clear from my posts that I was judging people by integrity, humor, humility, and contributions PURELY. I don't care about IQ as long as you don't act like a degenerate cunt, I just felt that my problem somewhat resonated with the OP but in a different way.

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>>9735809
That's not a frog though, m8. It's a toad.

>> No.9738396

>>9738380
Except you did not take that advice and you never got over yourself.
If you were the smartest man on earth and 20 points ahead of the next one, you might have a valid problem.
But you're not "too smart for the world" just because you don't like football. In terms of intellect, you're an absolute regular joe. If you weren't, you'd be satisfied sitting in an ivory tower with your work, or you'd be enjoying a circle of like-minded rocket scientists you call your friends. All the genius-level men we know of had no problem socializing and being social animals - unless they were sociopaths with low self-esteem. But then it's not the intellec that gets in the way.
And I suspect the same for you. You sound like an awful human being to be around and you rationalise it as "just being too smart to connect".
You strike me as someone too smart for some social circles but too dumb for other social circles, and definitely too dumb to realise there are different social circles for that very reason and that it's in your hands who you surround yourself with.

>> No.9738405

>>9738385
You said you have to debase yourself to relate to other people. So obviously the barrier you see is intellect, unless you actually think you have more integrity, humour, and humility than 99,9% of all people - the very assumption of which would prove you wrong by itself.

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9738420

>mfw plebs actually replied to this obvious bait

>> No.9738433

>>9737986
Sorry helping others isn't in the spirit of the board.

>> No.9738443

>>9738396
>Except you did not take that advice and you never got over yourself.
I did get over myself. Like I said earlier, I carry no pretensions that everybody should read Ulysses and cite Shakespeare. That's not my problem, and if it were, it would be a juvenile one.

>But you're not "too smart for the world" just because you don't like football
I actually like watching sports. I made it work for me. I did take that advice that you mentioned earlier, anon. I had some real blunder years that I had to get over. Unfortunately, I still have some real gripes left, and let me be clear that it has NOTHING to do with IQ.

>In terms of intellect, you're an absolute regular joe. If you weren't, you'd be satisfied sitting in an ivory tower with your work, or you'd be enjoying a circle of like-minded rocket scientists you call your friends.
I'm studying at a HYPSM-caliber university and I have a few high-powered friends that I get along with just fine. But there are plenty of other intelligent people that really get on my nerves, like those who overwork themselves during the day only to became a debauched mess at night, breaking down into a mess over regrets in their hedonism and nearly choking on their own vomit. It's one reason I don't drink anymore. I can't bear to stand alcohol.

>And I suspect the same for you. You sound like an awful human being to be around and you rationalise it as "just being too smart to connect".
Maybe you should do less suspecting and maybe read what I'm arguing instead of tackling a straw man. Reserve some judgment and stop being an insufferable dickhead.

>You strike me as someone too smart for some social circles but too dumb for other social circles, and definitely too dumb to realise there are different social circles for that very reason and that it's in your hands who you surround yourself with.
It was never an intellectual problem that I had instead of a moral problem. We tolerate shitty lifestyles and shitty ways of conduct. And it's debasing to have to adjust to those levels. There are plenty of low IQ people who live perfectly wholesome lives and the time to educate themselves, and there are plenty of high IQ people who willingly embrace the path to self-destruction and degeneracy.

>>9738405
>You said you have to debase yourself to relate to other people. So obviously the barrier you see is intellect, unless you actually think you have more integrity, humour, and humility than 99,9% of all people - the very assumption of which would prove you wrong by itself.
I don't think you could have made a better attempt to poison the well than you did just now. You really are trying to "win" this conversation, you snarky disingenuous fuck. Riddle me this: how would a person with integrity and humility answer the question of how he compares himself to other people?

>> No.9738451

>>9738295
You are dumb Anon, but only the stupidest person thinks they aren't.

>> No.9738467

When you finish high school you'll realise iQ was just a 4chan meme that you built your self worth around.

Be ready for the crash

>> No.9738471

>>9738368
>What if I don't want to be a hedonistic, irresponsible, technologically-addicted, wishy-washy, and vapid piece of shit who's a drain on everybody else around me? I'm not loyal to my brain, I'm loyal to my damn heart.

well, why don't you not be those things, but also be less judgmental to everyone else? you have no idea what other people are going through or what endowments they have to work with in the first place. everyone is fighting their own war of existence

>>9738368
>It is not hard for me to do. But this behavior only makes me more misanthropic, unless you're saying I should cultivate cognitive dissonance

cognitive dissonance shouldn't happen unless you're telling lies. who said you have to tell lies? if you find yourself in situations where you have to lie, avoid them. or just tell the truth

>What about the "how should" and the "why" questions that we've asked and you've neglected to answer?

the irony here is that I live a fairly hermetic lifestyle myself. but i know loneliness when i see it. the "why" is to reduce your level of suffering, which you must be struggling with for you to have even entered into this discussion with me

i have to leave, so best of luck to you

>>9738372
you never know who you might reach if you put some effort into it. plus i woke up super early this morning and didnt feel like doing anything productive

>> No.9738477

>>9735781
>This is /lit/ related because I read at least a book a day, and have done for the past 8 years.

Fuck off, why don't mods delete threads like this?

>> No.9738497

>>9738443
>>9738471
you're not replying to OP. he is some random guy who took over this thread

>> No.9738520

>>9738471
>well, why don't you not be those things, but also be less judgmental to everyone else?
Well, I try my hardest. I don't like judgmental. I really don't. But some things build up over a long period of time. I just have to vent, you know? I don't like the direction of where my life is going.
>you have no idea what other people are going through or what endowments they have to work with in the first place. everyone is fighting their own war of existence
And at the same time, we still (arguably) have the freedom to choose. I've known people in similar dire circumstances make remarkably different life choices.
>cognitive dissonance shouldn't happen unless you're telling lies. who said you have to tell lies? if you find yourself in situations where you have to lie, avoid them. or just tell the truth
Social life is a game of deception, and it fucking sucks. I'm at university, and everything is politicized now. It's like a soft inquisition. I'm a former socialist turned conservative, still believe in historical materialism to an extent, but I've become more jaded towards the state of the world, especially how leftism (in my view) has been co-opted by corporations. I'd be fine with avoiding politics, but everything is now about politics (at least at my university), and I have to keep an elaborate charade to avoid people from figuring out that I'm a social conservative and targeting me for it. I'm not being paranoid. It has happened to other people in the community. I do not want it to happen to me because this is my golden ticket. You can't escape social reality, and it's a miserable experience desu. And don't get me started on our materialistic society (though we've all heard that spiel).

>the "why" is to reduce your level of suffering, which you must be struggling with for you to have even entered into this discussion with me
Well, thank you for reaching some sort of understanding with me. That is what I'm trying to do. But I just don't want to end up hating myself because I tolerate the bullshit of other people. Enjoy the rest of your day.

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>>9737986
This board doesn't deserve you m8.

>> No.9738574

>>9735781
It's evident that you haven't been socialised properly.

It's depressing, but I just forgive stupid people for their lack of intelligence. Honestly, it's not their fault they're inferior.

But, I can sympathise with your frustration. Instead of anger, I feel a deep seeded pity for them. it's lead me to a life of relative seclusion, and sometimes I envy people like you and your ruthless wit.

I just can't bear to see them squirm...

>> No.9738588

>>9735781
Sports are patrician as fuck and the smartest people I know watch them.
It's an activity any and every man can enjoy and bond over. This has been known for thousands of years.

>> No.9738598

>>9738588
No it isn't, you're a low test nu-male, though.
PARTICIPATING in sports is that, simply watching it on TV isn't.

The smartest people you know are morons

>> No.9738619

>>9737966
>>9737986
These posts rang true for me.

Forget about the "hurr hurr I'm a tortured MENSA member" crap. I'm a bright guy, and while I'm certainly no genius, I have a good idea of what it takes to be a good, well-rounded, and developed person like any educated person here. Yet, I do my best to keep myself humble, because pride leads to self-destruction without fail. I can't keep silent about everything for long, though. It still bothers me how we, as a society, encourage other people to embrace a high school mentality and enable other people's terrible lifestyles. Even social justice is catching onto it when people try to associate fat shaming with more legitimate abuses. Am I supposed to "live with the times", "refuse to engage", or "inspire others"? I don't know.

I try to live a balanced routine, keep my comments to myself, try to let loose and have fun with others, but too often I'm forced into situations where I literally have to "dumb myself down" or to put it more aptly, "degrade myself" just to handle other people. Friends, I'm not complaining about the lack of Shakespeare in our day-to-day lives, but what can be said about the stupid social games we play in pursuit of mindless materialism every day, covering up what matters the most? I want no part of inauthenticity anymore, or at least find a good outlet so I can stomach the times where I have to put up with other people for the good of everybody around me.

>> No.9738622

>>9738574
>Honestly, it's not their fault they're inferior.

Yes, actually, it is. I'm not OP but I was raised by dumb animals. Ignorant, illiterate, chattering apes who gather and fight over nothing. They drove my father away. Animals. I hold them accountable for the worst years of my life and the headstart I could have had but for their ignorance. My hate is consuming. It made me.

>> No.9738624

>>9738598
Why are you crying about someone else's opinion? Lots of geniuses like to watch sports. Joyce liked watching rugby for example.

>> No.9738630

Sage

>> No.9738644

>>9738622
I'm sorry about your suffering, but I couldn't help but laugh at the way you worded it. I like it!

>> No.9738649

>>9738622
They're prisoners of their genetics. I'm sorry for your misfortune.

>> No.9738771

>>9738443
No. At first I grouped you in with OP because I thought you have the same issue, but you hijacked his thread while claiming to have a completely different issue. But then you never outright state what your issue is.

So I have to go by the indicators you leave, such as having to debase yourself to be on the level of other people. I'm not trying to win any arguments, I just have similar feelings sometimes so I'm using this as some kind of Socratic dialogue.

If you don't have a problem with dumb people, and you have friends you get along with, then what exactly is your problem? That SOME OTHER PEOPLE who you DON'T even hang out with have a lifestyle you don't like? And somehow you just cannot go on living by just not partying later in the day?
Like I said, I thought you're as isolated as OP. But there are so many people who lead lives no more morally abhorrent than you that I don't understand why some druggies, sluts or fuckups constitute an existential problem for you?

>> No.9738815

>>9738771
>>9738443
(For clarification, I mean no harm and don't just want to win either. After reading your later post, I can tell you that I'm pretty much a 100% carbon copy of you and these are same issues I'm dealing with myself, including the left-to-right evolution. Never been a socialist, but still, the development taught me that there is hope for most people and that I should try not to hate people for the indoctrination they received.)

>> No.9738823

>>9735781
>How do I deal with having a higher IQ than 99.9 percent of people, /lit/?

I'm sure you can work it out, smartypants.

>> No.9738849

>>9738771
>But then you never outright state what your issue is.
>>9737966
>>9737986
I think I've made it clear here. Most people are their own worst enemies. I have a problem with the choices people make for themselves and their consequences from the smallest daily interactions to the worst collateral damage they inflict on others. You can't just avoid degenerates when they've influenced the environment in which you socialize.

>That SOME OTHER PEOPLE who you DON'T even hang out with have a lifestyle you don't like?
That's a bit of a ridiculous caricature and you know it. I don't hang out with people because they have said lifestyle. I'm perfectly fine with being alone but I regret that I'm missing out on crucial experience or some spiritual challenge. My mindset can't be healthy but the arguments and observations that have led to it can't be ignored.

>But there are so many people who lead lives no more morally abhorrent than you that I don't understand why some druggies, sluts or fuckups constitute an existential problem for you?
So many? I don't know what you're thinking about. Not a lot of people living like they're Peter Hitchens, and it's becoming more unfashionable by the day. If you're not drinking, smoking, and partying every day, if you're not rejecting the old Western canon for puerile garbage, if you're not perpetuating the high school clique-ish mentality that has been encouraged by social media, then you're often seen as a total weirdo or a social outcast.

Socialization requires two people to come to terms on what matters in the long-term and to have shared interests. Unfortunately, nothing that I think matters seems to matter to other people, despite their objective importance that everybody should consider. Even when I used to party and drink, few people want to do something adventurous like go on a journey, instead settling for the path of least resistance of talking about boring, crude shit in the hopes that they'll get laid. And that's the problem, you can't fake caring about this in the long-term because you will either expose yourself and became lonely anyway or you will be eaten away by resentment towards humanity.

What happened to living like a patrician who took care of themselves because you only get one shot at life? What happened to trying to figure out how this world works? What happened to do no harm?

>> No.9738871

There's almost no chance you're smarter than me and I do just fine.

I am an intellectual mutant who grew up in a low IQ family, made lots of low IQ friends and learned to socialise like normal (low IQ) people. I enjoy being around stupid people more than people closer to my level.

>>9738823
This post is true.

>> No.9738878

>>9738871
If your parents aren't high IQ then you can't be high IQ as someone else whos parents are.
You're likely slightly above average, 120~

>> No.9738892

>>9738878
Don't pretend you know how intelligence works.

>> No.9738920

>>9735781
Go to /Pol/. You've swallowed the redpill

>> No.9738932

I can sympathize. I'm highly self-aware and "intelligent" along with being well-read so conversations in "my group" is little more than gossip or shallow talk about the Kardashians or the next Bachelorette. I can't talk about such mundane topics genuinely.

>> No.9738953

>>9735781
If you are smart why would you even want to deal with plebs?
>How do I stop being too smart?
Start doing inhalants, anon.

>> No.9738956

>>9738932
Are you a female?

>> No.9738964

As for most problems with a mental component, a lobotomy is one possible, even if not the best, solution.

>> No.9738986

>>9738956
Yes.

>> No.9738996

>>9738986
Interesting.

>> No.9739027

>>9738996
In spite of disagreement about the MBTI personality test, I'm accurately described as an INTJ, which is considered a "male" type, but is the rarest type for a female at .8% or 1 in every 100 women

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>>9735858
IF YOU WERE REALLY SMART, YOU'D KNOW WHAT TO DO
WHEN I SAY
*steel drum solo*

>> No.9739066

>>9737986
good formatting

>> No.9739091

>>9738849
This thread is shit due to the OP and I don't have time right now to properly discuss this but as I said, I'm in your shoes and dealing with the same questions so if you'd like to work on solutions for these problems and drop some anonymous email or something, I'll write you.

>>9739027
Is there some research into MBTI and IQ? I feel like INTJ and its brothers are roughly as common as 120+ IQs and my non-empirical impression is that the overlap is 100%.

>> No.9739103

idk maybe apply yourself and accomplish something useful instead of bragging about some spooky number on /lit/

>> No.9739108

>>9739091
Op here. I made this thread great
>>9738986
Stop lying. Women don't have high IQ's. It's near impossible.
You likely have mediocre IQ and delusion

>> No.9739112

>>9739091
Here's a link. I've taken it more than 4 times in the last 2 years with the same results. I read their info and for me it's accurate. A simple Google search will give you both pros and cons and you will see the validity to both sides.

As for IQ, I have a very low one since it's mathematically based and I was taught during the self esteem era and not the new way math is being conceptually taught. Therefore I never excelled since 5th grade.
https://www.16personalities.com/

>> No.9739152

>>9739108
I'm sure some women have a high IQ. I don't, however, and I actually don't think any sort of standardized testing is any accurate depiction of intelligence or ability. I self-studied for high school and I only got a 28 on my ACT, but it was the highest in my district had I gone to the public school. I think 24 or 26 was their best. So, all in all being homeschooled helped me more than a public education. I want to choose what I learn, not being told what I have to learn.

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>>9739152
Didn't understand any of that because I'm not American and I didn't go to an American school

>> No.9739448

>>9739211
IQ= Intelligence Quotient meaning you are given a number that supposedly determines how smart you are.

An ACT is a test that everyone takes during their third year in High School to determine college placement. It's scored out of 36 and the average score is between 18-21.

Homeschooled means I studied by myself at home, including choosing my own courses and topics of study.

>> No.9739597

>>9739448
I know what IQ is, I'm OP. You're given two scores anyway. A score for quantitative, and one for verbal.
I didn't know what ACT, though.

Why were you home schooled?

>> No.9739668

>>9739091
Thanks for your time. I don't know if I want to do discord.

>> No.9739696

>>9739112
I mean I don't know if I want to do email, discord, or something. I want to remain anonymous, and I've been dealing with hacking issues lately. I'd like to continue the conversation if you like to share some more insights.

>> No.9739705

>>9739696
>>9739668
>>9739091
Fuck off homos

Discord is for plebs and so is contacting people from 4chan

>> No.9739770

>>9739597
I was homeschooled because I wanted to focus on actually learning and get a good education. Out of an 8 hour school day, 3 hours is wasted with bullshit. I managed to have shorter days, graduate early, and work part time

>> No.9739785

>>9739770
Did they kick you out of real school or what happened?

>> No.9739806

>>9735865
>tfw went to a mensa meeting
>all cat ladies, postal workers, nu-male librarians and barnes and noble employees
>noped all the way back to shitposting on chans

>> No.9739844

being emotionally retarded is why youre so autistic

>> No.9739849

>>9735781
you don't. You're probably in the bottom 10%.
>being so dumb you think everyone else is retarded

>> No.9739864

>>9739849
No, I've been tested. My verbal score came back 180

I'm 99th percentile without a doubt

>> No.9739869

>>9739864
I'm hearing that you're just above functionally retarded?
No wonder that the normies can't even stand you

>> No.9739872

>>9735781
>claims high iq
>asks fourchanners for help
Hehe im sure you see why u're a retardo

>> No.9739881

>>9739869
Normies like me because I'm good looking and confident, but I dont like them, never have

>>9739872
There are some smart folks on here

>> No.9739896

>>9739785
No. I registered. I just decided I wanted to self study so I did. I got excellent marks in college so having been homeschooled makes my resume stand out as well. Im always asked about it

>> No.9739909

>>9739896
tits or gtfo anyway
/lit/ tits are best tits

>> No.9739917

>>9738986
> no benis
lost all interest

>> No.9739920

>>9739909
Probably the only ones you'll ever see.

>> No.9739923

It's not that impressive if it's only 99.9% desu. There are so many people ahead of you.

>> No.9739928

>>9739917
That's alright! I totally support the LGBTQ+ community. You are loved here, anon

>> No.9739931

>>9739920
Nah I fuck cunts often but usually dumb ones, so post yours

>> No.9740011

>>9738871

>intellectual mutant who grew up in a low IQ family, made lots of low IQ friends and learned to socialise like normal (low IQ) people

My nigga. If it weren't for the internet I would hardly ever willingly interact with people more than two standard deviations above normal intelligence. I intentionally kept my grades down in school once I got stuck in accelerated classes just to get away from all the non-humans. There's almost always this uncomfortable tension in the air I sense when the local population density of highly conscious individuals gets too high.

>> No.9740024

>>9739931
Nah, I don't think I will.

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>>9740024
do it

>> No.9740056

>>9735781
If your Intelligence Quotient was truly that high, you wouldn't need to ask for advice on 4chan.

>> No.9740102

>>9737548
Don't write like an idiot, write for them. This works for all forms of social interaction. You misunderstood the goal line and your point is moot.

>>9737816
You're comparing stupid people to chimpanzees. why would anyone take you seriously? I'd say learn to apply principle of charity, but I genuinely doubt you are able to.

>>9737986
Logical intelligence has little to do with acquiring that mindset. Don't be surprised so few of the high IQ posters on /lit/ would come to understand it on their own, they are as likely to as your average citizen.
As for your actual point, start by defining what you're thinking of when talking about bringing out the best in people. Your view of it is more vague than you think.

>> No.9740108

>>9740056
underage

>> No.9740121

/lit/ will fall in completely over an obvious troll thread, convincing itself all the while that it is merely engaging in a bit of sport, a little intellectual exercise, as it beats itself to death trying to prove that is in, in fact, much more intelligent than the self-professed smartypants.

>> No.9740126

>>9740121
Your clever perspective is debunked by the simple fact that OP was partly serious.

>> No.9740132

>>9740121
Which is funny because the only thing necessary to prove one is smarter than a self-proclaimed smarty-pants is to not respond to them at all!

>> No.9740141

>>9740102
'sup moron, thanx 4 pr0vin' muh po1nt.

>> No.9740149

>>9740141
Don't just let my obvious attempt at reverse psychology go to waste

>> No.9740160

Give each post on /lit/ the credit of being written by a genius. You'll learn more from them than by assuming they were written by idiots.

If you had read Sun Tzu you would know this.

>> No.9740169

>>9740126
>partly serious
Nigger, my IQ is 180

>> No.9740174

>>9740169
Dude that's nothin, mine is 312!

>> No.9740194

Who 80-90 IQ masterrace. Smart but not autistic with patterns.

>> No.9740198

>>9740169
Damn, with pattern recognition and spacial cognition this developed it must be literal hell to communicate with normal people.

Assuming you're even the OP: You weren't completely serious, so don't pretend to be retarded just because you're sulking.

>> No.9740212

>>9740198
It's only hell because I like to keep a clean conscience

If I was a sociopath it would be easy since I wouldn't' care about manipulating others

>> No.9740214

>>9740194
>80-90
>smart

wew

>> No.9740215

>higher than 99.9%
That's 1 in 1000, if you're not a neet you probably pass by a pedestrian/driver smarter than you once a day.

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>>9740215
>being this stupid

>> No.9740223

>>9735781
The thing is, your IQ really isn't that high.

>> No.9740225

>>9740212
I feel bad for the people nonironically stuck between the gap of too smart to naturally interact with plebs but too dumb to smoothly adjust to them whenever needed.

>> No.9740227

>>9740220
Who are you quoting?

>> No.9740230

>>9735781
OP, for someone of incredible intelligence, you certainly aren't good at conveying your feelings well.

Go invent a perpetual motion machine if you're such a genius. I'll wait.

>> No.9740232

>>9740223
It really is
>>9740225
I'm not stuck anywhere, and your post makes no sense. I simply don't want to be a bad person and manipulate others
>>9740227
>he doesn't know how greentext works

>> No.9740233

>>9735781
your problem is not being too smart, your problem is being stuck up

>> No.9740237

>>9740230
Not possible, moron

>> No.9740241

>>9740233
>Stuck up
There is no such thing, and if there is such a thing it has nothing to do with intelligence.

>> No.9740247

>>9740232
You can interact with stupid people without manipulating them.

How does it feel to non ironically need this fact spelled out for you?

>n-no you dont understand, thats not how it works
It does for people smarter than you, like me. Post email and I'll send proof, just because I pity you for being unable to comprehend otherwise.

>> No.9740248

>>9740232
Smart people don't post on 4chan. Smart people do smart things. Where are the fruits of your intelligence? Surely you must be some prodigy. You can be Einstein and it won't mean jack shit unless you use it.

>> No.9740253

>>9740248
>le "if youre so smart then where are your achievements"
wew lad

>> No.9740266

>>9740247
What proof are you gonna send?
Also, it really does work that way.

89c00r+5cws3zve8hp54@sharklasers.com

>> No.9740273

>>9740241
>it has nothing to do with intelligence

I agree you can be stuck up even if you are dumb, but my point is still standing.

Exaggerated human arrogance is the biggest flaw of them all.

>> No.9740279

>>9740273
>My point is still standing
No, it isn't.
>Exaggerated human arrogance is the biggest flaw of them all.
No, it isn't.

>> No.9740308

>>9740266
sent ;)

>> No.9740310

>>9740253
Not an argument.

>> No.9740315

>>9740310
Saying "not an argument" is not an argument

>> No.9740334

>>9735781
Have you heard of the dunning-krueger effect? Being good at something specific doesn't make you good at everything else. I hope you're baiting

>> No.9740337

>>9735781
Confirmed for never>>9740215
implying smart people drive

>> No.9740340

>>9740315
Then where are your accomplishments?

>> No.9740350

>>9740334
>heurrrrrrrrrr dur duning kerugfrr erffect i heard about on reedit
Fucking moron, what do you think this is? I'm not joking, my IQ has been tested by trusted institutions and came back the score aforementioned.

It's not just me being too stupid to realise I'm stupid. Try read the fucking thread next time.

>> No.9740358

>>9740340
I have several works that will be published posthomously

>> No.9740363

>>9740358
lol

>> No.9740374 [DELETED] 

>>9740350
Well, you don't doubt the accuracy of the tests at all, are you? Reading your posts, i certainly am.

>> No.9740387

>>9740350
Wow, so you're a smart loser. Amazing! You'll fit right in at Mensa!

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9740389

>>9735781
7'0" 170 IQ ubermensch reporting in to unmask the original poster's delusion of higher intelligence.

No individual of truly higher intellectual profundity would gauge themselves using an inaccurate measure such as the intelligence quotient. Furthermore, being unable to empathize with the average man due to his lower cognitive abilities and glean insights from them is in truth an indicator of your own lack of cleverness! In fact you haven't stopped to consider that you should attempt not to interact with people less intelligent than yourself, but to instead surround yourself with people of a vaster wealth of knowledge and talent than you!

I ask, what achievement makes you seem more intelligent than other people? Where you born into great wealth? Are you exceptionally studious? Can you solve mathematical equations mentally with a great deal of ease? Or are you simply sharp as a tack with the ability to retrieve information from all of the books you have perused?

In my eyes, the inability to entertain a simpleton is a mark of impairment! Educate us, oh wise one!

>> No.9740399

>>9740389
>No individual of truly higher intellectual profundity would gauge themselves using an inaccurate measure such as the intelligence quotient
>self claimed IQ of 170
Opinion disregarded. Hypocrite within the first sentence.

>> No.9740413

>>9740399
Precisely my point! IQ tests are largely inaccurate and I have no issues admitting that mine is likely worth as little as yours. Learn to laugh, old chumsworth.

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>>9740413
not OP, just pointing out your complete inability to make a coherent argument.
There's nothing laughable about being a retard/acting like one. Pic related

>> No.9740447

>>9740389
>7'0"
you totally arent popping aleve like candy as you drive your convertible from the backseat of your car or anything

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9740455

>this thread is the textbook definition of retards taking the bait left and right
>mfw

>> No.9740472

>>9740413
what a boon!

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>>9740389
Fuck off lanklet

>>9740455
It's been fun
>mfw I thought mods would have deleted it by now

>> No.9740486

>>9740447
Rarely. Also, I drive a truck.

>> No.9740512

I never considered myself to be smart, but I do notice a lot of people around me are shallow and stupid. Not only are they obsessed with mindless materialism, they also have opinions on things they know nothing about. Well, as a human being, you need to have thoughts on everything, but I personally try not to talk about, for example, sports or politics, because I hardly know anything about them (the latter I know more than the former, though, because of history and philosophy). I often cringe when I talk with some of my colleagues because I really need to simplify my thoughts, as I know how they will react to them if I told them completely (think that I'm weird, not understand me completely or maybe at all etc.).
I just wish people to be more self-aware (and also to explore things like literature) and not materialistic, but on the other side, I think that if the majority became like that, this society wouldn't exist.

>> No.9740524

>>9740413
Get a load of this phony

>> No.9740566

>>9738345
>But if there is no one who desires to be miserable, there is no one, Meno, who desires evil; for what is misery but the desire and possession of evil?
>In uncertainty I am certain that underneath their topmost layers of frailty men want to be good and want to be loved. Indeed, most of their vices are attempted shortcuts to love.
>Talking to normies is wicked and sinful

Why is this still an assumption in this thread?

>> No.9740728

OP you're a fool, but at least you claim to want to improve. Here's my advice to you:

I think you must be unsatiable, if you are unwilling to pay the price for which these things are sold, and would have them for nothing. For how much is a coffee sold? A euro, for instance. If another, then, paying a euro, buys a coffee, and you, not paying it, go without it, don't imagine that he's gained any advantage over you. For as he has the coffee, so you have the euro which you did not give. So, in the present case, you are not involved in a certain social life, because you have not paid the price for which membership is sold. It is sold for the behaviours and opinions you've already written of. Pay the price, if it be for your advantage. But if you would, at the same time, not pay the one and yet receive the other, you are unsatiable, and a blockhead. Have you nothing, then, instead of the social life? Indeed you have. The question is, which one do you value more? You can't both have your cake and eat it.

>> No.9740875

>>9740728
>>9740728
i dont care about people and social circles
i want to stop being thirsty, thatis all

>> No.9740999

>>9735865
What the fuck is the point of Mensa anyway? Do they just circlejerk about how smart they are and do word puzzles or is there a benefit to joining? Saging this shit thread btw desu.

>> No.9741004

>>9740999
Mensa is gay as fuck
OP doesn't approve

>> No.9741610

>>9740512
I don't really think people are stupid most of the time. More likely they are ignorant, uninquisitive and lack the ability for or will for more abstract thinking. Egoism and socializing is more valued over extensive knowledge. This tends to leave the more silent observer as an outsider. Complex issues usually don't have simple solutions so people resort to knee jerk reactions such as "philosophy is useless handwaving". It's depressing for a person wanting more insightful exchange.

>> No.9741633

Why was this thread allowed to go on? I've checked /lit/ like 10 times since it was posted and it's still here. Props to you OP, the (You)'s must have been delicious.

>> No.9741642

>>9741633
Because it was sincere, and quite funny.

>> No.9742083

>>9736201
You are a social creature. You need something that amounts to friends, or at least something to regularly socialise with, otherwise your brain literally degrades.

>> No.9742094

>>9741633
Idk, I liked the side discussions and the fact that you can still feel like OP if you aren't a nihilistic degenerate but also feel ashamed that you're judgmental and become curious how to find some middle ground.

>> No.9742195

You're on /lit/. Read some books.

>> No.9742481

>>9741610
Well said, I completely agree, a lot of people have the potential to comprehend certain knowledge, but they don't want to. I want to say that this age dumbed us down (especially because of social networks), but it wasn't that much better in the old days.

>> No.9742521

I too don't want to degrade myself in order to engage in social activities, sometimes it's just too hard to do that. My whole existence (as I told it to myself) is based on self-improvement so dodging people that don't have anything to offer is logical, yet I can't surround myself with people that are better than me. I live in such a place where people like me are an anomaly.

Do I have to be a demigod to get to know other demigods?

>> No.9742522

>>9735865
>In reality, you're never gonna come across a woman on your level so either make do with hoes or spent your life in search of the illusive soulmate.

This hurts.

>> No.9743029

>>9742521
As someone in this thread said... Treat them as if they're geniuses and you can learn something from anyone.

Realistically, you CAN learn something from anyone, it's just not easy

>> No.9743106

>>9735781

Posting pictures of cartoon frogs online should help.

>> No.9743195

>>9735781
even if you are in the 99.9th percentile there are still around 7 million people on this planet in that percentile. if you are really having trouble socializing with people seek these smarties out yourself; I'm sure you can figure out the means if you're so smart.

but really highly intelligent people tend to be boring anyways and if you can't figure out answers to your own questions I question your own

>> No.9743239

>>9743195
I'm smarter than 99.9 percent of that 7 million too

>> No.9744055

>>9735990
>watching soccer
>triple digit iq

>> No.9744319

>>9738380
I mean.. is university not an option? At the very least, find a university town. You might be allowed to attend society events - find one that fits your interests, and you might find some friends.
Once you have those, it's much easier to warm up to other people.
I found the whole experience of forced socialising at university VERY helpful and enlightening.

>> No.9744337

>>9735809
That's a toad you moron

>> No.9744359

>>9744055
kek
I know this is a pleb passion, but I've always loved it since I was a toddler.
Why diminish someone for loving pleb things (since they have knowledge and passion for patrician things )? I bet you have a shit taste on music, for example.

>> No.9744389

>>9739091
I have a pet theory that the 'N'- component corresponds to the activity level of the default mode network at rest. I'm not so sure about its connection to other areas of the brain, or the differences between Ni and Ne. I imagine that Ni communicates more with long-term memory, and is more strongly coupled to the task-positive network, whereas Ne is more free-floating. idk. I just found this, which is interesting. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4999800/

However, I think sensors can be far more intelligent than Ns assume, just in a less intellectual way.

>> No.9744398

>>9744389
Shut up pseudo fag

>> No.9744402

>>9740248
Intelligence has nothing to do with final goals.

>> No.9744425

>>9744398
I hate you.

>> No.9745661

Why does it always come down to a question of intelligence? Why can't the debate be centered instead on simple openness to experience and knowledge and how to cultivate that in, if not the crowd, than at least the people that you associate with. >>9740102 >>9737986 has the right idea, but the shining example he means to set is a humanistic one. Where are our renaissance men? Look at the 'discussion' above and ask yourself. If all of these children were exposed, from youth, to the literature of the world, in the context of world history, with dialectical approach of philosophy and the humanities and social sciences in a concerted and thoughtful way by their teachers, they would grow up to be the shining exemplars for humanism that the modern world desperately needs. People not just with understanding of the foundations of the current world from many different points of view, but with a moral character tempered by the hard-won experience of others. I might even vote for someone like that.

>> No.9745848

>says he's intelligent
>autistic enough to make this thread

Yeah no.

>> No.9746237

>>9740999
It basically is for insecure people who feel that they are >undiscovered
Mensa basically gives them a piece of paper and farms money from them so that they can attend gatherings where they stand around

>> No.9746743

>>9744359
I am a classically trained pianist and organist.

If you want to discuss music thats fine, but its fundamentally subjective.

>> No.9746845

>>9742195
underrated

>> No.9747846

>>9735781

I am certain that 99,9% in this thread are not smart enough to give you advice you haven't thought of already.

Here's some advice:

Having fun and finding kinship doesn't require you to be on par or dumber than the other person, sometimes people bond over interests and activities, personality quirks and a common sense of humour that doesn't require you to be on equal footing in terms of intelligence. I think you might need to work on your personality more than you need to work on finding someone as smart as you, because even smart people don't like arrogance. Seeing as you probably don't live in a low IQ country meaning that the amount of people close to your level of intelligence is probably greater than a couple of people per hundred persons I would be inclined to believe that you haven't befriended any smart people because they do not wish to befriend you.

Get over yourself and have some fun, it's the smart thing to do.

>> No.9749381

>>9735781
I scored in the 99th percentile on multiple graduate school standardized tests, yet I don't know what people are talking about on this board half the time and I spend most of my conversations talking about television and sports.

>> No.9749887

I appreciate you, OP.

>> No.9749891

>>9749887

STOP BUMPING THIS THREAD YOU FUCKING FAGGOT FUCK

>> No.9749926

>>9747846
See you on the other side of the spiral :) It'll blow your mind; if you're ready

>> No.9751305

>>9749887
No worries my man

>> No.9751689

OP, what do you seek to achieve via this thread

>> No.9751835

>>9751689
I don't know now.
I'm surprised it's still up

>> No.9751866

The amount of posts ITT is close to my IQ score

The amount of IP's is close to yours

>> No.9751903

bump

>> No.9751936

>>9744389
Intelligent in a less...intellectual way?

>> No.9752073

>>9751305
No worries indeed my man

>> No.9752211

Bump

>> No.9752218

>>9752211
>>9751903
Stop bumping my thread faggot

>> No.9752229

>>9752218
Should've thought of that before making this thread. If you are so smart why didn't you foresee this?

>> No.9752233

>>9752218
>>9752229
Fuck off OP, stop bumping and quit samefagging. Let this thread die.

>> No.9752256

>>9752233
I'm not samefagging motherfucker
Some random keeps bumping the thread, not me.

>> No.9752264

>>9752256
OP here, I did the first two bumps, the third was another anon. I'm not sure who you are, this is my thread, anon.

>> No.9752270

>>9751903
>>9752211
>>9752218
>>9752229
>>9752256
Samefag

>> No.9752277

>>9735781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3fy0RYpU8Q

>> No.9752283

>>9752277
Thanks bro

>> No.9752288

>>9752264
>>9752256
In either case, you both need to stop bumping this thread.

>> No.9752294

Anyone got that screengrab with the /sci/ brainiac who constructed his own "simulator"? ?

You could do something like that op

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>>9752264
>>9752270
>>9752283
>>9752288
I'm OP

>> No.9752321

>>9752277
>>9752283
>Peterson
Lmao

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>>9752314
>I'm OP?
OP here, nice try loser.

>> No.9752402

>>9752354
Lmao

Ask a janitor to prove it

>> No.9753189

>>9735781
op is in for a rude shock one day. your attitude is fucked and not compatible with being a mature adult. peace

>> No.9753194

bumping this because we haven't seen this thread enough this past day

>> No.9753204

>>9753189
hey man, if you actually read this thread you would see i am not impure

>>9753194
hmm

>> No.9753933

>>9738190
Anyone under the age of 13 is generally easier to talk to than adults. Kids don't have agendas, and they're far less discriminatory.