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Anonymous Mon Jul 26 16:05:57 2010 No.969992 [Reply] [Original]

The Greatest Writer of the 20th century.
If you disagree, I demand a well written response refuting my claims.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 16:07:57 2010 No.970002 File: 28 KB, 300x400, kermit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The Greatest Writer of the 20th century. If you disagree, I demand a well written response refuting my claims.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 16:08:57 2010 No.970006 he isn't the greatest writer of the twentieth century. because there were greater writers, the last good thing he wrote was in the seventies, and he is very limited in his output. greatest songwriter maybe, greatest writer no.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 16:09:57 2010 No.970009 What claims?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 16:14:57 2010 No.970023 who is that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 16:15:57 2010 No.970028 man, this guy is always bugging me for change when i walk out of the convenience store.

>>	FrozenSpaceTuna !!tzkxWL+zzZy Mon Jul 26 16:26:57 2010 No.970071 >>970002 >No, I'm the batman!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 16:34:57 2010 No.970097 File: 19 KB, 270x319, eminem-headshot-grey.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The Greatest Writer of the 20th and 21st centuries. If you disagree, I demand a well written response refuting my claims.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 16:36:57 2010 No.970101 >>970097 Seamus Heaney approved btw

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 16:36:57 2010 No.970103 That's not Fred Durst

Anonymous Mon Jul 26 17:56:57 2010 No.970471
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>>969992
Because he isn't a writer or even a poet and has never claimed to be, he's a musician. His primary concern is the music, the lyrics are subordinate to the rhythm and the flow of the song. He's said as much himself in numerous interviews and his autobiography.

Your move OP.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 17:58:57 2010 No.970480 File: 9 KB, 288x247, wf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What the fuck you niggers doin in here?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 17:59:57 2010 No.970484 File: 31 KB, 400x479, thom-yorke-rankin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] id like to have word with you mr. dylan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 18:00:57 2010 No.970489 >>970484 Haha. Haha. Ha.

Anonymous Mon Jul 26 18:05:57 2010 No.970506

>>970471
To say Dylan isn't a poet is ridiculous, He has written over a thousand songs, the lyrics are almost never subordinate to the music. He always writes the lyrics first. And on his earlier albums only used a very basic flat picking guitar style to accompany the lyrics. The music is secondary and often changes. I think the socratic definition of a writer would be one who writes, and like I said he has written many many songs, a book of poetry, a very well written biography, and plans to write two more volumes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 18:25:57 2010 No.970586 File: 23 KB, 410x300, william s burroughs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] need i say more

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 18:52:57 2010 No.970746 Proust, Eliot, Joyce need anyone say more

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 19:20:57 2010 No.970955 File: 15 KB, 234x344, bob%20dylan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>970746 Proust, Eliot, Joyce. You are just mentioning names.

>>	Truman Capote !kwxizAOFlk Mon Jul 26 19:24:57 2010 No.970963 >>969992 >>970002

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 21:45:57 2010 No.971577 File: 27 KB, 299x348, dylan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Standing on the Ledge Thinking I'm gonna jump Hit the ground on my rump speed bump, camel hump this thread needs a bump.

Anonymous Mon Jul 26 21:53:57 2010 No.971615
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While I do think he is a great songwriter-heck,maybe the best-I consider James Joyce the greates writer of the 20th century. This man pushed language to its boundaries and then some with only a handful of books. His novels set the stage for modern literature while even his collection of short stories pushed the art form forward (The Dead is seen as one of the greatest short stories ever written).
His influence can be seen in countless modern writers and the wake he left on modern literature can still be felt to this day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 21:54:57 2010 No.971622 File: 3 KB, 103x126, 1252098148911.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>969992

Anonymous Mon Jul 26 21:54:57 2010 No.971618

Demand all you want. Demand a million dollars. Demand a gold-etched degree in Supreme Taste In The Arts from Oxford. Demand a hot dog slathered in caviar upon a gourmet honey whole wheat bun. Demand a chimp reciting Whitman in American Sign Language. Demand a concrete soap box with megapowered megaphones.
See how many you get.

You can spend endless hours trying to change water to wine, it's not going to happen, OP.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 21:55:57 2010 No.971625 "Blood On The Tracks" basically proves in one album that Dylan is the best songwriter ever.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 21:55:57 2010 No.971628 joker man

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 21:57:57 2010 No.971640 File: 107 KB, 344x344, oberst.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A CHALLENGER APPEARS

Anonymous Mon Jul 26 22:09:57 2010 No.971691
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I'm not saying he wasn't the best songwriter ever, he was, but he is also human and he never produced anything amazing like Blood on the Tracks or his 60's albums again.

As far as him being the best writer, the problem is that one could accuse his lyrics of sometimes having no meaning at all. Ballad of a Thin Man. A one eyed midget shouting the word now who tells you you are a cow? Maybe you could say that means something in context, but sometimes you just need a rhyme. He himself said he only stopped doing that, having lines just for the rhyme, when he got to John Wesley Harding.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 22:11:57 2010 No.971700 The Church is a 2000 year old man, trying to text and tweet, who doesn't understand his lack of relevance in culture anymore. Much like Bob Dylan.... Just thought of that quote, that said, Bob Dylan is heroic.

Stagolee !0Pey/QLK3E Mon Jul 26 22:13:57 2010 No.971701
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>>971640
I LOVE CONOR OBERST OH GOIDOS FISDOFJ SDFKSKDFSJ FHSJADKFCM,L XJOIHGIORVFJDK OCONROOCNORNCORNCORNCORNCORNCOECEORNOCCONOR
WELL I LOVE HIS BRIGHT EYES STUFF MOSTLY NOT SO MUCH THAT VALLEY BAND AND MONSTERS OF FOLK IS COOL TOO BUT BRIGHT EYES OH GOD OH MAN OH GOD OH MAN

>>	Stagolee !0Pey/QLK3E Mon Jul 26 22:13:57 2010 No.971703 File: 10 KB, 414x270, oh god oh man.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] OH MAN OH GOD OH MAN OH GOD OH MAN OH GOD OH MAN

>>	Stagolee !0Pey/QLK3E Mon Jul 26 22:15:57 2010 No.971712 AGAHDFGAGHFSDFDFGADFA AND I SING AND SING OF AWFUL THINGS THE PLEASURE THAT MY SADNESS BRINGS AS MY FINGERS PRESS ONTO THE STRINGS YET ANOTHER CLUMSY CHORD

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 22:15:57 2010 No.971713 File: 105 KB, 650x484, Kurt Vonnegut.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Stagolee !0Pey/QLK3E Mon Jul 26 22:17:57 2010 No.971717 DOES HE WALK AROUND ALL DAY AT SCHOOL LOOKING DOWN EVERY FEW STEPS TO PRETEND HE WALKS WITH YOU CONOR CONOR CONOR THIS IS NOW A CONOR THREAD

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 22:18:57 2010 No.971719 >>971717 heh, for a minute i thought you were capsguy. i was born and raised in the same town as connor oberst. for whatever that counts. im a fan, anyways.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 22:19:57 2010 No.971721 >>971717 Only bright eyes song I've ever liked

>>	Stagolee !0Pey/QLK3E Mon Jul 26 22:21:57 2010 No.971723 i like depressed conor more than happy hippie conor

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 22:21:57 2010 No.971724 T A L L W R I T T E N R E S P O N S E R E F U T I N G Y O U R C L A I M

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 22:22:57 2010 No.971728 File: 563 KB, 936x936, dylan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Poets: Sting Beck Dolby Cohen Haters gonna hate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 22:25:57 2010 No.971733 >>971728 DO DO DO DEE DA DA DA IT'S ALL I EVER SAY TO YOU

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 22:30:57 2010 No.971755 >>971728 SOY UN PERDEDOR! IMA LOSAH BABEH, SO WHY DONCHA KILL ME? (DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 03:58:57 2010 No.972894 File: 83 KB, 600x399, William S.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>970586 Not another word. You win you damn sex beast, keep reading good literature

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 04:09:57 2010 No.972920 File: 118 KB, 2580x338, 1278716941425.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 14457

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 04:10:57 2010 No.972930 File: 19 KB, 316x229, g face.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>971728 >Beck but no John McCrea

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 04:15:57 2010 No.972951 poke

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