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Expain in one sentence why I should start with the Greeks.

>> No.9616713

Alcibiades did nothing wrong.

>> No.9616724

>>9616701
Because all subsequent Western literature was influenced heavily by it

>> No.9616730

>>9616724
/thread

>> No.9616789

>>9616724
all Western thinking, in the strict sense.

>> No.9617102

>>9616701
Because civilization did.

>> No.9617629

>>9616701
You actually shouldn't. You should work your way backwards ENDING with the Greeks.

>> No.9617995

In order for later philosophical works to have a strong impact on you and to provoke self-discovery, it helps to have been primed by the works of Aristotle and Plato. Without their philosophical systems, you won't ask the same questions, and you won't understand the importance of a given philosophical inquiry or issue.

>> No.9618077

They wuz kangz and shiit

>> No.9618087
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9618087

do you want to end up like pic related?

>> No.9618102

>>9616701
They good.
>>9618087
Yes.

>> No.9618257

It's what the Greeks did.

>> No.9618444

>>9618087
Sounding like Kermit?

>> No.9618460

>>9618087

He looks like a tough police detective solving a big case in Little India.

>> No.9618464

>>9617102
Wrong. We merely forgot the earlier ones, or ignore them like Egypt. Which is interesting to think about - if Arabic conquest didn't occur, we could have a lot richer cultural heritage.

>> No.9618542

start with the greeks

>> No.9618550

>>9616701
So you can read about Alcibiades wacky sexcapades.

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9618555

Track down a copy of this anon and you'll know exactly why.

>> No.9618564

>>9618077
This post is a fuckin beauty. Look at this post. I WISH I was samefagging

>> No.9618569

>>9616701

How many Greeks do I need to read before I read other things?

If I were to read one what should it be?

>> No.9618570

>>9618555
i think fgts be shilling they ebay sales on here, anybody who pays 20 bucks for that shit is a tool

>> No.9618575

>>9618077
greek fetishists btfo

>> No.9618579

>>9618570
It's on libgen too, just went with the nicest-looking edition.

>> No.9618623

>>9616701
It teaches you how to think critically about all subsequent philosophy.

>> No.9618628

>>9616701
It'll save you a lot of trouble later on in your reading.

>> No.9618633

>>9618569
Plato's Republic, sophist, meno; Aristotle's ethics, politics, metaphysics, can read Epicurus if you want also. Then go to Descartes, Locke, Hume, Kant, Hegel, Leo Strauss, then back to the Greeks, then back to Hegel, then Nietzsche, then Leo Strauss again, then the greeks, then Hegel etc. Etc.

>> No.9618723

bumping just to know which greek i should start reading

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>> No.9618752

>>9616701
Starting wit the greeks is patrician.

>> No.9618824

>>9616724
>Sentence fragment
>WHY DID I GET POINTS COUNTED OFF?!
>"Did you read the instructions, anon?"

>> No.9618843

>>9616701
becuz da greeks wuz always up in they feelings thinkin bout shit and speakin da truth on them allegoricals, y'feel?

>> No.9619485

Know thyself!

>> No.9619623

>>9618742
thoughts on this boyos?

>> No.9620000

>>9619623
it's pretty mediocre. don't start with hamilton. begin with a history or cambridge companion to classical/archaic greece if you can deal with the format. for mythology, get kerenyi or hard. get the oxford greek lyrics+pindar if you wanna read em over the loeb. don't get waterfield, get literally any other book on presocs like the hackett one (the name escapes me).

>> No.9620006

>>9616701
Because the modern poets thought it was cool to make endless allusions to retarded Greek stories

>> No.9620017

I hate the ancient Greeks, and being forced to read them makes me hate them even more. Avoid at all costs!

>> No.9620479

>>9616701
because you're a pathetic piece of shit who does what other anonymous person on the internet tells them to do

>> No.9620486

i would sage this thread if i wasnt angry.

>> No.9620629

You're too stupid to understand the meme ergo you will inevitably choose wrongly, i.e. it does not matter if you do or don't start with the Greeks.

>> No.9620658

>>9617102
The Mesopotamians would like a word with you.

>> No.9620689

>>9616701
Plato disproved nihilism many times.

>> No.9620696

>>9620689
Learn how to disprove nihilism with this one weird trick

>> No.9620733

>>9620696

Ha,

******May ruin fantasies of becoming totalitarian ruler of universe.

>> No.9621555

>>9616724
Because all subsequent Western *culture was influenced heavily by it