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>start with the bible

Is he right?

>> No.9509147

why bother

>> No.9509172

>>9509147
Probably because nearly everyone in the west after the second century borrowed parts of it and it's the biggest influential work bar none there?

>> No.9509178

>>9509172
so all the important parts are out there in popular (and unpopular) culture.

>> No.9509218

>>9509172
to play the devil's advocate, the bible has no place in society anymore since nation-states and scientific progress replaced dynastic regimes and theology as the primary modes of meaning making, respectively. It's influence in culture is negated by its prevalence, and aside from getting a clearer narrative about the book from which x expression comes from, it is largely unnecessary.

>> No.9509259

>>9509218
But how else will I realize Batman v Superman was really about jesus?

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>>9509218
>you can find meaning in science

>> No.9509339

>>9509326
>with

>> No.9509997

>>9509218
It'll have meaning again after the nuclear eradication war

>> No.9510005

>>9509218
>What other people claim is relevant
Trust their actions, not their lying mouths.

>> No.9510592

>>9509218
that's exactly the point brother.

Jordan Peterson, and all other modernism revivalists, classicists, and reactionaries, think that those systems of meaning are fundamentally and disastrously insufficient, and this is exactly what Nietzche is warning about in the Gay Science when he proclaims that God is dead.

Your criticism is their argument, namely yes, those things are the "primary modes of meaning making" and that they are destructive and not conducive to the health of the individual and consequently the family and consequently society.

>> No.9510626

>>9509218
>X has replaced Y, therefore Y is has no value or merit

>> No.9510729

>>9509142
It should be just a detour, you can take it as your point of departure but why you would start or end with one particular take on things is just totally idiocentric

>>9510592
Whole nations did reject mechanics but it just caused them to stagnate and become weak until they had to (or were colonized) and embrace modernity. If you're going to survive as an entity you have to precognitively assimilate conceptions, which contradict Christian dogma, into a common sense interpretation of the world.

>> No.9510754

>>9509218
I agree completely! Also, I think we should stop eating and using egg whites and yolk as long as we have supremely crunchy eggshells to eat...

>> No.9511171

Why not Marxism?
If you have to pick one particular flavor of Judaism For Goys™, you may as well install the contemporary version of these superstitions.

>> No.9511473

Honestly, if you are someone who is born and raised in the West, you likely already know enough about the basics of Christian mythology via social osmosis that you don't really need to read it.

That's not to say that reading it is somehow a bad thing, though. If you want to read it, go for it.

You don't have to "start" with it though. That's just a meme that the "traditionalist" christposters here spread around.

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>> No.9511915

>>9509997
Does it really though? One of the reasons why I dislike the movie Eli was that in my mind the Bible doesn't have much ground to stand on without its cultural surroundings and dynamics going on at its time. Of course it could repeat itself that way after thermonuclear holocaust but I doubt it.

>> No.9511992

>>9509142
he's the poster child for a socially acceptable/moderated form of christian radicalism/fascism. he's kind of a useful idiot.