Read Solzhenitsyn

[Anonymous No.9457675]

[Anonymous No.9457679]

No thanks, I prefer non-fiction.

[Anonymous No.9457684]

>>9457679
First post really is best post.

[Anonymous No.9457688]

>>9457675
Jordan Peterson is a genius.

[Anonymous No.9457716]

>>9457675
Can this goober even read russian.

[Anonymous No.9457720]

>>9457716
He can see Russian from his house.

[Anonymous No.9457730]

B-But, I'm reading Dostoevsky right now, Jordan-sensei...

[Anonymous No.9457764]

I read athenGulag Archipelago several years ago.

I don't know what he thinks I should have gotten from it.

[Anonymous No.9457832]

I'm too busy sorting myself out tbqh.

[Anonymous No.9457864]

oops I accidentally read Marx

[Anonymous No.9457865]

hha le meme

[Anonymous No.9457888]

>>9457675
200 Years Together - Best English translation to date
http://www.mediafire.com/file/q7znvoozoucw9oq/Aleksandr+Solzhenitsyn+-+200+Years+Together.pdf

For individual chapters/updates or other formats (epub, mobi, djvu)
https://twohundredyearstogether.wordpress.com/

[Anonymous No.9457898]

hha le meme

[Anonymous No.9457915]

>>9457679
But it is non-fiction?

[Anonymous No.9457929]

>>9457915
Technically, so is your mom's diary, so it isn't a particularly helpful descriptor.

[Anonymous No.9459298]

>>9457679
You don't belong here.

[Anonymous No.9459312]

>>9459298
gonna need you to go back to r/books right now

[Anonymous No.9459316]

>>9457675
I have this edition, is this good? Or should I shell out to find the individual volumes

[Anonymous No.9459390]

>>9459312
>>ancient back to rebiit meme

[Anonymous No.9459440]

>

[Anonymous No.9459479]

>>9459440
One uninformed tweet is all it takes for contrarian fags on 4chan to dismiss everything someone is saying.

[Anonymous No.9459498]

>>9459479

more like proof that someone is incapable of thinking critically is all it takes to dismiss everything someone is saying

[Anonymous No.9459504]

>>9459440
>as Godel proved
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.9459532]

>>9459498
How, exactly, is he incapable of critical thinking simply because he tweeted on a topic he obviously doesn't know a lot about?

Literally no one is perfect, and you're just using it as an excuse to dismiss him because that was what you were going to do to begin with.

[Anonymous No.9459534]

>>9457679
Marxism prevails again!

[Anonymous No.9459538]

>>9459532
He's an unironic Jungian in the 21st century dude, he says stupid shit every second sentence and that's while trying to hide his power level

[Anonymous No.9459542]

>>9459504

He has literally no idea what he's talking about.
Godel proved that there are some statements that are true but impossible to prove no matter what the axioms, not that axioms are a prerequisite for proof.
The idea of deriving proofs from a set of axioms goes back to Euclid and the Greeks, it wasn't "proved" by Godel.

[Anonymous No.9459558]

>>9459538
>He's an unironic Jungian in the 21st century dude

So what, there are unironic Marxists in the 21st century too, that's not any less retarded.

[Anonymous No.9459569]

>>9459558
Marx for all his problems is at least redeemable for his work in structurally analysing class and society.
Believing in shit like archtypes is horoscope tier

[Anonymous No.9459572]

>>9459558
How many of them are uneducated niggers who just started reading that one book the youtube celebrity recommended them, though?

[Anonymous No.9459580]

>>9459532

you don't think that tweet is the exact kind of mumbo-jumbo he would criticize if someone else used it to defend Marxism or whatever?

the tweet proves he has a blindspot for logic and scepticism, which he would apply to other things, when it comes to trying to prove something he already believes is true (existence of god), hence why it shows he cannot think critically.

[Anonymous No.9459583]

>>9459569
>historicism is redeemable

This is how I know Marxists are simply religious zealots.

[Anonymous No.9459587]

>>9459558
>that's not any less retarded.

yeah it is

[Anonymous No.9459592]

>>9459583
>analyzing the progress of history based on material conditions instead of ideas is bad
found the idealist

[Anonymous No.9459593]

>>9459583
>emergent phenomena are determined by the limitations of their material base

Woah easy with the pot dude

[Anonymous No.9459609]

>>9459592
>"progress of history"

Yeah, you people are literally no different than the average religious person.

[Anonymous No.9459613]

>>9459592
>progress of history
What?

[Anonymous No.9459635]

>>9457679
Was the CIA operative a prison guard?

[Anonymous No.9459644]

>>9459613

the way humanity has moved from hunter-gathers living in caves, to simple agrarian farmers, to feudal subjects, to industrialised workers

progress doesn't necessarily mean improvement in this context, it's just a way of analysing how and why the conditions of human life have changed over time and continue to do so

you don't have to be a bleeding-heart socialist to see that material conditions have been an important factor in these changes of ways of life

[Anonymous No.9459672]

>>9459644
>the way humanity has moved from hunter-gathers living in caves, to simple agrarian farmers, to feudal subjects, to industrialised workers
Nice myth. In reality, God created humans to serve Jews. Cars exist because Jews have a need for them.

[Anonymous No.9459679]

>>9459672
Who created Jews and for what reason?

[Anonymous No.9459683]

>>9459609
>>9459613
progress of productive forces to be precise

[Anonymous No.9459690]

>>9459558
Well, even if you disagree with how marxists propose to amend societal issues, you cannot doubt there exists some of what marx identified in society.

[Anonymous No.9459691]

>>9457675

Ann Applebaum's book on the gulag system was more accessible and a better read.

[Anonymous No.9459697]

>>9459683
There is no "progress of productive forces".

[Anonymous No.9459701]

>>9459644
what you've identified is change, not progress. Of course environmental and material changes invoke further changes, but progress? No, not necessarily.

[Anonymous No.9459707]

>>9459672

haha epic troll bro xD

[Anonymous No.9459716]

>>9459701

yeah that's exactly what I said if you read the post, retard

>progress doesn't necessarily mean improvement in this context, it's just a way of analysing how and why the conditions of human life has changed

[Anonymous No.9459725]

>>9459701

yeah that's exactly what I said if you read the post, retard

>progress doesn't necessarily mean improvement in this context, it's just a way of analysing how and why the conditions of human life has changed
>have been an important factor in these changes of ways of life

I said upfront it's a a way of analysing change and doesn't necessarily mean improvement

[Anonymous No.9459732]

>>9459701
>what you've identified is change, not progress

Jesus Christ you're dumb, you realize things like Cancer "progress". Its about the fact that more advanced stages are materially dependent on the existence of previous conditions and have inherent tendencies towards further developments.

[Anonymous No.9459739]

>it's a /pol/ discovers marxist critique of progressivism episode

brb taking a train to Portugual Jesus fucking Christ you people are dumb

[Anonymous No.9459797]

>>9459732
>Its about the fact that more advanced stages are materially dependent on the existence of previous conditions and have inherent tendencies towards further developments.

Except this isn't true, and is literally just the figment of Marxist imagination.

Literally read The Poverty of Historicism by Karl Popper.

[Anonymous No.9459808]

>>9459797
>Literally read
what did he meaned by this?

[Anonymous No.9459813]

>>9459808
>Use sophist meme in an attempt to improve the quality of the board
It'll work.

[Anonymous No.9459819]

>>9459797
Bullshit it is. Unless you think it was possible to create an assembly line of automobiles in Bronze Age Europe or that universal literacy wasn't a natural product of industrialization.
Historicism isn't about inevitability its about conditions and tendencies in the same way an Egg in the right conditions will tend towards a Chicken

[Anonymous No.9459827]

>>9459819
>Unless you think it was possible to create an assembly line of automobiles in Bronze Age Europe or that universal literacy wasn't a natural product of industrialization.

Of course these things were *possible*.

The idea that they weren't *possible* would mean that the physical laws of the universe didn't apply the same way then that they do now.

[Anonymous No.9459848]

>>9459542
Thanks for this post.

[Anonymous No.9459858]

>>9459827
You're being incredibly disingenuous now.
You know well the difference between speaking of it as literally impossible and practical liability to occur

[Anonymous No.9459864]

>>9459858
Either way, the reason they weren't possible, was certainly not because class struggle hadn't reached the historical proportions that you think governs the human society.

[Anonymous No.9459884]

>>9457679

[Anonymous No.9459891]

>>9459864
In a great sense yes it was. No large scale industrial working class meant no car factories

[Anonymous No.9459892]

>>9459864
This isn't the other anon's point and you're either being dishonest or extremely dumb.

[Anonymous No.9459904]

>>9459891
>In a great sense yes it was.

No, it wasn't. Killing capitalists doesn't give you the knowledge to create space ships.

[Anonymous No.9459946]

>>9459904
That's not what class conflict refers to. You seem to have a very literal and face value understanding of it.
Its essentially a matter of human desire being the driving force of society and how different people have different and shared interests based on their position in the structure by which they achieve that desire

[Anonymous No.9459973]

>>9457675

He's going to be our Varg, isn't he?

[Anonymous No.9459974]

>>9459946
It is what class conflict refers to, which is why in any place where Marxists get the wheels of government, private property owners suddenly die and are expropriated in huge numbers.

[Anonymous No.9459981]

>>9459974
I'd like to get a source on that please, since you seem to be so well versed on Marx' oeuvre

[Anonymous No.9459983]

>>9459974
Good, certainly got the Russians their spaceships in either case

[Anonymous No.9460030]

>>9459983
I'm pretty sure these things don't correlate at all, but I guess anything is possible when you're a delusional leftist.

[Anonymous No.9460053]

>>9460030
Yeah have a good afternoon pal

[Anonymous No.9460071]

>>9459572
>what is zizek?