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Let's talk about racism. I got accused of being a racist by one of my ex-boyfriends (which is ironic because he is black himself), and I think it's bullshit. If we are allowed to judge people based on the quality of their character then there is nothing wrong with hating most blacks. Most American blacks are lazy, stupid (all the standardized test scores in history are not wrong), uneducated, violent, and annoying. What's wrong with saying that if it's true? Political correctness has killed the ability to really judge people based on their merits.

>> No.945383
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945383

Don't make me say it

>> No.945387

You're a racist. Whether or not your views are correct, they are clearly racist. You are arguing that racism is correct.

>> No.945396

>>945387
That's not correct in my opinion, though I suppose it depends on how you define racism. I'm perfectly willing to admit that some black people are great (hello, I dated one), and I give each individual a fair chance to prove they're cool. The fact that most black people suck doesn't mean I hate blacks generally.

>> No.945397

You are arguing in support of an ill-informed, illogical, unfounded generalization, which has notable exceptions.
Your views are racist, troll.

>> No.945401

You're either a troll or a racist. There's nothing wrong with judging people based on their character. See, your racism comes in (if not troll) when you proceed to make judgments or blanket statements about character based upon race.
You're either a troll or a racist.

>> No.945402

>>945396
one of the implications of your argument is that blacks are inherently less intelligent than non-blacks - and that, in general, blacks are more violent and behave worse than whites

the belief that one race is inherently superior to another is racism

therefore, you are a racist, since you hold racist beliefs

qed

>> No.945407

Then you would have to argue that most whites are self absorbed, petty, rhythm-less cubicle drones who treat their anxieties with multitudes of pills and have lost all interest in culture and heritage.

>> No.945415

>>945402
Where did he/she say that blacks were worse than whites, or any other race for that matter?

>> No.945416

>>945407
Also that they let TV raise their kids and as such are shitty parents in general.

>> No.945417

>>945396

How many black people have you met and in how many different places and from how many different backgrounds?

I grew up in Mississippi and all whites are ignorant hicks.

I grew up in Jersey and all Italians are shallow faggy guidos.

I grew up in Seattle and all whites are queer coffee-sipping hipsters.

Etc.

>> No.945424

>>945397
My views are not uninformed, nor am I making an over-generalization. Can you admit that it would be possible to be a non-racist if you gave every individual a chance, but noticed that most members of one group tended to suck? Ignore my views and answer hypothetically.

>>945401
What's racist about that? Statistics can be manipulated, but they do not lie.

>>945402
This is trivially true based on your definition of racism. I do not agree with it- making a non-normative statement such as "blacks are less intelligent than whites, on average" doesn't have to be "racist" since you don't have to judge black people to be inferior.

>> No.945427

AND THIS HAS WHAT TO DO WITH LITERATURE?

>> No.945429

You're a nigger fucking slut. How does that feel?

>> No.945432

>>945402
This is true but it is statistically verifiable. Perhaps it is not worse to be racist than delusional.

>> No.945436

>>945416
They're better parents than blacks, if the average wealth and average level of education of their children is any indication of parental success.....

>> No.945440

>>945417
I've met blacks from all over the country, but I prefer to base my views on statistical facts, rather than personal experiences. Anecdotes are NOT reliable sources of information.

>>945429
It feels good MAN

>> No.945445

>>945440
Personally, I believe experience is the greatest teacher. But whatever.

>> No.945452

not literature

>> No.945453

>>945445
dumb dumb

>> No.945454

>I got accused of being a racist by one of my ex-boyfriends >ex-boyfriend
>Most American blacks are lazy, stupid
>ex-boyfriend

Sweetie get over him. Your rage is being fueled by your black ex - how lame is it that you're that easily manipulated?

>> No.945458

>>945454
I got over him a long time ago because he's a selfish jerk. He's one of those guys who is really funny and charming, yet totally self absorbed.

>> No.945460

>>945429
I honestly expected this one in the first post.

>> No.945464

>>945436
Wealth and education mean jack shit. Most of these grow up never seeing their parents because they're always working, get into drugs, hen mellow out, then go to school for business because that what makes them money. They hate their job so they kill the pain with alcohol and vicodine while buying retardedly expensive shit they don't need. Meanwhile their kids are growing up the exact same way their parents did.

Tell me what's healthy about all that?

>> No.945467

>>945458
No, you haven't. Otherwise you wouldn't be so racist.

SORRY2SAY.

>> No.945468

>>945407
It's true though...

>> No.945469

>>945458
Meaning he gets tons of pussy. Damn bitch, you got PLAAAAAYED!

>> No.945471

>>945464
>well and education mean jack shit

you poor deluded nigger

>> No.945473

Head trip incoming:

You're racist if you think the fact that you dated a black man matters.

You're racist if you think that someone's race connects them in any way to others of that race.

It's not that "x percent of such is bad with promonent exceptions," it's that the line you're dividing them on is based on race.

It's like claiming that America isn't racist because there are a certain number of black judges in the supreme court. It's still racist, because you're still counting.

>> No.945477

>Complaining about American blacks being uneducated and violent when they were enslaved for hundreds of years and are living under poor societal conditions as a result

HURR

>> No.945478

ITT: Idiots and trolls

>> No.945479

Poster is ignorant, and this isn't a /lit/ topic. Go back to/b/

>> No.945480

>>945467
yes. i have.

>>945469
he does get a lot of pussy, but he wasn't trying to play me when we were dating. i ended up dumping him for the reason i mentioned above: he's a jerk. he still wants to fuck me, though.

>> No.945484

the problem here is that racial attitudes/ways of thinking is a bit hardwired. it's not "natural" in some determinist sense, it is just easy to fall into without consciously choosing to do so.

then we have the idea that when you are accused of racism, you think it means you have committed an intentional and malicious offense. there is a high chance that the racial attitude you are accused of is habitual/cultural and you don't have any conscious experience of being racist.

>> No.945487

>>945473
This. It's like sitting next to a black person on the bus instead of a white person just to prove to yourself that you aren't racist. You're still racist because you thought about it.

>> No.945489

>>945477
Blacks were violent and dangerous before they were brought to America. Research the history of sub-Saharan Africa if you want to get an idea of what I am taking about; never forget that it was blacks who ran the slave trade in Africa for European trading partners.

As for American blacks, what can be done to help them has been done. They are responsible for their own failure.

>> No.945491

>>945473
Your definition of racism is way too broad. I don't agree with it, obviously.

>> No.945495

OP is mad cuz her new bf has a 5" whereas her ex had a 9" that made her scream like a banshee.

>> No.945497

>>945489
>Blacks were violent and dangerous before they were brought to America

Guess you never heard of the Anglo-Saxons, huh?

>> No.945498

COULD YOU JUST FUCK OFF?

LET'S TALK ABOUT BOOKS. STARTED THE STRANGER TODAY, AND AM UP TO PART 2. IT'S AN ENJOYABLE READ, ONE I HOPE TO GET DONE BEFORE I GO TO SLEEP.

>> No.945499

>>945489

Spoiler: Everyone was violent and racist in the past. Most still are in the present.

>> No.945502

>>945495
Eh, big dicks are kinda inconvenient. Bitches complain about it hurting so when you get into it, they start crying and it just kills the mood.

>> No.945504

>>945491

It isn't broad. It's the fact that race fits a large criteria when you regard a human person. You don't agree with it, because you're a stupid slut, and you think that your opinion has anything to do with reality.

>> No.945505

>>945497
>>945499
You're missing my point. It's not sensible to claim that white oppression made American blacks violent and dangerous because blacks were already violent and dangerous before they came to America. Idiots.

>> No.945506

>>945489

>Blacks were violent and dangerous before they were brought to America. Research the history of sub-Saharan Africa if you want to get an idea of what I am taking about; never forget that it was blacks who ran the slave trade in Africa for European trading partners.

Meanwhile Europeans where all for peace, right? I mean, the colonies where akin to Eden.


>As for American blacks, what can be done to help them has been done. They are responsible for their own failure.

Randroid detected. It must be nice to type all of this from your the Mac your parents bought you, suburban sheltered faggot.

>> No.945508

>>945502
CAPSGUY AGREES. MY PENIS IS AROUND 19CM WHEN HARD, AND I ONLY GO FOR ASIAN GIRLS. IF THEY'RE NOT USED TO IT, IT CAN BE A MINOR INCONVENIENCE.

>> No.945509

>>945504
Stupid slut? I bet I'm smarter than you, as you obviously don't seem to understand how semantics work.

>>945506
I'm very spoiled, I won't lie about that. daddy's little princess etc

>> No.945510

>>945498
>>945498

awesome book. read it man, it changed my life.

back to the topic at hand

>>945505

And whites were a bunch of pussies. And they still are. I bet when you walk in town, you don't dare looking at a black man in the eyes. Pussy.

>> No.945511

>>945505
Whites are just as violent and indignant as blacks. Look at tea baggers and supremecists. Not to mention the 'hunters' with vast reserves of automatic fire-arms.

>> No.945515

>>945509

>As for American blacks, what can be done to help them has been done. They are responsible for their own failure.

>I'm very spoiled, I won't lie about that. daddy's little princess etc

mybrainisfulloffuck.exe

>> No.945518

>>945509

I don't think you even understand what semantics ARE.

And I'll take your bet.

I'm smarter than you, because I'm a man, and men have double the amount of highest IQ's in the top 2% than women.

>> No.945519

>>945511
What sort of fantasy world do you live in? Are you really comparing the tea party movement to violent killers? Really?

Whites are not nearly as violent as blacks. Blacks commit most of the violent crime in the country despite being a minority. The numbers do not lie.

>> No.945524

>>945515
Some people are born into money and get spoiled. >>945518
I can't fault your logic, but in this case statistics would fail you.

>> No.945525

>>945519
You know what, I'll bite, what fucking numbers are you gathering this information from?

>> No.945529

>>945525

Conservapedia

>> No.945530

I hate spoiled women like you OP. If your father had any sense he would have taken his belt to you when you were a little girl, but you were probably manipulating by the time you were 5. White girls exercise tremendous power over their "daddies".

>> No.945533

>>945519
Violent killers? You realize you're labelling all black people as violent killers now. I'll spell it out for you because you'll never grasp it in your current mind frame.

You. Are. A. Racist.

>> No.945536

>>945525
This is very well known stuff.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=JU8&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aoff
icial&q=black+crime+rate&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Pick a link, any link.

>> No.945542

NIGGERS

>> No.945543

>>945533
I am not saying all black people are violent killers-I don't think they are, though blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime. The person I was responding to was comparing the tea party to violent killers and I responded to him in an appropriate manner.

>> No.945549

Did you feel superior when you were guzzling black cum you racist slut?

>> No.945552

>>945536
>Skewed data

Wow, you're smart all right. You realize if you go looking for correlations, no matter what, you'll find them, right?

You're as bad as those idiots who think violent video games turn kids into sociopaths.

>> No.945555
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945555

OP here. This is a gif I made from one of my videos. In the video I was in the middle of a debate about racism.

>> No.945558

>>945552
What is skewed about the data?

>> No.945562

>>945543
What about embezzling money? What about fraud?

The travesties performed by America's biggest investment firms cause more damage to the nation than any amount of petty muggings.

>> No.945565

>>945555
Pretty much spot on.

>> No.945566

>>945536

if you weren't a stuck up racist bitch, you'd know that you can manipulate and skew data in ways that would blow your stupid brain.

>> No.945567
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945567

It's okay to hate people if the numbers show that they deserve to be hated.

>> No.945568

>>945552

Haha. Except that they don't even have any numbers to support them, just "testimonials."

Violence in media has never been as graphic as it is today, and violent crime in America has been dropping steeply for over twenty years.

Correlation doesn't imply causation, but it can certainly dismiss it.

>> No.945569

>>945567

>/new/ poster on /lit/

THIS THREAD IS GOING PLACES

>> No.945570

>>945558
errrrrrrrrr, you actually think skin color is the right explanatory variable, instead of social context variables?

learn to statistics

>> No.945571

>>945566
It's possible to trick people using statistics, but in this case the evidence is clear. Blacks commit a shit load of violent crime. Period.

>> No.945572
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945572

DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU, PROUD WHITE PERSON

>> No.945573

>>945558
You're looking for data that proves that black cause a disproportionate amount of crimes, so you are going to be directed to surveys with skewed information because, for the groups paying for it, the results support their ideals.

If you want any sort of unbiased results, you have to have the gatherings done blindly by an unbiased party not specifically looking for black crime rate, but crime rates in general.

>> No.945574

>>945568
MY COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED AS A CONVICT SETTLEMENT, AND WE'VE HAD LOWER CRIME RATES THAN THE US SINCE LIKE, FOREVER.

DOES THAT SAY SOMETHING?

>> No.945577
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945577

Explain THIS

>> No.945578

>>945570
You shouldn't make assumptions about my views (you always do that when you argue with people). Poor white people commit less violent crimes than poor black people so if you control for socioeconomic status the statements I've made about black crime will still be true.

>> No.945580

>>945570

This.
What we've been trying to tell you is that the line you're basing this on is race. Even if you want to not be racist, the fact that race becomes a point of argument for you shows that you have some misgivings to overcome.

>> No.945581

>>945578

There are less poor white people.

>> No.945584

>>945574
You're also approaching 1984 status faster than America, how does THAT feel?

>> No.945585

>>945578
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SINGLE GENERATION DATA

>> No.945586
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945586

>>945574

Australians still have white genes, black genes however, have a tendency top stay.

Pic related, black people still underperformed when money is taken into account.

>> No.945587

>>945571

right, its because they are black. No way it can be to the fact that they live in poor areas, receive poor education, have very few job opportunities. Nope, THERE BLACK AND THEY ARE BAD. PERIOD

holy shit girl. you are STUPID.

>> No.945590

>>945573
Data on crime does not come from independent researchers looking up shit on google, it comes from government agencies who track convictions and such. And guess what? It is objectively true that a disproportionate number of violent criminals behind bars are black. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

>> No.945592

>>945519
You want violent whites? Look at Eastern Europe. Look at northern Asia. Look at poor white kids in low income, urban neighborhoods here. They go to jail too for committing the same crimes.

>> No.945593
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945593

EXPLAIN THIS, LIBURLS

>> No.945594

>>945581
Completely false. There are far more whites than there are blacks in the United States so the number of poor whites is greater than the number of poor blacks in absolute terms.

>> No.945598

INTERNET FILTERING HASN'T BEEN PASSED YET. SO THAT COMMENT IS INVALID.

WANT 1984ISH COUNTRIES? GO TO ENGLAND!

AND, OUR COUNTRY HAS MORE ETHNICS IN COMPARISON TO THE TOTAL POPULATION THAN THE US DOES I BELIEVE... WE LIVE IN HARMONY. SOMETIMES...

>> No.945599
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945599

Fucking niggersm fucking savages...

>> No.945602

>>945587
Poor whites don't commit crime at nearly the same rate so there is something about the black community that drives them to commit crime. It could be a "gangsta" culture that celebrates violence, or it could be some genetic factor. I don't know what is causing them to be violent...still...they are

>> No.945604

>>945594
and whites with a slavery background? whites with a history of being black in america? hurr?

>> No.945605

>>945587
Jesus christ, fucking this.

Do you know the secret to getting a job anywhere? Connections. Meaning you know someone who already works there, which means people who lived in a shit hole their entire lives are SOL when competing against the supervisor's best friend's nephew.

That's not even counting the poor quality of education in poor areas while the rich areas have better funding for their schools.

The rich get richer and the poor stay poor.

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945607

Damn dirty niggers

>> No.945608

>>945594

Yet the poverty in America is nowhere near evenly distributed between races. Come on, girl. Are you just trolling, or are you actually having a problem understanding this?

>> No.945610

>>945598
Your video games are still ridiculously overpriced, though.

>> No.945611

>>945604
Those things are connected to be black so in this case race would be the explanatory variable, and your original critique would be wrong, as you were chiding me for using it. In any case, as I said before, blacks were violent before slavery so you cannot say that slavery caused blacks to be violent. And everything that can be done to help blacks has been done.

>> No.945612

>>945590

>It is objectively true that a disproportionate number of violent criminals behind bars are black

No one is arguing that, genius. What we are arguing is the fact that your stupid brain thinks that race determines criminality, when a much simpler explanation is most likely the right one, like, I dont know MAYBE BLACKS DO NOT RECEIVE THE SAME EDUCATION AND OPPORTUNITIES AS WHITES, THEREFORE THEY TURN TO A LIFE OF CRIME.

Holy shit. You are supposed to be the master race. Why can't you understand something so simple?

>> No.945613

i'm fucking sick of this shit

you want to know what the truth is? they aren't just stupid blacks. they're stupid HUMANS. you'll find just about the same percentage of stupid fucking morons in every 'race' because guess what, the only race is the fucking human race you spastic fucking retards.

sage in all fields.

>> No.945614

>>945608
I didn't say it was "evenly distributed", whatever that means. I said there were more poor whites than poor blacks, which is true. The % of blacks that is poor is higher, but since whites are more numerous there are still more poor whites than there are poor blacks. Please stop being so stupid

>> No.945617

>>945612

Hey. Hey. Whoa.

White MEN are the masters, boy. Keep it straight, Toby.

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945618

>>945611
>Those things are connected to be black so in this case race would be the explanatory variable

holy fuck you are dumb.

>> No.945619
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945619

HA HA HA HA

NIGGERS

>> No.945622

>>945610
AND THAT HAS WHAT TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING?

I DON'T EVEN PLAY VIDEO GAMES ANYMORE. MIGHT GET THE NEW HALO THOUGH.

>> No.945627

>>945612
1. Some people did dispute that and asked me to post some evidence in support of my claim so you are wrong.
2. As I have already said, blacks violent before they came to the United States, and poor whites (who also lack opportunities) do not turn to violence.

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945628

>> No.945633

>>945611
Redistribution of funding for better schools in low income areas hasn't been done (in the U.S.). Poor kids go to shitty schools. If you want to improve a group's behavior, improve their social conditions. Cut welfare benefits and put them into institutions like school.

>> No.945634

>>945618
Are you mocking my typo? I'll take this as a concession since you are obviously out of arguments. Bye bye now

>> No.945636

>>945612

HA AH HA HA HA

THEN EXPLAIN WHY ASIANS AND HISPANICS DO BETTER THAN NIGGERS

>> No.945638

>blacks were violent before slavery so you cannot say that slavery caused blacks to be violent.

Whites wiped out the entire native population of my country. But its ok, whites are less violent, right?


>And everything that can be done to help blacks has been done.

Its funny how you admit that you are a sheltered, spoiled brat yet you come up with these conclusions. Daddy isn't always right, you stupid cunt.

>> No.945643

>>945638

Your shit race deserved to die. DARWINISM, MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU UNDERSTAND IT?

>> No.945644

>>945633
A fair point, but I was talking about what we can do for blacks specifically (that sort of program would help all poors). Though I'm not sure how much good it would do since some studies have sown that spending more money does not cause test scores to rise (as we would expect if they were caused by genetic factors).

>> No.945647

>>945638
Second to both. Sorry if your people were killed by the Spanish. Our bad.

>> No.945652

>>945638
There was a lot of genocide in Africa before whites came there, and there is still a lot of genocide in Africa. If you want to be realistic, it was western whites who first stopped committing genocide.

My daddy loves me and buys me presents because I'm his lil pumpkin. u mad?

>> No.945655

>>945644

Money and a good education do not go hand in hand unless the people with the money are your parents.

We need a better school system. What we have now is glorified babysitting. Even college is turning into this.

>> No.945658

I have met good and bad people of all races. The majority of people I meet are good. There are exceptions to this, and I have to say the majority of exceptions have been black people. Men, women and children some of the most negative memories I have with regards to interacting with people come from these ill behaved black folk.

>> No.945659

>>945627
poor whites don't turn to crime as much because of white privilege hurr durr they still have more opportunity than minorities even if they are less wealthy and educated

>> No.945660

A not inconsiderable percentage of blacks are niggers.

A not inconsiderable percentage of whites are white trash and/or rednecks.

Etc. Etc.

I'm an equal opportunity hater.

>> No.945661

>>945634
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicollinearity

correlated variables does not mean you can use the variables interchangeably, because being black is physically very different and distinct from being poor or underprivileged.

>> No.945662

I disagree with OP strongly, but she has been wiping the floor with the people attempting to argue with her. onionring got pwned pretty hard.

>> No.945663

>>945627

>Some people did dispute that and asked me to post some evidence in support of my claim so you are wrong.

I said in my post that no one is arguing that. i know that there are more blacks in jail than whites. What I am telling you is that it has nothing to do with race.

>blacks violent before they came to the United States, and poor whites (who also lack opportunities) do not turn to violence

I live in a small canadian town. I go to the local college. Guess who are the ones "niggering" this town with drugs, underage pregnancies and crime? Thats right bitch, your glorious master race in this town, 20% of them are on welfare.

>> No.945664

>>945644
It's just a matter of statistics. Look at urban environments where black kids are either shuttled to good schools or gentrification brought some cash into the area. More black kids go to college and enter into the middle and upper classes. Like 90% of the time, it's just a matter of providing a better environment.

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945669

>>945636
>EXPLAIN WHY ASIANS AND HISPANICS DO BETTER THAN NIGGERS

...god damn it.

That doesn't change the fact that OP is still a racist.

>> No.945672

>>945652


wait til you hit 40 and you're through your 4th divorce. you might regret a thing or two

>> No.945673

>>945661
I never said that it was the same. When you brought up this argument before I explained that poor whites commit less crime than poor blacks so it cannot be the case that only socioeconomic factors are leading blacks to commit more crimes. The most likely explanation is that there is something connected to the black community that makes it violent and dangerous. Whether or not it is cultural or genetic is a question I will not attempt to answer.

>> No.945676

>>945669

Not racism, RACE REALISM.

>> No.945681

>>945663
>I said in my post that no one is arguing that. i know that there are more blacks in jail than whites. What I am telling you is that it has nothing to do with race.

Right, and some people were arguing that. You were wrong, fucktard.

>I live in a small canadian town. I go to the local college. Guess who are the ones "niggering" this town with drugs, underage pregnancies and crime? Thats right bitch, your glorious master race in this town, 20% of them are on welfare.


The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".

>> No.945682

>>945673
you realize the black community stands for socioeconomic factors unconnected with the concept of "race" right.

>> No.945683

>>945663

Wow you're a fucking idiot.... "live in town with damn near 0% blacks, blacks not responsible for crime, hurrah!"

In similar news, shark attacks in denver at an all time low!

>> No.945684

>>945672


LOL, uggo preaching doing things the hard way.

I bet you shop around when you buy things too!

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945686

my face when OP pwned the shit out of /lit/berals

>> No.945687

mmmm, that's good racism.

>> No.945688

>>945652
There is no biological difference between western whites and eastern whites, yet eastern Europe makes the worst black American neighborhood look like fucking Disneyland. What drives people to violence is a matter of resources.

>> No.945692

>>945676
Holy fuck, is that what they're candy coating racism as now so they don't sound like KKK members?

It sounds just as ridiculous as when women claim they are not religious, but deeply spiritual.

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>>945681

WRONG

>> No.945695

>>945682
I suppose this could be *trivially true* in the sense that you label those factors as socioeconomic. It would be stupid, unorthodox, and non-descriptive, but you could do it.

>> No.945698

>>945688

HUH? Organized crime, I would perhaps agree with you.... As far as just sheer thugishness goes? Hell. Fucking. No.

>> No.945701

>>945695
noooooooo. it would be correct and sane because getting a result like "if a guy is from the black community" is totally worthless when it comes to answering your question of whether race matters.

anyway, get educated.

>> No.945702

>>945688
There is less crime in Eastern Europe than in black ghettos but let's ignore that for the moment. You really don't think all the rich, productive people in America impact those ghetto areas? hurr durr

>> No.945708

>>945701
I went to Harvard so I'm probably better educated than you. In any case, I wasn't trying to answer that question. lol strawman tiem

>> No.945711

>>945693
ever considered that cops, like you, believe blacks are a drain on society and therefore stop, search, and arrest more of them?

>> No.945714

>>945711
http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2007-02-07hm.html

>> No.945719

>>945683

nope, I'd say 10% of them are black [no data available]. I almost know them all, and only one of them is a criminal (small time drug dealer).

I said this to show how fuckin stupid is the argument that race is what determines if you are a criminal or not. Most of the blacks here are educated, they moved into town because they got jobs. Meanwhile the "locals" are poor, and 20% of them are on welfare.

>> No.945720

>>945698
Bosnia? Soviet Russia's invasion of Afghanistan? Modern Russia's violent white power movement?

>> No.945721

>>945711


Ever consider that cops spend a good deal more time in these neighborhoods and with these people than you and might be right? Fact: practically all cops are racist. Fact: not even close to all cops start out racist when they join the force. Wonder what causes the shift?

>> No.945723

>>945708
well then i guess harvard is pretty shit compared to uchicago economics.

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>>945708
>Harvard
>better educated

You forgot this.

>> No.945725

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>> No.945728

OP is a spoiled white princess who understands nothing

>> No.945729

>>945698

>HUH? Organized crime, I would perhaps agree with you.... As far as just sheer thugishness goes? Hell. Fucking. No.

Obviously you have never been to poor parts of Europe

>> No.945732

>>945728

Butthurt nigra

>> No.945737

>>945723
Please. Your school is a joke that Ivy rejects attend in order to avoid state school.

>> No.945739

>>945721

>Fact: not even close to all cops start out racist when they join the force

Hard data or GTFO

>> No.945743

>>945702
There's religious conflict happening every day in eastern Europe. That also brings to mind the IRA, another violent white group.

>> No.945745

Be racist all you want OP. a black cock had that white pussy of yours.

>> No.945747

>>945698

Trust me, it's a lot worse. *A lot* worse. You haven't seen ghettos until you've been to Eastern Europe. I went once for a job and swore to never go back.

>> No.945749

>>945721
institutionalized racism

>> No.945753

>>945739

I can't help but notice you didn't apply the same stringent rule to my statement that all cops are racist?

Unless you believe only racists want to be cops, I'm a little confused.

>> No.945755

>>945743
that brings to mind the British government, another violent white group

>> No.945760

>>945755
*high five*

>> No.945761

>>945749


Perhaps so, or perhaps it's because whenever they attend a funeral for a fellow cop, it's damn near always a "person of color" that did the deed.

>> No.945762

>>945737
LOL ok.

anyway retard, consider this a told explanation to your bullshit

your idea of black is "black people in america." however, that is not the same as the general "black race" as you sophisticated racial realists define it. as such, even though it is true that "black people in america" are indeed married to the socioeconomic variables in effect in the american black community, this is not true for the general "black race."

are you retards actually this fucking stupid up there

>> No.945771

AUSTRALIA'S CURRENT LEADER MAY HAVE NOT BEEN ELECTED; SHE MAY NOT BE A MAN; AND SHE MAY HAVE RED HAIR AND A BIG NOSE, BUT AT LEAST SHE OPENLY ADMITTED SHE IS NOT RELIGIOUS AND WOULDN'T PLAY THE RELIGIOUS CARD TO GAIN VOTES.

>> No.945776

>>945762
I don't know what you are talking about. I was not trying to link the American black community to the "black race" as a whole in the way you are implying I was. I was saying that there is something about the American black community that makes it violent and dangerous, therefore I dislike it.

As for your school, when you have to name your major to sound more prestigious you know your school is shit.

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>>945611
>>945611
>>945611
>>945611

>Those things are connected to be black so in this case race would be the explanatory variable

>Those things are connected to be black so in this case race would be the explanatory variable

holeee shit.

>> No.945785

>>945776
actually, there are a lot of retards in ivys so LOL you are still a retard for bringing up your school.

anyway, the fucking point is that even in the case of "the american black community" their being black is not the fucking reason for anything.

>> No.945788

This bitch is stupid. Poor white people all over the world are every bit as prone to being violent as poor black people. All that keeps people from killing each other is resource availability and comfortable living.

>> No.945790

>>945785
Idiot. I never claimed being black was the sole reason that these things happened (remember when I said some blacks are great?). It's just that the black community produces more crooks.

>> No.945793

>>945785
i'm sorry, in my haste to call you a retard i've neglected to point out why you were indeed talking about the general idea of race instead of "the american blacks."

>Those things are connected to be black so in this case race would be the explanatory variable
>connected to be black
>race would be explanatory variable

hurr

>> No.945799

>>945790
read here >>945793


and >implying i am expected to follow what you said when you are an anon in a retarded thread.

>> No.945801

I agree with OP, and I'm Black. I hate most American Blacks. I would say it's more a cultural than a racial issue.

>> No.945802

>>945793
onionring, you're the best.

>> No.945805

>>945793
hurr durr retard

I said race is an explanatory variable but I never said it was the only variable that mattered. I just said that something about blacks leads them to commit more crimes than other groups- what it is about their community that does that is unknown.

>> No.945813

you are all idiots for falling for this troll

especially onionring

>> No.945814

>>945805
"race" is not "present in the american black community" if you've paid any attention, you'd realize that taking them as interchangeable is the root of your confusion.

>> No.945815

You still mad, OP.

Nigger trolled you hard

>> No.945816

>>945371
Yep.

I know some of my /b/ros would hate me for this, but I don't think blacks are inherently bad people. Just American and African ones. In the UK, blacks are often MORE successful and ambitious, because whites still rely largely on a family name and heredity to get them by in life, whereas a black can, for all they know, be descended from a prince and not have anything to show for it.

But in America, blacks use the fact that they are a "minourity" (though they are often the majourity of people) as an excuse to be lazy, stupid pieces of shit. It's not that they can't do anything because they're black, it's that they don't want to, and facilitating that is like saying that a person ought to be paid more than a hard-working, hard-nosed person because they are unable to convince themselves they want to work, because we feel sorry for them ruining their lives... Oh, wait. It's the same thing. And it's called Welfare.

Distinction between blacks and niggers, though. Very important.

>> No.945827

This is a a stupid thread. To hate most blacks means you are racist. Just by saying that most blacks are doesn't give you an excuse.
Also this shit isn't even /lit/ related.

>> No.945843

>>945827
> To hate most blacks means you are racist.

IT MAKES YOU A RACE-REALIST.

BLACKS ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE CRIMINALS, i'M MORE LIKELY TO HATE BLACKS.

>> No.945860

>>945805
>>945805

> I just said that something about blacks leads them to commit more crimes than other groups- what it is about their community that does that is unknown.

I give up. Stay racist you stupid cunt.

>> No.945862

We don't require much in the way of manual labor out in our fields of plenty, anymore. Nowadays, Uncle Sam -- along with his massive privatized prison machine -- only graciously accepts when so many poor blacks slip up. He doesn't hold it against the black man like some racist. Instead, he invites them to simply show up, settle in, and stay awhile. It almost sounds like a heavenly act of great mercy: if I were bred in a swamp down South, that is.

>> No.945883

>>945805
okayyy let me go through this with you slowly since you didn't pay attention in econometrics. when you encounter the word "black" in social science literature, means a concrete group of people and not the vaporous idea of race generating this thread.

the word black is only meaningful within the context of the particular studies. if, for instance, the population is expanded from "america" to "entirety of humanity," the "blacks" will be expanded to "black americans."

in any case, the point is, when you have shown that blacks in america commit the majority of crimes amongst all the people in america, it does not imply that the black race is any more liable to commit crimes.

the bigger problem here is that these studies are done using seemingly obvious racial labels for practical and political reasons (ie people are interested in racially defined problems) yet you have retards like yourself reading the result in retarded ways.

>> No.945887

STOP BUMPING THIS SHIT

>> No.945942

Even Chris Rock hates niggers. And he's black. There you have it.

/thread