/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.9433480]

How different are your political/philosophical/whatever views from the people around you? How radical are you in your social circles?

[Anonymous No.9433490]

>my family/social circle finally came around to accepting me as a libertarian
>I'm now a Strasserist national socialist

[Anonymous No.9433496]

Wrong life cannot be lived rightly

If you have bourgeois friends, it is your job to be the local schizophrenic cosmonaut and enlighten them about capitalist accelerationist satanism

[Anonymous No.9433501]

>>9433490
kys

[Anonymous No.9433504]

>>9433480
i believe in the divine right of kings as the ultimate practical political ideology

you can guess at how well i fit in

[Anonymous No.9433505]

My whole family are monarchists islamofascists.
I am a marxist hegelian left communist,religiously i took the Neo-mu'tazilismus approach

[Anonymous No.9433507]

idk as a young university student most people I know are reasonably left wing. My mum is probably a centrist

[Anonymous No.9433509]

I'm resigned to my role as a social bridge. I'm politically near the center right, but spend most political discussions as a mediator between far more totalitarian ideologies.

[Anonymous No.9433521]

>>9433509
>tfw
fucking hate politics, if only because every discussion I have with someone quickly devolves into them trying to cast me as their opposite.
>well I suppose you think all hate crimes are made up, too!
>I guess college has turned you into a border-hating hippie!
>neither one related to the conversation at hand
At least I have more than one opposing viewpoint in my life, though. Which is apparently more than most people can say.

[Anonymous No.9433523]

>>9433480
I'm in the military and I am the most nationalist person, when it come to foreign policy, that I know.

[Anonymous No.9433536]

Sometimes. When I explain the loneliness of individual existences in the exterior world or that people cannot connect truly because of that they say that I am too depressing.

Schizoid

[Anonymous No.9433550]

im a 17 year old alt right shitposter and my parents are uninformed democrats

[Anonymous No.9433562]

>>9433480
>live in cooperative housing
>people range from centre left to far left
>I'm an egoist but don't tell anyone
>pretend to sympathise with the left whenever asked
Leftists are just more fun desu.

[Anonymous No.9433567]

>>9433480
I hate democracy as a system and everyone loves it, so that should explain most of it.
I believe in anarchism as an ideal, but I don't see how Democracy will take us there.

Dictatorships are also wrong in most cases and are too susceptible to abuse, Monarchies are plain dumb, Aristocratic/Oligarchic form of governments don't bring any good to the world but constant degeneration. I think that we need to regress out of the mega cities and live in small communities so that people can have better lives regarding the construction of their personality and more privacy. This small communities can have a democratic system though.
My biggest issue is that I don't know how to tackle the State, these small communities should create a bigger figure that coordinates them all, or war might be a constant fear. But creating this figure will eventually create a State again.

I know it wont happen and that everyone hates it, but idk, I think it would help the development of the average person.

[Anonymous No.9433569]

Most people around me are slightly left of centre liberals.

I'm a radical Atheo-Khomeinist-Titoist.

[Anonymous No.9433570]

>>9433480

I'm a liberal who resents almost all other liberals for allowing a racist pedophile Russian agent to become President of the United States.

[Anonymous No.9433571]

>>9433490
>>9433496
>>9433505
Holy shit I thought the /lit/izens are commies thing was just a meme

[Anonymous No.9433578]

i'm basically a socially/culturally conservative socialist. everyone i know is pretty much now a pussy centrist liberal, even my one good friend who used to be a conservative type.

among co-workers i only stick to talking economic issues, where i still sound mostly like a leftist. among friends i feel comfortable enough expressing my reactionary views about feminism, immigration, nationalism, etc, but even among my best friends i don't express my views on race and the JQ.

[Anonymous No.9433580]

>>9433571
but the second one isn't a communist!

luckily I'm a communist so you've still got three

[Anonymous No.9433583]

>>9433490
damn, you did a 180 degree turn

[Anonymous No.9433613]

I have zero strong opinions on politics or stances. Usually whenever politics are brought up I don't say anything and if I do it's a permanent devil's advocate role. I feel you either know too much about philosophy to have any real power for change and therefore your knowledge functions as self betterment (or self serving) or you know too little and should keep quiet, or you're a politician and your knowledge of philosophy has no bearing on politics whatsoever. Does this make sense? Pretty pessimistic but I don't know enough

[Anonymous No.9433616]

>>9433504
I had a friend like this until I took his girlfriend. He was a cuck.

[Anonymous No.9433618]

>>9433616
You don't sound very nice.

[Anonymous No.9433636]

>>9433613
This. I don't have near enough knowledge of this kind of stuff (I've read some situationist literature, Frankfurt School stuff, general textbooks, and early political theory but that's about it desu) so I just kind of lean out of the conversation if it comes up. If it's 1 on 1 I try and get them to explicate their views, only stating mine when specifically asked. You can even find some idiosyncracies among "milquetoast" liberals if you grill them hard enough.

[Anonymous No.9433637]

I'm basically a contrarian with no defined ideology with a half-ironic distrust and dislike of Jewry and I'm casually racist. All my close friends and I have common dislikes which are enough to agree to disagree on the rest. With pretty much everyone else, I just don't discuss politics.

[Anonymous No.9433641]

>>9433618

God works in mysterious ways. Joseph thought Mary became pregnant by way of the miracle called "immaculate conception". Spoiler alert Joseph was cucked.

[Anonymous No.9433644]

>>9433641
I don't believe in god.

[Anonymous No.9433648]

>>9433641
That's not what immaculate conception means.

[Anonymous No.9433655]

>>9433480
Anti-totalitarian with some libertarian leaning

[Anonymous No.9433657]

>>9433616
i dont have a gf or even a crush so im not too worried about it

[Anonymous No.9433670]

I only discuss politics with my best friend. Never anyone else, because it's social suicide to voice any opinion which is contrary to the prevailing social-democratic groupthink in my country.

[Anonymous No.9433712]

>>9433521
This exactly. Either I'm the perfect contrarian or somehow the left and right hate my reasonable, moderate stances.

I'm emotionally fragile so after a "debate" (me getting shit on), I have to go home and cry myself to sleep. I hate politics.

[Anonymous No.9433722]

>>9433496
i like it

[Anonymous No.9433735]

>>9433521
>Talking to my friend about Bernie Sanders
>Say I'm apprehensive about supporting him because I'm pro-life and that's very important to me.
>He's cool about it and doesn't press the issue
>His girlfriend is not cool about it, she goes nuts.
>Try to end the conversation there
>She''s not having it. Basically repeats a bunch of pro-choice slogans as if they're gospel truth in an extremely smug way
>Tops it off with a big speech about how I should keep my religion out of politics
>mfw I'm an atheist

It really hurts my feelings when people try and pick fights about politics.

[Anonymous No.9433751]

>>9433735
What's the justification for being pro-life if you aren't religious though?

[Anonymous No.9433752]

>>9433735
just tell them abortion is a eugenic practice that disproportionately impacts (fuck it say "targets") poc and the poor. run-of-the-mill progs will enter malfunction mode.

[Anonymous No.9433760]

I am a hardcore Catholic to the point of supporting theocracy, or at least the supremacy of the Church in all affairs. I have also gradually grown to support a kind of meritocratic monarchy/aristocracy as the ideal form of government. Basically a concentrated state with a single supreme ruler, but not hereditary.

I go to grad school at a small Catholic university, so everyone there is about as religious as I am, though my political views may still be too radically reactionary for them. I'm surrounded by shitty Clinton-voting Democrats and shitty straight ticket Republicans outside of school, and I don't know what to do with either of them.

I think I'd also shock nearly everyone I know with the extent to which I put stock in the supernatural/paranormal, but that's another issue.

[Anonymous No.9433761]

I'm a polite, silent person. Whenever I do talk people tend to listen. I don't push my views on anyone, I say whatever seems to be the case to me and most people are surprisingly open to that kind of that.

[Anonymous No.9433779]

This is usually how they go

>UGH you support DRUMPH
Yeah... but not in the way you expect. Have you ever heard of accelerationism?
>uhhhh....
it's like, Trump was the stick that people unconsciously upset with the modern detach from naturalism got to strike the modern world with.
>... so why do you hate Mexicans?

[Anonymous No.9433783]

>>9433751
Not him and not pro-choice but obviously because it can be seen as murder depending on when you declare something is a human.

[Anonymous No.9433798]

>>9433751

Everyone has a right to life. If women don't want to get pregnant they should use one of the many available contraceptives.

If you knock someone up/get knocked up in 2017 it's your own fault and you shouldn't be able to just press reset by murdering a little fetus.

[Anonymous No.9433802]

>>9433779
it's pretty disheartening how few people can conceive of politics outside of msnbc-fox news squabbling. even otherwise bright people instinctively fall back on these pre-established talking points and media narratives whenever discussing politics.

[Anonymous No.9433803]

>>9433783
In my country abortions after 12 weeks is not allowed because it is seen scientifically as range at which the fetus has developed all its essential organs and could potentially survive outside the womb given proper care.

Seems like a decent line to draw if any.

[Anonymous No.9433807]

>>9433751

I personally started to hate abortion because of all of the excuses people made to justify a lifestyle of irresponsible debauchery. It's fucking disgusting how abortion isn't even the last resort, but the contraception of choice, given the potential moral issues.

Still feel pro-choice, but I fucking hate degeneracy.

[Anonymous No.9433809]

>>9433779
>accelerationism
I understand what you mean and still think it's dumb. But at least we can communicate.

[Anonymous No.9433810]

>>9433803
I don't give a shit about fetuses but that line seems completely arbitrary to me. I mean in 100 years when "proper care" is perfected so humans can be incubated from conception, the 12 weeks line will be totally meaningless. I think the real question is "What is a person?", but I don't really care enough to spend the time thinking about it. Apathy desu.

[Anonymous No.9433811]

>>9433798
>Everyone has a right to life

I don't see how natural rights exist without recourse to something supernatural.

There's a reason even the American Declaration of Independence mentions 'the creator' and natural rights in the same line.

[Anonymous No.9433816]

>>9433810
>I don't give a shit about fetuses but that line seems completely arbitrary to me. I mean in 100 years when "proper care" is perfected so humans can be incubated from conception, the 12 weeks line will be totally meaningless.

Yeah, but we don't live in that society yet, so as a matter of pragmatic problem solving, it's not unreasonable.

[Anonymous No.9433817]

>>9433580
>capitalist accelerationist satanism isn't communism
If communism is the next stage in societal evolution, or even just a self-fulfilling prophecy as it seems to me, then capitalist accelerationism is the only way to bring it about, and it's the only way it's presented itself in any country worth talking about. If you call yourself a communist while referring to "state capitalism" in a derogatory way, you are probably idealistic petty-bourgeois and #notmycomrade.
The satanism part is Just about breaking down Christian values. Pretty typically communist.

[Anonymous No.9433820]

>arguing unironically about politics in a thread about people who argue about politics
Are none of you that self-aware, or is taking the slim possibility of changing a stranger's mind over the internet just that necessary to you

[Anonymous No.9433829]

>>9433820
>changing a stranger's mind over the internet
If you actually think this is anyone's goal I've got a bridge to sell you.

[Anonymous No.9433847]

i go to a hilariously liberal uni which is populated mostly by students who claim to be far left, and are in a near constant state of outrage. it's annoying because usually their issues are totally legitimate, but the impotence of their """"activism"""" reduces any possible real change resulting from their actions. i think the best theyve done is get the faculty to say black lives matter or something.

i'm the only person i know atm that still explicitly identifies as a communist. most of my peers are at least anti-capitalist, but clearly this will not last when they all become normie liberals in five years.

[Anonymous No.9433852]

>>9433847
really, most of the "political discourse" i hear is either muh trump or whatever social justice issue everyday feminism told them to care about this week

[Anonymous No.9433855]

>>9433847
>it's annoying because usually their issues are totally legitimate

Yeah, I'm sure. The most privileged people in the history of humanity have "issues" that are "legitimate".

[Anonymous No.9433859]

>>9433855
>telling people to check their privilege compared to their ancestors
Spotted the alt-right YouTube commenter.

[Anonymous No.9433861]

>>9433855
i guess. you're not wrong but idk, spikes in campus rapes seems to be something worth at least directing attention to.

[Anonymous No.9433867]

>>9433859
>compared to their ancestors

Don't even have to do that. If you have the ability to go to college you're literally more privileged than 90% of the world population.

[Anonymous No.9433892]

>All these unironic communists on muh lit
What's your fucking excuse?

[Anonymous No.9433899]

>>9433892
probably too stupid to haven understood the Peterson pill, and the Bread pill.

[Anonymous No.9433901]

>>9433892
They are over-educated middle-class Americans. What the fuck do you think?

[Anonymous No.9433903]

>>9433892
College kids still think this is cool in 2017, for some reason. Same with atheism.

[Anonymous No.9433904]

>>9433892
probably too stupid to have understood the Peterson pill, and the Bread pill.

[Anonymous No.9433908]

>>9433807
Then you are not against it but against the misuse of it. Maybe you should have stated that clearer

[Anonymous No.9433917]

>>9433892
Unlike the nu-/lit/, old /lit/ actually reads. I swear it is like people don't know this is where Strinerposting and Zizekposting came from

[Anonymous No.9433928]

I reject every attempt to systematize or rationalize. I reject the existence of systems or reason.

Every time I explain myself, people get very upset. Normally, my explanations involve sourcing the origins of their beliefs, which of course insults their ego because they think they came to such conclusions by themselves.
This also entails a rejection of science, of course, which people cannot conceive of considering I am using a computer. They also cannot conceive of somebody arguing against arguing.

[Anonymous No.9433941]

I'll make it brief for you:
>anon reads
>people around anon don't read as much

[Anonymous No.9433946]

>>9433928
>Normally, my explanations involve sourcing the origins of their beliefs, which of course insults their ego because they think they came to such conclusions by themselves.
This is, indeed, a great way to annoy most people. You can know if a person is intelligent by asking where their ideas come from. A dumb person will argue in favor of such ideas. A smart one will answer the question.

[Anonymous No.9433951]

>>9433917
They absolutely don't, I have seen these babbies think Zizek is some sort of anti-SJW personality and Stirner is a right wing capitalist or some shit on this very board

[Anonymous No.9433957]

>>9433892
communism is not a static ideology. saying i'm a communist in 2017 is not the same as saying i endorse some stupid old school marxist-leninism which clearly didn't work. capitalism has both caused muh millions of deaths and also has changed parts of its fundamental structure over time, much like any economic system

>>9433904
peterson is an absolute hack with an american public education-tier understanding of marxism. i find it hilarious that he claims to 'reject all forms of ideology' while simultaneously spouting literal cold war propaganda created by the state. yea of course the ussr was shit but that doesn't make 21st century capitalism any less of a disaster

>>9433928
>t. i read nietzsche and now i don't need to think anymore

[Anonymous No.9433958]

Here are two videos of anon talking about politics with illiterate, obedient, political theory- and action-free normalfags:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZUCemb2plE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfgnAU-6Tvo

[Anonymous No.9433960]

pretty much 80% of people around me are in the center -of my country-, either social dem or conservative or basic nationalist, but i've quite a few "different" """friends""" as well (anarchist, libertarian, socialist etc).
I am myself an egoist so practically I avoid ideological leanings, but in discussions, mostly for discussion's sake but also because currently that's what i feel would fit me most, I defend libertarianism (minarchy to be exact)

[Anonymous No.9433961]

>>9433951
>your pic
Adorno literally accused people of fascism for disagreeing with him about music. He deserves it.

[Anonymous No.9433966]

>>9433951
Jazz is Western culture too

[Anonymous No.9433970]

>>9433951
?? Senpai are you disagreeing with me? If you aren't then I would like to add that people also forgot that Randposting used to be bannable.

I blame hiro for making /his/ &humanities

[Anonymous No.9433984]

>>9433957
>he thinks Solzhenitsyn was a CIA prop

wew lad! those are some serious mental gymnastics!

[Anonymous No.9433990]

>>9433807
i dont think people takes it lightly. it isnt like people just casually makes the decision to get an abortion. i havent heard of any cases of this where the people involved were totally flippant about it like you suggest

[Anonymous No.9433991]

>>9433984
lol i don't defend the soviet union

what i do defend is the critique of modern capitalism, which due to intentional propaganda by the american state has become synonymous with totalitarianism, which is, to quote the sniff man, ideology at its purest.

the idea that the only alternative to the way things are currently functioning is totalitarianism is itself a totalitarian notion

[Anonymous No.9434009]

>>9433957
Rationalization and systematization are not the only ways to think.

[Anonymous No.9434015]

>>9433480
My dad is a conservative and everyone else around me are moderate liberals. I'm a post-left anarchist and don't typically discuss politics with anyone. If a political issue is brought up I tend to be more conciliatory than argumentative, mostly so that we don't remain on the subject for long.

[Anonymous No.9434026]

I'm a radical contrarian

[Anonymous No.9434042]

>>9433480

It varies. I'm a nationalist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_nationalism

but my friends range from fascism to unbelievably liberal, all are fairly united by some level of patriotism though.

prior to about 2000 there was fuck all in the way of niggers here, now we are inundated with the cunts, so can probably walk up to anyone older than teenage and say "put those cunts back on the boat" and you'll be met with approval.

I was in a taxi the other night for example and driver, apropos of nothing, started explaining to me why he felt Hitler was right.

[Anonymous No.9434191]

>>9433760
>born too late to be respected for blindly following orders from ignorant self-serving diddlers
>born too early to see tribal Christianity return to necessity in a post-apocalyptic smorgasbord of rape and cannibalism
>born at the right time to be an undeserving arrogant douchebag who wants to have the answer to life at 16 years of age, pissing off anyone with a semblance of rational thought
Keep on truckin, my dude.

[Anonymous No.9434202]

>>9433970
agreeing m8
>>9433961
Wow I guess we should cut funding for every humanities department after this scathing critique which doesn't even have too much to do with the point the picture is trying to make anyway. It's not like Adorno was living in a country and time which was dealing with fascists anyway.

[Anonymous No.9434207]

>>9434042
>>9434042
>Irish
>racist
>against immigration
welp, you gotta learn to love your chains one way or another, I guess

[Anonymous No.9434276]

>>9433571
The Strassers were anti-Communist, though.

[Anonymous No.9434281]

>>9433505
You went with the second worst thing instead of the literally worst thing.

Good job, I guess it is still an improvement.

[Anonymous No.9434283]

Most of my friends are centrist, one is a self-proclaimed Stalinist who supports every regime that is anti-West and anti-liberal. Among his heroes are Pol Pot, Khomeini, Saddam Hussein, the Kims and Robert Mugabe. He's convinced that in one way or another they're all some kind of socialists. Recently he came out as an ISIS supporter (though he still wants Assad to stay in power and only wants them to establish a state in Iraq), I wonder how long it will take until he also embraces the Nazis.

[Anonymous No.9434352]

>>9433480
its hard enough even finding someone with whom you can discuss these things at a meaningful level, never mind someone who you can agree with

Personally, I have only met a handful of like-minded people in my whole life with whom I could have honest discussion. I spoke to one for the first time in years the other day and it was like a weight off my shoulders to just be able to speak freely.

Honestly, cherish this connection if you ever encounter it

[Anonymous No.9434375]

>>9433798
I see where you're coming from, but contraceptives aren't full proof, and I doubt many people have unprotected sex without broaching the possibility they might get pregnant. Over half of all unwanted pregnancies in the US result from contraceptive failure. Beside that, the punishment you propose- to incapacitate a woman and force her to bond emotionally with a child she has no feelings for- seems disproportionately cruel when such an easy fix is available.

[Anonymous No.9434381]

>>9433751
because killing is morally inhuman. it is the same as asking the question: "why would you oppose murder if you're not religious". you're killing a child. either have save sex or deal with the consequences.

[Anonymous No.9434463]

>>9433811
Natural rights are the only rights. Naturally we have the right to do anything.

[Anonymous No.9434475]

>>9433496
Genuinely interested, have you ever studied economics? Nobody I know in my degree or holding one has identified as a Marxist.

[Anonymous No.9434478]

>always been center-left
>events in the last 3 years made me shift to the right
>friends start attacking me for not being on the right team
>don't care

[Anonymous No.9434484]

>>9434475
Econ classes rarely teach Marx. If they do its a watered down version of him to show "lol wasn't he silly - capitalism is great". Which is a shame given how influential a thinker he is.

[Anonymous No.9434485]

I'm a lefty and i'm fine with it. My family is pretty normie but in college everyone shares pretty much the same opinion... except for one or two /pol/tards

[Anonymous No.9434489]

>>9433480
Philosophically, pretty radical, but I hide my power level and when I do reveal it people often think I'm joking because I do like to say crazy shit as a joke sometimes. Politically I'm either uninterested, agnostic or relatively normie about most issues.

[Anonymous No.9434498]

>>9433480
>How radical are you in your social circles?
I'm so radical I became a hermit.

[Anonymous No.9434500]

I'm a theoarchist (anarchy based in christian values), I'm sure there's no one around me with such a view.

[Anonymous No.9434501]

>>9433505
>marxist hegelian
Like an atheist theist, a materialist spiritualist and the ideal banal?

[Anonymous No.9434507]

>>9433957
Read the Prison Archipelago. You're like that one woman who sees no error in the system that jailed her.

[Anonymous No.9434508]

>>9434501
no, like someone who uses speakers as microphone

[Anonymous No.9434512]

>>9433957
>yea of course the ussr was shit but that doesn't make 21st century capitalism any less of a disaster
Yeah, I guess the African starvation isn't great but that doesn't make burgers healthy.

So do you starve or do you eat burgers or do you start to make sense?
>ps. It's not a food analogy because I referenced African cuisine

[Anonymous No.9434518]

>>9433480
I think my parents are slightly worried about me. My dad saw my Bible and was mildly worried I had converted and was gonna try and convert him, and my mum heard my traditional German folk music and was kinda worried I'd gone the Nazi route. Also my dad's picked up on all the "my property" stuff after I had an argument over whether I was allowed to use my brother's computer.

My brother just makes fun of me for being a huge pseud.

[Anonymous No.9434529]

>>9434518
>my traditional German folk music and was kinda worried I'd gone the Nazi route. Also my dad's picked up on all the "my property" stuff after I had an argument over whether I was allowed to use my brother's computer.

[Anonymous No.9434537]

Most people i know don't even care about politics.

[Anonymous No.9434570]

I'm a nordic social democrat. most of my friends are trots or liberals. family, roommates and workmates are conservatives. Ive never had a problem with anyone.

[Anonymous No.9434579]

I am an egoist.

People accuse me of being a nazi, a communist, a neocon, a neolib, an ancap...

Those sweet summer children.

[Anonymous No.9434599]

I'm still pretty center-left these days with more civil liberties in the mix of my politics. Most folk don't seem to mind too much but aside from one or two people, nobody agrees with me that the corporate elite are trying to establish a new world order.

[Anonymous No.9434663]

>>9434518
Christ

[Anonymous No.9434666]

>>9434579
>I am an egoist.
>Those sweet summer children.

[Anonymous No.9434791]

I believe that political views, primarily radical ones, are less believed because they actually embody what would be beneficial for the individual holding said believes economically but rather because people try to counteract personal insecurities and fears, often irrational ones, through identification with an ideology. This holds more true today than probably ever before. In a complicated world without the authority of religion were the individual not only falls by the wayside but is also without purpose (radical) political believes give a place to belong for fearful and lost individuals.
Every political system is flawed. Many people dont seem to realize this. The search for a perfect system is a delusional one. They are either utopias that have wont work in reality at all or comprimise the lives of certain groups of individuals to function. In every system there will be suffering, not only as a natural part of life but also inflicted through this system and I think that every sytem will eventually collapse more often than not because people for whatever reason become disillusioned with this system and overthrow it for an opposing one.
I myself belive that all suffering could be avoided through the death of human conciousness or (human) life in general. Since most people cant understand this system at all the next best thing for me would be a return to tribal hunter gatherer societies. I am well aware though that my view on life in a low tech society is extremly romanticized and shaped by wishful thinking. I still believe it to be preferable to the life of most if not all humans today. Another problem would be that eventually humans would return to this or a similiar state of "civilization". So this will remain a naive dream either way. I dont have many troubles fitting in since my individualistic believes translate well into current western society. Im only a bit too anticapitalistic for most people but most people dont take much issue with that.

[Anonymous No.9434857]

>>9433990

Go to any liberal university. I've had students tell me shit like "dude I researched the philosophical arguments bro, read your JJ Thomson, the death of the fetus is just coincidental" that makes me want to place a gun to their temple and pull the trigger, coincidentally killing them.

Sorry, but abortion is enabling bad behavior and poor ethics.

[Anonymous No.9434860]

>>9433567
>live in small communities so that people can have better lives regarding the construction of their personality and more privacy.
lol more anarchist retardation, you really think people have more privacy in small communities? Nobody gives a shit about anyone else in big cities because there are so many people, in small towns there's constant gossip and shit

[Anonymous No.9434865]

>>9433990

Do you even talk to people nowadays? People hardly take contraceptives seriously until somebody gets pregnant. Abortion is not the last resort after many measures, but rather the first line of defense.

[Anonymous No.9434919]

>>9434191
>muh rational thought
>muh memes

Now this is shitposting

[Anonymous No.9434927]

I just don't involve myself in those conversations. I'm sometimes that faggot who plays devil's advocate when nobody asks him to, but usually I just don't participate. I don't feel well-read enough, honestly, and keeping up with the news cycle (let alone making sure I've stayed informed on multiple sides of an issue) isn't my top priority when I'm trying to develop a career for myself.
>>9434865
Do you?
The thought of pregnancy still terrifies the vast majority of my female friends who don't already want children, so they care very much about contraception. I dunno what kind of people you surround yourself with, but the average adult in the US doesn't treat abortions lightly.

[Anonymous No.9434967]

>>9434927

>The thought of pregnancy still terrifies the vast majority of my female friends who don't already want children, so they care very much about contraception. I dunno what kind of people you surround yourself with, but the average adult in the US doesn't treat abortions lightly.

Not many rational adults in the United States, considering how 95% of abortions are used for contraceptive purposes. Also, notice how few people "terrified of pregnancy" will never employ the one method that guarantees no pregnancy--abstinence.

"Oops I forgot to take the pill today!"

"This condom was expired... but I think we'll be fine."

"Just pull out, okay?"

The modern lifestyle entails taking a gamble with gaining responsibilities that you aren't prepared for, and it's disgusting that it's all in the glib pursuit of pleasure with little regard for the moral quandaries of abortion, left on the wayside or slandered as the concerns of misogynists, because it's simply inconvenient.

[Anonymous No.9434976]

>>9433480
I'm liberal where liberals aren't and conservative where conservatives aren't. Only my best friend holds similar views.

[Anonymous No.9435003]

>>9433480
None of my friends or peers study philosophy, to them I'm some kind of god who Can solve all of their life problems with a single philosophical phrase. Politically, very right and libertarian, friends agree with my ideas but a lot of peers are socialists and commies, they think I want the rich to rip everyone off in a giant circle jerk and business schemes.

[Anonymous No.9435005]

I am christian fascist. My friends are mostly lefty. I do debate issues with them and it's engaging for all parties, except one dude who gets butthurt when anybody says anything that's politically to the right of him. He is very anti-Trump, and so am I, but in a very different way. He doesn't wanna meetup for a few times, then goes back to normal and tries to forget

[Anonymous No.9435018]

>>9433751
It's murder.

[Anonymous No.9435022]

I'm a Nietzschean, and increasingly so.

Most of my life is like that XKCD comic which goes something like "at least you found a way to feel superior to both."

[Anonymous No.9435024]

Post-Left Anarchist.

Family has no political stance really, father is a trade unionist and my older sister likes putin and other sister Trump and Brother is an radical athiest.

[Anonymous No.9435060]

Tfw you take the Stirnerpill, feels pretty great desu, rather liberating.

[Anonymous No.9435070]

>>9434042
>Girls with guns taking control and rough-handling of you
>"How does it feel getting colonized british scum"
hot

[Anonymous No.9435075]

>>9433735
Why does it seem like most millenials (99%) can't have a discussion about politics without it devolving into a screaming shitfest if someone doesn't agree with their views?

[Anonymous No.9435079]

>>9433809
>he doesn't know Land was actually right after all
Heh... Nothin personnel.. Kid..

[Anonymous No.9435081]

>>9435075
That's how its always been buddy, sheltered extremist people don't help though.

>>9435022
hehe don't feel bad, you'll graduate to Stirner eventually.

[Anonymous No.9435104]

>>9435075
That also described /lit/, the last "help me understand right-wing politics" thread I saw consisted of nothing but Marxists getting really upset a single Vargposter actually knew the theory of homesteading/running a farm.

[Anonymous No.9435113]

>>9433613
read Kojeve

[Anonymous No.9435115]

>>9435075
They're either sheltered (usually the case) or have no background in philosophical/critical thinking and argumentation. Most of the times it's both of these combined. Even seemingly "bright" people become exposed when political issues are brought up.

[Anonymous No.9435124]

>>9433480
>Devout Latin Mass Catholic; Distributist; divine right of kings Monarchist.
While there are a lot more of us than you think, I am pretty fringe.
I have a hard core group of local friends that share my views.

[Anonymous No.9435128]

>>9433490
same

[Anonymous No.9435129]

>>9435124
See?
>>9433760
>>9433504
there are more of us than people think

[Anonymous No.9435133]

>>9434501
What? Marxism was just an offshoot of hegel's ideas

[Anonymous No.9435136]

>>9435129
How do you support the divine right of kings when... there are no kings anymore, and the kings don't want that power anyway.

[Anonymous No.9435137]

>>9434967
>95% of abortions are used for contraceptive purposes

And the other 5%...?

The definition of contraceptive is the prevention of pregnancy. Why are only 95% of terminated pregnancies terminated for the sake of preventing pregnancy? Your statement makes no sense.

Again, what people do you find yourself around where anecdotal quotes such as yours are regular occurrences? That isn't to say I haven't heard them ever, but I can't say I've met many people who gamble with pregnancy. We must keep very different company.

[Anonymous No.9435143]

>>9435124
Could you recommend any literature on distributism as an economic theory?

[Anonymous No.9435148]

>>9433567
>these small communities should create a bigger figure that coordinates them all
So, you think small communities that are as self-sufficient as possible should have a local leader that is personally invested in the community such that his prosperity and reputation are one and that person only rules as needed when local consensus can't work?
And ther would be a network of higher level leaders within the same parameters so that the local leader can be appealed if warranted and so that large issues can be tackled?
And perhaps there would be a single leader beholden to the subordinates and whose wealth, reputation, etc. are directly tied to the same in the people as a last step/stop in appeals, final authority, etc?
In such a system local autonomy would be maximized without the threat of force monopoly being imposed from without due to the dynamic tensions between the various levels of hierarchy, outside threats would face a united front, and since state overreach is paid for directly by leaders they would be incentivized to minimize intervention.
Congratulations!
You've just rediscovered Feudal Aristocratic Monarchy!

[Anonymous No.9435149]

>>9435124
>>9433760
>>9433504

[Anonymous No.9435153]

>>9433570
You hate Clinton?

[Anonymous No.9435156]

>>9433735
>women
>intelligent conversation
you know where this is going, right?

[Anonymous No.9435160]

>>9435136
>there are no kings anymore
What? there's tons of pretenders still around for nearly every country.

[Anonymous No.9435164]

>>9433751
>What's the justification for being pro-life if you aren't religious though?
Let me ask you a counter-question
What is your justification for being pro-murder in the absence of a crime?

[Anonymous No.9435170]

>>9433811
>I don't see how natural rights exist without recourse to something supernatural.
So killing all atheists is OK?

[Anonymous No.9435171]

>>9433490
Are you me?

[Anonymous No.9435173]

>>9435143
Not everything here is great, but a ton of resources
>distributistreview dot com

[Anonymous No.9435176]

>>9435136
>there are no kings anymore
You mean no kings/sovereign heads of state except Liechtenstein, Monaco, Saudi Arabia, etc., right?
In 1650 would you have asked
>'how can you support Democracies when they all died out centuries ago?'
?

[Anonymous No.9435181]

>>9435176
but you can't exactly create new kings with an inherent divine right.

[Anonymous No.9435186]

>>9434276
We are anti communist but not anti socialist

Here's some strasserist stuff

https://revolutionarynationalsocialism.wordpress.com

[Anonymous No.9435190]

>>9435181
You could with a military uprising dictatorship transition period.

[Anonymous No.9435192]

I live among red-greens, but I would like to see european ethnostates with borders sealed from Africans and Western Asians

[Anonymous No.9435202]

>>9434207
You realize that Irish nationalism was a pushback against colonialism right? Just like african nationalism.

It's a perfectly natural political reaction.

[Anonymous No.9435207]

>>9434276
He's a libertarian. If you can nuke your neighbor's McChild sex slave farm for violating the NAP with their screams of agony then you're a dirty communist to him.

[Anonymous No.9435212]

>>9433751
i'm also pro life and not even baptized.
of course i would not interfere with the mother's choice. however i'd prefer she wouldnt

[Anonymous No.9435229]

i'm a post-left post-anarchy anarchist.
somewhere between occupy, crimethinc and stirner. i am totally isolated. no one gets anarchism. although it only means preferrably deciding via consensus, with those deciding who are concerned. forgiving each other. free spontaneous cooperation etc. it already works like this most of the time even inside of capitalism. see linux, your family or your cirlce of friends. it just has to be extended to the rest of socio economic relations

[Anonymous No.9435230]

>>9435190
There isn't any reason why any "transition period" couldn't result in a "inherent divine right", why wouldn't God fudge the dice for his chosen one?