/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.9431124]

Forever War edition

Fantasy
Selected:
>https://i.imgur.com/r688cPe.jpg
General:
>https://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg
Flowchart:
>https://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg

Science Fiction
Selected:
>https://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg
>https://i.imgur.com/IBs9KE8.jpg
General:
>https://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg
>https://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg

NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
>https://i.imgur.com/IJxTQBL.jpg

Previous Threads:
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[Anonymous No.9431141]

>>9431124
funky art

saw pic related on reddit, don't enlarge it at first. When you do, play around with defocusing your eyes and moving it further and closer to you.

Any good stories where AI is just placid and creative. Kind of like the Technocore in Hyperion, if they weren't actually evil

[Anonymous No.9431158]

>>9431141
most minds in the Culture I guess.

[Anonymous No.9431233]

>>9431124
Will we ever add a Wuxia/Xianxia chart?

[Anonymous No.9431249]

>>9431233

You could try making one in /a/ and keep it there if you could do us a favor

[Anonymous No.9431265]

>>9431124
Does The Wonderful Wizard of Oz count as fantasy?

[Anonymous No.9431278]

>>9431124

Okay, no.

Why is house spirits in the list but not a Thousand years of solitude when the former is a literally copy of the latter.

Allende is a shitty writer hated with passion in her country and South america not only because she copies every good author that south america has ever had but because she cant even copy them properly

[Anonymous No.9431312]

>>9431278
>Thousand years of solitude
Don't you mean "one hundred years of solitude"?
And which list do you refer?

[Anonymous No.9431316]

Holy shit Cixin Liu's Wandering Earth short stories are amazing

In the same way Remembrance of Earth's Past is amazing: weird inhuman robot-characters, but phenomenally original ideas. I highly recommend.

[Anonymous No.9431322]

>>9431233
Why don't we make a genre fiction novel database where people can add books and all relevant tags akin to vndb.org
Why are weebs so much better at organisation?
Also sexual tags like https://vndb.org/g1565

[Anonymous No.9431328]

>>9431312

Yeah, got confused. I am tired.

In the flowchart

[Anonymous No.9431341]

>>9431322
>sexual tags
If you're reading to find a scene you can wank to, you're doing it wrong.

[Anonymous No.9431344]

Thinking of getting more of the commonwealth saga books. The first two were some of the most epic space operas I've read. The scale was pretty incredible.

[Anonymous No.9431349]

>>9431341
Tell that to the GRI readers.

[Anonymous No.9431353]

>>9431341
I was just appealing to the GRI crowd.
Also I'm going to make a genre fiction database website this summer whether you like it or not and I'm going to shill it here too.

[Anonymous No.9431358]

Anything involving alternate universe traveling? I don't mean "character goes to another world and has an adventure there", as there's a shitton of that, but something where dimension hopping is the main motif.

[Anonymous No.9431364]

>>9431353
>genre fiction database
do it

[Anonymous No.9431374]

>>9431364
I will.
Eventually.
I promise.

[Anonymous No.9431402]

>>9431358

Myth-Adventures series by Robert Aspirin. A fantasy series with magic users that are dimensional travelers. Main character is human who's dimension is called Klah by other dimensions....he's a Klahd.His partner is a demon from Perv....he claims he's a Pervect but every one else calls them Perverts.

[Anonymous No.9431564]

>>9431328
Oh, i see now. Maybe they didn't know who the latinoamericans hate her for do it that, also it's a fucking crime there's not the original by Garcia Marquez

[Anonymous No.9431949]

>Two grown men fighting each other with flowers by throwing the leaves back and forth

[Anonymous No.9432318]

>>9431374
You might like this. Not the same thing, but I find it quite useful.

[Anonymous No.9432425]

>>9432318
Like what?
Drinking my own jizz?

[Anonymous No.9432432]

>>9432425
I'm afraid I don't understand.

[Anonymous No.9432527]

>>9432318
>>9432432
Whoops, I'm a little out of it today. Meant to post a link.
http://www.isfdb.org/

[Anonymous No.9432598]

Thanks to the anon who recommended these. I ran right through the series one after the next. Good cheesy military sf / adventure stories. At first I thought the gimmick would take the drama out of it, but in a way it added. The first person narrator actually could die and still go on to tell the story. I also liked the characters, who filled out clean simple types that work well in an ongoing series.

There were a few wobbles, and I kept expecting the series to implode but it was still pretty strong after six books.

Then I read the first Star Force and it just wasn't as good. It's a little remote, with the narrator giving a lot of summaries rather than involving us in key moments. Has anyone read it? Is this just a new writer finding his sea legs or does it weigh down the whole series?

[Anonymous No.9432676]

>>9432598
>Thanks to the anon
You're welcomed

>I read the first Star Force...Has anyone read it?
No I never touched that series. I recommend Imperium series if you liked Undying Mercenaries. Sadly didn't touch his other books as they didn't appeal to me(yet?)...

You can try Neal Asher's Agent Cormac Series now that you finished Bv Larson.

[Anonymous No.9433040]

I haven't read a book in a decade, someone suggested Malazan to me in a previous thread. This is what I picked up today. Let's do this lads.

[Anonymous No.9433042]

>>9433040
Oops forgot pic

[Anonymous No.9433054]

>>9433040
I like Malazan, but wouldn't've suggested it as a good way of getting back into reading. Just press on, it'll start coming together towards the end.

[Anonymous No.9433059]

>>9433054
...end of Gardens of the Moon rather.

[Anonymous No.9433066]

>>9433040
Genre fiction, mainly wuxia and xianxias, reignited my urge to read. Once you realize how little they offer you go back to the roots.

[Anonymous No.9433076]

>>9433042
not really a fan of that malazan cover.
are there different editions of malazan with better covers?

[Anonymous No.9433082]

>>9433076
dunno if it's still in print

[Anonymous No.9433087]

>>9433076
No clue there were only two copies at the bookstore, both the same.

[Anonymous No.9433091]

>>9433076
rather expensive

http://subterraneanpress.com/gardens-of-the-moon

[Anonymous No.9433097]

>releasing 15 novels in 2014

Seriously what the fuck

[Anonymous No.9433104]

>>9433091

[Anonymous No.9433108]

>>9433104

[Anonymous No.9433113]

>>9433076
I have this one. It's okay.

[Anonymous No.9433139]

>>9433076
>>9433113
I like most of the TOR covers.

[Anonymous No.9433143]

>>9433091
>125 dollars
>a single book
holy shit fuck that.

[Anonymous No.9433182]

>>9433097
That looks off.

[Anonymous No.9433188]

>>9433097
why sleep when you can WRITE MORE

[Anonymous No.9433228]

>>9433097
First time I hear of him or his books, anything worth a read?

[Anonymous No.9433230]

>>9433228
see >>9432598

[Anonymous No.9433233]

Splurged a bit today.

[Anonymous No.9433290]

>>9433228
>>9432598
Try book one if anyone's curious

https://mega.nz/#F!Zk0ChJra!GJ-AVuTX0CyASBqIHn6dhw

[Anonymous No.9433309]

I was thinking of buying the Prince of Thorns since I havent read an anti hero book (or a book really) in long time.

Would you recommend it?

[Anonymous No.9433327]

>>9432598
BV Larson shiller here. You can also try pic related.
I enjoyed it.

[Anonymous No.9433339]

>>9433309
I wouldn't tell you not to read it. His second trilogy was better imo but probably makes more sense to read Jorg's story first.

[Anonymous No.9433377]

>>9433228
>First time I hear of him or his books
>shilling him for 2 plus years in this general
>First time I hear of him
You guys just come to meme right? You don't read actual recommendations or book reviews?

[Anonymous No.9433382]

>>9433377
God forbid someone started browsing these threads recently.

[Anonymous No.9433385]

>>9433339
>His second trilogy was better imo
Why do you have to tell lies in the general?

[Anonymous No.9433391]

>>9433382
It's happening too steady. Along with the "I know this question has probably been asked here a lot".
They will both turn into memes if they don't watch it .

[Anonymous No.9433398]

What's a good place to start with Stanislaw Lem?

[Anonymous No.9433407]

>>9433377
nobody cares about your shitty charts you fat monkey

[Anonymous No.9433416]

>>9433398
Solaris or The Futurological Congress: From the Memoirs of Ijon Tichy, whichever sounds more appealing to you.

[Anonymous No.9433418]

>>9433391
Who is that cutiepotpie around the bottom right looking all elvish

[Anonymous No.9433428]

>>9433407
>yet more and more people are coming in the general thanking me for recommending those "shiity books" on that "shitty chart". Really makes you think.

[Anonymous No.9433435]

>>9433418
Forgot her(?) meme. Crop her out and google it.

[Anonymous No.9433598]

Where is the thing itself shill? Haven't seen him or the buried meme for months now... I wonder if they were one and the same..

[Anonymous No.9433721]

I have a question about the "The Expanse" series. I'm in the 4th book and I quite liked the science aspect so far. How everything works a bit different because of the hostile environment of space, the physical differences, the social aspects and so on.
But now I'm a bit confused. in book 4, a bunch of people go to live on New Terra which is described as having a gravity of 1.1g. Yet, they take a bunch of Belters there, how is that possible? Multiple times it has been mentioned that even thrust coming up to 1g is incredibly uncomfortable to belters, and during book 3 it is mentioned that Naomi would NEVER be able to set foot on earth because of the gravity and it seems like she couldn't even be there for a few days. So how come now suddenly they're all fine with 1.1g? That seems like a silly oversight to me considering how tight the books were on gravity differences so far.

[Anonymous No.9433753]

>>9433721
Ask cosmerefag. He is the only one here who reads it.

[Anonymous No.9433782]

>>9433753
I may be mistaken, but I think he just did.

[Anonymous No.9433841]

Found an old ratty copy of 2001: A Space Odyssey in my father's bookshelf and thoroughly enjoyed reading it. He has a copy of the sequel there too. Is it worth reading or should I not bother?

[Anonymous No.9433862]

>>9433841
If you've ever watched the movie, it's a good companion piece. If not, aside from the ending it's a very typical Clarke novel; i.e. an very hard-science setting with lots of interesting and exhaustively explained details and the bare minimum of plot to propel the characters through it. Sequel is basically more of the same, except even harder science and more details.

[Anonymous No.9433870]

>>9433862
>>9433841
Sorry, I didn't read your post properly; I thought you hadn't read 2001. 2010 is more typical Clarke (lots of details, little plot); the main difference is that it ignores the abstract and mystical elements of 2001's ending and also does a fair bit of retconning to make details more accurate. I'd say give it a read if you enjoyed 2001 even before the ending.

[Anonymous No.9434125]

What's the Hobb consensus?

[Anonymous No.9434275]

Really enjoying this at the moment.

Managed to find the whole series in a charity shop. ££24 for all 14 books aint bad. Got a lot of reading to do though, comfy times ahead.

[Anonymous No.9434363]

>>9433391

Why the fuck is that attention whore in the image? Did she used to post in this general?

[Anonymous No.9434474]

Is this going to be the greatest dystopia of the century?

Also, how come that old cyberpunks are now stand for the big corps, establishment and shiet they used to scare people with in their books?

[Anonymous No.9434494]

>>9433598
I posted about the book here and was greeted by a counter-shill after which I went on to shill it personally, so could be either of us.

Anyway I re-read it over Easter and it still holds up. Disgustingly verbose for a simple genre fiction reader like me but the meat of the novel is digestable as ever.

[Anonymous No.9434536]

>>9434474
Nothing written by Gibson will be the "greatest" anything.

[Anonymous No.9434546]

>>9434536
Let me help ya:
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/irony

[Anonymous No.9434577]

>>9434474
Old people usually settle for the status quo instead of raging against the machine.

[Anonymous No.9434588]

When is the next rothfuss book coming out

[Anonymous No.9434602]

>I stared at her. “What are you talking about?”
“Don’t tell me that you didn’t see the cocks. That huge woman with the headscarf and knives was selling them in the morning market. They were thick as my wrist!” She circled her wrist with her fingers by way of demonstration, then narrowed her eyes, suddenly sly. “You bought one, didn’t you?”
>“What would I want with a wrist-thick jade cock?”
>“I’ll go ahead and assume that the question is rhetorical.”
“I’ll go ahead and assume you understand that a polished stone phallus has nothing to do with love.”
>Ela frowned speculatively. “Let’s not say nothing.”
>“I’d imagine falling in love with a rock would be a stretch, even for you.”
>“Nothing wrong with stretching.” She winked.

Staveley writing chick lit now.

[Anonymous No.9434688]

>>9433139
>those last two covers

[Anonymous No.9434689]

>>9434688

How's The Mist book?

[Anonymous No.9434752]

>>9434363
Ask the person who made the pic. I just post it.
Btw, he hasn't been seen in a year I think.

[Anonymous No.9434776]

>>9433233
Looks like fun. I'll check her out.

[Anonymous No.9434780]

>>9434688
Nothing wrong with the books showing tragic and epic moments from the books, is it?

[Anonymous No.9434796]

>>9434125
Decent.

[Anonymous No.9434802]

>>9434474
>big corps
I don't want to start shit or anything but isn't Trump literally a big corp?

[Anonymous No.9434803]

Is grounded science fiction dead? Is the only successful way forward to write blatant Star Trek knockoffs with no regard for realism, instead incorporating only a thinly-veiled philosophical message over an unused PeeWee's PlayHouse set?

[Anonymous No.9434824]

>>9434803
Most modern sci-fi writers probably lack the scientific knowledge to write futurist fiction with any degree of verisimilitude. And those with the scientific underpinning aren't always the best of writers.
There also probably isn't much of an audience for it anymore

[Anonymous No.9434830]

>>9434803
>>9434824
You could sort of approach post-singularity stuff as being "grounded", even if it does do a lot of quantum handwaving.

[Anonymous No.9434923]

>>9434125
Farseer is decent. I remember the ship books getting pretty stupid towards the end.

[Anonymous No.9434946]

Red sister was pretty fun. Even if it was fairly predictable.

[Anonymous No.9434952]

>>9434803
>Is grounded science fiction dead? Is the only successful way forward to write blatant Star Trek knockoffs with no regard for realism
You do know that a lot of things we have today were written about in sci-fi novels first (not based in reality at the time), then persons who read those books as a kid made it their life's mission to bring those gadgets to reality?

You know the "warp drive" concept was because of star trek or enterprise or w/e?

Stop being an elitist cunt. Sci-fi has always been about the what if, and not the what now. Predicting science trends (with theories) has always been the norm. You sound like you are too fucking educated in science to enjoy scifi because you know it's wrong. So now you want others to bend to your will and write hard, believable scifi.

You and your contemporaries are what is killing sci-fi.

[Anonymous No.9434957]

>>9434946
Got red sister and skullsworn tucked away. Will get to them before the next Sanderson book.

[Anonymous No.9434994]

>>9434803
I will never understand this obsession some of you spergs have about sci-fi needing to be as realistic as possible. Or even completely real.

[Anonymous No.9435016]

>>9434952
>>9434994
>grounded = autistically devoted to realism
Stop being autistic, there's plenty of territory between Star Wars and NASA grant papers

[Anonymous No.9435029]

>>9433059
start of darujistan rather.

[Anonymous No.9435030]

is dune worth reading or is it just a meme?

[Anonymous No.9435033]

>>9435030

Meme

[Anonymous No.9435034]

>>9435030
First book is.

[Anonymous No.9435057]

>>9435016
>tfw to smart to read anything that isn't a peer reviewed paper

[Anonymous No.9435073]

>>9435016
>lol I ain't gots dat reading comprehension

[Anonymous No.9435122]

>>9435057
This is exactly it. They want a peer reviewed scifi novel.

[Anonymous No.9435131]

>>9435122
Say no more my man
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_Fiction_Studies#Peer_review

[Anonymous No.9435185]

>>9435073
t. Anons who responded to original point

[Anonymous No.9435236]

>>9434275
Enjoy, it's one of my favorite series to go back to if I'm out of newer fantasy to read.

[Anonymous No.9435242]

Any good series with necromancy and necromancy being used a lot, excluding Cabal, Sabriel, Prince of Thorns

[Anonymous No.9435276]

>>9431949
yeah... that series is just awkward and I'm still not sure what to make of it.

am I a pleb?

[Anonymous No.9435286]

>>9435242

Throne of Bones by Brian McNaughton.

[Anonymous No.9435302]

>>9435286
Imma try this and the one from vox day.

[Anonymous No.9435317]

Is the Aspect-Emperor series really not worth reading? Can't seem to find a unified opinion on it

[Anonymous No.9435318]

All of the recomendations for fantasy are trilogies or sagas of 10 books or more.

Can I read a good story that only encompass a single book please?.

[Anonymous No.9435342]

The forced gender-parity in McClellan's books makes them almost unreadable. I like strong female characters but taking half of the soldiers and executives and calling them female is really not the way to do it

[Anonymous No.9435351]

>>9435318
Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell

[Anonymous No.9435353]

>>9435286

Thanks I'll give it a go

[Anonymous No.9435363]

>>9435351

>Womameme author

kek

[Anonymous No.9435384]

>>9435363
>won't read trilogies
>won't read female authors
You're really limiting your options here, but you could try something by Stephen King, I guess

[Anonymous No.9435391]

>>9435384
>>won't read trilogies

But I do read trilogies, just not trilogies written by womamemes

[Anonymous No.9435396]

>>9435342
>I like strong female characters
What are some fantasy series that do good female characters?

[Anonymous No.9435397]

>>9432598
I read these recently too. They're 100% cheese and Ham and completely devoid of brains, but they're a fun ride. Guns, girls and big damn heroes. The ending is rather abrupt though.
Not a big fan of Larson's other series desu,

[Anonymous No.9435403]

>>9435396

Sabriel

[Anonymous No.9435431]

>>9435403
That's it? Was hoping for a bigger reading list. Well I'd been meaning to pick up Sabriel eventually, and I'm between authors at the moment.

[Anonymous No.9435434]

>>9435342
If that bothers you, just change the characters into males inside your mind. Work in most cases.

[Anonymous No.9435435]

>>9435431

There's 5 books in the series

[Anonymous No.9435438]

>>9435396

Malazan

[Anonymous No.9435444]

Can we add "To Kill a God" to the recommendation charts?

[Anonymous No.9435446]

>>9435435
Only the first two are decent though.

[Anonymous No.9435451]

>>9435446

Only the last one was garbage though, I enjoyed the first ones

[Anonymous No.9435460]

>>9435444
fuck off

[Anonymous No.9435463]

>>9431141
I really really liked ummon

[Anonymous No.9435469]

Hyperion cantos tv adaptation when?

[Anonymous No.9435471]

>>9435460

Why not? It's a great book

[Anonymous No.9435480]

>think of a story about "demons" entering modern day whatever country

I struggle to imagine how to give the beasts some sort of fighting chance without a huge amount of magic involved.
But adding magic has its own flaws. And plot armour to make them immune to modern weapons is a cop-out.

If the beasts just try to smash their way through, they're inevitably going to be decimated by guns.

The moment the army gets involved it's over.

Even gargantuan beasts won't be able to stand up against the force of a 250 lbs Paveway to the face.

I just fail to see how they're going to be a threat.

But maybe that could be a short story, a very early panic about a hell port opening but the threat being contained within weeks.

[Anonymous No.9435493]

>>9435122
>what is Peter Watts

I used the same articles as him in an astrobiology project once lel

[Anonymous No.9435498]

>>9435480
What if the demons had guns

[Anonymous No.9435506]

>>9435480

Just make them super fast sanic style
Good luck hitting something that is walking on walls and jumping you at 90km/s

[Anonymous No.9435516]

Is this good? Been looking for some stuff in the same basic conceptual territory as Eragon, only not shite.

[Anonymous No.9435521]

>>9435480
It can be handled other ways. For example, the Felix Castor series has them as being 4 dimensional beings. "Hell" is real, but it's not an afterlife so much as a different plane of existence and all the myths are mostly just them bragging. Demons regularly impose themselves using what are effectively remote controlled meat puppet, which are sometimes people or sometimes constructs of various materials. Those hosts are above human ability but perfectly possible to destroy, but destroying them only means they need to catch another host which can be easy, if they're famous enough that idiots try to summon them, or very hard if they have to build it from scratch.

But the archetypal "Legions of the Damned invade earth on the last day" has been done in an e-book trilogy that culminates with humanity invading, occupying and nuking heaven. I can't remember what it's called though..

[Anonymous No.9435529]

>>9435480

Imagine The Demon Cycle, just in modern world, guns wouldn't work unless bullets were warded.
I like that

[Anonymous No.9435534]

>>9435516
It's alright. I've only read the first book and it's been a while since then, but I remember it being very heavy on worldbuilding and setting details and light on adventure. The main character does not want to fuck the dragon. Might go a different direction in the later books, but the first seemed like decent fantasy, a priority if you're specifically looking for something with dragon buddies.

Also speaking of which, can we talk about how shit Eragon was? I was rereading some of my old YA books to see how they held up from an adult perspective and holy shit is that book awful.

[Anonymous No.9435545]

>>9435384

Wasnt me, I am not an autistic pol fag.

Also, its not that I dont read trilogies or sagas, its just that I dont wanna read one right now

[Anonymous No.9435562]

>>9435534
>Also speaking of which, can we talk about how shit Eragon was? I was rereading some of my old YA books to see how they held up from an adult perspective and holy shit is that book awful.
The sad thing is there's a few, isolated bits that are interesting - the thing about taking energy from other living things to boost your magic, I though could open up some ethical questions, and the men who can't feel pain - but he doesn't really do anything with them. And so much of it is obviously just Star Wars.

[Anonymous No.9435564]

>>9435545
>I am not an autistic pol fag.

I've read a few female authors and I haven't liked any of their shit, so I won't bother with any other female books

[Anonymous No.9435565]

>>9431358
The Number of the Beast...Heinlein

[Anonymous No.9435570]

>>9435564
What have you tried? Because Sturgeon's Law applies to both sexes

[Anonymous No.9435574]

>>9435564

I would recommend to you to read a statistic book before you read fantasy

[Anonymous No.9435576]

>>9435570

A bunch of shit here recommended as "good" female authors and books, it was some time ago I don't even remember the names, I remember only being able to finish one and even that was shit, in fact I don't think I've ever dropped a book I started to read if it was written by a man
>Reading a book
>Author's name is ambiguous
>Drop it mid because it's shit
>Look up the author
>It's a female

every time

[Anonymous No.9435585]

>>9435576

Have you ever had the thought that maybe you read a book written by a women and like it but you didnt realize its a women since it was ambiguous?

[Anonymous No.9435590]

>>9435529
I feel like needing warded bullets is some sort of cop out.

>>9435506
That could work.

>>9435521
That's also a possibility but it would also make the story completely different.
Closer to a more typical urban fantasy.

>>9435498
Then it'd make the demons a bit too human, maybe.
I should think about it.

[Anonymous No.9435591]

>>9435585

No I always check the author after I read the book, I don't want to beforehand because it might distort things

[Anonymous No.9435594]

>>9435590

It is magic, and it's the system, it works, you have protection wards and offensive wards

[Anonymous No.9435596]

>>9435562
There's one world-building conversation that I really, really liked, which makes me wonder where it was ripped off from. There's a bit where Obi Wan is talking about using magic as a weapon, and he breaks it down that you don't actually need that much force to kill someone. You can throw fireballs, throw people off cliffs, strike people with lightning, but all that's just an indirect means to an end. All you actually have to do is slice an artery in the brain and you're done. All the flashy stuff is only necessary if you're being cockblocked by more magic.

Now the main problem here is that the story establishes that somebody unprotected by magic power can effectively be instantly killed by any trained wizard, which raises two issues. One, that the various untrained peasants who fight against the king don't instantly die. Two, the definition of "protected by magical power" is incredibly vague and nebulous, so future battles against enemy mages effectively become stalemates until the hero "finds a way around their wards" and they instantly die, which makes major battles feel like a lot of pointless faffing around until an arbitrary resolution.

[Anonymous No.9435603]

>>9435590
They don't have to have guns from the start. Like they erupt out of the ground in rural Mexico all with flaming swords and barbed whips and run into some drug lord, and they're all like "oh, what's this then?"

[Anonymous No.9435607]

>>9435585
Please stop responding. He only does it for the attention.

[Anonymous No.9435611]

>>9435603
And then the army gets involved and they get dealt with by way of JDAMs.


>>9435594
I prefer to solve the problem via other means first, if all else fails then I can start using magic.

[Anonymous No.9435612]

>>9435611

Fantasy without magic is boring

[Anonymous No.9435613]

>>9435603
This has all been done in a web novel series, the legions of hell erupt out of a portal in the middle east in Roman style formations with shield walls, lances and trumpets, and walk smack bang into an American Artillery kill zone.

The series was either called Apocalypse!? or Armaggeddon!? if I remember correctly, but it was never officially published despite being better than most of the indie shit on Amazon.

[Anonymous No.9435618]

>>9435611
Well they're demons, I don't think they'd let one setback keep them down. I mean where would they go if they're killed? They can pick up this modern military shit along the way.

[Anonymous No.9435666]

>>9435612
Difference between magics.

Highly powerful beasts that can live forever and don't need oxygen to survive is some form on magic.
Needing warded bullets because normal bullets/explosives don't work is a different level of magic, a level I don't like.

>>9435618
The killed ones are dead.

They could pick up technology but don't envision them to be very advanced so being able to set up factories would be nigh-impossible unless they can steal sufficient amount of technology.

Any way, if they also start using modern weapons/equipment it'd become a guerilla war (which I guess shouldn't be too hard to write) or a semi-conventional war if they get access to fighter jets/tanks/etc. which would be become a very bad write because I don't know shit about the logistics/strategics and tactics needed in a conventional war.

Maybe I'm just really restricting my freedom by trying to limit magic as much as possible.

And putting the setting in a medieval period would also be hard since I'd prefer to use modern western values which would likely conflict with a medieval setting.

[Anonymous No.9435694]

>>9435666
>I'd prefer to use modern western values which would likely conflict with a medieval setting
Doesn't seem to bother most writers of medieval fantasy.

[Anonymous No.9435700]

>>9435397
He's a z-list writer, so he can't afford endings.

A new volume just came out in March -- Rogue World.

[Anonymous No.9435718]

>>9435666
>putting the setting in a medieval period would also be hard since I'd prefer to use modern western values which would likely conflict with a medieval setting.
Some of the most successful authors who write medieval fantasy don't know the first thing about how medieval society functioned and just write it as if it were 19th century America half the time..

[Anonymous No.9435725]

Give me the quick rundown on Powder Mage.
How sandersonesque is it, lots of magic I hope? Good kind? Or boring kind?

[Anonymous No.9435743]

>>9435694
>>9435718
Planning to write it for myself, not commercial success.

[Anonymous No.9435750]

>>9435725
I want to know this as well.

[Anonymous No.9435795]

>>9435743
Bullshit, you just want attention. If it were something actually written for yourself you'd have no reason to crowd-source ideas because there'd be nobody to please except yourself. If you actually care about it being "correct" or "good" outside what you think is cool or interesting then some part of you is judging it as a work intended for an audience outside yourself and it is not a personal piece. I know, I've written many, many stories just for myself that are never intended for publication. I didn't need to crowdsource ideas for them or shop around concepts with others because I already knew what I wanted when I sat down to write them and the exercise was just about making that concept come into being through words.

Sit down and sort your shit out. Are you actually writing for yourself or are you fishing for a publish-able idea?

[Anonymous No.9435802]

>>9435795

Some people can write but just aren't very creative
Not everyone is a carbon copy of you

[Anonymous No.9435810]

>>9435802
>Some people can write but just aren't very creative
They call those people copyists and scriveners. CREATIVE writing you may notice requires creativity. Without it no amount of crowdsourcing can make your writing interesting.

[Anonymous No.9435817]

>>9435810

I'm talking very vague ideas you will expand upon, not giving him the entire fucking plotline to follow

[Anonymous No.9435850]

>>9435795
> you'd have no reason to crowd-source ideas because there'd be nobody to please except yourself
False assumption.
I'm trying to get "crowd-source" ideas because I'm stuck, I'm just trying to find a way for the "demons" to work in a way I'm happy with.

>Sit down
I am, but there's possibly more than 1 way to get what I want.

>>9435817
Where did I ask for a plotline?

[Anonymous No.9435871]

>>9435850

You didn't, I was explaining to him what I meant

[Anonymous No.9435963]

>>9435871
That's fair.

[Anonymous No.9436045]

>>9435850
>I'm trying to get "crowd-source" ideas because I'm stuck
And I'm saying you're only "stuck" because you're not actually writing for yourself, but for other people. If you were writing for yourself you'd never be "stuck" unless you are clueless dolt who does not even understand what he wants out of his own stories. Personal writing has two stages: in progress, and done. There is no "stuck" because there's nothing to it except what you want to put in it. If you run out of stuff to put in it then you're done. Start something new.

[Anonymous No.9436264]

get a load of this retard 9436206

[Anonymous No.9436266]

>>9436264
Nice bait

[Anonymous No.9436289]

So can we all agree that the Golds in Red Rising were based and deserved to rule?

[Anonymous No.9436300]

>>9435317
Depends on how much you liked consult shenanigans. Plus there is less cucking

[Anonymous No.9436324]

>>9435725
It's written by one of sandersons pupils so there's plenty of magic but with less of sandersons Mormon autism. Still not particularly edgy though.

Also fair warning the third book is noticeably rushed

[Anonymous No.9436357]

>>9436324

Does it at least go further then just manipulating bullets?

[Anonymous No.9436391]

>>9436357
Yes. There's three different "types" of magic in it

[Anonymous No.9436407]

>>9435700
>He's a z-list writer
Nah, he's been posted here before and has deals with an actual publisher. Simon Bucher-Jones is a z-list writer.

[Anonymous No.9436424]

>>9436289
comic due out shortly.

[Anonymous No.9436439]

>>9436324
>It's written by one of sandersons pupils
Can someone redpill me on the Mormon cabal in SFF? Between Sanderson's lot, Correia, Card and Stephanie bloody Meyer it seems like a disproportionately large number.

[Anonymous No.9436442]

>>9435725
It's like Sanderson but he's willing to be more "adult" that Sanderson. There are wizards and then there are mages that can shoot guns better, which obviously get talked about more. It's a pretty easy read and although it's not super groundbreaking it's a fun read desu. Would recommend.

[Anonymous No.9436454]

>>9436439
Do you want the quick rundown or the whole enchilada?

[Anonymous No.9436527]

>>9436454
>whole enchilada
Sounds tasty

[Anonymous No.9436683]

>>9435590
>Then it'd make the demons a bit too human, maybe.
>I should think about it.

nigga demons invented guns

Whereto with look compos'd Satan repli'd.
Not uninvented that, which thou aright [ 470 ]
Believst so main to our success, I bring;
Which of us who beholds the bright surface
Of this Ethereous mould whereon we stand,
This continent of spacious Heav'n, adornd
With Plant, Fruit, Flour Ambrosial, Gemms & Gold, [ 475 ]
Whose Eye so superficially surveyes
These things, as not to mind from whence they grow
Deep under ground, materials dark and crude,
Of spiritous and fierie spume, till toucht
With Heav'ns ray, and temperd they shoot forth [ 480 ]
So beauteous, op'ning to the ambient light.
These in thir dark Nativitie the Deep
Shall yield us pregnant with infernal flame,
Which into hallow Engins long and round
Thick-rammd, at th' other bore with touch of fire [ 485 ]
Dilated and infuriate shall send forth
From far with thundring noise among our foes
Such implements of mischief as shall dash
To pieces, and orewhelm whatever stands
Adverse, that they shall fear we have disarmd [ 490 ]
The Thunderer of his only dreaded bolt.
Nor long shall be our labour, yet ere dawne,
Effect shall end our wish. Mean while revive;
Abandon fear; to strength and counsel joind
Think nothing hard, much less to be despaird. [ 495 ]
He ended, and his words thir drooping chere
Enlightn'd, and thir languisht hope reviv'd.
Th' invention all admir'd, and each, how hee
To be th' inventor miss'd, so easie it seemd
Once found, which yet unfound most would have thought [ 500 ]
Impossible: yet haply of thy Race
In future dayes, if Malice should abound,
Some one intent on mischief, or inspir'd
With dev'lish machination might devise
Like instrument to plague the Sons of men [ 505 ]
For sin, on warr and mutual slaughter bent.
Forthwith from Councel to the work they flew,
None arguing stood, innumerable hands
Were ready, in a moment up they turnd
Wide the Celestial soile, and saw beneath [ 510 ]
Th' originals of Nature in thir crude
Conception; Sulphurous and Nitrous Foame
They found, they mingl'd, and with suttle Art,
Concocted and adusted they reduc'd
To blackest grain, and into store convey'd: [ 515 ]
Part hidd'n veins diggd up (nor hath this Earth
Entrails unlike) of Mineral and Stone,
Whereof to found thir Engins and thir Balls
Of missive ruin; part incentive reed
Provide, pernicious with one touch to fire. [ 520 ]

[Anonymous No.9437102]

>finally found something original, readable and highly fantastic
>tfw I still don't care enough to read it unless I'm on the train

[Anonymous No.9437105]

>>9436683
nigga demons ?!

[Anonymous No.9437135]

>>9437102
>finally found something original, readable and highly fantastic
You can't post that and not give the name.

[Anonymous No.9437136]

you guys got anything set in ancient greece?

[Anonymous No.9437214]

Does anyone else remember that one scene from Malazan Book of the Fallen where a bunch of the leaders from the various factions meet and the author makes it a point to point out how they're all female by having one of the characters say so? I remember thinking, "Okay; this is a bit weird and silly to point out something like that, but I'm sure it will lead somewhere", but then it turns out it led to nothing. It was just Erikson virtue signaling that he's down with the feminism.

[Anonymous No.9437219]

>>9437136
Gemmell wrote a two book fantasy series around Alexander the Great's timeline and a trilogy about Troy.

[Anonymous No.9437284]

I'm going deeper into Philip K Dick. After seven novels and a lot of short stories, I'm beginning the Valis trilogy. However, I write this because I would like to broaden my SF collection into other authors who share some of his preoccupations with (un)reality, identity, false memory, gnostic subtexts - as well as his way of weaving stream-of-consciousness passages and not being afraid of humor. So far I have found Robert Silverberg dovetails nicely with him, a contemporary author who has also written stories of telepathy and androids, and a distinct voice, more concerned with matters of the soul whereas Dick was getting obsessed with matters of the creator. Ursula Le Guin I have also enjoyed, even when there is little obvious overlap. She provides a further view into the Berkley milieu PKD came from; the same school, even. She imitated him at least once (her taoist Lathe Of Heaven) as well as corresponded with him. But who else is there? One name I on the periphery is Thomas Ditsch. Is he all that? Another, Barry Malzberg. One more distant name, Norman Spinrad. Any opinions, recommendations or observations of these three will be surely read by me, even hours and days from this moment; I say this without exaggeration, because I read SFFG every day and have done so for months, and I am inordinately fixated on New Wave SF.

[Anonymous No.9437457]

>>9435318
The emperor's soul

[Anonymous No.9437517]

So, /sffg/, I was stupid enough to read "Reddit writes a sci-fi: a novel". It was, as expected, rather shit. Can you recommend me something to wash the taste out of my mouth?

[Anonymous No.9437529]

Just thought you guys would like to see this.
http://veekyforums.com/thread/9431124/literature/sffg-science-fiction-fantasy-general.html

[Anonymous No.9437559]

So I'm about a quarter of the way through this, and so far it's been almost nothing but multi-page tracts of exposition with a plot that's gotten less page time than any single one of the variety of largely irrelevant side characters that have been introduced for seemingly no purpose at all.
The plot about the alien dyson sphere has gotten 3 chapters
3 chapters were devoted to some yuppie chick going hang gliding and fucking a nigger
7 chapters about some commie terrorist and the cop chasing him
and 1 chapter about a wageslave who hates his job.

At this point I'm skipping pages and skimming to see if anything is happening and usually nothing is happening. I skip a page when an expositiom dump starts, and it's STILL going on the next page, and fairly often the next, too.

[Anonymous No.9437571]

What's something good that focuses on human politics?

[Anonymous No.9437670]

>>9437517
The Quran

[Anonymous No.9437819]

>>9437571
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.9437910]

>>9437214
It was in DoD or TCG as they were splitting up.
I didn't think much of it. Reading too much into that seems pointless.

[Anonymous No.9437998]

>>9437819
Kill yourself faggot.

[Anonymous No.9438012]

I love Doom, I want to read science fiction or fantasy that has demons from good old hell as the bad guys.

[Anonymous No.9438016]

>>9438012

The Demon Cycle

[Anonymous No.9438017]

>>9437910
That's the point: it was utterly pointless which is why it stuck in my brain. Just an example of how stupidly preachy Erikson became the longer the series went on.

[Anonymous No.9438019]

>>9438012
I read the Diablo novels and regret nothing.

[Anonymous No.9438041]

>>9438016

>look up the books

I wont judge by the cover
I wont judge by the cover
I wont judge by the cover

[Anonymous No.9438317]

>>9437529
You know that's just a site that autoarchives 4chan threads while giving the posters random user names, right? I mean, one could infer it simply by reading your link.

[Anonymous No.9438327]

>Pretencious cover
>Description vaguely tells about colonised Solar System and Red Faction style rebellion of Mars miners.
>Why not give it a try?
>It's yet another shitty "divergented hungry gamers running in the maze in the twilight" for the retarded teenagers.

I've been bamboozled. I guess now I know how rape victims feel themselves

[Anonymous No.9438339]

>>9438041
There are different covers Mr Autism. Take the one with just the text, you splerg.

>>9437571
Fug off. Any time you guys say "good" in your request, and we give you recommendations you always say that they are shit. List some of these good books you read, so we won't have of the repeat performance of you saying "I read those already, give me something else".

[Anonymous No.9438341]

>>9438317
the quality dips a bit over time but they're enjoyable enough

[Anonymous No.9438352]

>>9437571
Just read Robert Harris' Cicero trilogy. Not SFF but the levels of political scheming and backstabbing are off the charts.

[Anonymous No.9438370]

anything different?

[Anonymous No.9438373]

>>9438317
Your reddit is showing you fucking mong.
It's a phishing site that scraps posts from 4chan and applies usernames to make it look like people use it. If you search google it will pop up.

Also if you haven't noticed, they change any mention of /lit/ to Veeky Forums. What's frightening is that is listed everyones' goodreads account in the goodreads thread a while ago. They had them all at the top.
http://veekyforums.com/thread/9427218/literature/goodreads.html

You want to know how I figured out you were reddit huh? Well when I did a little research on that site, it turns out that stupid ignorant reddites think it's an archive site, and use it as such.

[Anonymous No.9438391]

>>9438373
>scraps posts from 4chan and applies usernames to make it look like people use it
How is that different from what I said? And yes, I know it's clickbait. Thought it was too obvious to mention.

[Anonymous No.9438393]

>>9438327
>Why not give it a try?
You know you exposed yourself right? You didn't give shit a try. You dropped the book part way through, during the fucking hunger games fingers in the air whistle shit. Everyone that completed book one knows you are lying about reading the entire book.
You are one of those fuckbois who read a few pages then comes and screams about how shit a book is.

I wish you had a filter so we could filter your lying ass in the future. Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.9438404]

>>9438327
Don't even bother, the first and third books are literal trash. Only the second book is entertaining - in an Aldnoah.zero way.

[Anonymous No.9438413]

>>9438391
.... Do you know what archive and clickbait, and scam means? Those three are not synonymous...
That site is stealing people's posts here, and changing words so ignorants such as yourself would click "start new message".

Real 4chan archive sites doesn't change shit, they are exactly how they are posted here, pictures and all.

[Anonymous No.9438422]

>>9438404
>Aldnoah.zero
>anime autist who watches animated little girls giving panty shots is calling books trash
Well.. I don't even know how to respond to this..

[Anonymous No.9438433]

>>9438422
Book 1: Hunger Games - the exact plot
Book 2: Aldnoah.zero - the exact plot
Book 3: "I pressed a big red reset button and it made the Death Star esplode" xDD
>actually defending an overrated YA reddit-tier normie shit book
Yes it's complete understandable that you're the YA audience for these books complaining about anime on an anime image board. Go back toﾠReddit.

[Anonymous No.9438436]

>>9433391
which series IS most like "berserk"?

[Anonymous No.9438446]

>>9438436
Abercrombie's First Law.
And that book is as completely shit as Berserk has been since after the Golden Age arc. All promises, no delivery. The only good thing about those books is Glokta and the ending of the trilogy - which I saw coming from a mile away.

[Anonymous No.9438457]

Which fantasy series would you recommend that doesn't have cringey dialogue or long passages that sound like an autist with a faux-british accent wrote them?

[Anonymous No.9438465]

>>9434689
very similar to the film except instead of the controversial ending it in very typical King fashion has no ending at all
>>9434780
the blue/orange colour grading makes me want to vomit and it looks like bad generic pulp. The earlier designs at least look like comfy retro pulp

[Anonymous No.9438467]

>>9434275
That's one of the books series that got me into fantasy. I've actually started it again last week and planned to read it until the end now that it's been written.
Comfy times ahead indeed.

[Anonymous No.9438487]

>>9438433
>ya audience
>book is GRI APPROVED
>actually knows what reddit likes
>implying I ever went to reddit
>>>/a/
Get back to your containment board. I think we should adopt /a/ attitudes and report any mention of anime in this general, like how /a/ reported naruto threads.

[Anonymous No.9438494]

>>9438446
>which I saw coming from a mile away.
>implying you foresaw I drive a hard bargain

[Anonymous No.9438495]

>>9438487
>ya
>YA
You're the one who needs a containment thread for your delusions.

[Anonymous No.9438504]

>>9438495
Yes because we all know rape, cannibalism and gay incest is YA worthy books.
Just kys, you fucking moe fag. Go to your eternal lucky star threads.

[Anonymous No.9438511]

>>9438504
>Yes because we all know rape, cannibalism and gay incest is YA worthy books
Are you surprised that it's anything except YA?

[Anonymous No.9438537]

>>9438504
You are also more than welcome to attempt reporting any post mentioning anime and see how fast you get banned for rule 7.

[Anonymous No.9438555]

>>9438446

you have to admit, Glokta is just savage

[Anonymous No.9438556]

>>9438555
A surprisingly nuanced character.

[Anonymous No.9438570]

>>9438555
Tempted to read Sharp Ends just for the young Glokta short story.

[Anonymous No.9438595]

>>9438511
>dat chin
>dat azz

[Anonymous No.9438618]

>>9438537
I'm not going to announce my reports dum dum. :)
Also, if you post /a/ in /lit/ you will get deleted warned.
T. Experience
So continue moeing up and see what happens. :)

[Anonymous No.9438619]

>>9438618
>:)

[Anonymous No.9438627]

>>9438619
Hey. If catfag can do if so can I. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.9438629]

>>9438627
>catfag
Literally who?

[Anonymous No.9438647]

>>9438413
The site is saving posts from 4chan. This is archiving. The intention with which it does so doesn't change this. And the purpose is to BAIT people into registering. I don't know why you're getting so triggered over my word choice, or acting like you're being anything but obvious when you point out it's not a legit site (which I never suggested otherwise).

[Anonymous No.9438679]

>>9438629
Don't pretend you don't know

[Anonymous No.9438682]

>>9438679
Oh.

[Anonymous No.9438718]

>>9438457
any takers?

[Anonymous No.9438754]

>get shilled this book multiple times
>drunken incest rape
>corpse fucking
>hundreds of men I had in my bed
>incest
>rape me
>push it in hard
>make it hurt
>rougher
>rip my clothes
Which one of you recommended this shit?

[Anonymous No.9438761]

>>9438457
>>9438718
Anything written by Americlaps?

[Anonymous No.9438767]

>>9438718
Sorry anon

[Anonymous No.9438771]

>>9438767
No apologies needed, friend

[Anonymous No.9438794]

>>9438767
How many levels you operating on anon?

[Anonymous No.9438813]

>>9438404
But Aldnoah is trash. Except the first episode which was made by Urobutcher

[Anonymous No.9438905]

How connected are the Hyperion novels? Are they parts of a single story, or are they self-contained.

[Anonymous No.9438930]

>>9438905
Or rather, is there a Hyperion equivalent of this?

[Anonymous No.9438975]

>>9438905
Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion is basically the same book. You should absolutely read both of them.

Endymion and Rise of Endymion is another, very different type of story in the same universe. A lot of people don't like Endymion. Give it a try if you really like Hyperion.

[Anonymous No.9438992]

>>9438905
I felt that the second book really stepped on the first by overexplaining it.

Dropped after that.

[Anonymous No.9439002]

>>9438930
more pics like this? i'd love to see some of the big fantasy series get the same treatment

[Anonymous No.9439128]

>>9439002
I don't understand you people. Just fucking read the books in publication order, why do you unnecessarily complicate shit?

[Anonymous No.9439135]

>>9439128
the picture doesn't address which order to read the books, but which books to bother reading

[Anonymous No.9439168]

>>9438813
He didn't make any episodes of it, he only did a basic outline of the plot for the first 3 episodes and then they only bothered using the first one. Aldnoah.Zero was basically a Frankenstein's monster of an anime that Aniplex made by assembling all the latest most popular talents in the industry into one project: Urobucchi couldn't actually be tapped for writing it but they got him to contribute just enough to put his name on the thing, but they still got the director of Fate/Zero to direct it and Hiroyuki Sawano to do the OST, and a few other prominent people like that at other key positions. And then Aniplex went and bragged about how it was going to topple Gundam as the biggest mecha show ever.

Watching it bomb was like watching a bloated Hollywood blockbuster fail miserably; extremely satisfying. Fuck Aniplex, and fuck the mindless urobutcher fanboys who insisted the show was good because they thought their messiah wrote it and then quickly abandoned it after they found out he had almost nothing to do with the entire production.

[Anonymous No.9439171]

>>9439135
>skipping books
Objection fucking sustained.

[Anonymous No.9439179]

>hurr the picture is about publication order
wrong
>well then hurr it's about skipping books
wrong again

inb4 some other stupid comment

[Anonymous No.9439186]

>>9439171
If you bothered looking at the chart, it's not recommending you "skip" anything. At most, it says to read ALL of the FIRST SIX books and don't bother with anything after because they're absolute shit. Which is correct, by the way.

[Anonymous No.9439266]

>>9438930
the Hyperion equivalent is stop after Hyperion

[Anonymous No.9439359]

So, I got redirected from /wsr/ to /vg/mbgg/, from /vg/mbgg/ to /tg/, and from /tg/'s CYOAs thread to /lit/. Now, I ended up here: I'm looking for gamebooks/interactive fictions/textbooks. Any you can recommend? Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.9439404]

>The end of the Chain of Dogs story arc
Holy shit I am mad. This is an anger I haven't felt since the endings of The Man in the Iron Mask and A Game of Thrones.

[Anonymous No.9439431]

>>9438511
These are some shitty ass book covers.

[Anonymous No.9439434]

>>9439404
It only gets worse

[Anonymous No.9439435]

>>9433377
>The Complete Malazan Book of the Fallen
I'm trying to imagine that as if it were a physical copy, and I'm wondering if its actually possible to bind that many pages together.

[Anonymous No.9439460]

>>9439434
Better get the Xanax ready, I guess.

[Anonymous No.9439506]

>>9439359
I don't think I understand the question. You mean like Choose Your Own Adventure type books where you "interact" to change the story, or more like a bestiary/textbook about fictional things?

[Anonymous No.9439544]

>>9438930
Fall of Hyperion wraps up the overall story of Hyperion very neatly with an exceptional conclusion, but loses the "Different Characters Various Stories" angle that Hyperion had. Still excellent.

Other two are arse

[Anonymous No.9439560]

>>9439435
>and I'm wondering if its actually possible to bind that many pages together.

Why not?

[Anonymous No.9439589]

>An actual G*d appears early in The Powder Mage

wtf?

[Anonymous No.9439627]

>>9439359
You pose an inexact and nebulous question, and so it's little wonder you've been playing blind man's buff across 4chan. There are choose your adventure books out there, which would seem to fit your requirements most exactly. But your query also suggests that you seek something akin to a bestiary, as >>9439506 points out.Do you just want books of monsters for RPG making and inspiration? Well, Pliny The Elder wrote a natural history during the Flavian Dynasty full of all sorts of fantastical creatures, sciapods and cynocephali; that is to say men with only one giant foot - the better for shading their heads from the sun - dog-headed men, and ancient race who lived without mouths and who survived merely by smelling fruit. Is this what you're looking for? Probably not, but the Natural History is something the likes of Gene Wolfe and other creative types will have in their libraries.

Two thousand years later, Jorge Borges would produce a more accessible and concise volume, a Manual de Zoologia Fantastica (Book Of Imaginary Beings) containing descriptions of 100+ creatures from myth.

[Anonymous No.9439634]

That's so Random!

[Anonymous No.9439707]

>>9439506
>>9439627
CYOA books.
Don't like Borges, desu.

[Anonymous No.9439733]

>>9439707
You can always try your local library, they might have what you want in their children's section.

[Anonymous No.9439748]

TUC ARCs SOON

[Anonymous No.9439752]

>>9439404
I still get goosebumps and sad thinking about it, and I read it like three years ago.

[Anonymous No.9439787]

>>9439748
who is this tuc

[Anonymous No.9439802]

I'm a sad gay little baby with no friends and an IQ of 90. Is scifi or fantasy more for me?

[Anonymous No.9439825]

>>9439802
I think pretending you read modernism and postmodernism and calling books shit without explaining why will probably be more your speed.

[Anonymous No.9439843]

>>9439748
>>9439787

He keeps asking for TUC review copies. I don't know why he can't just buy his own anyway. They're just like Ritz.

[Anonymous No.9439850]

>>9439733

BTFO'd 'em, BOOM

[Anonymous No.9439877]

>>9439627

Props for Wolfe/Borges. You probably don't belong in the sfff thread though, you should be prasing Gurm or talking about how good 1984/Vonnegut are.

[Anonymous No.9439908]

~Right

This took a while so be kind. Please note I'm only putting down stuff I've read, so I know there's glaring omissions.
Also taking the time to mention Watts alongside the likes of Clarke and Asimov but I really do think he's phenomenal author.

This is a only a first and now I've got the software and basis I can easily update it, so please ask if you want anything added. Faggots.

[Anonymous No.9439917]

>>9439908
Thanks anon. More charts are always appreciated :3

[Anonymous No.9439921]

Transhumanism/ Posthumanism
Telegram group

t.me/posthumanism

[Anonymous No.9439974]

>>9439748
>ARCs
Isn't the book coming out in July? Don't they give out ARCS like 6 months in advance?

[Anonymous No.9440023]

>>9439908
Not bad faggot. I'm more of a fantasy buff, and lazy as fuck so I don't think my autism is activated enough for me to spend 2 hours plus(from experience it's probably 3 plus hours) doing this.

~Chartanon

[Anonymous No.9440044]

>Tfw when you spoil people here with your ARC

Not sure if spoiling or hyping though

[Anonymous No.9440076]

>>9438813
Exactly, the anime is trash and that's why I'm comparing them.

[Anonymous No.9440140]

>>9439404
Man just wait. That shit is nowhere near over yet, it has lasting impacts on the rest of the series even up to the final book.

[Anonymous No.9440158]

>>9439460
There's also fun times ahead, you still haven't met two of the best characters who liven up the series a ton whenever they're around. Sort of like kruppe, though less grating.

[Anonymous No.9440271]

>>9439733
Fine by me.

Says the fantasy/sci-fi reader

[Anonymous No.9440338]

>>9438813
>he didn't watch it exclusively to watch slaine suffer

[Anonymous No.9440657]

>>9440158

Kruppe was the best toon in the series

[Anonymous No.9440908]

Book 1
>SHE SANG A REALLY SAD SONG AND THEN DIED SO NOW I NEED REVENGE
>When Darrow doesn't doesn't have any character flaws and absorbs all the knowledge in the world from a whole bunch of elite authors making him smarter than everyone
>Operation also makes him stronger than everyone
>Unironic Hunger Games parody as selfguided 'training'
>This is my rebellion
>Wow I fucking love your rebellion so I am now going to adopt you

Book 2:
>Falling from grace and some space opera plots
>Some interesting political finagling
>Several decent unexpected plot twists
Good.
>Kills off all the interesting characters
Oh boy I wonder what the next book is going to be ab-

Book 3:
>Villain is replaced with an unimpressive teenager faggot with daddy issues who wears human teeth around his neck and is now starting a teenager clique of regime supporters
>Roque kills himself to escape the shitty story
>The impending doom of everyone is solved with a phone call

[Anonymous No.9441022]

>>9440338
Suffering means nothing when the character, like the rest, is shit.

[Anonymous No.9441036]

>>9440908
I bet you enjoyed Buried Meme.
Faggot

[Anonymous No.9441077]

>>9435590
It seems like you're saying if they have any supernatural advantage at all, it's a cop out. I ask you, what exactly do you want from "demons"? It sounds like you just want to be a bestial but physically mundane inhuman race. I'd venture that those wouldn't really be demons, but some kind of ogre or goblin.

[Anonymous No.9441086]

Promise of Blood is the blandest damn thing. I'm on chapter 25 and I'm about to drop this.

[Anonymous No.9441112]

>>9441036
Plenty of people did. What's that got to do with RR?

[Anonymous No.9441547]

What's the Kino's Jouney o /lit/? I just read The Dying Earth and the short story of the people who wear red and the people who wear green who can't see each other but live in the same land reminded me of it. Do you guys know more stuff like this? Stories a foreign character entering a Twilight Zone-ish land with weird customs and people.
>inb4 Kino's Journey light novel

[Anonymous No.9441764]

>>9441547
What is that short story? It sounds like The City and The City

[Anonymous No.9441782]

Finished this the other day
AMA

[Anonymous No.9441787]

>>9441782
What did I think about it?

[Anonymous No.9442058]

>>9441782
Is it a slice of life type post apocalyptic novel? Or is there an actual plot, say getting humanity back on its' feet with the limited resources available?

[Anonymous No.9442062]

Why doesn't Castalia House do audiobooks?
Can't find anything for vox day. (Throne of bone)

[Anonymous No.9442078]

>>9441547
I remember that story, that's a good one. What you describe is also like the two Cugel Dying Earth Novels that are after that collection, where the protag rolls from one dangerous locale or strange town to the next on a quest to return home. What you want sounds like novels in the picaresque/travelogue tradition.

[Anonymous No.9442122]

>>9434474

When people get older they start to feel and understand their frailty. They want safety, security and comfort. They will sell out everything they believe and hold dear to get it.

[Anonymous No.9442128]

>>9442122

*and rationalize it as being mature and grown up

[Anonymous No.9442150]

>>9434802
Not really, he's pretty small-time compared to the really big international corporations

[Anonymous No.9442309]

>>9441547
Invisible Cities by Italo Calvino.

[Anonymous No.9442317]

fresh:

>>9442315
>>9442315
>>9442315
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[Anonymous No.9442618]

I'm looking for Laird Barron's Swift to Chase in epub/mobi

Can't seem to find it anywhere

Can anybody help?

[Anonymous No.9442791]

>>9441764
Ulan Dhor.
http://www.e-reading.club/chapter.php/73022/5/Vance_-_The_Dying_Earth.html