/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.9431090]

How can modern man go on in life without going insane?

[Anonymous No.9431094]

Drugs

[Anonymous No.9431109]

>>9431090
sprite and netflix

[Anonymous No.9431112]

>>9431090
Learn to laugh about it. Step back when ever you feel anxious and you'll see how silly it all is. That's not to say you can't find meaning, but that the journey to that meaning nowadays can take wacky turns.

[Anonymous No.9431116]

For one, it helps to hitch someone else's wagon to your own. The only way to feel useful in this world is to be the life boat to someone who has not quite managed to feel the futility and emptiness of it all yet.

Then again, I'm a heroin addict with no friends or family, so what do I know lol

[Anonymous No.9431126]

I meditate regularly which seems to help, better if you approach it from a "religious" standpoint too than a wank secular one.
>>9431112
This helps too, recognize that the world is inherently surreal and abstract and not to take things seriously
In this way I find Buddhism very fitting in the modern western world

[Anonymous No.9431519]

By not being a retard who thinks "everything was better way back when" and enjoying life.

[Anonymous No.9431538]

Nicomachean Ethics by Aristotle, and Encheiridion by Epictetus. Works for me.

[Anonymous No.9431552]

>>9431538
>>9431090
>virgins detected

It's not harder being alive today than in the past, fat "redpill" frog morons

[Anonymous No.9431572]

Do what all the "chads" do. Eternally attune your sensitivity down. Go through life full steam and act on instinct.
>>9431126
I read David Lynch's book Catching the Big Fish, it was essentially a 200 page shill for transcendental meditation. Do you do that, lessons only a thousand dollars (!), or some other kind?

[Anonymous No.9431585]

The same way we always have: by relying on God.

[Anonymous No.9431586]

>>9431552
>virgin
Ironically, married guys with kids are the ones that suffer the most.

[Anonymous No.9431593]

>>9431090
God, why would anyone choose to live in New York?

[Anonymous No.9431608]

>>9431593
new york rules. just avoid the tourist traps

[Anonymous No.9431619]

>>9431090
Who says he isn't insane?

[Anonymous No.9431649]

>>9431608
It's so ugly though. I'd hate to be surrounded by all of those enormous eyesores. I feel bad for the Londoners and Parisians who grew up without skyscrapers and then got older and saw their the beauty of their cities diminished as those hideous towers of commerce were erected.

[Anonymous No.9431650]

>>9431090
By not being a cowardly loser like you

[Anonymous No.9431660]

>>9431649
>saw their the beauty of their cities diminished
Yeah but that wasn't because of the skyscrapers, idiot.

[Anonymous No.9431681]

Fellowship with Christ.

[Anonymous No.9431689]

>>9431660
It's certainly one of the reasons.

[Anonymous No.9431764]

You need to "create" or "mold" yourself to an image of your ideal self and set out ways to achieve it.
Then you start progressing and start enjoying a new lifestyle where you give meaning to your life by constantly trying to become the ideal as an objective.

You also need to add some 'mysticism' into it though, having a fully materialistic cosmo-vision is both boring and a very ignorant/obtuse way to look at things, because you are ruling out all that is not inherently chemical/physical in your body and life. It's not necessarily believing in God either, but it can be Buddhism, taking Psychedelics, Magick or whatever.

I'd say you also need to face your demons, since I'd say that the post-modern social life has made it harder on us to always project our good side and the disconnection between both makes people more irritable and immature. It's generally knowing yourself to the point where you understand all your weakness and don't hide under insecurities. I'd say that's the easiest step for most people on 4chan, since they have a lot of time for themselves so they should be able to at least notice when they react badly to something and follow the process to understand why.

Finally, have at least a semi-healthy lifestyle. It's not about powerlifting every day and trying to become the narcissistic /fit/ type, but at least eating well, quitting hard drugs and going out often enough.

[Anonymous No.9431791]

>>9431109
>sprite and netflix
that will make you go insane after a while as well.
>>9431552
Then
>How can man go in life without going insane?

[Anonymous No.9431792]

>>9431090
sane is overrated. become a schizoanalysts.

[Anonymous No.9431816]

>>9431764
How to be disappointed with life 101. You sound like you're young, I pity you.

[Anonymous No.9431821]

>>9431090
Heavy weightlifting

[Anonymous No.9431842]

>>9431816
You forgot the "psh nothing personel kid"

But for real, it's quite the opposite of that, I've had depression for years and seen everything as inherently materialistic, trying to fix the world without fixing my issues first. Just now I've quite understood how to ground myself and have an objective for life.

[Anonymous No.9431847]

>>9431842
depression and an existential crisis are two different things.

[Anonymous No.9431871]

>>9431847
Yeah, taking meds is a difference I guess.

[Anonymous No.9431901]

>>9431552
>fat
Projection

[Anonymous No.9431909]

>>9431090
just drink a pepsi you bigot xDDD

[Anonymous No.9431920]

It helps to have goals. The more concrete the better. And when all else fails, there's always alcohol.

[Anonymous No.9431941]

Because we'd be living lives which had nothing of importance in them, and would have been entirely empty and like the life of an amoeba if not for suffering.

[Anonymous No.9431943]

>>9431090
I found more dignity in going mad.

[Anonymous No.9431952]

>>9431943
Mein Sohn

[Anonymous No.9431962]

>>9431090
tear it down.
for real
in a society that has abolished all adventures, the only adventure left is to abolish itself

[Anonymous No.9431966]

>>9431090
What exactly don't you like about modern life?

[Anonymous No.9431993]

>>9431962
Jesus fucking christ, whoever made that should be shot, but not fatally.

[Anonymous No.9431995]

maybe just get rid of yourself
https://vimeo.com/25952876

[Anonymous No.9432037]

>>9431993
Explain why.

[Anonymous No.9432038]

>>9431962
or if you are not yet ready for it
at least censor yourself pitiless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF2q8KnIpRk

[Anonymous No.9432051]

>>9431993
>>9432037
i sure didnt do it. but i reposted it for giggles. he probably doesn't like it because it posits lanza right next to someone highly regarded. however if you like lanza you will love travis the chimp.
https://soundcloud.com/nydailynews/sandy-hook-shooter-adam-lanza

[Anonymous No.9432056]

>>9431538
I see stoicism as pretty flawed for the same reasons nietzsche pointed out. But man do I like me some aristotelian ethics. Have a (You)

[Anonymous No.9432063]

Realizing that there is no such thing as insanity or even mental illness

[Anonymous No.9432072]

>>9431764
If you look at the world from a rigorous epistemological perspective, how can you escape a materialistic understanding of the universe and get to something mystic?
>inb4 leap of faith

I read evola for a while but this was thw6 issue I couldn't overcome. A system of thought has to be grounded in reality, otherwise it's fragile. You can invent an awesome cosmology, but it'll shatter before long unless properly grounded.

I agree with the rest of what you said.

[Anonymous No.9432098]

>>9432037
>placing literary greats next to the likes of Elliot Rodger and other random r9k retards
it should be apparent why

the shot shouldn't be fatal so that they may continue to live their life, the truest punishment of all

[Anonymous No.9432113]

Don't overthink life. Find your vices and let them distract you from the reality of consciousness.

[Anonymous No.9432534]

We are all... Insane... In the membrane...

[Anonymous No.9432554]

>>9431090
I know this feeling all too well. I can't stand modern life or society, and nothing depresses me more than the idea of a " normal " life here.

Only thing I've found that helps is to gain purpose. I've found my purpose in leaving Canada for good and moving to Eastern Europe. So I'm currently working backbreaking physical labour to save up enough to make a safe move. If everything goes according to plan in 2 years I'll be in Europe working an unconventional job supporting myself and travelling the world for months at a time. After I actually make it to Europe my goal will change to seeing as much of the world as I can, once that bores me I imagine I'll change gears to working towards a little hermitage in the woods of Eastern Europe where I can live the rest of my days in peace away from society and people, my only companion being my faithful hound and solitude.

[Anonymous No.9432564]

>>9431116
I feel bad for you..

[Anonymous No.9432608]

>>9431090
Wanting has to go. Wanting to be free from something that is not there is what you call "sorrow.” Wanting to be free from sorrow is sorrow. There is no other sorrow. You don't want to be free from sorrow. You just think about sorrow, without acting. Your thinking endlessly about being free from sorrow is only more material for sorrow. Thinking does not put an end to sorrow. Sorrow is there for you as long as you think. There is actually no sorrow there to be free from. Thinking about and struggling against "sorrow" is sorrow. Since you can't stop thinking, and thinking is sorrow, you will always suffer. There is no way out, no escape.

[Anonymous No.9432863]

Read this book. You need to unite with others against our destructive society.

[Anonymous No.9432910]

I think I survived by compartmentalizing my empathy for so long it disappeared. I remember I used to care very much about suffering, but I cannot remember why.

[Anonymous No.9432916]

>>9431112
The issue is that the world is usually interested in goading us into taking it seriously. Not just the elite, but the people who subscribe to the schema of life they espouse. Good company goes a long way; otherwise, the absurdity just isolates you.

[Anonymous No.9432930]

>>9431791
>>sprite and netflix
>that will make you go insane after a while as well.

wrong.

[Anonymous No.9432935]

>>9431847
the latter is the most common cause of the former in the modern world

[Anonymous No.9433019]

>>9431090
You have tons of books, papers, television shows, movies, games etc. at your fingertips in the modern world. The main thing that is unfortunate is that we don't get enough free time to enjoy it all. if I was rich I would just buy a beach house somewhere nice and read all day. I've never understood this infatuation with "meaning" in life. Some people are just butthurt I guess. Could they even envision a meaningful life?

[Anonymous No.9433111]

>>9431090
SSRI, lamotrigine, benzos, being born with good genetics and rich family, etc.

[Anonymous No.9433119]

>>9431585
lol what a cuck

[Anonymous No.9433152]

>>9432935
no it isn't. physiological or clinical depression is still the number one diagnosis in the western world.

[Anonymous No.9433155]

>>9432038
>This video is unavailable

[Anonymous No.9433158]

>>9431962
Hmmm, I wonder if taking meds would had prevented most of those guys from creating their art.

[Anonymous No.9433207]

>>9431090
By fighting back. Do small little acts of violence whenever possible. Always make sure it wont lead back to you and then cause the maximum damage that has the acceptable risk level of not getting caught. Focus on long term projects against your worst enemies and opportunistic possibilities with chance encounters of people that need suppression. The little things go along way. Putting nails in your ex's driveway, starting fires against bad businesses. Dumping buckets of paint into expensive cars with the windows down. Then just escalate, slowly working up to the murder of the man who raped you as a boy.

[Anonymous No.9433256]

>>9433207
Also super glue giant black dildos to he hoods of peoples cars is hilarious and buys me a few weeks of happiness.

[Anonymous No.9433512]

Sane and insane is insignificant. All that matters is survival

[Anonymous No.9433517]

>>9431090
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.9433520]

>>9431572
Not op but I do tm, takes 20 mins and feel much more energized afterwards. 900 bucks yea

[Anonymous No.9433846]

>>9432072
>rigorous epistemological perspective
which can lead nowhere but solipsism. you do understand materialism is itself a metaphysical stance, right.

[Anonymous No.9433894]

>>9432072
Materialism is fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.9433939]

>>9431608
>new york rules
It really doesn't

[Anonymous No.9433945]

>>9431842
>trying to fix the world without fixing my issues first
The world can't be fixed and neither can your issues. You don't fix them. You either learn to deal with them or you off yourself. That's how depression works.

[Anonymous No.9433967]

>>9431593
i had the best 6 years of my life in NYC

>>9431649
then live in brooklyn.

>>9433939
kek

[Anonymous No.9434027]

>>9431090

stop constantly trying to find meaning. Don't be consistent.

[Anonymous No.9434034]

>>9431090

[Anonymous No.9434039]

>>9431572
no I just do it at home and nothing like transcendental wank shit is more for emptying your mind I imagine

I don't empty my mind or use a mantra, I just let ideas pass like birds on the horizon without focusing on them
I actually started meditation after reading Francis Loyola's text on Christian spiritualism.

[Anonymous No.9435140]

>>9431094
Underrated post

[Anonymous No.9435142]

>>9431090
get laid desu senpai

[Anonymous No.9435147]

>>9431090
Stoicism or some version of it works for many.

[Anonymous No.9435155]

>>9431585
this guy gets it

[Anonymous No.9435161]

>>9431090
/lit/ - literature
fuck off with your irksome whining

[Anonymous No.9435162]

>>9431681
true

[Anonymous No.9435214]

>>9435161
> irksome whining

This is all that's holding /lit/ together

[Anonymous No.9435288]

>>9432608
see your sorrow face to face and then you'll be free.

[Anonymous No.9435333]

>>9432056

Freddy's critique of Stoicism was ill-informed and extremely poorly argued. It's quite possibly the least convincing thing he's written. I'm not a Stoic btw, just calling it out for what it is.

[Anonymous No.9435440]

>>9435333
Do you have any arguments for that?

[Anonymous No.9435512]

>>9431962
what a bunch of losers

[Anonymous No.9435631]

>>9431821
this

[Anonymous No.9435962]

>>9431909
I unironically do this. I feel the sugary potion of neoliberalism slide down my dry throat and I look at the bepis and say WOW, they put neoliberalistic dreams in a can. I always drink from the can.

[Anonymous No.9435975]

>>9431090
A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, "You are mad; you are not like us."

The vast majority of people are psychopaths. The contemporary society is a nightmare.

[Anonymous No.9435978]

Who the fuck actually walks through Times Square?

[Anonymous No.9436755]

>>9431090
Escapism

[Anonymous No.9437172]

>>9432564
I don't think about you at all.

[Anonymous No.9437282]

>>9431090
Read Ecclesiastes.

[Anonymous No.9437482]

Have enough distractions so you never realize how miserable you are... If that doesn't work then embrace the absurd and accept lunacy for what it is: a different way of thinking

[Anonymous No.9437539]

>>9431519
Yup. The world has always been fucked up, people have always been retarded - but life is easier now that it has ever been.
Modern humans have been around roughly 250,000 years. Only 6,000 of those have we had written word, only 150 have we had combustion engines, only 25 have we had vidya and tendies. I think we should all be a little FUCKING grateful for our vidya and tendies.

[Anonymous No.9437647]

>>9432910
Me too, I used to hurt so much, thinking about suffering, both mine and others, until one day I didn't want to think anymore (or more specifically, feel anymore). And now, I don't experience many emotions throughout my days, I guess it's a good thing not being depressed but I no longer feel the positives such as excitement and motivation either. So life has become very boring without emotions.

I honestly don't know which is better.

[Anonymous No.9438604]

>>9431090

Nootropics, Meditation, Healthy diet, Exercise and fucking drugs.

Start with the classics

>Selegiline
>Tianeptine
>Fish Oil
>Galantamine (or Huperzine A)
>Piracetam (any racetam, or even Noopept)
>Bacopa Monneri
>Lion's Mane
>L-Theanine (Green tea)
>Vitamin B complex


All you fucking need, for attention, motivation, neuro-protection and neural growth factor increases to make sure you stay at max. If this doesn't work for you, consider micro dosing LSD.

[Anonymous No.9438615]

>>9438604

I forgot to remind you all that none of this is going to work long term if you don't do what humans have done to have meaning in life since the beginning of civilization.


>Acquire and master a skill that you can use to give back to your community
>Be social
>Acquire a partner
>Form a family you can support


It sucks, but you have to settle down at some point. We are not going to find meaning in the stars, we are creatures of Earth.

[Anonymous No.9438661]

>>9438615
>We are not going to find meaning in the stars, we are creatures of Earth.

>Dont think about stars goyim, we have everything you want and need in our banks.

Nice try (((anon))). We will leave Earth and your millennia old economic cartel will loose control of human future growth. Your stranglehold of progress will end and we will conquer every planet and slaughter everyone we find there. We will find meaning again in biological growth and diversification. The most primordial meaning to life will again be realized.

[Anonymous No.9438665]

Olympic weightlifting.

[Anonymous No.9438668]

>>9438661
> manages to make this about the jews
> thinks the jews won't own space

I don't know which of your crimes is the greater.

[Anonymous No.9438677]

>>9438661

That's not what I meant. I was trying to state that true meaning and contentment for life (not happiness) can only be properly sustain by doing what humans are meant to do. Getting a profession & forming a family are the most reliable ways to not be a complete sad soul. That does not mean you should not have passions and an inquisitive mind.
Also, this Anon is right. >>9438668
Jews are the master race, therefore they'll always rise above gentiles.

[Anonymous No.9438779]

>>9431090
we all become equally insane at the same rate as everyone else in our age group that the flaccid personality that we all develop no longer is a side effect of our society but a natural fact of life.

[Anonymous No.9438781]

>>9438615
step outside of of my fucking sunlight, if there is no joy in life ill find a reason let it be a dumb one

[Anonymous No.9438791]

>>9438781

That's how you end up being a resentful 40 year old that dresses up in furry suits and drinks alcohol to quench the sorrow. Part of growing up into adulthood comes with accepting your role in society, no matter how much it hurts. Truth be told, I hate the idea as much as you, if not more. But I am willing to see past my ego.

[Anonymous No.9438799]

>>9431681
Nah I have a waifu. She serves the same role in my life.

[Anonymous No.9438957]

>>9438799
>Putting a wife on such a high pedestal.

I have an ok wife. I have met some that are much better than mine. But now human woman should be relied upon to provide anything close to the comfort and guidance of Christ. I'm not even Christian and I think Jesus Christ's Philosophy is super comfy and helpful in everyday life. My wife is not helpful alot of the time.

Your wife may be awesome but she isn't Jesus H.R.R. Christ. If she is, you got a great deal on a long term fuck buddy.

[Anomynous No.9440574]

>>9431094
This
Something like 1/3 of americans are on SSRIs alone and lets not forget how many americans drink and smoke pot

[Anonymous No.9440610]

>>9431090
enjoy the little things

[Anonymous No.9440618]

>>9435333
>I know more about Stoicism than a classical philology professor who read the Stoic philosophers in the original Greek/Latin