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9422075 No.9422075[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Are black people too stupid to write good books?

>> No.9422078

>>9422075
Things Fall Apart by chinua Achebe

>> No.9422080

>>9422075
nope, more than enough smart ones that are just smart enough. conscientiousness directed towards such pursuits is more of a problem than the lack of intelligence.

>> No.9422081

>>9421779

>> No.9422134

>>9422078
Yeah but that is like 5th grade level.
I enjoyed it then but i propably wouldn't as much now...

>> No.9422141

>>9422075
no

>> No.9422463

>>9422075
yes

>> No.9422499
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9422499

WE WUZ POETS N SHIET COMRADE

>> No.9422504
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>>9422075
Plato was black

>> No.9422531

>>9422078
lol garbage

>> No.9422550

M8 have you not heard of Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison?

>> No.9422554

99.99999999% of them are, as opposed to only 99.99999% of whites

>> No.9422567

>>9422075
No, they just haven't been involved in any movement.

>> No.9422569

>>9422134
So is Portrait of a Young Man and The Old Man and the Sea (which is a fucking awful book in which Hemmingway pretty much just mimes himself like a circus ape), but does this detract from the quality of those books?

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9422574

>mfw

>> No.9422575

>>9422075
Are white people too stupid to be anything but sociopaths?

>> No.9422581

>>9422567
They had the Harlem Renaissance.


Critique it all you like but it was one of the last few genuine literary movements in this country

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9422586

BLACKED

>> No.9422591

>>9422075
alexandre dumas was pretty gud.

>> No.9422594

>>9422581
Civil rights movement and the gay rights movement both came with some good literature.

What are the other movements you're referring to with
>last few genuine literary movements in this country?

I'm only thinking of Post-war minimalism and Beat Gen, but those two kind of get tangled up

>> No.9422595

>>9422575
At least you tried.

>> No.9422606

>>9422594
I was refering to Beat Gen and I suppose the New Age movement to be fair despite it all being garbage

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>>9422075
Was St. Augustine stupid?

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/thread

>> No.9423051

>>9422075
They don't need to.

>> No.9423054

>>9422569
all three of these books are average/middling books

old man and the sea is hemingway at his most vapid and self absorbed outside of his juvenalia

portrait is easily joyce's worst major work

the difference is joyce and hemingway had previously written/went on to write masterpieces, whereas achebe's works stayed more or less at the tepid level of things fall apart (no longer at ease, etc., are more or less the same. his african language stuff is even worse)

>> No.9423057

>>9423015
Carson is honorary white

>> No.9423126

>>9422617
No, because he was a Romanized Berber who lived prior to the Muslim conquest of North Africa and was not a black person.

>> No.9423141

>>9423126
He was a black person.
the culture he adapted to does not have any place in this dialogue, since what is being questioned here are the characteristic of his race in itself. If, in your opinion, black people can adapt to different, more advanced cultures, then you're not putting the blame on their phenotypic expression (the colour of his skin, his bone structure, etc.), but their culture itself (which is a far more moserate stance)

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>>9423141
Berbers ain't black, son

>> No.9423166

Yes, there is a significant lack of African-American literature, but that doesn't matter because the novel is dead anyway. They are much more adept at writing poetry (refer to this past decade of hip-hop/rap)

>> No.9423188

>>9423166
>muh niggaz be like
>muh bitchez be like
>muh moniez be like
Is this the endgame of poetry?

>> No.9423196

>>9423188
What a gross overgeneralization.