Nabokov was a pedophile. Tolstoy was a slave rapist. i need a third beloved author with an obviously checkered past. pic related: Vlad "The child Nabber" Nabokov

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Anonymous Sat Apr 15 18:55:46 2017 No.9385414 [Reply] [Original]

Nabokov was a pedophile.

Tolstoy was a slave rapist.

i need a third beloved author with an obviously checkered past.

pic related: Vlad "The child Nabber" Nabokov

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 19:06:00 2017 No.9385457 william burroughs was a pedo too...and he shot his wife in her head for a laff. oscar wylde was also a nonce.....wylde introduced André Gide to underageb& rentboys

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 19:07:49 2017 No.9385464 File: 26 KB, 197x240, d26c212bccdf86d87c033bea5130c3a8[1].gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >wifebeater.....drove two wives to suicide >wrote bad poems about crows and whatnot

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 19:09:18 2017 No.9385470 Post source for Tolstoy. While you're at it post evidence of Nabokov as well my lad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 19:09:46 2017 No.9385472 >>9385457 >burroughs one and done

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 19:12:50 2017 No.9385481 File: 15 KB, 460x276, James-Ellroy-002[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >peeping tom >broke into houses to steal women's panties >slightly racist

Anonymous Sat Apr 15 19:20:44 2017 No.9385498

>>9385470
find it yourself. i'm not here to hold your hand.
>>9385457
burroughs is a little too obvious.
so is nabokov, but it's more necessary because people vehemently insist to the contrary.
i don't think anyone would doubt burrough's infamies.
wilde, yeah, i mean, we already have a pedo, we need someone who likes to fuck animals. did faulkner do that? hemingway?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 19:23:01 2017 No.9385505 >>9385481 literally who? i said beloved.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 19:42:39 2017 No.9385557 Gogol was a manlet and slavophile. There you go.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 19:47:18 2017 No.9385565 >>9385457 fact: 98.7% of all gays are pedos

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 19:54:14 2017 No.9385585 >>9385498 You're the one claiming if im not here to back up your arguments

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 19:54:15 2017 No.9385586 >>9385557 hey, gogol was great. don't you be rude.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 19:56:01 2017 No.9385595 >>9385585 huh? you're not here to back up my arguments. believe what you want, man. if you want tomdo research, do it. i have no time or conviction to discuss how much of a pedophile nabokov was, or how often tolstoy raped and molested his serfs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:00:54 2017 No.9385609 >>9385586 He was an antisemite

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:01:52 2017 No.9385612 >>9385609 As is every thinking man

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:01:58 2017 No.9385613 >>9385609 you say that like it's a bad thing, or even somehow remotely close to slave rapery and child molestation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:03:36 2017 No.9385618 >>9385498 I think Faulkner fucked a fish

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:04:32 2017 No.9385620 Lovecraft was really racist i guess

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:06:29 2017 No.9385626 Hemingway was a communist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:07:16 2017 No.9385632 >>9385618 there we go, any bits of his literature or historical rumors to assist in propagating this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:10:12 2017 No.9385638 File: 2.79 MB, 375x476, 1456206871706.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9385626 As is every thinking man

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:11:11 2017 No.9385641 File: 299 KB, 1091x1500, IMG_0083.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9385638

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:13:04 2017 No.9385647 >>9385632 The "my mother is a fish" chapter from "as I lay dying" all but confirms it

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:13:39 2017 No.9385650 File: 47 KB, 267x400, da.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9385641

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:14:32 2017 No.9385654 >>9385647 so not only is he a fishlover, he's an oedipal fishlover?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:14:58 2017 No.9385655 >>9385498 >find it yourself. i'm not here to hold your hand. thats because you're full of shit, faggot saged

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:15:21 2017 No.9385656 Didn't sartre watch simone de beauvoir fuck other men?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:16:00 2017 No.9385658 >>9385655 >some grumpy lil bitch can't operate google no skin off my dick, champ.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:16:40 2017 No.9385662 File: 62 KB, 743x1024, 1481085456684.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9385654 Exactly

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:17:03 2017 No.9385663 >>9385656 cuckolds aren't really a negative in literature, cuckoldry inspires the greatest literature in existence.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:18:17 2017 No.9385664 >>9385663 I assure you that cuckoldery has NOTHING to do with Lord of the rings

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:18:47 2017 No.9385666 >>9385662 man, i like you. you play ball. so, faulkner nabokov and tolstoy. seems disappointing it isn't another russian to really stick a splinter in the eyes of their plebeian fans.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:18:48 2017 No.9385667 >>9385658 >telling me to cite your imaginary sources for you your proof just doesn't exist, you're retarded, stick to harry potter kiddo saged

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:20:03 2017 No.9385672 >>9385664 >lotr need i even say it, friend? >>9385667 >whinging mite still babbling for the pap of his cropse mummy sage all you like, pissant.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:20:54 2017 No.9385675 >>9385664 >Rosie was faithful while Sam was carrying Frodos load She was definitely ORC'D during the occupation

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:21:31 2017 No.9385678 >>9385672 >whinging >babbling >pap >>>https://www.reddit.com/r/iamverysmart/ saged

Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:23:24 2017 No.9385686

>>9385664
thinking on it, the ring is a metaphor for sauron's wife, so many fingers in that thing, and nothing sauron wants more is to have it back, but can't help having an eye constantly peeled whenever his "wife" is worn by men, hobbits, elves, gollum, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:24:53 2017 No.9385695 >>9385675 You don't respect women......do you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:26:20 2017 No.9385703 >>9385695 its literally in the book

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:26:59 2017 No.9385705 File: 25 KB, 343x343, IMG_0054.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9385678 >he just can't stop whining

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:29:40 2017 No.9385710 >>9385705 >whinging ftfy also we all know you're just replying as an excuse to bump your shit thread saged

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:34:48 2017 No.9385725 >>9385695 >The plumpy nice guy has been gone for years >Muscular orcs have taken control over the neighborhood >Maybe no-one would notice... I could say they took me forcefully You have to read between the lines

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:35:43 2017 No.9385729 >>9385710 >whinging i used that word already. i used whining the second time to add some flavor by variance. >replying to bump my own thread and you're assisting me. quit being such a kvetching faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:37:17 2017 No.9385735 File: 33 KB, 600x750, IMG_0011.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] so anyway, who are the other villians of literature?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:39:52 2017 No.9385743 >>9385729 actually, im already bumping the threads below yours so it cancels out by a factor of 2. youll thread will die pretty soon anyways. i dont speak nazi btw saged

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:42:25 2017 No.9385752 >>9385414 Me, as richly illustrated in my diary desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:43:18 2017 No.9385755 Fairly sure Pynchon is a serial pig rapist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:46:27 2017 No.9385764 >>9385752 >beloved

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:47:29 2017 No.9385768 >>9385755 Pynchon was the unabomber. Kaczynski was a patsy

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:49:09 2017 No.9385773 >>9385768 >>9385755 dude, what a spin. but it can't be pynchon, he's far too involved in a /lit/ trilogy to be included in this one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:50:09 2017 No.9385775 Proust masturbated to dying mice or something

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:51:32 2017 No.9385776 >>9385775 animal torture is pretty good. and just rumored enough to work. "Proust fucked rats with pins stuck in them" ought to do.

Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:53:03 2017 No.9385781
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>>9385414
Dude was redpilled af. During the occupation of Paris, even the nazis avoided Celine because he just wouldn't shut up about the Jews. When the Reich finally collapsed Celine blamed it on Hitler being a crypto jew sent to destroy the aryan race from within

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:54:08 2017 No.9385783 Thomas Mann

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:55:08 2017 No.9385784 >>9385783 thomas mann was one of the butterfly pedos of the literary tradition. same with ol' Nabby.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 20:56:19 2017 No.9385789 >>9385781 waitin to hear the villiany here.

Anonymous Sat Apr 15 21:06:37 2017 No.9385822
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>>9385789
>wrote in his diaries about wanting to fuck his son, Klaus:
"Klaus to whom recently I feel very drawn" (June 22). In the background conversations about man-to-man eroticism take place; a long letter is written to Carl Maria Weber on this topic, while the diary reveals: "In love with Klaus during these days" (June 5). "Eissi, who enchants me right now" (July 11). "Delight over Eissi, who in his bath is terribly handsome. Find it very natural that I am in love with my son ... Eissi lay reading in bed with his brown torso naked, which disconcerted me" (July 25). "I heard noise in the boys' room and surprised Eissi completely naked in front of Golo's bed acting foolish. Strong impression of his premasculine, gleaming body. Disquiet" (October 17, 1920).
>three of his children, Klaus, Golo and Erika turned out gay
>Thomas' wife probably fucked her brother
>Erika and Klaus probably fucked too
>Klaus and Michael both killed themselves
>wrote a book based on his real experience stalking a Polish shota around Venice
>"Instead, searching for secret elements in his fiction, Maar insisted that one theme impelled and nourished Mann’s imagination more than any other. He found image after image from the beginning to the end of his work of murder, blood, knives and sexual pleasure. He suggested that this was the key to Mann’s work and perhaps to his life. ‘We can venture,’ he wrote, ‘the thought experiment that if Thomas Mann had committed an actual crime and sought to give an account of it in his work, the work would not have taken a different form than it actually has.’ He suggests – almost convincingly – that in Naples, in the mid-1890s, when he was a very young man, Thomas Mann did something, or witnessed something, or was closely implicated in something that involved sex and murder. And that what he did, or what he witnessed, both maimed and energised him and made its way into the work of sixty years."

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 21:10:58 2017 No.9385833 >>9385822 i meant celine, no i agree that mann was a monster. but nabokov acts as a placeholder for the broad pedophilic tradition in literature especially the butterfly club of which both are members.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 21:15:08 2017 No.9385837 >>9385822 I guess that's just how it is in Europe, who am I to judge?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 21:18:17 2017 No.9385844 >>9385837 of course that's how it is, a rich tradition of academics and elites raping children.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 21:22:08 2017 No.9385851 >>9385414 Is it just the one autist that keeps repeating the Tolstoy was a rapist thing? What is your endgame?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 21:27:08 2017 No.9385865 >>9385851 well, he was a rapist. actually, at least one person other than myself i know for a fact posted "Tolstoy was a rapist" more or less. my endgame is people knowing that tolstoy was a rapist.

Anonymous Sat Apr 15 21:46:50 2017 No.9385921

http://thisrecording.com/today/2010/3/13/in-which-we-die-on-the-altar-of-leo-tolstoy.html

and an excerpt from his wife's diary on their wedding night,
“I could only hear … his breath, hasty, frequent, passionate. Conquered by his power and intensity, I was obedient and loving, although crushed by the agonising physical pain and unbearable humiliation. And again, again, all night, the same attempts, the same sufferings.”

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 21:53:07 2017 No.9385939 >>9385609 wtf this made me think. guess i'm an antisemite missile now

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 23:09:34 2017 No.9386161 >>9385595 Then why make the claim, dumbass

Anonymous Sat Apr 15 23:11:40 2017 No.9386163
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Vlad "The Impaler" Nabokov was one of the greatest pedophiles to grace the earth. he did more to normalize and open the doors for pedophile entry into mainstream culture than any other man in modern history.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 23:20:28 2017 No.9386179 Chekhov once fucked and then ate a small leopard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 15 23:21:55 2017 No.9386184 >>9386179 bah, too easy. chekhov stole a baby and drowned it in a vat of sulfuric acid, but you don't see him writing anything interesting about it, okay? who gives a fuck about chekhov? he's mute point.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 00:33:39 2017 No.9386331 Nabokov is a cunt. Tolstoy has good riting, but if he's a rapist, I won't read his trash.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 00:43:01 2017 No.9386344 Looking down on someone for raping their slave during that era is just wrong. Slaves back then were thought of similarly to pets are today, it's just a generational thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 00:45:46 2017 No.9386352 File: 370 KB, 600x600, 361.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9386344 >it's okay to rape your pet parrot because russians used to rape their slaves in the 1800s boy howdy friend.

Anonymous Sun Apr 16 01:12:16 2017 No.9386421
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>>9386344
if only Tolstoy weren't a highly respected moralist that professed to hold divine truths and wrote at length on how to live in a meaningful and proper relationship. rape is rape, especially with someone who should know better. unless, of course, you were to say that Tolstoy were infinitely morally inferior and thus could never be a source of relevant moral guidance!

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 02:04:57 2017 No.9386532 Op was a fag

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 02:43:45 2017 No.9386606 >>9385414 so yall have any sources to back these claims up? that would be great.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 04:07:47 2017 No.9386730 >>9385565 it's all men, really, just women are naturally infantile so you don't notice it as much. we need to do away with the male sex drive by forcibly feminizing everyone

Anonymous Sun Apr 16 13:06:11 2017 No.9388120
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>>9386532
no u.

>>9386606
you wouldn't take evidence if it were on a dragon dildo being shoved up your ass.

>>9386730
you might justify your might justify tendencies by relegating all men to that level, but itmonly makes it clear that you have problems you must deal with.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 13:12:31 2017 No.9388148 I can understand denying that Nabokov was a pedo if you have only read Lolita, but if you read the rest of his oeuvre it becomes extremely obvious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 13:34:35 2017 No.9388224 https://cyber.sci-hub.cc/MTAuMjMwNy80MDc1NDk0NA==/10.2307@40754944.pdf an interesting study. god i love sci.hub really useful formstudents i would imagine, maybe not for citation permissions, but...

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 14:36:09 2017 No.9388452 >>9388224 seriously, you guys should read this, anyone with any interest in Nabokov regardless of your judgements on his character, the way he enjoys making puzzles in everything he does is quite interesting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 14:45:30 2017 No.9388494 >>9388224 cool thx

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 19:14:38 2017 No.9389591 daily reminder that nabokov was raped by his uncle and loved to dissect young butterflies' sexual organs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 20:08:42 2017 No.9389781 >>9385414 >>9388120 go trip over a knife

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 20:11:18 2017 No.9389788 >>9389781 trip over a knife? don't you mean trip onto a knife? if i tripped over it, i'd just fall and hurt myself. fucking morons, i swear.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 20:19:43 2017 No.9389823 >>9389788 >i

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 20:21:42 2017 No.9389828 File: 39 KB, 398x500, IMG_0027.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9389823 ha! you certainly rustled my jimmies, my good man.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 20:28:16 2017 No.9389850 >>9385498 Garden of Eden has some strong hints towards femdom. I think Papa liked to get pegged.

Anonymous Sun Apr 16 20:29:49 2017 No.9389855

>>9385414
I know someone who gave away, among other things, his copy of Lolita. The other stuff was weeb garbage and makes sense. But Lolita? I have suspicions his significant other disaproves of the book and convinced him to ditch it, which maddens me somehow.

Or perhaps I'm in the wrong and it actually is a bad showcase?

t. someone who reads it as an erotica fantasy

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 20:31:48 2017 No.9389859 >>9389855 ok.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 20:35:26 2017 No.9389874 Simone groomed young girls she taught for Satre to have sex with and Im fairly sure DFW did some real dodgy stuff to students when he was a professor

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 21:32:11 2017 No.9390121 >>9385414 Lovecraft was a horrible racist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 21:35:17 2017 No.9390132 >>9390121 find me an animal fucker and we'll talk. proust is currently the chosen third.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 21:36:59 2017 No.9390137 >>9390121 No, Lovecraft was an excellent racist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 21:38:39 2017 No.9390144 OP, your thread would have been better without your contributions to it. just fyi

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 21:40:29 2017 No.9390152 >>9390144 >fyi people who use this term are massive faggots, therefore one can conclude...

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 21:43:42 2017 No.9390163 >>9385609 wtf i love gogol now

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 16 21:54:52 2017 No.9390210 >>9385833 Can i get links on this "butterfly club" i'm possibly retarded since i can't find info on this :(

Anonymous Mon Apr 17 00:02:01 2017 No.9390672
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>>9390210
oh, it's just a suspicion of mine, considering that butterflies are still symbols for child molestation. regarding mann, he makes references to lepidoptery in doctor faustus, i'm sure he makes more elsewhere.

pic related.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 17 00:05:24 2017 No.9390682 op should read Mein Kampf

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 17 00:06:26 2017 No.9390684 >>9390682 mein kampf? far too obvious.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 17 00:54:35 2017 No.9390822 File: 27 KB, 244x662, IMG_0077.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] well, to ensure this thread meets one hundred posts, i shall push it over the edge myself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 17 01:28:38 2017 No.9390925 >>9385414 DeSade was a rapist but that's not exactly obscure info.

Anonymous Mon Apr 17 02:25:01 2017 No.9391076

>>9385656
No. He benefited the most from their "open marriage". (A code for just fucking around.)

She had a shot at Nelson Algren. He wrote that she should move to the US and have family. She replied that she should live an authentic life, or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 17 12:59:57 2017 No.9392718 >>9385505 Pleb

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