/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.9384083]

>begin learning French so I can understand French texts in the original
>realize I'm no better than a filthy weeb who learns Japanese just to watch his degenerate nip cartoons

Should I just end it all?

[Anonymous No.9384099]

Probably, but not for that reason.

What have you been reading?

[Anonymous No.9384101]

With similes like this - yes, yes you should.

[Anonymous No.9384106]

>learning the worst romance language
>also not learning latin first
Not gonna make it famperino

[Anonymous No.9384122]

>>9384106
>also not learning latin first

sed cur?

[Anonymous No.9384125]

>>9384099
Camus, Houellebecq, Yourcenar. I've got some Baudelaire coming in next week.
>>9384101
>simile
>>9384106
I already speak the best romance language (Spanish) though.

[Anonymous No.9384129]

>>9384106
Worst romance language is objectively continental Portuguese. Latin is objectively completely useless. You are objectively wrong and should objectively fuck off.

[Anonymous No.9384139]

>>9384083
What's wrong with learning a language because of a certain medium?
Should I not read english books because I'm not a native?

[Anonymous No.9384228]

>>9384129
>Portuguese
Do you even know Basic portuguese? Its beautiful

[Anonymous No.9384230]

>>9384083
>You shouldn't be allowed to learn foreign languages to enjoy entertainment because you're not a TR00 frog/jap/whatever
This is literally the same shit as "cultural appropriation", kys if you believe this.

[Anonymous No.9384236]

>>9384228
It's awful. It's basically Spanish with heavy Polish accent. Brazilian is nice though.

[Anonymous No.9384240]

all Brazilians have that tropical negro accent even if they are white

[Anonymous No.9384252]

french is literally the worst language I know of, and I know fucking Polish. It's in a absolute middle-ground that makes it unwieldy, boring and unaesthetic as hell.
It doesn't have the modularity of the German, Latin or Russian but is plagued by suffixation. It can't match the plasticity of the English language that would allow for novel yet understandable uses of words. It doesn't embrace vowels like Italian or Spanish do, instead relying on bland and uniform sounds.
The fact I was born and currently live around people who blabber endlessly in this pathetic excuse of a language makes me fight the urge to sew their mouths shut everyday. That's not even accounting for the fact that french literature and philosophy has always been a complete shitshow inexplicably graced by the likes of Maupassant or Baudelaire that were hampered by the very words they had to use. I wish their works had been originally written in any other language.
The only case I know of a decent prose using french is Fernand Braudel. It remains a mystery to me how an historian, as opposed to a writer, could somehow make a readable text in this insult to humanity that is the french language.

[Anonymous No.9384291]

>>9384252
You take that back

Historians are writers too

[Anonymous No.9384321]

>>9384252
You used the article a and an wrong on both ocasions

[Anonymous No.9384328]

>>9384321
I also used has for a plural subject.
I'm gonna get my Kukri and perform sudoku asap

[Anonymous No.9384336]

>>9384252
>he thinks that the only merit of Italian is that it "embraces vowels"

Absolute pleb

[Anonymous No.9384343]

>>9384252
>I know fucking Polish
>has the gall to call any other language unaesthetic
Why don't you go szrzdzczch yourself mate?

[Anonymous No.9384352]

>>9384252
>it's a "I know X because duolingo" contemplating linguistics episode

[Anonymous No.9384357]

>>9384236
Brazilian Portuguese is revolting, sounds so whiny.

>geeeeeeen-chee, que lay-gaaaaaaaaaw

[Anonymous No.9384381]

>>9384252
this desu

[Anonymous No.9384399]

>>9384357
>t. poortuguese
At the very least Brazilian doesn't have a billion sibilants and affricates in every word, so it doesn't sound like Mordor-tongue with heavy Slavic accent.

[Anonymous No.9384431]

>>9384129
>Latin is objectively useless

holy shit go away reddit I bet you think you're fucking smart and edgy but lazy

[Anonymous No.9384555]

>>9384399
Not Portuguese, but sadly living here with my Brazilian gf. I get the worst of both accents.

[Anonymous No.9384560]

>>9384122
quod lingua latina est meior

[Anonymous No.9384588]

>>9384083
one is literature and one is trash. theres a difference

[Anonymous No.9384599]

>>9384431
>reddit
>edgy
wew great arguments my mang. sure showed me.

[Anonymous No.9384925]

>>9384599
Not him, but dismissing latin as useless betrays a certain sort of careerist condescention in the vein of the "philosophy doesn't feed people!" remarks that one may find on reddit or similar websites.

[Anonymous No.9384949]

>>9384925
It doesn't. Even if you want to judge by the amount of great literary works which you would be able to enjoy in original, Latin wouldn't even make top ten. Holding it in high regard is a litmus test for pseudointellectualism.

[Anonymous No.9385021]

>>9384949
Seneca, Cesar, Juvenal, Peteonius, Cicero, Ovid, Virgil, Livy, Horace, Aurelius, Catullus, Lucretius, Tacitus, Cato (the elder and the younger), Plutarch, and Phaedrus all have some merit to them (just listing off the top of my head), and after classical latin reading latin vulgate requires no additional instruction and makes literature and historical records from the middle ages accessible to the reader. Besides, it isn't a particularly difficult language for native english speakers to learn.

[Anonymous No.9385181]

>>9384328
Don't :^(

[Anonymous No.9385238]

>>9384083
Move to France you'll be fluent in 6 months faggot

[Anonymous No.9385243]

>>9384252

[Anonymous No.9385315]

>have francophone swiss father
>learn french as a second language
>read and understand it np
>be 18
>go on a month trip alone to Nice
>excited, first time going south of the Baltic
>meet people, spend time with them
>get along with a great blond girl
>do bar crawl the second night, end up with passionate lovemaking with girl on the empty beach
>next evening another crawl, another night with girl
>repeat for a couple days, most fun I've ever had
>listening to their conversations I realize I don't have any clue how those wonderful written words are spelled out
>my attempts at intelligent conversation are incomprehensible and rambling
>we can't really talk about stuff we haven't already gone through 3 times
>day by day, my french starts to deteriorate
>spend days and nights sitting in the same bars and cafes
>drinking cheap vodka and coffee like a sponge
>lack of sleep and being constantly drunk starts to weigh in on second week
>forget basic vocabulary, start saying wrong things in wrong place
>accidentally have sex with another girl, argue with blonde over it
>don't know how to argue in french, no clue what language I was yelling
>none of the group I hung out with talk to me anymore
>still sit in the same places getting drunk as they are, now I just sit alone and they're in their group
>she seduces some random guy in front of me
>too numb with alcohol to react
>drink more and drink cheaper
>manage to angrily fuck some girls
>doesn't feel good at all
>wake up almost every morning on the beach, walk straight to cafe
>at this point I've become certain that I've never could've spoken french
>make murmuring noises and order stuff with my language
>stop answering people's looks
>I'm not allowed indoors after I lose my shoes, spend time on the terraces burning cigs and downing watery vodka
>the sun is fucking hot, burn my skin everywhere
>heat makes me feel continuously ill
>the group pass me by, they either don't recognize me or they pretend not to
>become an everyday stain on the street, observing people
>I understand what people say, but I can't respond to them anymore
>I know what they like, but I can't relate to their needs and wants anymore
>I understand what they feel, but I don't want to feel it anymore
>tfw alienated
>tfw nauseated
>return home with the worst hangover and can't remember half of the trip
>brought accidentally some of the girls panties along, gave them away as souvenirs
and that's my definitive France experience

[Anonymous No.9385322]

>>9385315
bizarre

[Anonymous No.9385337]

>>9385315
>6/10 didn't even kill an arab in the heat

[Anonymous No.9385372]

>>9385021
>he had to list literally everything with a shred of value to make it seem less pathetic
Face it - Latin is shit.

[Anonymous No.9385396]

>>9385337
the novel was set in algeria

[Anonymous No.9385409]

>>9385337
I should've just gone full Stranger on the arabs there. I was absolutely furious when the television showed me the tens of bodies on the very street I had wandered and sat on with a bottle in my hand. Even thought it's been years I really was angry and felt pain for the people of Nice last summer, fucking arabs should be expelled from France altogether

[Anonymous No.9385416]

>>9385396
>the novel was set in a french colony
WOAH REALLIE?
kys shiteating tard

[Anonymous No.9385437]

>>9385416
;(

[Anonymous No.9385454]

>>9385437
ok don't i was out of line you're not that bad

[Anonymous No.9385459]

>>9384588
Literature is trash, anon.

[Anonymous No.9385539]

>>9385372
Didn't list Diodorus.

[Anonymous No.9385543]

>>9385315
Anon lives through a french novel: the post

[Anonymous No.9385559]

>>9384083
>thinking one art is superior to another
probably

[Anonymous No.9385579]

>>9384083
>learning French
>not starting with the Greek(s)

[Anonymous No.9385709]

>>9384236
>It's basically Spanish with heavy Polish accent
Get out of my brain

[Anonymous No.9385744]

>>9385315
write a book

also what i really want to know is how you can fuck girls without talking to them

[Anonymous No.9385762]

>>9385744
>also what i really want to know is how you can fuck girls without talking to them
it's actually much easier that way desu

[Anonymous No.9385813]

>>9385322
absurd

[Anonymous No.9385831]

>>9385813
right

[Anonymous No.9385843]

i went into manhattan today and swear to god i heard more french than spanish, i'm like what the fuck is going, why are 80% of tourists french all of a sudden, this is weird

[Anonymous No.9385874]

>>9384083
Do what you like FOR FUCK SAKE why would you live your life by what losers on a website think is cool

[Anonymous No.9385887]

>>9385874
cuz desire is memetic, read some girard brah

[Anonymous No.9386654]

>realize I am not better than someone else investing more deeply into their personal hobbies in a way that can enrich many other areas of their life
>stop
How many layers of mental cuckoldry are you on right now my dude?

[Anonymous No.9386678]

>>9385813
radical

>>9385744
>write a book
I'm trying, but not of the trip
Also, just like the other guy said, sometimes it's easier not understanding each other, body language suffices for a sleazy foreigner wanting sex with local qt's

>>9385543
kek, I didn't really realize it before wrriting the post how much it was like one of those stories

[Anonymous No.9386694]

>>9384083

stop being so spooked and do what you want you nigger brainlet.

[Anonymous No.9386702]

>>9386654
>learning an extremely convoluted language of a xenophobic island nation solely to consume cartoons and pornography
>can enrich many other areas of their life
Back to /a/.

[Anonymous No.9386840]

>>9384357
This.

[Anonymous No.9386860]

>>9384291
Usually bad ones tho

[Anonymous No.9387219]

>>9386702

[Anonymous No.9387248]

>>9384083
>not learning Japanese so you can understand Japanese texts in the original

[Anonymous No.9387282]

French is the Old World language of nobility, de facto second language in upper classes thru the Anglo-Normans.

[Anonymous No.9387383]

>>9384252
/thread

[Anonymous No.9387401]

>>9384083
>implying there is anything wrong with learning Japanese to watch their superior cartoons in the first place
早く自殺しろ

[Anonymous No.9387416]

>>9384106
>worst romance language
How is French worse than Romanian?

[Anonymous No.9387419]

>>9387401
逝ってよし

[Anonymous No.9387426]

>>9387416
How is Romanian worse than French?

[Anonymous No.9387463]

>>9387282
Latin>Greek>English>French

Out of all the major Lingua Franca French was by far the worst.

>>9387401
>>9387419
Nice Squiggles you fat autists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2FGgYp6mdk

[Anonymous No.9389372]

>>9385315
thats pretty existential
How to have an /lit/ holiday in France?

[Anonymous No.9389715]

>>9387463
>if you are learning japanese you're a fat autistic weeb

[Anonymous No.9389776]

>>9387416
Să te fut în gât

[Anonymous No.9389787]

>>9387463
>that video

omg that is glorious

>who is that?
>meido-chan
>so a maid?
>yes
>do they have things like maids in america?
>ehh...

lol my fucking ass off, maybe if that fat faggot would turn off the cartoons and read something like Said's Orientalism he'd realize what a piece of shit he is, but then again he's a fat fucking pleb so he's not gonna do that is he

[Anonymous No.9389815]

>>9389787

Said was literally a fucking retard though

[Anonymous No.9389835]

>>9389815
try reading it some time faggot

[Anonymous No.9389903]

>>9385559
>thinking anime isn't inferior to literally everything

[Anonymous No.9389952]

>>9386702
Why is being xenophobic or consuming cartoons are bad things

[Anonymous No.9390869]

>>9389952
why is anything a bad thing

[Anonymous No.9391040]

>>9390869
See? You're learning.

[Anonymous No.9391238]

>>9387416
>>9387426
Objectively, French has more cultural relevance than Romanian. But this wankery of which romance language is better is useless. Just learn Ancient Greek and Latin (for the wankery) and then whichever romance language is more USEFUL to you.