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1 Enoch 48:1-10

>2 And in that hour that Son of Man was named In the presence of the Lord of Spirits, and his name, before the Head of Days.

>3 Even before the sun and the constellations were created, before the stars of heaven were made, His name was named before the Lord of Spirits.

>4 He will be a staff for the righteous, that they may lean on him and not fall; he will be the light of the nations, and he will be a hope for those who grieve in their hearts

>5 All who dwell on the earth will fall down and worship before him, and they will glorify and bless and sing hymns to the name of the Lord of Spirits

>6 For this reason he was chosen and hidden in His presence, before the world was created and forever.

A non-inspired text talking about a divine Son of Man who existed since creation? Written over 100 years before Jesus? Could this have possibly had any impact on the early followers of Jesus? Unlike what I've been told again and again that Jesus' followers couldn't have been influenced by other sources in their views of divinity and divine figures other than the Father? Is such a thing possible?

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>>9379832
Isn't the book of Enoch one of the oldest books in existence? It competes with Gilgamesh, iirc.

Some could speak of coincidences, but most such connections to Christ have disappeared in newer translations. The Ethiopian version is considered the most authentic, and it holds the most Christ references.

One can not understand the purpose of judaism without understanding Christianity. Especially the jews miss the point.

>> No.9379974

>>9379951
>Isn't the book of Enoch one of the oldest books in existence?
No, it's relatively recent for Jewish scripture. Oldest stuff is around 300 BC, with additions up until 100 BC I think. The traditional story, that the Ethiopian church believes, is that it's the oldest because Enoch himself wrote it, but that's obviously a myth.

>Some could speak of coincidences, but most such connections to Christ have disappeared in newer translations.
Not really, I'm quoting from the Hermeneia translation, which was published in 2012.

>> No.9380012

>>9379832
There were already myths of a promised savior of the world and the flesh becoming divine in the middle east before Jesus, he was the culmination of a long process of theogony.