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9363598 No.9363598 [Reply] [Original]

What's the best Marxist literature to read after digesting Capital?

>> No.9363608

Althusser tbḩ

>> No.9364362

>>9363598
Nothing

>> No.9364365

Nick Land

>> No.9364367

Commie spam should warrant an autoban.

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>> No.9364376

>>9363598
Take the redpill instead.

>> No.9364422

>>9364376
You should of already read Hegel.
I'd go with either Lenin's Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism, Gramsci's Prison Notebooks, or Althusser's For Marx.

>> No.9364427

Capitalism: Competition, Conflict, Crises by Anwar Shaikh

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>>9363598

>> No.9364431

Lukacs, Gramsci, Adorno and Benjamin. Castoriadis's worth reading too. Althusser is shite.

>> No.9364443

>>9364431
Agree with this aside from Benjamin. Be sure to read more Lukács than just History and Class Consciousness.

>> No.9364447

The maintenance checklist taped to the door of the military helicopter taking you for an impromptu skydiving lesson, sans parachute.

>> No.9364451

>>9364430
marx understood economics better than you ever will

maybe you should read that book, and then some smith, and then go on to marx

kektastic

>> No.9364472

>>9364451

In most fields scholarship has moved on since in the nineteenth century.

>> No.9364473

>>9364451
>marx understood economics better than you ever will
You don't know him

>> No.9364476

>>9364472
as has political philosophy, but i wouldn't recommend he reads luxemburg or debord until he has at least read marx

>> No.9364478

Reading is for fags, just read peep the frog rage comics and meme circle image macros and you're golden.

>> No.9364484

>>9364473
He spent twenty years locked in a library reading every reserce available on the subject until his ass bled from carbuncles. I wonder if you can say the same.

>> No.9364492

>>9364484
No I can't, but maybe that other guy has potential man

>> No.9365187

>>9363598
reading "a brief history of neoliberalism" by david harvey rn and it's getting me up to speed

>> No.9365198

>>9363598
The Road to Serfdom

>> No.9365200

>>9364422
>should of
>of

>> No.9365210

>>9365198
Why do people keep memeing this retarded book?

>dude interventionism totally leads to full communism because i say so

>> No.9365295

>>9365210
Just look at the path Venezuela is taking.

>> No.9365336

>>9364484
yeah and then he faked the data

>> No.9365402

>>9363598
If you want an intelligent response against him, then Weber.

>> No.9365412

>>9363598
bernstein's preconditions of socialism
meiksin-wood's retreat from class

>> No.9365416

>>9365210
it doesn't
but progressive taxation do

>> No.9365422

>>9365336
[citation required]

>> No.9365448

>>9365422
https://books.google.com.br/books/about/Comments_on_the_Use_of_the_Blue_Books_Ma.html?id=ETMctwAACAAJ&redir_esc=y

>> No.9365580

>>9363598
Why would you intentionally be retarded?

>> No.9366144

>>9363598
>digesting

>> No.9366372

>>9365448
They accused him of misusing and possibly falsifying quotations, not faking the data.

>> No.9366418

>>9366372
Engels, who had used the blue books in another of his works, addresses these claims as the first serious attack on Marx's scholarship in the preface to the fourth edition German edition of Capital vol 1. Basically there was a process of correcting the parliamentary record after the fact. Unfortunately for them what was said on the parliamentary floor was rerecorded in the daily newspapers, from which Marx quoted in his inaugural address to the First International.
For Tanner and Carey this wasn't really important, more so that capitalists were really very nice people and Marx was being unfair to them.

>> No.9366433

>>9363598

>digesting Capital?

You might as well eat all three volumes for all the good that book will do you.

>> No.9366467

>>9366433
capital fucked me up
what a terrifying world

>> No.9366477

Conquest of Bread

>> No.9366647

War is a Racket

>> No.9366697

>>9363598
Capital in the 21st century by Thomas Piketty might be good. He uses a different definition of 'capital', but it addresses the inequality in today's society in an original and cut-to-the-core fashion.

>> No.9366710

>>9363598
Industrial Society and Its Future

>> No.9366720

>>9363598
depends where you wanna go with it, benjamin is great but hes more in the cultural direction

>> No.9366724

>>9366697
>Capital in the 21st century by Thomas Piketty might be good.
The guy literally debunks one of the central hypotheses of marxism.

>> No.9366764

>>9363598
I hope you at least read Plato -> Descartes ->Kant -> Hegel before going to Marx. Who am I kidding, if you did you wouldn't be asking for more marxist lit

How about you spend some time getting to know different schools of thought rather than voluntarily indoctrinating yourself?

>> No.9366777

>>9366724
Proving my point it's a good follow-up read. Perspective and all that

>> No.9366783
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CAN somebody tell me what a class is ?????????????

>> No.9366799

>>9363598
late capitalism Ernest Mandel

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>>9363598
Now that you know how capital works, do yourself a faror, skip the Marxist literature interregnum and catch up with the 21C.

>> No.9366807

>>9364484
>my ancestors are smiling on me, capitalist. can you say the same?

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>>9366807

>> No.9367885

>>9363598
II Rubin's Essays on the Labor-theory of value
Rosdolsky’s The Making of Marx’s Capital
the Gundrisse

>> No.9367926

>>9364431
this guy knows his shit (except mb for althusser, never read him)

>> No.9367935

>>9364431
Good post, thank you.

Do you recommend that order? Like from Marx to Lukacs or should I go in between through Lenin/Rosa Luxemburg?

>> No.9367972

>>9363598
Zur Judenfrage
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jewish_Question

>> No.9368429

>>9364422
>should of
Come on, dude.

>> No.9368535

>>9366697
Don't read this book. The historical analysis upon which this book depends amounts to nothing more than extremely poor scholarship masquerading as thoughtful contrarianism. His conflation of Nazism with Socialism merely because they have similar names in German is an example of stupidity on the level of mistaking the PATRIOT Act for patriotism or the Ministry of Peace for peacefulness. This distracting error is unfortunately the foundation of the entirety of his argument. His theory of authoritarianism consists of extrapolations from misplaced assumptions about Nazi Germany and disproven projections about the direction the U.S. & Britain are heading in the post-war era. His quaint economic theory tells us little about contemporary authoritarian regimes and even less about modern social democracy. In sum, don't bother.

>> No.9368628

>>9364376
Being marxist is the true redpill.
/pol/ is just the bluepill painted in red

>> No.9368738

>>9368429
Deepest apologies to all. I'll shut the door on my way out.

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>>9364367
Are you suggesting totalitarian censorship of information you don't like.

My goodness, your differences from what you claim to hate must be negligible!

>> No.9368853

Karl Kautsky
Nicos Poulantzas
Paul Lafargue
Cornelius Castoriadis
Marx Theories of Surplus Value
Luxemburg The Accumulation of Capital
Proudhon What Is Property?

>> No.9369233

>>9368628
Wouldn't say that. Definitely better than being a /pol/tard sure. Read Castoriadis my dood, helped me snap out of marxism when i was 15.

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>>9368853

Lafargue wouldn't have been remembered had he not been Marx's son-in-law. Poulantzas's kinda poor too imo

Proudhon is no marxist but he's definitely worth reading (Particularly his "Federalism")

Castoriadis is bae. This man truly was a fucking genius, rip.

>> No.9370288

Bump for interest

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>>9363598
What specifically are you interested in?

In any case, Critique of the Gotha Programme is mandatory, since it debunks the entire tradition of "Marxism"-"Leninism".

There also exists a huge reading list on basically every topic by some bloke named Eden Sauvage.

>>9366724
Which one? Cause if you're referring to the Tendency of Rate of Profit to Fall his own numbers prove Marx right. Look up "Piketty against Piketty" by Maito.

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>>9363598

The Soul of Man under Socialism

>> No.9371643

>>9363598

Forgot to mention daddy De Man, y'know the neosocialist. Guy fucked up a bit during the german occupation, but he had good breinz. "Beyond Marxism", "The socialist ideal", etc are particularly interesting. Bernstein is worth mentioning too, as he embodied the "revisionist" turn. Same thing for Jaurès.

>> No.9371646

>>9365402

Up.

>>9365198
Polanyi >

>> No.9371672

>>9365198

Polanyi > Hayek

>>9366433

The 2d one is more classic tho, you can pass on it imo. The Grundrisse are a must-read too.

>>9366477
Kropotkin is no marxist dood.

>>9367972
Seconded. If you're interested in the "young Marx" (don't really agree with Althusser "epistemological cut",as it suggest Marx had totally stopped being an hegelian after 1845 but meh), his Manuscripts of 1844 are a must-read as well, particularly for the conceptualization of alienation (Emtausserung).

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>>9363598
Start here.

>> No.9372170

>>9363598
balzac

>> No.9372177

>>9363598

the next thing to digest would be a cyanide pill

>> No.9372185

>>9366433
>reading books as self-help
To fucking pleb for reddit

>> No.9372199

>>9371684
>A Common Sense Guide

Yeah, I'll pass.

>> No.9372688

Marx The Poverty of Philosophy which was an answer to Proudhon's System of Economic Contradictions, or Philosophy of Poverty

>> No.9373779

>>9372170

Yup. Although Balzac was a legitimist (supporter of the Orleans), Marx revered him. Dunno if it was him or Engels who once said he had learned more about modern capitalist society reading Balzac than by reading the economists of his time

>> No.9373789

>>9372688

Kinda hard to find (in France at least). Interesting if you want to study the evolution of Marx's thought, but that's it

>> No.9374588

>>9365187
How are Harvey's books? I've enjoyed his Capital lectures a lot