/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.9344992]

*subverts western society
>nothing personal kid, white people are fascist

[Anonymous No.9344993]

This board is utter shit.

[Anonymous No.9344999]

>>9344993
It's some butthutt frogman who got btfo by a leftist in some other thread probably

[Anonymous No.9345014]

>>9344992
Is this the new cultural marxism meme? Which writer's philosophy will be an elaborate plan to destroy the fragile white race next week?

[Anonymous No.9345020]

Culture of blame, rooted in fear and desperation.

Sort yourself out.

[Anonymous No.9345022]

I do not think you understand what "subverts western society" exactly means, and I have serious doubts about OP ever reading Adorno.

Basically if you /pol/lacks bothered to read him you'd probably agree with him on 90% of the things he says.

He warned people that there would be attempt to subvert tradition, to take away its meaning and this is something that should be protected/acted against. He also encouraged the future to develop from the tradition, not deconstructing it or "subverting tradition" as is so popular for any post-modern author or movement.

I hate this board.

[Anonymous No.9345032]

>>9344993
>t. Adorno

[Anonymous No.9345041]

Western Civilization was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.9345051]

>>9345022
If only they knew Adorno isn't too popular with contemporary leftist groups and movements because they consider him too 'conservative' and elitist. Shoot, why don't the ignorant /pol/lacks ever start a thread using Marcuse's picture? Why Adorno? I feel like it's all one giant, elaborate joke (this thread most certainly is an attempt at one).

[Anonymous No.9345054]

technically it was the enlightenment that was the mistake

t. fan

[Anonymous No.9345055]

>>9345054
I do agree, is there any counter-argument against the case that Adorno makes? It makes complete sense to me.

[Anonymous No.9345059]

>cultural marxism conspiracy theories

When will this meme end?

>22 july 2011 spike

th..th..th..thanks breivik

[Anonymous No.9345060]

The problem is that Western men don't know what to do with themselves anymore.

Prosperity has made us decadent fools.

[Anonymous No.9345063]

>>9345055
re-apply kant

[Anonymous No.9345067]

>>9345060
not "prosperity" but the ideology of freedom

[Anonymous No.9345069]

Don't know what you guys are worried about. Our glorious post-racial globalist favela world village filled with rampant raping violent underworld crime and transnational upperworld financial fat cats who tell us all to check our privilege while mass rape and bombings occur is going to be great. At some point in the next 50 years there will be a complete breakdown in civil disorder, and then it is anyone's game. Can't escape in your jet when the fuel networks break down. Can't point and sputter on late night tv comedy about the current year when the power goes off. Won't be able to organize with mass public distrust, especially with ideologies that led to the breakdown.

>cannibal biker gang rolls up
>"what's your skill anon?"
>"ah, i was a b-b-bookish english lit major and grad student"
>loud guffaws
>"take his gf as a concubine and slit his throat"

[Anonymous No.9345077]

>>9345051
Marcuse went out of favor with the radical left in the early 70's when he concluded that a student vanguard will never lead a revolution......by the early 80's the frankfurt school was largely seen as a quirk in the history of the humanities and had been superseded by post-structuralism and the the so called "post debates".......that's how out of touch /pol/ is.

[Anonymous No.9345086]

>>9345077
b..b..b..b..but the cultural marxists of the 60's and 70's became teachers and brainwashed generations through state schooling

[Anonymous No.9345090]

>>9345067
I agree.

People don't know what to do with freedom. Possibly because they are incapable of restraining themselves. Or because they feel continually hurried into production.

Abundance turned us into slaves who lack even the integrity to realize that they are slaves.

[Anonymous No.9345093]

>>9345069
jokes on you faggot i don't have a gf and i want to die

[Anonymous No.9345099]

>>9345090

this,

also why we need to put everyone into labor camps and put us intellectuals in charge

[Anonymous No.9345100]

>>9345086
Yeah I wish Adorno and Marcuse went redpilling people in the colleges but lo and behold nothing about modern deconstuction and spite of tradition reminds you of their writings

[Anonymous No.9345123]

>>9345099
ah yes, the reverse pol pot argument. very interesting.

[Anonymous No.9345132]

freedom isn't physical in the sense of boundary

it is a kind of the deontological freedom of substances, that people create objects of art for the effect that it creates in the society rather than the freedom promised by enlightenment

thus implying the society went wrong during or after the enlightenment due to this misdirection, that freedom tends towards totalitarian principles of serving as a means of another thing

[Anonymous No.9345151]

>>9345123

the khmer rouge did nothing wrong emptying the cities of inner city faggots that had black framed glasses and killing them on an industrial scale, if we did the same today 90% of earth's problems would go away

[Anonymous No.9345154]

>>9345151
ow. so edgy.

[Anonymous No.9345161]

>>9345060
>>9345067
>>9345090
>implying it's not commodification and alienation

[Anonymous No.9345168]

>>9345151
You managed to be more edgy than /pol/

[Anonymous No.9345171]

>>9345151

[Anonymous No.9345191]

>>9345161
it is but the cause is antithetical to enlightenment

[Anonymous No.9345196]

>>9345022
>Basically if you /pol/lacks bothered to read him you'd probably agree with him on 90% of the things he says

Well yeah no shit. Much of the Frankfurt School is just repackaged 19c reactionary thought (Baudelaire, Balzac, Nietzsche, etc) in pseudo-Marxist language. All of the Frankfurt School came from very wealthy, bourgeois backgrounds. They retained their parents' disdain for poor people, but gave it a left-wing spin. It's not surprising that the Frankfurt School became popular with American coastal elites, especially at our universities

[Anonymous No.9345221]

>>9345168
Pol Pot had the right instincts. Intellectuals as a class are more damaging to society than capitalists. The irony is that it was Western intellectuals who put these ideas into his head.

[Anonymous No.9345236]

>>9345069
>shitposting nerd with no survival skills fantasizes about the violent downfall of society

What's your skill, anon?

[Anonymous No.9345238]

>>9344993
Of course it is.
The worse board

[Anonymous No.9345264]

>>9345099
We require intellectualism far less than competency. Automation is making us worthless but we become more valuable to the system of objects the more worthless and pathetic we become.

>>9345161
I would prefer to be alienated from alienation. Capitalism supplies no morality but socialism pretends to supply too much of it. Every herd has some reason to be a herd.

[Anonymous No.9345266]

>>9345196
I wouldn't be surprised if /pol/ is way more read than /lit/ gives them credit for, they employ extensive knowledge of postmodernism and Marxist/psychoanalytic film theory

I've also seen several posters on their Christian generals discuss Theology at a graduate level.

[Anonymous No.9345326]

>>9345266
ive never seen a /pol/tard get marxism right. it's all positions made by secondary literature. there are a few /lit/ters who have at least read kapital.

[Anonymous No.9345329]

>>9345266
>I wouldn't be surprised if /pol/ is way more read than /lit/ gives them credit for

I would

>they employ extensive knowledge of postmodernism and Marxist/psychoanalytic film theory

I think you're confusing "extensive" with "easily regurgitated soundbites that confirm their predispositions"

I've come across a couple of posters who seem half knowledgeable over the passed few years.... but generally they abhor intellectualism and displays of original thinking or intelligence.

[Anonymous No.9345350]

>>9345266
>I've also seen several posters on their Christian generals discuss Theology at a graduate level.

Also the threads where anons ask for legit sources on Jewish elites. It's like asking the history department of an Israeli University.

[Anonymous No.9345359]

>>9345329

>they abhor intellectualism and displays of original thinking or intelligence

more likely that they abhor people with sticks up their asses

[Anonymous No.9345372]

>>9344993
>>9344999
>>9345014
>>9345022
Adorno's expressed intention is to disempower the heretofore established direction of the history of western philosophy. It's not a conspiracy theory - /pol/ may treat it as such, and likewise all y'all reactionaries may call them out on it, but its not. Its literally the aim of his philosophy

[Anonymous No.9345388]

>>9344992
Wasn't Adorno's whole shtick about how jazz was capitalist trash and classical music was superior?

That's about as far from /pol/ style cultural Marxism as you can get

[Anonymous No.9345397]

>>9345372

Any time the left does anything either in secret or out in the open, and people notice or call them out, this noticing and call out becomes a "conspiracy theory".

[Anonymous No.9345413]

>>9345372
To continue, because all of you faggots are so paranoid about /pol/ that you will embrace ignorance to display your hatred of them ---

"Society in its present form... is based not, as has been ideologically assumed since Aristotle, on appeal, on attraction, but rather on the pursuit of one's own interests against the interests of everyone else."

Adorno is in outright revolt against the trajectory of western thinking. From his persepctive, the end of the road was Auschwitz - a complete relapse into barbarism for western civilization. If our moral, ethical imperative is to avoid another such relapse, we need to completely reassess the foundations of western thought that led to the death camps.

So fuck you knee-jerk anti-/pol/ crusaders for acting like you know shit

[Anonymous No.9345418]

>>9345397
Reminder "conspiracy theorist" was coined by the CIA to discredit people who guessed correctly.

[Anonymous No.9345424]

>>9345397
you can't have cultural marxism without ZOGs n shit.

[Anonymous No.9345452]

>>9345051
Adorno is still extremely influential, at least in the colleges I've ben to. His aesthetics are still the consensus.

[Anonymous No.9345530]

>>9344992

Western society =/= white people

also I always find it pretty funny that all of these people who claim to hate racism so much are perfectly fine with clumping together many different races into just "white people"
Pretty much no different from calling everyone in Asia Chinese or everyone in South America Mexican

[Anonymous No.9345637]

>>9345151
I agree.

Tortoise shell framed glasses master-race.

[Anonymous No.9345658]

>>9345530
Your analogy is backwards you stupid Swede

[Anonymous No.9345798]

>>9345077
Habermas is still around

[Anonymous No.9345818]

>>9345530
>Pretty much no different from calling everyone in Asia Chinese or everyone in South America Mexican


yes because there is a whitepeopleistan and all the white people aren't just people with a white skin.
Those who aren't racists tend to not believe in the concept of "race".

[Anonymous No.9345829]

Frankfurt School were pure evil. Adorno and Walter Benjamin were satanists.

http://henrymakow.com/2016/01/Frankfurt-School-is-Illuminati-Jewish-Satanism.html

[Anonymous No.9345838]

>>9345818

>Those who aren't racists tend to not believe in the concept of "race".

yeah exactly
everyone who fights against racism is actually racist
a classic self fulfilling prophecy

[Anonymous No.9346566]

>>9345413
Looking forward to seeing a single constructive counter-argument to this post from Marxist faggots.