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9324923 No.9324923 [Reply] [Original]

How does /lit/ feel about this novel?

>> No.9324938

>>9324923
its gud

>> No.9324940

kek!

>> No.9324942

>>9324938
more detail plz

>> No.9324944

>>9324923
bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk!

>> No.9324954

>>9324944
Wow! The word for thunder in different languages all smashed up together. Truly this shows the genius of Joyce!

Come on guys, Finnegans Wake was just gibberish garbage.

>> No.9324971

>>9324944
Wow this is literally an excerpt from the book, what the fuck lmao

>> No.9324978

>>9324954
It's genius in context

>> No.9325012

>>9324978
How so?

>> No.9325013

greatest novel ever written, every sentence is a masterpiece. If someone told me that I'd have to life on a desert island and I could only bring 3 books I'd tell them to just give me the first chapter of the wake and I'd be fine.

>> No.9325069

Most stories are written to be linear, but Finnegan's Wake is quite the exception. It starts mid-sentence, and the book is rather confusing afterward, and then it ends with the first half of the sentence that was in the beginning. The story itself is like a river, constantly rushing, and the book ends up being a radial form. A true work of art.

>> No.9325095

>>9324923
one of the more meticulously crafted books

>> No.9325110

>>9324923
it's great if you're into scat

>> No.9325159

>>9325110
as in shit or singing?

>> No.9325169

>>9325159
take a fucking guess

>> No.9325176

>>9325169
i mean the book is gibberish soooooo

>> No.9325222

truly hilarious. some of the funniest shit i've experienced

>> No.9326722

He addle liddle phifie Annie ugged the little craythur.

>> No.9326757

>>9324923

Finnegans Wake is like Duchamp's Fountain or Andy Warhol's 6-hour film of someone sleeping. They were important at the time for challenging people's definition of art, but under no circumstances is it something that should be revisited, or, God forbid, have any influence on living artists.

>> No.9326763

I really feel bad for the people who think FW is literal gibberish. These intellectual peons can only fathom immediate gratification. The mental world they inhabit must be so small and boring. If you spend more than 30 seconds with the book, it's clearly not gibberish.

>> No.9326782

>>9324944
just say thunder nigga, the fuck all this gay shit there for anyway?

>> No.9326785

>>9324923

Novel? More like a sink ride down level five literary rapids in the overflowing stream of consciousness that was Joyce's genius.

>> No.9326827

>>9326757
>Comparing Joyce to autistic, untalented "artists"
Please don't. Joyce put more effort into FW than they did in their entire lives combined

>> No.9326831

do i need to read anything before wake? finished ulysses recently

>> No.9326850

>>9326757
Guarantee you haven't read more than 3 pages of FW, mate.

>> No.9326852

>>9325069
rivers never run in circles though. that makes no sense.

>> No.9327111

>>9326827

Why should that matter if the result is equally shitty?

>inb4 go back to reading YA

Yes, because Victor Hugo, Tolstoy, Steinbeck, Austen, Dickens, Proust, Hawthorne, and Melville are the same as Twilight.

>>9326850

Nor have I watched more than 5 seconds of Andy Warhol's "Sleep."

>> No.9327149

>>9324923
Unreadable

>> No.9327156

>>9326831
The greeks

>> No.9327240

>>9326831
Start with the entire western canon.

>> No.9327290

I like word puzzles but it seems like too much effort for me to personally go through it and slowly, deliberately decode it. I'd rather reread Les Miserables or play tennis.

>> No.9327313

>>9325012
The context is that you need to read it with the entire Western Canon shoved up your ass

>> No.9327456

>>9325013
THIS

STAY WAKE /lit/

>> No.9327479
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9327479

Lit is fucking dead. You got plebs on here questioning the greatness of Joyce's masterpiece.. THE masterpiece of the written word. Get a fucking job you assclowns.

>> No.9327506

>>9327479
Go to bed Tao

>> No.9327765

If I don't get the goddamn pasta in this thread I'm going to be mighty fucking disappointed with you, /lit/.

>> No.9328343

>>9324923
Joyce was a deeply boring provincial hack of a writer.

>> No.9328348

>>9324944
This is real? Wow, Joyce is a hack.

I'll stick to Melville, Shakespeare, and the KJV.

>> No.9328351

Yeah, I actually read the whole thing because I had to. I was entering a prestigious PhD program and focusing on Joyce because I loved Dubliners, Portrait, and Ulysses. To my shame, though, I'd never read the Wake. I'd never even tried, as hard as that was to admit. It was this huge blind spot and area of vulnerability for me. Whenever it'd come up with my colleagues I'd just smile and nod, smile and nod, hoping they wouldn't ask me anything specific about it. "The musicality of it," somebody would say, and I'd say, "Oh God, yes, it's like Beethoven." Finally, though, I had to dive into it, and let me tell you it was tough going. Joseph Campbell's guide helped a lot. Reading it out loud helped. I listened to other people read it, read online commentaries. Eventually it started to make some sort of sense. It was like I was learning to read for the first time again, and in a way this was enjoyable. I got better at reading the book. Soon I was reading entire paragraphs without trouble, getting the puns, laughing at the jokes. I could sort of follow the story, it was like a blurry picture resolving into clarity, or like I was drunk and I was sobering up, I could actually understand it. As I became more and more adept at reading the Wake, I began putting myself to the test, initiating conversations with my colleagues about it, but specific passages this time, specific parts of the book. You can probably guess what happened. After a number of these conversations it became blindingly obvious that I understood the book a lot better than they did, they who I thought were the experts. It eventually became sort of embarrassing for them and I stopped trying to talk about it. And at the end of the day I would pack my things, catch the bus home, and settle into my apartment to read the Wake. It had surpassed all of Joyce's other works in my estimation. Ulysses, the book months earlier I would've named as my favorite of all time, the best book ever written, was now #2 to the Wake. So majestic, so ambitious, so wide-ranging, erudite, glorious, incredible was it that I couldn't believe that it was the work of one man. Best of all, the heart of it isn't complicated at all. What did I get from the Wake, what are its lessons? First of all, be yourself. Second of all, put one foot in front of the other. And lastly, just do it for crying out loud, time's a wastin'!

>> No.9328354

>>9328348
Good lad!

>> No.9328403

>>9327156
>>9327240
ive read the greeks and 90% of the canon, am i ready?

>> No.9328424

>>9328351
here's your (you)

>> No.9329015

>>9328351
Unless this is some shitty pasta please enlighten me, a humble plebeian, by summarizing the plot and clarifying no more than 3 relevant insights that you got from the novel.

>> No.9329271

>>9325069
>>9324954
>>9326757
>>9326785
>>9326757
>>9327111
>>9327149


t. never read it

>> No.9329324

>>9324923
It's not a novel. Neither is Ulysses. They're books.

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9329357

>>9326785
This pleases me. Have a (You).

>> No.9329374

>>9324923
Same way I feel about all Joyce minus a few short stories in Dubliners..

Utter wank.

>> No.9330493

>>9324923
>you could've written Wake
>because Joyce wrote it first you will never be famous
this is the malice of the author
by claiming ideas for his own, he robs future generations of the ability to discover