/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.9324699]

>age
>location
>current book you're reading and how do you like it

[Anonymous No.9324708]

>>9324699
im redpilled

[Anonymous No.9324730]

>>9324708
Prove it.

[Anonymous No.9324749]

>>9324699
22
The Plague by Albert Camus
Eh

[Anonymous No.9324755]

22
I, Claudius
it's good

[Anonymous No.9324759]

>>9324699
>31
>Guatemala
>Laurus

Loving it.

[Anonymous No.9324763]

one score and seven years
the north
"A social history of England" -Asa Briggs

Always intrigued by history treatises.

[Anonymous No.9324764]

>>9324749
...Rereading, right?
>18
>Finally going through Shakespeare because to date I was too lazy
>It's really good but the syntax and vocab fuck me up
No seriously Notes From the Underground was half ripped out of All's Well that Ends Well I'm fucking sure.

[Anonymous No.9324774]

>>9324699
>21
>The Gulag Archipelago

Man, how did Russia continue to pump out fucking classics like this, while America's last great author died in '73?

[Anonymous No.9324788]

>>9324764
Never re-read, there is too much content out there to waste my time doing it

[Anonymous No.9324809]

>>9324764
Get The Complete Works of William Shakespeare in Plain and Simple English (BookCaps) [William Shakespeare].epub

It has the original text, and all the lines but the most simple ones are translated to modern english bellow.

[Anonymous No.9324826]

>>9324774
Salinger died in 2010.

[Anonymous No.9324840]

>>9324699
21
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

7/10

[Anonymous No.9324841]

>>9324809
It's faster to take a moment and figure shit out than to reread a "translation" so thanks but no thanks.

[Anonymous No.9324864]

>>9324841
Then congratulations on having the biggest vocabulary ever and not needing a dictionary to read Shakespeare.

I read all of Shakespeare like 15 years ago, but I wish I had that epub back then.

Oh, by the way, the BBC adaptations from the 70s/80s are fantastic, and the one torrent floating around comes with english hardsubs, so I highly recommend them.

[Anonymous No.9324948]

>>9324864
I also read shakespeare without a translation and don`t think being verbose has much to do with being able to understand the works. Brought up with a parent who is a PhD Shakespeare Studies, EME was pretty standard in the household. Reading shakespeare is as easy as reading a modern text using context clues.

[Anonymous No.9324969]

19
Ghost on the Throne (Wars following Alexander the Greats death)

Pretty interesting, enjoying myself. I`m moving through histories and biographies currently to better give myself a context for the other works I want to read.

[Anonymous No.9324973]

23
United States
The Brothers Karamazov (after recommendation by Jordan Peterson)

Pretty good. Translated. Easy. Really puts you in the place.

[Anonymous No.9324985]

>>9324699
19
Florida
The Devil in the White City, though I'm kinda in the beginning of The Ascent of Man too

I read a good portion of white city but never finished so I'm rereading it, but I love it. Ascent is alright but I've got it on a kindle and I don't think I'll be able to enjoy it on that platform.

[Anonymous No.9325039]

>>9324699
>too old (more than 30)
>France
>"La Religione del mio tempo" by Pasolini, so far so good in spite of my perfectible Italian

[Anonymous No.9325048]

>14
>Oakland
>George Orwell: A Collection of Essays; hella good. I can't believe it's taken me this long to read Orwell, but I relate to him so much. "Shooting an Elephant," "Politics & the English Language," and "Why I Write" are god-tier.

[Anonymous No.9325059]

>>9324699
>21
>Italy
>The Geneaology of Morals

Damn, I see why people despise so much people in their 20s who read Nietzsche: I unironically feel enlightened, almost esctatic. The power that these writings have excerted on my personality is close to what actual brainwashing could feel like.
Also reading them in German is blissful, never in my life I have been drawned so much from a writing style.

[Anonymous No.9325062]

>>9325048
>14

You mean 24?

[Anonymous No.9325064]

>>9325062
>>9325048
MODS!!!!!

[Anonymous No.9325073]

>>9324699
>19
>Bavaria
>Steppenwolf, top

[Anonymous No.9325075]

22
Scandinavia
Plato's Republic
It's alright but Socrates is a huge faggot.

[Anonymous No.9325092]

>>9324699
21
United States
The Case for Christ

Holy fuck it's bad.

[Anonymous No.9325118]

>>9324699
24
American Gods - (yes I know)
UK

[Anonymous No.9325129]

>>9325062
No

[Anonymous No.9325145]

>>9324764
>>9325048
Fuck off you underage faggots

[Anonymous No.9325167]

27
Lunchbag
The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea

I was not expecting it to get more fucked up than the first chapter. I was wrong. It speaks to me.

[Anonymous No.9325174]

>23
>Chile
>The Savage Detectives
I somewhat like it

[Anonymous No.9325182]

34, Michigan, Cain by Jose Saramago, 7/10

[Anonymous No.9325187]

>>9324699
29
Southwest USA
Sons & Lovers by D.H. Lawrence
I am enjoying it. It is my first real reading of Lawrence before that I have only read his criticism of American literature.

[Anonymous No.9325191]

24
Connecticut
Chronic City, Lethem.
It's pretty funny.

[Anonymous No.9325196]

>>9324699
41
biloxi, ms
the chronicles of narnia. i never read it as a child so i'm reading it now. it's okay.

[Anonymous No.9325201]

>20
>Colorado
>Les Miserables and Napolean: A life

[Anonymous No.9325204]

>>9325129
I can't even imagine what you're gonna be like in 4 years. it scares me.

[Anonymous No.9325209]

>>9325204
What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.9325211]

23
The Hobbit by Tolkien

This is my first time reading Tolkien and I'm enjoying it for the most part. His narration throughout the story is charming, especially when he's developing characters. The description of the scenery is long-winded, however. I understand this is part of world-building but I find a lot of the prose when he's describing nature to be basic. But also I have to understand that this was originally written to be a children's book. I definitely enjoy the book enough to read Fellowship of the Ring.

[Anonymous No.9325225]

>>9325196
>Biloxi

John Kennedy Toole killed himself in Biloxi, since then I hate Biloxi

[Anonymous No.9325226]

>>9325211
The two are only vaguely similar. You have to read LotR like you'd read collected scrolls of an ancient saga with a focus on the myth and linguistic nuances to get the most out of it. Fellowship is great, but it gets heavy after that.

[Anonymous No.9325227]

>22
>Austria
>Lyrical Ballads by Wordsworth and Coleridge
Great so far desu

[Anonymous No.9325330]

>>9325059
*so many people
*exerted
*drawn

[Anonymous No.9325361]

>>9325048
>hella good
lol
life is hella strange

[Anonymous No.9325381]

>>9325225
he didn't watch out for those biloxi blues

>>9325196
how far are you into it? i'm also biloxi and just read "the magician's nephew." the song that created the world really appealed to my alt-christian life, desu

[Anonymous No.9325387]

>19
>Kentucky, US
>Franz Kafka's "The Trial." I'm enjoying it so far, especially since I already hate bureaucracy with a fiery passion.

[Anonymous No.9325392]

19
Texas
This Side of Paradise
I like it

[Anonymous No.9325398]

>>9324699

>20
>Factótum by Bukowski and A Arte de Causar Efeito sem Causa by Lourenço Mutarelli.
>Yep, enjoying. Mutarelli is the symbolic and pessimist latin version of Bukowski. Love his writtings.

[Anonymous No.9325402]

>>9325048
I started browsing /lit/ when I was 15, so I'll give you an advice: don't trust 4chan too much. It is you who creates yourself, not a group of strangers on the internet.
Enjoy your ban.

[Anonymous No.9325406]

>20
>Scotland
>The Trial
its pretty unique, im really enjoying the idea of a dystopian bureaucracy, the idea of social constructs hampering peoples lives to such a degree and so obvious a fashion is interesting and seeing logical arguments put forth against these constructs only to be rebuffed by the system due to the nature of the system itself as an inadvertent or intentional defensive mechanism is great especially when written so well.
Any recommendations on what to read next, or just more Kafka?

[Anonymous No.9325409]

>>9325398

Kek forgot my country. Brazil.

[Anonymous No.9325413]

>>9325048

>Anons get triggered when underage show up here
>Literally everyone browsed this hellhole since their teens.

[Anonymous No.9325420]

>>9325406
>>9325392
>not reading the thread
well fuck me then

[Anonymous No.9325422]

>>9324699
>23
>France
>Everyman Dies Alone by Hans Fallada
>Bretty gud :D

[Anonymous No.9325455]

>20
>Denmark
>Das Kapital
>Looks dry at first glance but is actually quite fun to read once you get started.

[Anonymous No.9325477]

>>9325226
Sounds like I'd enjoy LOTR more then. I'm honestly not a huge fan of fantasy but I heard nothing but praise for the series from all types of readers.

[Anonymous No.9325486]

>>9325413
Nobody's actually triggered, it's ironic.

[Anonymous No.9325523]

>>9324699
>19
>New Hampshire, US
>Herodotus' Histories

I'm reading the penguin classics edition and loving it so far. The introduction was great and the notes are really helpful. Herodotus is such an interesting character and I'm surprised that you guys rarely discuss his work considering how much you all love Homer. I didn't expect it to be so funny; I've had a few chuckles and I'm only near the end of book one.

[Anonymous No.9325638]

18
Leuven
Phenomenology of Spirit.
Absolutely brilliant and surprisingly decipherable.

[Anonymous No.9325681]

>>9325638
I want to read Hegel as well. Is there something I have to read before?

[Anonymous No.9325804]

>>9324699
>21
>AZ
>Satantango
I thought at first that I wouldn't like the writing style but I've turned around for the most part and like it in general

anybody know if the movie is better?

[Anonymous No.9325837]

>>9324699
19
Tehran, Iran
The Martian by Andy Weir
I love it when in sci-fi books are scientifically accurate

[Anonymous No.9325854]

>24
>Brooklyn
>Dune

Feel like I could be making better use of my time. I'm gonna read something by Hemingway next probably. Best starting point? I thought I saw a flowchart with the Sun Also Rises.

[Anonymous No.9325865]

>22
>US
>Libra - Don Delillo
My second delillo book. the prose is immaculate. Delillo also jam packs his books with all kinds of different shit to talk about I feel like I have to read it a second time once I'm done

[Anonymous No.9325871]

>>9325201
what part of CO? I'm >>9325865
in the Springs

[Anonymous No.9325889]

>>9324699
19
Edinburgh
Cours de linguistique générale - Ferdinand de Saussure
Interesting to read the absolute basis of the field.

[Anonymous No.9325897]

>>9325681
Sorry for the late response.
I wouldn't say that there are works that you HAVE to read before reading the Phenomenology. Mister Hegel will be (mostly implicitly) referencing a lot to previous thinkers, so having solid knowledge of the history of philosophy is needed to figure out what the hell he's on about. However, since he's basically respondig to every philsophical idea ever, it's not necessary to be on top of all these references. If anything, brush up your Kant.
At some point you just have to jump into the hermeneutical circle. The same applies for his own work btw. It isn't even evident where to start in the Phenomenology itself. You won't get too much out of the preface on first reading, but without it you'll have a hard time seeing where the whole project is heading later on.

In short: don't worry too much about prerequisite reading and focus on rereading passages of the Phenomenology itself.

You might find this post of mine in a different thread helpful >>9325563

[Anonymous No.9325910]

19
MO
Under the pyramids
Lovecraft is pretty good

[Anonymous No.9325915]

>20
>New York (not NYC)
>The Autobiography of Malcom X

it's a-good!

[Anonymous No.9325919]

>>9325477
It's the only thing of its kind and the best fantasy on the market, but it's like reading a doctorate linguistics project on a translation of myth and history. I liked the Hobbit more on a personal level as I'm into folklore, but LotR is a different level that is better overall. The individual bits and pieces can be shit but the meta level of the whole thing is beyond reproach.

[Anonymous No.9325922]

>>9325910
Is that the one he ghostwrote for Harry Houdini?

[Anonymous No.9325934]

>>9325854
Dune is great if you've ever studied occult mysticism. Get spiritual and try again or something.

[Anonymous No.9325941]

>>9325934
or if you just have a hard on for philosopher kings like me

[Anonymous No.9325947]

>>9325922
Not ghost written but more based on a story Houdini had coming back from Egypt

[Anonymous No.9325949]

19
Kafka - The Trial
It's nothing special so far

[Anonymous No.9326024]

>>9325804
Haven't read the book, but the movie is very good. If you want to get into Tarr, however, Werckmeister Harmonies (also Krasznohorkai adaptation) is just as good while not as excruciatingly long.

[Anonymous No.9326039]

22
Ireland
Les Miserables

Im only 170 pages in. The characters are good but atm Hugo is referencing back to Greek/Roman scholars incessantly. Thats the only drawback so far, its makes pages laborious to read.

[Anonymous No.9326051]

>22
>DC
>The Idiot

Just started.

[Anonymous No.9326069]

>>9324699
>30
>UK
>Mason & Dixon
love it

[Anonymous No.9326073]

>>9324699
>21
>Chicago
>Reflections on the Revolutions in France by Edmund Burke

I am really enjoying it

[Anonymous No.9326076]

No wonder this board is such a shit show. We're all in our early 20's and we think we know fucking everything because we read good books.

[Anonymous No.9326099]

>>9324699
20
Madison
La Societe Du Spectacle

Each thesis gets me more and more spooked

[Anonymous No.9326102]

>>9325413
4chan didn't exist when I was a teenager.

>>9325486
>implying I'm not actually triggered by blatant violations of the rules

I hope he got banned for 4 years.

[Anonymous No.9326115]

>>9326099
Last period Debord (starting with "In girum imus nocte"...) is best Debord, though.

[Anonymous No.9326132]

>>9326115
just started spectacle

afaik Baudrillard made sure Situationalists would have no window for emancipation

[Anonymous No.9326134]

20
Montreal
Cultural Literacy by E. D. Hirsch

[Anonymous No.9326140]

>>9325406
>In the penal colony
In case you need more Kafka

[Anonymous No.9326146]

>>9326102
Nah bud, I'm still here

[Anonymous No.9326190]

>>9326073
How royalist/anti revolution is he? or is it a fair unbiased analysis?

[Anonymous No.9326200]

22
Texas
Gravity's Rainbow

I'm liking it a lot but am currently between homes and am lacking the energy to read it.

[Anonymous No.9326205]

>>9325854
I mean The old man and the sea is so short you could start with that to see Hemingways style and then work back to it after reading his other novels.

[Anonymous No.9326234]

19
Read Brave New World and 1984 back to back, does anybody on this board think 1984 is the superior novel and if so, why? It just seemed so one note to me in comparison. Don't get me wrong I understand it's significance, and it was written in a time where it's dystopia seemed plausible (in the distant future), but reading it in this day and age it just kinda seems hokey

[Anonymous No.9326256]

>>9325934
Is there a crash course on occult mysticism?

>>9326205
I actually read for whom the bell tolls and the sun also rises when I was like 14, but I was too young for Hemingway. I think I'll start with old man

[Anonymous No.9326272]

>>9326234
1984 is really good, but when you read it and BNW together it's impossible to appreciate it because Huxley was just so much more accurate with predicting what the future would be like. 1984 just seems like paranoia... BNW is just accurate.

[Anonymous No.9326276]

>>9326132
Situationnists other than Debord have little importance (IMO), he was the leading man for a reason.

Honestly, a book like "Commentaires sur la société du spectacle" (1988) is much more accessible: less convoluted, less hazy, less dogmatic.

But people prefer the hard version because they don't really understand it, so they can go full "omg so deep XD".

[Anonymous No.9326293]

>>9326276
I also must say "La Société du spectacle" contains essential aphorisms.

But the problem is: most people come with pre-conceived ideas, read these aphorisms, stop reading immediately after the first chapter, and think they're now redpilled about the media (because they think "the spectacle = what's on TV lol").

I found that the majority of people who name-drop Debord in conversations have zero understanding of the actual theory.

[Anonymous No.9326296]

>>9326276
Agreed, I wanna do commentaries after reading this labyrinth. Given context it makes sense for his debut to be so mystic and provocative, but the value of his work is difficult to extrapolate.

[Anonymous No.9326315]

>>9326293
What are we missing then? The Spectacle is just a way to describe complete division of images and life in post-marxist society. Anticipation of Baudrillards third order simulacra imo

[Anonymous No.9326328]

>>9324699
20
Brazil
Gardens of the Moon, 150 pages in and liking it so far

[Anonymous No.9326333]

18
Canada
Dracula, good but slow

[Anonymous No.9326337]

>>9326296
Just saying, the Commentaries are not about "The Society of spectacle" (the book), but about the society of spectacle (the phenomenon). So it's not like you're going to find a key about things you didn't understand in the first book.

If you do read French, the best choice is to read the massive volume of Debord's "Oeuvres", as some of his most inspiring texts are small articles, or even drafts, that aren't published in books.

For example, his short "Notes on the immigrant question" are pretty amazing:

http://www.notbored.org/immigrant-question.html

[Anonymous No.9326396]

>25
>Seattle
>Manual of Painting and Calligraphy- Jose Saramago

My first book by him and am enjoying the clever and introspective style of the work so far. Can already tell I am gonna read more by him after this.

[Anonymous No.9326406]

>20
>Minnesota
>The Brothers Karamazov (McDuff translation)

This is my second time reading TBK, really excited.

[Anonymous No.9326414]

>>9326337
>They have reason to no longer feel at home, it is true. This is because, in this horrible new world of alienation, there is no one other than immigrants.

Coming from the Right makes Debord's ideas seem so dirty. Easy to see where SJWs misunderstand and cherrypick him

thanks for the read

[Anonymous No.9326427]

>19
>A Short History of Decay
>Sometimes translation is sketchy but Cioran's aphorisms make it worth.

[Anonymous No.9326447]

>>9324699
>18
>US
>In Search of Philosophic Understanding y E.A. Burtt
It's pretty interesting look at philosophy and more ideologically dense than I expected, would reccomend

[Anonymous No.9326451]

>>9326447
>that typo
fuck I'm retarded

[Anonymous No.9326486]

>>9326414
In France, Debord is considered a must-read among the far-right (the "intellectual types" in the far-right, obviously).

>>9326315
>complete division of images and life

It could be a good definition, if you focus on the fact these images tend to become his life (a form of fake life).

The trick is that "images" are not merely things you see in the media, cinema, etc. but can be pretty much everything you see, since the economy molds the entire world, as well as your own vision of the world.

[Anonymous No.9326614]

>20
>Southampton, UK
>Will You Please Be Quiet, Please by Raymond Carver. Really enjoyed the early stories but I'm halfway through now and the middle ones haven't been that great - they're not as inventive and the characters aren't anywhere near as compelling.

[Anonymous No.9326639]

22
California
Nausea

I like parts of it

[Anonymous No.9326667]

24
Arizona
pic related

[Anonymous No.9326681]

>>9326667
oh and i love it. wittgensteins life was fascinating. reading it also makes it easier to tackle understanding his actual philosophy because his ideas are so heavily linked to his historical context/perspective

[Anonymous No.9326879]

>>9324788
You will miss a lot if you don't switch memes at some point. Once you get a taste of your surroundings, I hope it starts to make sense to go back and see some of that stuff again.

[Anonymous No.9327118]

22
Brazil
Brothers K.

Almost on book four, but it's really dragging now. I don't like Dmitri the slightest and I miss Father Zosima, tbqh.

>>9326328
Shitty book, meu negro.

[Anonymous No.9327127]

23
USA
The Iliad

I don't know if it's just because I've never read any Greek classics but it's just not engaging. I'm not having a good time.

[Anonymous No.9327154]

>>9324699
>21
>France
>The Great Gatsby

Quality writing, really enjoy it so far. And yes it's my first time reading it, but to be fair it's not as big in France as it is in the US, please no bully.

[Anonymous No.9327343]

>>9324699
23
Houston
The Road for a Southern Lit class. It's OK but a little boring. Just finished A Confederacy of Dunces and some O'Connor which was great.

[Anonymous No.9327345]

>>9325196
What's up dude. I went to the Jefferson Davis house in Beauvoir last year drunk off my ass with my ex gf. Passed out before the tour started.

[Anonymous No.9327357]

22
100 Years of Solitude
I was prepared for the incest but not the pedostuff. Good book so far though.

[Anonymous No.9327364]

>>9327357
also Australia

[Anonymous No.9327369]

>>9326234
BNW is the better "prediction" but taken purely as a novel 1984 is just far better. BNW feels like nothing but ideas shoved into a narrative

[Anonymous No.9328280]

>>9324699
18
Santa Barbara
Fathers and Sons by Ivan Turgenev.

Fairly good.

[Anonymous No.9328345]

>25
>A passage to India
>okey

[Anonymous No.9328360]

>>9324699
23
México
Divine Comedy, I'm re reading it in an edition that does not try to adequate the tercets to spanish, but changes the rhythm in favor of spanish metric. It's really good when compared to other spanish translations and the foot notes are god tier.

[Anonymous No.9328367]

>>9325174
Read Putas Asesinas, it's amazing.

[Anonymous No.9328447]

>>9325638
Do you study in Leuven? I'm currently getting my master's degree there

>23
>The Red Book / Liber Novus by C.G. Jung
A beautiful book of course, but not as mindblowing as I thought it'd be. I'm only halfway through though, and its becoming more and more interesting

[Anonymous No.9328479]

>>9324699
23
Brisbane
The Brothers Karamazov

>just moved up here, do any Brisbaners know a good bookstore?

[Anonymous No.9328516]

>>9328447
I do. I'm a philo undergrad with a history minor.

>reading Jung
>>>/T/iensestraat 102/
(You're probably getting your master in decent field tho. Physics?)

Anyway, enjoy your easter break.

[Anonymous No.9328527]

>>9324699
>19
>Tampa, FL
>Neuromancer
It's breddy good

[Anonymous No.9328566]

>>9324699
>18
>Australia
>The Magic Mountain.

Fuck me dead, mate.

[Anonymous No.9328573]

>>9326614
You liked the title story though, yeah?

[Anonymous No.9328654]

18
Ovid - Metamorphoses
It is both more difficult to get into due to my poor knowledge of mythology, and much more enjoyable than I expected. I never realised Gods could be so sexually predatory.

[Anonymous No.9328660]

>>9328654
Whoops. I am in Ausfailia: desert edition.

[Anonymous No.9328811]

>>9328654
>I never realised Gods could be so sexually predatory

All Greek gods do is fuck (rape), and kill.

[Anonymous No.9329120]

19
India
Confessions of St. Augustine

[Anonymous No.9329165]

23
turkey
Notes From the Underground
cringy but relatable

[Anonymous No.9330939]

>>9324699
30

India

the rational male - Rollo tomassi

[Anonymous No.9331006]

>21
>Colombia
>Dream of the Red Chamber. Currently in volume 3, comfy as fuck.

[Anonymous No.9333065]

>>9324699
22
México
the night eternal

[Anonymous No.9333070]

20
Brazil
Il barone rampante. It is ok. Not the best work by Calvino, but it is a fun read.

[Anonymous No.9333084]

wow you're all kids

where'd everyone from ten years ago go?

[Anonymous No.9333094]

>>9333084
They've gone to the Go-Go. You going to go?

[Anonymous No.9333603]

20
Colorado
Frankenstein

It's ok