Why is fascist literature so widely discarded?

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Anonymous Sun Mar 26 21:41:40 2017 No.9297393 [Reply] [Original]

Why is fascist literature so widely discarded?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 21:42:04 2017 No.9297395 >>9297393 Have you ever read any?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 21:42:13 2017 No.9297396 ideology

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 21:44:16 2017 No.9297404 >>9297393 By whom? Why do you care?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 21:45:15 2017 No.9297408 >>9297393 what works? and discarded by whom?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 21:46:42 2017 No.9297416 >>9297393 Because it sucks. I'm all for there being a good Fascist writer (of literature), but there aren't any.

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 21:48:12 2017 No.9297423
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>>9297393
It isn't. Celine is cannon by any standards and he was such an obsessive fascist and antisemite that, during the german occupation, even the SS officers avoided him because he simply wouldn't shut up about the Jews.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 21:49:14 2017 No.9297431 >>9297416 Ezra Pound?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 21:50:21 2017 No.9297435 >>9297393 >anti-intellectuals >produce negligible literature Truly jogs the mind

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 21:52:46 2017 No.9297445 Propaganda tends to work better in visuals and songs than it does in writing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 21:53:39 2017 No.9297447 >>9297393 >"We are men of action not reading." >Joseph Goebbels There really isn't any.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 21:53:46 2017 No.9297448 >>9297445 this is the correct answer

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 21:56:20 2017 No.9297456 >>9297445 Didn't the Nazi's co-opt some of Hamsun's work for their own ends?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 21:56:57 2017 No.9297459 >>9297435 Schmitt and Heidegger are top tier philosophers, even most lefties acknowledge their debt to them, though most likely their support of the regime was more driven by ambition than by genuine belief in national socialism.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:00:09 2017 No.9297475 >>9297459 Schmitt was not a fascist. His work in the 20s was focused on preserving the Wiemar constitution, and the Nazi's kicked him out because they thought his anti-semitism was insincere.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:02:46 2017 No.9297493 >>9297393 We've got the Divine Comedy, for one, Dante was basically a fascist wasn't he?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:03:56 2017 No.9297500 Because the only "fascist" literature worth anything isn't fascist at all, it was co-opted by the Reich as they had no intellectual literature of their own.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:07:50 2017 No.9297523 >>9297493 He's pro-republic and pro-Church, which is a bit of an odd combination, but there you go.

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:08:37 2017 No.9297527
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Sometimes you just have to soften the edges a little and work for MI-6.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/jamesbond/7948363/James-Bond-was-a-neo-fascist-gangster-says-John-Le-Carre.html

http://therightstuff.biz/2016/04/28/james-bond-literary-hitler/

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:11:35 2017 No.9297538 >>9297527 This is stupid, all Bond is is a superhero without a gaudy costume. Actually, that's pretty accurate. He's the quintessentially English version of Superman.

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:15:48 2017 No.9297560

>>9297459
I like how Germany went from having loads of great intellectual figures to having tree or four.

>>9297456
They did that with plenty of authors. They used some of Weininger's work even though they would have persecuted him. I can think of a handful of talented authors that were sympathetic to fascism, but I can't think of any good explicitly fascist literature.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:51:35 2017 No.9297721 >>9297560 >I can think of a handful of talented authors that were sympathetic to fascism such as?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:55:15 2017 No.9297737 >>9297721 Not him, but Hamsun, Pound, Heidegger are major canonical figures who were vocal proponents of various forms of fascism

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:58:09 2017 No.9297749 >>9297721 Pound, Yeats, Hamsun. Maybe handful was a little too generous. I think Stein and Lawrence might have also leaned towards that direction, bu I could be totally wrong on that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:59:09 2017 No.9297753 >>9297721 Brasillach, celine, henry de montherlant, drieu la rochelle, a number of authors in the modernist movement, etc, there were plenty.

Anonymous Sun Mar 26 22:59:51 2017 No.9297758
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>>9297721
Symbolist Poet Gabriele D'Annunzio was the originator of much of the aesthetic elements of fascism, like the title 'Duce', Roman Salutes, Black Shirted militias, etc. His regency in Fiume was arguably the first fascist dictatorship. He was quite a character. One of those early 20th century guys who read Nietzsche and decided they were supermen. Only 5'6, megalomaniac, WWI ace pilot, liked to crossdress in private. I haven't read any of his work, but apparently he's still highly regarded in italy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 23:03:13 2017 No.9297777 >>9297758 >that pic Maybe postmodernity isn't as bad as I thought.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 23:08:00 2017 No.9297798 >>9297777 hey you got that number i was looking for?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 23:10:31 2017 No.9297804 I'm pretty sure huysmans and junger and pla had fascist sympathies too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 26 23:12:05 2017 No.9297813 >>9297393 Because it challenges the progressive status quo. What literature are you talking about, specifically?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:05:18 2017 No.9297974 >>9297393 Fascist and marxist literature should be equally discarded and ridiculed, yet because academia is full of marxists this is not the case. Anything that argues against full private property rights is cancerous.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:11:23 2017 No.9297997

>>9297974
While there's definitely some great fascist writers, there has never been an even moderately good right 'libertarian' writer. Seriously it's like a brain disease that prevents you from writing anything except wish fulfilment pulp with dubious political undertones.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:17:44 2017 No.9298024 >>9297447 /lit/ BTFO

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 00:24:23 2017 No.9298043
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>>9297456
>co-opt some of Hamsun's work
>co-opt
He was just a straight up nazi sympathizer. Though he was of course a Norwegian nationalist and romanticist, he supported the German occupation government and nazi Germany as it provided a counterweight to the anglo-saxon world and international capitalism (which he considered to be extremely degenerate, a view he formed well before the war, see "Fra Det Moderne Amerikas Aandsliv" (1889)).

In a lot of ways, I believe he was right in this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:08:16 2017 No.9298213 >>9297393 >create an ideology that glorifies war >cause your nation to declare war in everyone else >lose >get killed This is the power of fascist "intellectuals"

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:13:01 2017 No.9298230 File: 27 KB, 334x500, Democracy,_the_God_that_Failed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9297997 Hoppe is one of our time's greatest intellectuals.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:13:54 2017 No.9298231 >>9298230 >neofeudalism >intellectual

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:16:10 2017 No.9298239 >>9297447 When I hear the word "culture," that's when I release the safety catch on my Browning!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:21:37 2017 No.9298256 >>9298230 I regret every second I wasted on that screed

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:24:31 2017 No.9298265 >>9297393 Because there is no greater topic than freedom.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:32:33 2017 No.9298284 Mercia Eliade

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:35:36 2017 No.9298290 >>9297459 Heidegger was fucked and hardly a Nazi. He fucked Hannah Arendt multiple times (a Jewish woman fyi) and maintained his love for her through letters. He further maintained a friendship with a Viktor Frankl another Jewish man.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:37:43 2017 No.9298295 >>9298290 >He has Jew friends so he's not a Nazi Kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:39:59 2017 No.9298299 >>9298290 a lot of nazis had jewish wives. hell, there were jewish exceptions all through the regime.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:43:30 2017 No.9298316 File: 104 KB, 622x795, 1396121705-il-giorno-di-agamben.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9298299 >a lot of jewish exceptions I'm not doubting you, I know about Hitler's commander, for example, just laughing at the phrasing

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:51:45 2017 No.9298351

>>9297974
that's not true.
the history man by malcom bradbury is a satiric novel lampooning marxists when marxism was actually accepted within academia. the liberal positivists won that culture war. ask any academic who taught in the late 60s/70s.
are you one of these people who think left liberals are secret marxists? that's some red scare shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 01:52:44 2017 No.9298358 It's shit like any other ideology.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:05:10 2017 No.9298393 >>9297804 Jünger was just an old guard German. It's said he was associated with a couple of the Officers who tried to whack Hitler during Valkyrie.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:13:19 2017 No.9298417 >>9298393 you can be a fascist and hate hitler though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 02:29:49 2017 No.9298449 >>9297475 And his work under the Nazis was all about undermining Weimar

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:09:26 2017 No.9298537 >>9298290 >implying Heidegger didn't oppose Judaism on a metaphysical level

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:12:19 2017 No.9298544 >>9298417 Jünger was more of a Prussian individualist who became disillusioned with the lack of functional elitism in German society. He would have been happy under the Kaiser.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 03:58:45 2017 No.9298640 probably because it's facist you fucking dunce

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 04:28:35 2017 No.9298688 >>9298043 I recommend reading On Overgrown Paths if you haven't. Hamsun wrote it after the war when everybody had turned on him and either treated him like shit or like a senile old man.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 06:29:38 2017 No.9298931 >>9297393 Don't you usually discard trash?

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 06:39:49 2017 No.9298966

George Orwell has written a good essay on the topic. But intelligently wrote down some ideas instead of spouting drivel bashing fascism. None of you leftist indoctrinated cucks even know what fascism is, you simply use it as an insult. Look up the 25 principles of The German nazi party. You will agree with at least 20 of them.

Also Ezra pound. Great b8

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 06:40:59 2017 No.9298968 fascist "literature"? never heard of him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 06:50:36 2017 No.9298990 >>9298966 >look up principles of almost any party anywhere. you will find yourself agreeing with almost all of them, because they are universally platitudes by design fascists are dunderheads and they dont see it

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 06:58:53 2017 No.9299000 So from a Marxist viewpoint, fascists are worse than anarcho-capitalists, yes? Because a fascist state enforces capitalism and helps corporations?

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:03:43 2017 No.9299010

>>9297395
>>9297416
>>9297435

Fascism has a better track record than Communism. Not only did it work miracles on the places that did it, their kill count against other nations was amazing.

Meanwhile communist countries killcount is mostly against themselves from being stupid.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:04:05 2017 No.9299012

>>9298990
Evidently not. With all the loathing on Marxism i have

This is such a frivolous topic. Literature is an intrinsic thing. People would produce much better literature from a prosperous and homogenous fascist society than from a "utopic" breadline or in a field at gun point

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:06:56 2017 No.9299017 >>9298966 >None of you leftist indoctrinated cucks even know what fascism is, you simply use it as an insult. funny that, you'll do the same with marxism

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:11:02 2017 No.9299024 >>9299017 It's hard for people not to know what Marxism is since retarded cucks never shut up about it. Your argument would work if people didn't have to tell you why abolition of property is a stupid idea like once a day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:11:23 2017 No.9299026 >>9299010 >my ideology is better than yours because it killed more people

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:11:32 2017 No.9299028 >>9299010 > Not only did it work miracles on the places that did it are we doing the whole "hitler made germany really rich guys it wasn't just short term prep for war economy" thing again

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:15:04 2017 No.9299031 >>9299012 I don't think either of those societies would produce much good literature.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:15:21 2017 No.9299033 >>9299024 >retarded c*cks go a whole day without using that insult, just give it a shot >abolition of property is a stupid idea yeah exactly how will i be able to jerk it to anime fashy traps in wheatfields if not for my own personal computer

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:20:51 2017 No.9299038 >>9299028 10 times better then under the jewish banks and conglomerate of jewish factory and business owners.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:21:52 2017 No.9299040 >>9299017 I'm very educated on left wing politics. Shame you can't do the same for right wing. How cant someone be educated on it. You cunts never shut the fuck up about it While I know you will not be able to define fascism, nor national socialism

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:22:34 2017 No.9299044 >>9297393 I'm also very intrested in facist writers. Probably the allies burned most of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:24:19 2017 No.9299047 >>9297431 Should i read this writers books?

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:25:45 2017 No.9299052

>>9297393
Because the modern dominant morality is a specific kind of secular humanism intertwined with liberal progressivism, which is vehemently opposed to fascist and fascist-like views.
Which means that:
A) People who are brought up in this system are going for the most part to follow that kind of morality which makes them feel disgust or a general sense of opposition towards the values and the currents of thought that fascist writers espouse, if they ever read them at all, which happens very rarely since they're conditioned since the cradle to avoid them.

B) Praising a fascist writer is going to be costly in terms of social capital. In fact, in order to do so, people often try to paint those writers, philosophers and so on as liberal as they can. See for example Kaufman and Nietzsche.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:26:00 2017 No.9299055 >>9299033 Was that supposed to be irony?

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:28:40 2017 No.9299060

>>9299047
He is a poet. Not a entry level poet either. He lived in Paris and was quite notorious at the time. He helped t.s. Eliot. James Joyce and Ernest Hemingway get themselves to where they ended up

He did a lot of stuff for modern poetry. He had a bit of an imagery movement going on. Worth reading. Not entry level however

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:31:03 2017 No.9299063 >>9299010 worked miracles by tearing their beloved nations apart through war? I don't think kill count should be the measurement of a good government. this is the kind of opaque thinking which makes fascists silly, damaged, dress-up human beings.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:31:04 2017 No.9299064

>>9299052
So, basically, what happens is this:
- people are encouraged not to read fascist writers
- if they read them, they're predisposed to not liking them
- if they like them, it's tacitly suggested to them to not praise them or if they do that, to try to paint them as not really fascists
- all of this results in "experts" and academics avoiding putting fascist works into curricula of any kind, which makes fewer people read them

And then the self-reinforcing loop starts back from the beginning

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:32:05 2017 No.9299068

>>9299040
fascism is certainly not the same as national socialism, that much i can assure you.

fascism was a third positionary movement arising from the futurist art movement. it was entirely focused on the rising both capitalist and communist perspectives, advocating class collaboration, a strong authoritarian leader (IL DVCE), and ultimately an attempt to revive the roman empire. fascism is entirely italian.

natsoc, whilst similar in this aim to fascism, ultimately served as nothing more than a corporatist and reactionary authoritarian government after the dissolution of the SA. it was nothing more than a vehicle for hitler to project his estranged and misplaced desire for racial purity and the destiny of the german people.

does that about sum it up

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:33:38 2017 No.9299071

>>9299038
interestingly enough, a good deal of hitler's best corporatist buddies and lobbyists were jewish, and they STILL maintained a good deal of wealth and control well into the nazi regime. there was a great greentext explaining it all that i'm trying to find, bear with me.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:34:17 2017 No.9299072

>>9299063

1. Every political ideology ever to have national power has seen war. Getting into a war is not indicative of the quality of an ideology.
2. Every political ideology of worth has produced effective results. Those that aren't, like communism, haven't. Going from the worst position in the great depression to being technologically and militarily superior to all your rivals is an indicative result of political ideology at work.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:36:54 2017 No.9299080
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>>9299040
Just go on /pol/ and ask. I'm not 100% but facism comes from national syndicalism. It's basically the bolsehvik revolution without killing your own people. Insted they put the nations people and family structures first. Many socialist joined the nationalist facists in Italy. They want corporatism where all work together, the state and people without a elite. First ideology to break from an elite controlled country. That's why jews and rotschild hated the ideology so mutch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:38:58 2017 No.9299086 >>9299060 okey thanks

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:39:44 2017 No.9299090

>>9299072
I didn't say war was the measurement of quality. I said, they tore their nations apart through war-mongering. that's not producing a miracle.
they were so militarily superior that a bunch of rowdy, haphazard lads from largely agrarian economies dismantled them. hm, methinks the lady dost protest too much.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:40:36 2017 No.9299093

>>9299040

>I'm very well read in fantasies about a utopian government which has never once worked in the history of ever without collapsing in on its own stupidity

KEKE

Congratulations, you're like a pastor at a meeting for quantum physicists. That's the equivalent for a leftard talking politics.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:42:11 2017 No.9299095

>>9299090

The power of Nazism caused a nation to go to war with the world and almost win.

Communism decimated its own population and ruined its nations until they had to capitulate and become capitalist. Marx was wrong, face it, capitalism is the end-game of communism because COMMUNISTS ARE FAILURES HAHAHHAHAHAH

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:43:51 2017 No.9299102 >>9299093 I would realy want to se a real facist state today, hopefully left alone by the jews. Would be fun to compare it to old red nations.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:44:04 2017 No.9299105

>>9299040

>I'm very educated on left wing politics.

Ohhh wooww, you read the Communist Manifesto? How enlightening. Why not join us in the world of right wing politics and read all of world history. There's a bit more than 2 books written on it and unlike "left wing politics" it has not only worked at least once, its worked for thousands of years.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:45:31 2017 No.9299109 >>9299095 Thats what happens when you listen to a guy who never had a job in his life and who's greatest life achievement was dodging paying rent and living in Engel's mom's basement.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:47:01 2017 No.9299112 >>9299095 This nazism is the best ideology. We just need to rebrand and call us something else so peoole understand that the general ideas are good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:47:04 2017 No.9299113 >>9299095 the nazis didn't win though. so much for this fetishised power. communism lasted well into the 90s. if you're so intent on comparison, I don't think failure or longevity should be your metric. the fascists loose on both counts.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:50:27 2017 No.9299119

>>9299113

>the nazis didn't win though. so much for this fetishised power.

Oh wow, the power of Nazism was just barely not strong enough to force the entire world into capitulation.

You sure proved them wrong!.

>communism lasted well into the 90s.

HAHAHAH it sure did. Looks like fucking paradise, doesn't it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8LtQhIQ2AE

>I don't think failure or longevity should be your metric

Fascism didn't fail, Germany was defeated and forced to resign it. Being defeated militarily is not the same thing as being economically illiterate and running your nation and its population into the ground, but I wouldn't expect a communist to know anything about that considering they still think its a good idea when they've seen what it does.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:52:09 2017 No.9299121

>>9299113
I think they won where it mattered, geting rid of jews. The bolsehviks where full of jews and it ended with 60 million dead white Christinas, where the main executer where jewish. Churchill where a jewish rotschild puppet and warmonger. USA is the land of the jews.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:54:38 2017 No.9299127 >>9299119 >that video >the despair in those eyes Fuck i realy hate jews

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:57:30 2017 No.9299133

>>9297393
Always people asking after or trying to discuss fascist literature, but always so few actually recommend outside Hamsun, Celine, and then a few (very poor) suggestions that Mishima or Junger were fascist. So it isnt discarded, it is just that actual literature of quality that isnt penny-pulp blood and soil novels from the 30s or StormPress trash is actually produced.

>>9299010
He asked if you had read any fascist literature faggot, not your shitty political opinions. Suggest some works of quality that arent huge stretches. Actual fascist literature.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:57:58 2017 No.9299136 >>9299095 >The power of Nazism caused a nation to go to war with the world and almost win. You really believe they almost won?

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:58:29 2017 No.9299140

>>9299119
yes, by definition their "power" was insufficient. the allies were also not "the world". your lederhosen is a bit big for you there.
what it looks like is not relevant. communism was more successful than fascism as an ideology as evident by it's longevity.
oh? so the war didn't run the german economy, people, and infrastructure into the ground? I wonder how the survivors of Dresden would feel about that claim.
I'm not a communist, so I don't really understand the non-sequitur. is apart of liking fascism dividing the world up into communists and non-communists?
are you incapable of complex thought?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:59:36 2017 No.9299143 >>9299133 *isnt actually produced

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 07:59:49 2017 No.9299145 >>9299068 >does that sum it up No, hitler diden't go to war. The world went to war with hitler.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:00:45 2017 No.9299146 >>9299121 the cognition of defeat is fascinating.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:00:56 2017 No.9299147

>>9299133

I know Communists are some of the most mentally ill people on the planet(moreso than furries or trannies) but you could try start reading.

Anything.

If you ever read anything of value in your life you'd reach a point you'd discover the philosophy of Hegel and Kant, the both of which inspired much of Marxism AND Fascism.

Hope this helps you illiterate retard!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:02:12 2017 No.9299151 Hitler did nothing wrong and neoreaction is the most vitalistic and life affirming system we will see until the end of industry itself

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:03:06 2017 No.9299154

>>9299140

>communism was more successful

Stopped reading there. Communism is the most unsuccessful ideology of all time. It has a track record of 0 for nations that didn't implode under its retarded ideals.

>so the war didn't run the german economy, people, and infrastructure into the ground?

Fascism doesn't have a cornerstone of "start wars with the world." Communists and Capitalists allied to bring down what was the most powerful force in the world at its time. Has little to do with Fascism aside from the fact that it worked so well it scared its neighbors.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:03:23 2017 No.9299156 >>9299140 >you measure a ideologies sucess on it's longevity Are you incapable of complex thouget?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:03:45 2017 No.9299159 File: 279 KB, 800x634, bookburning.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's the fascists who discard literature mein freund

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:04:25 2017 No.9299161

>>9299147
You didnt suggest a book. You made a personal attack void of content. But since you are so fucking ideologically pure, please suggest 5 works that arent vague suggestions about Heidegger or listing "Hamsun" or "Celine". Every fucking right wing thread I go to has the same works, not all garbage, but just repeats of the same 5-10 books. A few non-fiction or philosophical works, Mein Kampf, and the ones I listed above. Show some originality and breadth of knowledge and give me a list of 5 fascist works that arent obviously a speech my goebbels or mosley.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:04:37 2017 No.9299162 >>9299159 There is nothing wrong with burning Communist propaganda. Nothing good has ever come from that literature.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:05:33 2017 No.9299167

>>9299154
>Communists and Capitalists allied to bring down what was the most powerful force in the world at its time. Has little to do with Fascism aside from the fact that it worked so well it scared its neighbors
They only did so after the fascists started wars against them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:05:41 2017 No.9299168 >>9299161 >suggest authors to help the retarded communist learn a little about the real world >"B-B-BUT I CAN ONLY HANDLE 1 BOOK" Do you need pictures in it too you retarded Communist fuck?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:05:44 2017 No.9299169 File: 1.59 MB, 800x1200, 1482495189624.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >implying

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:06:14 2017 No.9299170 >>9299162 150 years later and classical economics still cannot refuse Marx.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:08:17 2017 No.9299176 >>9299170 Reality refuted Marx

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:08:44 2017 No.9299178 >>9299162 Kafka and Freud are Marxist propaganda now?

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:08:55 2017 No.9299179

>>9299154
Cuba is better off than almost every other Latin American country. That's a minimum of one, and you could go higher depending on how you want to account for the east asian states that never imploded but also are no longer practicing communism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:10:22 2017 No.9299180 >>9299161 He could have done it if the jews diden't burn all literature and made it into a tabu to write from the facist view of things. And also made it impossible for facist writers to make their work known.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:10:29 2017 No.9299181

>>9299176
Associating Marx with 20th century communist regimes and not the labor movement of the 19th century is deliberate smearing and propaganda. If you live in Western Europe, you own your whole life standard and the fact that you're not working 12 hours a day in a factory to the labor movement, which has been spearheaded by communists, anarchists and socialists since day 1.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:11:12 2017 No.9299186 >>9299167 hahahahahaha

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:11:29 2017 No.9299187 >>9299168 >he asks for 5 books >"why can't you handle more than one book" ???

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:11:51 2017 No.9299188

>>9299154
and yet, it clearly was more successful than fascism.

it doesn't? so what did marinetti mean when he wrote of war: "the world's only hygiene"? then again, I think hitler said it best: "What good fortune for governments that the people do not think".

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:11:56 2017 No.9299189 File: 236 KB, 200x200, hysterical laugh.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9299179 >Cuba is better off than almost every other Latin American country.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:12:06 2017 No.9299191 >>9299179 Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:12:25 2017 No.9299193 >>9299179 facism>comunism>capatalism

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:13:46 2017 No.9299199 >>9299180 >>9299186 >>>/stormfront/ learn history, revisionist faggots

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:14:49 2017 No.9299201 File: 16 KB, 500x435, adolftip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9299193 >facism >comunism >capatalism >>9299189 >>9299191 Latin America is shit in general but he's not wrong

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:14:54 2017 No.9299202 >>9299188 >yet, it clearly was more successful than fascism. Clearly, if we ignore facts and evidence that says otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:15:20 2017 No.9299203 >>9299186 >Invade countries guaranteed by capitalist powers >break nonaggression pact and invade major communist country >Ally attacks capitalist power while you've been bombing that county's major Ally. >But why do they conspire against us?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:15:22 2017 No.9299204 >>9299181 >anarchists >workers union explain

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:15:23 2017 No.9299205

>>9299145
>>9299145
no, hitler FULLY intended for war with anyone constituting even a minute resistance against his ebin grossgermania

hence the autobahn, hence the remilitarization, hence the munich agreement, hence gobbling up the czechs, hence the invasion of poland

"oh b-b-but the uk and france declared war on him!!!!" yes just after they had guaranteed poland's independence, which hitler had just invaded

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:16:25 2017 No.9299207 >>9299102 there's about two pseudo-fascist states in the world, can you guess what they are

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:17:07 2017 No.9299209 >>9299204 There is nothing to explain. Anarchists do believe in organizational structures and thus played a big role in the labor movement. Most modern anarchists are more individualists and I absolutely despise them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:18:08 2017 No.9299213 >>9299207 North Korea and Israel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:18:38 2017 No.9299214 >>9299202 like fascism was defeated by farm boys? I think facts left about 5 posts ago.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:18:52 2017 No.9299215 >>9299203 Soviet, se video https://youtu.be/ClR9tcpKZec Poland was viewed as a none country. Germany was split in two. The stretch of land germany wanted was nearly only populated with germans.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:19:24 2017 No.9299217 File: 679 KB, 683x988, meme5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9299201

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:19:45 2017 No.9299219 >>9299213 ding ding ding we have a winner

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:20:35 2017 No.9299221

>>9299205

You understand very little about economics but as a communist that was a given. Germany was making moves to take land it needed to compete with the empires that held it down. There was no other way to accomplish that kind of power in a post-Versailles Germany than to roll the dice. Russia was already planning to betray Germany and so it was in their minds better to strike by surprise than to let Russia arm and fight them prepared. But right, tell me more about how the world's leader in technology failed economically because it's country was in a troublesome position politically.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:20:41 2017 No.9299223 >>9299209 How did they "spearhead" the workers union?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:22:19 2017 No.9299225 >>9299219 >communists blame their biggest failures on fascists now I bet Communists think USSR and China were fascist too. All to tell themselves, "I-It will be different this time."

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:23:57 2017 No.9299227 >>9299225 that's the cool thing about loosing. you never have to have your ideas tested by time.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:24:02 2017 No.9299228

>>9299217
It's sad to imagine what kind of world you must live in if everyone you don't like MUST be jewish and part of a conspiracy.

How is this any different from SJW tumblrinas believing all white men are part of a conspiracy to opress them? You and I both know we don't have a 'patriarchy pass' and have meetings each sunday at the 'patriarchy club' to discuss how many women we've performed micro-aggressions against. Why do you think this does apply to jews? Have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe, it's a bit ridiculous?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:24:21 2017 No.9299229 >>9299205 >guaranteed poland's independence Funny how they didn't actually preserve it, huh.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:25:10 2017 No.9299230

>>9299189
>>9299189
And yet you can't refute it. Cuba has the second best health care and the fourth lowest poverty rate in latin america, as well as universal high-quality education. You can say that's not very impressive, but it still raises the question of how the only communist state in a large cultural region ended up being one of its most successful without economic or diplomatic ties to what has been the world's foremost superpower for the entirety of its current iteration.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:25:21 2017 No.9299232
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>>9299201
>he's not wrong
Yes, he is.
According to the World Bank and OECD analysis only Nicaragua, Honduras, and Haiti have a lower per capita PPP GDP.
Toss in political freedom indexes, personal freedom indexes, etc. and Cuba is such a shithole only Venezuela (another Commie pest hole) and Haiti are worse off.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:25:26 2017 No.9299233
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>>9299223
Anarchists, socialist and communists have always been the most militant and most eager to organize strikes and so on. Why else do you think communists are so obsessed with imagery of workers? They even put tools on their flags.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:26:18 2017 No.9299235

>>9299227

Well, fascism was working pretty well, but we'll never know how it will work over time.

Communism never worked, its the biggest failure of an ideology surpassing even Islam, and that's a pretty massive fucking failure! Somehow, though, there consists a wide blanket of people in the world stupid enough to actually want to try it again. These people should be euthanized.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:26:49 2017 No.9299237 >>9299225 t. tankie

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:26:53 2017 No.9299238 >>9299215 >Poland was viewed as a none country I'm sure the Polish that fought against them and the states that guaranteed it felt that way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:28:01 2017 No.9299240 >>9299238 They felt that way enough to leave it to be raped by mongolian savages.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:28:11 2017 No.9299242 >>9299230 obviously the jewish banking system has been giving them money. haven't you heard, the bolsheviks have an invested interest in making communism look good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:28:59 2017 No.9299244 >>9299242 >jews are both communists and the wealthy elite really, really makes me think

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:29:35 2017 No.9299246 >>9299235 consider: the year in which the ussr fell apart also consider: the year in which nazi germany lost the only war it fought

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:30:00 2017 No.9299247 >>9299235 yes, we'll never know because it's such a failure, it never got out of the crib.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:31:31 2017 No.9299250 >>9299244 don't think too hard. remember, hitler said not to.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:33:28 2017 No.9299251
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>>9299060
Any suggestions on where to start with Pound? I assume the cantos are tough going so I don't want to dive right in there or is it worth just getting stuck into them?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:35:30 2017 No.9299258 >>9299246 You're right anon, clearly Islam is the most superior form of Government because it lasted the longest.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:36:49 2017 No.9299261 >>9299247 Yeah, such a failure it revolutionized the world with its technology and advancement. Such a failure that the only way it got brought down was for the world to ally to destroy it :^)

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:37:16 2017 No.9299265
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>>9299228
>no meetings
pic related

I'm from a very jewish controlled nation. I know about the jews.

And i guess you are from america? America goes to war to protect jewish bank familes intrestes, i think that is enough to say.

All money is also debt our monetary system is a jewish one making sure that banks controll all the wealth. If you are to belive the rumors jews don't use money. They create money from thin air when they use their cards.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:37:50 2017 No.9299266 >>9299233 But anarchist specifically

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:38:04 2017 No.9299268 >>9299258 >islam is a government now WEW

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:38:04 2017 No.9299269 >>9299250 >>9299247 >>9299246 >>9299244 >>9299242 Phoneposters need to leave.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:38:41 2017 No.9299271

>>9299235
>Well, fascism was working pretty well, but we'll never know how it will work over time
It only proved that it's not capable of long-term existence.

>>9299246
>the year in which nazi germany lost the only war it fought
Winning less wars than fascist Italy is quite impressive.

>>9299251
Read his earlier work. The Cantos are worthless.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:38:55 2017 No.9299273

>>9299244

In order for Jews to rule you'd need to dispose of Romanovs. You don't think the leaders of post revolutionary Russia were actually egalitarians, did you? Communists are so stupid and gullible lol. Blind faith even as they are starved to death.

Communism is worse than any religion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:39:00 2017 No.9299274 >>9299232 Gonna need sources since according to http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?year_high_desc=true and http://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?DataSetCode=PDB_LV neither of those organizations even tracks Cuba's GDP per capita.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:39:34 2017 No.9299276

>>9299230
see
>>9299232
Stop repeating the BS party line out of Cuba. -- -Cuban health care is substandard and requires fees.
-Cuba defines the poverty rate internally so that it is effectively zero but according to outside analysis only Venezuela and Haiti have larger percentages of people in poverty
I do love that you are ignoring the secret police, death squads, universal surveillance, strict rationing, life-long dictatorship, single-party totalitarian rule and shouting 'but they can all read!'.
Are you the sort that thinks a population of semi-hungry slaves that knows geometry is better off than a society of free men with their own land and are free to choose their destiny but 40% of them don't know geometry?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:40:50 2017 No.9299282 >>9299268 It is. Islam has it own goverment system with leaders, judges and officials

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:41:01 2017 No.9299285 >>9299268 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_state Educate yourself, communist.(Warning: education will lead to loss of belief in communism)

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:42:27 2017 No.9299286 >>9299269 Best posting is phone posting. Sitting in the sun right now and taking it easy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:42:30 2017 No.9299287 >>9299274 struggle with math, do you? http://data.worldbank.org/country/cuba

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:42:47 2017 No.9299290 >>9299271 I agree, longevity is the only true metric for success. This is why Islam is the most superior form of government in the world. Communists btfo

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:43:35 2017 No.9299291 >>9299276 see >>9299274 I love that you are ignoring that every Latin American country except Mexico, Uruguay, and Costa Rica does all of that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:43:59 2017 No.9299293 >>9299290 Woulden't tribalism be older?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:44:15 2017 No.9299294 >>9299274 This was a 9 second google search http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/cuba/gdp-per-capita

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:44:34 2017 No.9299296 >>9299290 Or monarchy

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:45:05 2017 No.9299297 >>9299290 or feudal

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:45:51 2017 No.9299300 >>9299261 in other words: a failure.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:46:16 2017 No.9299301 >>9299290 It's not the only one, but it is significant one. It's hard to claim an unsustainable form of government is the best one. Also, Islam isn't a government, and >>9299285 does not prove that.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:46:54 2017 No.9299305

>>9299293
>>9299296
>>9299297

All wrong. None of these held longer standing nations than that of Islamic government.

Thus, despite being a scourge on the world, clearly we can see, Islam is the most superior form of government over all. Communism could only hope to be as amazing as Islam, but it couldn't even last a century. Sad!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:47:15 2017 No.9299307 >>9299301 it is. >>9299282

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:48:12 2017 No.9299312 >>9299305 Samic have the same system for 5000 years. Before islam was created

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:48:43 2017 No.9299316 >>9299301 >It's hard to claim an unsustainable form of government is the best one Funny seeing a communist say that >>9299300 Just like Communism. Thankfully unlike Communism we have a ton of technology thanks to Fascists.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:49:22 2017 No.9299318

>>9299265
>corporations rule the world
>jews are overrepresented in corporate leadership
Maybe, /pol/, just maybe you need to accept that jews are superior if they end up overrepresented amongst the elite? Or do you need white quotas and affirmative action now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:50:12 2017 No.9299322 >>9299133 >and then a few (very poor) suggestions that Mishima or Junger were fascist Yeah, they were clearly liberals.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:50:22 2017 No.9299325 >>9299316 too bad about the crushing moral and physical defeat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:50:32 2017 No.9299326 >>9299285 fun fact: literal communists are fighting ISIS as we speak while /pol/acks jerk off to hentai in their mother's basement

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:50:53 2017 No.9299328 >>9299318 >white quotas Jews are white.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:51:03 2017 No.9299329 >>9299305 the minoan where a monarchy in 1800 years. That longer then islam.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:51:39 2017 No.9299332 >>9299325 Hey, better to die on your feet than to live malnourished abused and betrayed by your national leaders before dying in the name of Communism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:52:04 2017 No.9299333 >>9299328 no they are not, they are semetic. It's like saying an arab is white.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:52:25 2017 No.9299334

>>9299287
Apparently you do since that comes out greater than the Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Colombia, Peru, Belize, El Salvador, Paraguay, Guatemala, Bolivia, Honduras, and Nicaragua.
>>9299294
Not my point. The point is that anon pulled those sources out of his ass, because neither directly tracks Cuban GDP per capita, and when you go in and do the math yourself, it doesn't corroborate his claim.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:52:42 2017 No.9299335 File: 976 KB, 320x180, he doesn't know.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9299291 Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, and Peru have single party states, death squads, and universal surveillance? Really?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:52:43 2017 No.9299336 >>9299326 >communists are so jealous that Islam is a better form of government they are trying to destroy it

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:52:53 2017 No.9299337 >>9299332 better to die? what a strange contradiction.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:53:01 2017 No.9299338 >>9299322 It is possible to be a reactionary and not be a fascist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:53:26 2017 No.9299341 >>9299333 Ashkenazi jews are white.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:53:30 2017 No.9299343 >>9298688 I actually have not, I will be visiting home soon and my parents have his entire oeuvre so there'll be plenty of time for it this summer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:54:08 2017 No.9299344 >>9299338 I know, I am one. Still, when it comes to mishima, I don't see how calling him a fascist is particularly uncharitable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:54:25 2017 No.9299345 >>9299335 Until very recently, all except Uruguay (which I listed as an exception) did. And Argentina will again soon at the rate it's going.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:55:50 2017 No.9299351

>>9299318
The thing is the corrupt jewish bank system and monetary system. If the field was equal whites would win. Also jews are realy stupid when you do a proper iq test. When you measure the ability to solve problems insted of languagish. Tests like mensa do.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:56:25 2017 No.9299355

>>9299290
>longevity is the only true metric for success
The Capetian Dynasty alone lasted a millennia.
The longest Islamic rule was the Ottomans, which was only about 600 years.
Muslim dynasties vanish like mayflies compared to Catholic monarchies of Chinese dynasties.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:56:51 2017 No.9299357 >>9299341 They are not. They interbreed with semetic jews they are still semetic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 08:57:27 2017 No.9299358 >>9299294 It is your point that is a direct PPP GDP per capita Remember - you have to use proxies because Cuba refuses to release any proof of their economic claims, education claims, etc!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:02:33 2017 No.9299366 >>9299357 https://www.google.com.au/amp/amp.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:03:05 2017 No.9299368
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>>9299305
>None of these held longer standing nations than that of Islamic government.
BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Holy Roman Empire
>lasted 50% longer than the Ottomans, the longest-lasting Muslim dynasty
Capetian Dynasty *alone*
>Lasted almost twice as long as the Ottomans
Roman/Eastern Roman Empire
>Lasted so long Islam as a religion is barely older than its duration - 3 times the length of the Ottomans
There are many more nations founded before Islam existed that are still around, pal, if you want to get as pedantic as possible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:03:36 2017 No.9299370 >>9299344 I guess I'm speaking more in terms of Junger. His politics stem more from the Prussian monarchy than the brownshirts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:04:07 2017 No.9299372 >>9299345 >"No" FTFY

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:05:33 2017 No.9299378 >>9299368 >H >R >E

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:05:57 2017 No.9299379 >>9299366 >atleast >may hahahahaha

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:06:59 2017 No.9299383 >>9299379 >>>/pol/

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:07:36 2017 No.9299386

Facism in its modern incarnationationis generally a reactionary force against modernism, fueled by the animating myth of avoiding the final cataclysm of the Kali Yuga.

Facists are generally concerned with the dire need for political activism and action rather than more passive activities like writing and philosophising.

In saying that there's some amazing "facist" literature to be read.

Read all of Evola starting with Revolt Against The Modern World, then read The Lightning and The Sun by Savitri Devi.

Imperium by Francis Parker Yockey also comes to mind, as does George Lincoln Rockwell (This Time The World)

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:07:47 2017 No.9299387 >>9299372 Cuba last used death squads in the early 2000s. Argentina, Chile, and Peru last used them in the 90s. Sorry if I don't find the difference to be a convincing argument for the superiority of the latter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:08:42 2017 No.9299390 >>9299366 Even in your bullshit article they say 80% of male jewish dna come from semetic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:09:56 2017 No.9299397 >>9299386 t. RTNT

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:10:09 2017 No.9299399

>>9299329
>>9299312

>"Communism is the best! It lasted longer!"
>Ignore the obvious implication this means every other form of governance is better than Communism
>Give an example of one of the worlds shittiest ideologies(surpassed only by Communism as an epic failure)
>"Y-yeah well people used other ideas contradictory to Communism just as long, if not longer!"

Come on now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:11:30 2017 No.9299407 >>9299337 Yes, its better to die to a bullet than to die of starvation. >>9299368 HRE didn't last 1400 years bud. You should pick up a history book sometime.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:11:42 2017 No.9299408 File: 85 KB, 599x454, Yagoda.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9299383 They diden't show a dna map first of all. And in your article they said 80% of male lineage is semetic. So kikes aren't white they are a subrace.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:12:33 2017 No.9299409 >>9299399 What?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:12:56 2017 No.9299411 >>9299383 >>/reddit/

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:14:00 2017 No.9299414 >>9299409 >>9299368 I wasn't genuinely saying Islam is a good form of government. I'm making an example of why "Communism lasted longer" is a stupid argument as to the quality of its government. Fuck you people are dumb.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:15:36 2017 No.9299424 >>9299414 Yeah i know. But i still wanted to put up som exampels.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:17:08 2017 No.9299431 >>9299407 I didn't say it did. I said it last about 50% longer than the Ottomans. The Ottomans lasted about 600 years 150% of 600 is NOT 1400, is it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:18:36 2017 No.9299438 >>9299414 you wrote >None of these held longer standing nations than that of Islamic government. That's fucking wrong If you were trying to make a point it was drowned out by your retardation

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:20:13 2017 No.9299440 >>9299407 there you go again worshiping death. surely it's better not to die at all

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:20:54 2017 No.9299443 >>9299431 Islamic government stayed the norm everywhere in the Muslim world for over 1400 years. Ottomans, Abbasids, the both of these used the same form of Government.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:22:08 2017 No.9299447 >>9299438 Okay, you got fucking told and so you backpedaled into a semantic argument which is factually wrong about HRE. You do you, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:22:31 2017 No.9299449 >>9299370 Jünger absolutely believed in National Revolution and the reorganisation of society and the economy. He was aristocratic but he wasn't of the Prussian elite that hated the common German that typified so much of the malaise of weimar

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:24:25 2017 No.9299456 >>9299443 >America uses the same form of government as Rome >America is 2500 years old Arabs BTFO

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:24:31 2017 No.9299457

Literally because German = Hitler.

"As for the concept of collective guilt, I personally think that it is totally unjustified to hold one person responsible for the behaviour of another person or collective persons. Since the end of World War II I have not become weary of publicly arguing against the collective guilt concept. Sometimes, however, it takes a lot of didactic tricks to detach people from their superstitions. An American woman once confronted me with the reproach, "How can you still write some of your books in German, Adolf Hitler's language?" In response, I asked her if she had knives in her kitchen, and when she answered that she did, I acted dismayed and shocked, exclaiming, "How can you still use knives after so many killers have used them to stab and murder their victims?" She stopped objecting to my writing books in German."

>Victor E. Frankl

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:25:09 2017 No.9299463 >>9299456 this, that guy is going full retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:25:58 2017 No.9299468 >>9299456 That logic might work if United States had actually been a part of Rome.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:27:13 2017 No.9299474 >>9299456 You communists are really some stupid people. Bar none the dumbest people on earth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:27:41 2017 No.9299480 >>9299468 So the arab world is just one continuous nation?

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:29:04 2017 No.9299487

>>9299456

Yeah Roman Republic was so good they got rid of it. Even if you added Roman Republic to the United States it wouldn't add up to just the Ottomans if you want to be a pedantic asshole.

The entire point was that Islam is just as shitty as Communism and it lasted a long time but this obviously went above your empty heads.

You are almost rage inducingly dumb. You can't even perform basic math.

>>9299463

And you samefag too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:30:08 2017 No.9299494 >>9299480 You could say that the most dramatic change about the switch between caliphs was the relocation of its capital, which is exactly the same thing as what HRE did.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:31:24 2017 No.9299498 >>9299487 >>9299474 >>9299468 Not comunist but you are acting like a real retard. I'm an ethnonationalist i did the anti jewposting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:32:53 2017 No.9299501 >>9299494 Hahahaha. You are funny. Guess you could say the same in europe. There was just a shift in rulers. European monarchy have lasted longer then islam as religion then.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:33:03 2017 No.9299502 >>9299487 The senate was never dissolved, famalahmdinejad. Go back to picking sand out of your headwrap and let the world's oldest country take care of the big boy issues.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:33:26 2017 No.9299505 >>9299498 >hurr durr durp roman republic + us lasted longer than islam u so dum Yeah ok dumbfuck next time learn some basic addition and I wont ask you to strangle yourself for being stupid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:34:31 2017 No.9299507 >>9299505 Not me. But he did a perfect example why ypu are retarded.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:35:09 2017 No.9299509

>>9299502

>still being too stupid to realize the entire correlation to islam was to display how shit both it and communism are
>grasping at straws this hard to make retarded arguments like "LOL US IS PART OF ROMAN EMPIRE NOW" to save face from being stupid

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:35:57 2017 No.9299510 File: 1.31 MB, 3190x1845, vittoriale d'annunzio 3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9297758 Everything true, and he also built himself a god-tier house with a Greek theatre and a colossal tomb all for himself and his buddies

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:36:28 2017 No.9299513 >>9299507 Nice projection, samefag

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:36:32 2017 No.9299514 >>9299507 You can't even type straight you are such an angry samefagging asshole.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:37:24 2017 No.9299518 File: 77 KB, 600x598, 1450561358492.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9299513 >>9299514

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:37:32 2017 No.9299519 >>9299509 >being this oblivious to obvious shitposting

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:38:37 2017 No.9299524 File: 72 KB, 735x541, 1472379661457.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9299513 >>9299514 kys

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:40:07 2017 No.9299528

>>9299010

>work miracles
>country in utter ruins
>partitioned, occupied, and subordinated by their non-fascist conquerors
>National identity skullfucked so utterly that even the concept of nationalism remains abhorrent to the population 70 years later

I'd go into Italy as well, but they were so irrelevant under their wonderful fascist leader during WWII that there's no joy in it.

It's amazing to me that people cling so rabidly to an ideology whose only major accomplishment was going down in flames. At least Communism has won wars.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:44:23 2017 No.9299545 >>9299528 >the economic prosperity induced by a nations ideology is irrelevant if somebody bombed it whoa at last i see

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:46:22 2017 No.9299551 >>9299545 This would be a valid point if the post he responded to weren't saying basically the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:48:00 2017 No.9299558 >>9299351 >Also jews are realy stupid when you do a proper iq test. This is so ridiculous, contrary to all data and rationals, that even the act-right don't make that claim.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:48:08 2017 No.9299559

>>9299528
>At least Communism has won wars
Have you ever noticed the size of Russia and the size of Italy on a map?
Also, Italy's results in the WWII are quite controversial, since half the population were partisans who cooperated with Americans in the Liberation

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:48:18 2017 No.9299560

>>9299551

Its because my post was sarcasm, anon. A country could invent the best and most perfect form of government possible, skyrocketing it to forms of success unrivaled, but if it were suddenly captured and destroyed then that doesn't mean the methods that were used to govern it sucked.

His argument is complete shit. Once again, Islam isn't a good form of government because "durrrr durp durp it won wars an lasted a while"

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:50:02 2017 No.9299563 >>9299558 alt-right people*

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:51:02 2017 No.9299567 >>9299168 I believe this is a /pol/ thread and that you dont actually read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:51:21 2017 No.9299569 >>9299560 name one argument against islamic governance other than the fact that it's imperialist and thus multicultural

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:51:26 2017 No.9299571 >>9299558 Even the wiki admit it

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:52:39 2017 No.9299576 >>9299449 >I didnt read Eumswil, the Glass Bees, or On the Marble Cliffs >>9299344 Mishima's concerns were overwhelmingly for aesthetics and traditionalism, especially the aesthetic portions of it. Golden Pavilion is a great example

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:52:44 2017 No.9299577

People are lazy. And they also make decisions based on emotions rather than fact.

Not a fascist (and I find fascism pretty repulsive as an ideology, to be honest), but fascism is one of a number of political views that people aren't willing to seriously engage. Other good examples being anarcho-capitalism or absolute monarchy. You'll basically just get a bunch of strawman arguments and ad hominem attacks as if it's so obvious that liberal democracy is the only way to govern (never mind that history has shown fascism to very easily and organically arise from democracy) and everything else should just be silenced.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:54:18 2017 No.9299584 >>9299560 it would the methods it used to govern made it so weak that it couldn't defend itself

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:55:49 2017 No.9299591 >>9299577 >fascism is one of a number of political views that people aren't willing to seriously engage Maybe in North American Liberal Arts colleges.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:56:29 2017 No.9299593 >>9299576 >implying fascism isn't overwhelmingly aesthetic Fascism is literally just gesamtkunstwerk.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 09:59:39 2017 No.9299612

>>9299569

Well, probably the fact that its dogmatism prevented it from making any advancements. The Ottomans hadn't even industrialized by WW1 and thats largely due to Islamic governance.

>>9299584

Well I wouldn't say Germany was weak at all.

It's also worth noting, though it should be obvious, that declaring war on every country in the world nearly all at once isn't a core tenet of fascism. Everything else worked great.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:00:20 2017 No.9299615 >>9299593 >Fascism is literally just gesamtkunstwerk You're pretty wrong or uninformed

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:00:46 2017 No.9299616

>>9299545

>found your ideology on martial strength
>start a war because your ideology calls for it
>get crushed, ground beneath the heel of democracy and Communism, and humiliated so utterly that your ideology is torn out by the root

How can fascists ever recover?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:01:28 2017 No.9299617 File: 15 KB, 300x180, teddy-006.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9299612 >its dogmatism prevented it from making any advancements. The Ottomans hadn't even industrialized by WW1 I fail to see the issue

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:02:37 2017 No.9299624 >>9299615 Specifically as it pertains to naziism or italian fascism that is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:03:23 2017 No.9299627 >>9299560 "Islam" is a type of government, now? Good lord, are the alt-right uneducated.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:04:29 2017 No.9299630

>>9299616

>>found your ideology on martial strength

Germany did not have the economy or technology it did based on martial strength. Clearly you have a pretty fundamental misunderstanding on the cornerstone of fascism.

They did have the best military in the world for its time though, because fascism just werked.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:05:21 2017 No.9299632 >>9299616 Man... I'm not going to contradict the focal point of your post, but for the first 3 years of war the Axis power were doing great. The fight was totally on an equal footing

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:05:40 2017 No.9299633 >>9299630 so good it got crushed by farmers

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:06:26 2017 No.9299635 >>9299627 it's. Stop being a doctrinaire retarded leftist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:06:41 2017 No.9299637 >>9299633 If by "farmers" you mean it took the entire world to bring down the might of a tiny little fascist nation then yeah.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:06:51 2017 No.9299638 >>9299624 I disagree. Italian fascism has an autonomous and distinguishable style. I don't know about nazism

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:09:10 2017 No.9299646 >>9299627 I'm not the guy you're arguing with, but there absolutely is such a thing as Islamic governance, any religious scholar would tell you as much. I really think you are either being intentionally obtuse or are just uninformed on the subject.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:10:47 2017 No.9299651

>>9299635
>>9299646

Kek, you guys. Categorizing "Islam" as a type of governance is absurdly reductionist. Are we talking about Islamic theocracy? Islamic monarchy? Islamic democracy (inb4 what democracy)?

This is like identifying "Catholicism" as a type of government.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:10:51 2017 No.9299652 >>9299638 They ARE easily distinguishable and separate yes, one being quintessentially "Italian" and one being quintessentially "German", but they are both realizations of the gesamtkunstwerk.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:12:11 2017 No.9299657 >>9299637 >entire world >tiny little and the exaggerations keep growing in the telling of the tale! I'm surprised Jesus (That damn JEW!) himself hasn't joined the fray against the bestest, most powerful ideology.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:12:29 2017 No.9299658 >>9299651 Ummmm. Islam is, at its core, a guide on governance and how to live. The Bible and the Qu'ran are very different. You should try educating yourself on them.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:12:33 2017 No.9299659

>>9299651
I would assume he was talking about historic islamic governance as practiced by the caliphates, yes there are distinct differences in different eras of what is permissible and what is not and such, but that is largely superficial as they all were islamic governed states springing from the same point of origin.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:13:49 2017 No.9299663 >>9299657 >being this mad that the ideology of fascism turns a tiny little 3rd world nation into a leading world power capable of warring everyone on earth simultaneously

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:15:49 2017 No.9299667 >>9299663 and now it's a 3rd world nation for good measure! >tfw when fascists can't parse sarcasm because they don't read

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:15:53 2017 No.9299668 >>9299663 >3rd world Another exaggeration. The North was cutting-edge in the European industrial and cultural landscape.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:16:02 2017 No.9299669 >>9299651 i will just resend you to my earlier >>9299282

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:17:26 2017 No.9299673 >>9299667 he he realy funny. Not

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:19:08 2017 No.9299678 >>9299577 what? Fascism grew out of communism

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:19:27 2017 No.9299679

>>9299630
>They did have the best military in the world for its time though

Germany had the most capable army, and arguably air force, for several years at most, until the Allies leapfrogged past them. Their army was only more capable in the first place because Germany had been actively arming for war for the better part of a decade, while the rest of the world attempted to bury their heads in the sand. Once other nations began arming for war in earnest, Germany quickly fell behind. The Wehrmacht wasn't nearly as mechanized as you wehraboos give it credit for. They used horses extensively throughout the entire war. Horses!

>starting a war with an island empire without a credible invasion plan
>starting a war with the most expansive nation in the world without a long-range strategic bomber
>wasting money on giant battleships that sat in harbors all war or blew up a single battlecruiser before sinking
>churning out a non-stop stream of absurd prototypes instead of picking something that just worked and sticking to it

>>9299637

You say that like the Soviet Union couldn't in all likelihood have defeated Nazi Germany even without external assistance.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:19:32 2017 No.9299680 >>9299668 Germany was destroyed by ww1 and the jews that took advantage of the situation. They where basically a shithole before hitler.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:20:48 2017 No.9299686 >>9299663 >most populous nation in Europe >tiny

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:21:19 2017 No.9299690 >>9299680 nah, Germany used the Jews as an excuse to why they lost the war.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:23:31 2017 No.9299696 >>9299657 Jesus already disagrees. He's obviously an anarcho-monarchist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:23:35 2017 No.9299697 File: 764 KB, 1181x790, DO IT AGAIN BOMBER HARRIS.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9299680 Thank goodness they had Hitler's inspired leadership to transform them from a shithole to the glimmering utopia in pic related.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:25:14 2017 No.9299701 >>9299678 No. >>9299680 I was referring to Northern Italy. Regions like Piedmont, Lombardy, Emilia-Romagna

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:25:37 2017 No.9299702 >muh culture

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:26:38 2017 No.9299704 >>9299701 Yep, and Nazism grew out of what could barely be considered a republic, in very inorganic circumstances

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:28:50 2017 No.9299706 >>9299667 >>9299668 >fascism made the poorest western nation into the richest and most advanced and powerful >communists are literally jealous they've never made one advanced nation >>9299697 communist countries look bombed out without the bombs LOL

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:28:55 2017 No.9299707 >>9299680 all roads lead to nazareth

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:29:55 2017 No.9299708

>>9299679
most armies used alot of horses. Germany was most mechanized in that sense.

>rest of post bbc tier propaganda documentary

War about russia has already been talked about.
>>9299215

>Giant battleship

They actually did a realy good work keeping germany from being blockaded througe sea. Since brits diden't dare to attack them.
>protypes

it's called development, most countries had them. Exept usa that stole evrything from the brits and germans

>starting war

Brits started

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:32:58 2017 No.9299714 >>9299690 Jews where the problem. They owned all factories and business througe a jewish conglomerate. And sold their weapons to the allies from german factories during the war to earn extra money. The more you read up on jews the more you hate them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:37:14 2017 No.9299725 File: 116 KB, 540x720, Kike_devil_vermin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9299707

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:37:26 2017 No.9299726 >>9299714 The Jews were (and in most cases ARE) the exact opposite of Nationalism. They just wanted to live by their own, no matter in which country or under which retarded leader. They leave above-matter. How is this wrong?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:38:28 2017 No.9299728 >>9299726 *live

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:39:36 2017 No.9299732

>>9299706

>richest
>most advanced
>most powerful

Absolutely none of the above.

>They actually did a realy good work

The Graf Spee's captain killed himself in '39, the Bismarck went down in 1941, and the Tirpitz accomplished very little of note before being crippled and eventually sunk by the Brits. The Royal Navy absolutely were not afraid of engaging the Tirpitz. Why would they be, when they'd already sunk the Bismarck successfully? This is absurd revisionist history.

>Brits started

Read a book sometime, anon. All Hitler had to do to avoid Churchill coming to power was not start a war. Previous British governments were nothing if not accommodating.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:40:42 2017 No.9299735 >>9299714 please, you act as if shit like IG Farben didn't exist. If your issue is with unfair market competition, Germany had been culpable long before the war

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:42:00 2017 No.9299738 File: 131 KB, 576x1024, jew_chan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9299726 It's been posted all over the thread. >>9299408 >>9299351 >>9299265 >>9299180

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:42:48 2017 No.9299741 >>9299732 churchill was a jew who hated the success of tiny, third word germany.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:43:01 2017 No.9299742 File: 730 KB, 4156x2508, 119741.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9299735

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:43:27 2017 No.9299744 >>9299741 I recognize that you're just shitposting, but you need to be 18 years of age to use 4chan. Thought I should let you know.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:44:06 2017 No.9299747 >>9299742 >i-it's okay when mein furher does it literally neck yourself

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:44:18 2017 No.9299748 File: 132 KB, 1023x838, barbaraspectrequote.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9299744

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:44:53 2017 No.9299749 File: 651 KB, 1188x1381, 1472145930394.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9299747 Wtf are you talking about kike.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:45:47 2017 No.9299751 >>9299742 If they didn't want an "unfair" treaty, maybe Germany shouldn't have started a pointless war after throwing their weight around for the decade leading up to it. >>9299749 Oy gevalt. Schlomo, they're on to us! Quick, pull the gilded ripcord!

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:46:36 2017 No.9299754
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>>9299749
You can't argue something like that seriously without revealing yourself as coming from a position of ignorance?

You hate the Jews? Fine, but don't expect not to get called out for being a pseud because of it...

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:47:38 2017 No.9299756 >>9299751 hold on now, Germany didn't start WW2

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:48:40 2017 No.9299761 >>9299756 fuck, WW1 i mean lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:49:07 2017 No.9299763 >>9299744 lair

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:50:09 2017 No.9299767 >>9299741 True and terrified shitless of the alpha ideology of fascism

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:51:15 2017 No.9299770 File: 34 KB, 1500x295, image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:52:56 2017 No.9299774
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>>9299751
Hahahaha. Kikes try to eradicate a white people. The bakning jews of germany without regard for the hardship of the german people this deal will lead to. Strikes a very bad deal with the enimes for his own sick and vile jewish interests. Which leads to german starvation and whoring of their own bodies and state. All so kikes can earn some more shekels.

>hahaha germans can blame themselfes, <3 jews

kill yourself discusting vermin

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:53:50 2017 No.9299776 >>9299767 So alpha it lost lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:54:40 2017 No.9299780 >>9299754 Jews are a pest on the world.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:54:49 2017 No.9299781 >>9299751 >Germany >starting ww1 Literally retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:55:07 2017 No.9299785 >>9299780 oh wow, did uncle Gobbels tell you that? ;)

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:55:40 2017 No.9299788

>>9299756
>>9299761
>>9299781

Germany absolutely started WWI. Following to the Agadir and Bosnian crises, France and Russia had resolved that they could not sustain further blows to their influence from Germany. As such, when Germany backed Austria's absurd demand for what amounted to total control over the Serbian state, they touched off a powder keg of their own making.

Germany's antagonizing of Great Britain via a naval arms race was also particularly idiotic, as the High Seas Fleet accomplished virtually nothing during the war besides guaranteeing Britain's entry on the side of France and Russia.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:56:05 2017 No.9299790 >>9299785 The truth did.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:56:17 2017 No.9299791 >>9299774 what about the germans! oh, won't somebody, please, think about the germans!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:57:46 2017 No.9299796 >>9299790 huh really makes you think

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:58:25 2017 No.9299799 >>9299776 >fight 20 guys by yourself falling only before finishing the last 2 >"haha Wat a pussy"

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:59:02 2017 No.9299801 This thread is fucking shit. Suggest some books you fucks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:59:06 2017 No.9299802 >>9299791 Germans > Kikes Kikes shekels < german starvation and destruction of the german nation German passivity > jewish shekls agression and occupation of the banks and market with vile means.

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:59:13 2017 No.9299804

You really have to feel bad for the fascists. It can't be easy to reconcile a militaristic ideology with the complete and utter military humiliation of Germany during WWII.

>>9299799

Fighting an unwinnable fight may not make you a pussy, but it certainly makes you a retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 10:59:54 2017 No.9299807 >>9299799 >Your war crumbles when you start fighting people who can put up a resistance, also everyone hates you. wow what an ideology

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:00:41 2017 No.9299811 >>9299788 >wanting to be treated as an equal warrants total war Those evil fucking Germans.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:00:56 2017 No.9299813 >>9299802 it's almost as if germany wasn't the stronghold thread made it out to be

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:00:58 2017 No.9299814 >>9299802 lol >>9299801 fascism is incapable of producing meaningful art

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:02:09 2017 No.9299815 File: 112 KB, 900x657, aa2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9299814

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:02:51 2017 No.9299820 >>9299807 >half your pop starves to death without even fighting a war, and everyone hates you Wow what an ideology, good job communism

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:03:16 2017 No.9299824 >>9299815 Terrible example, but maybe you can provide some original literature suggestions instead of expounding badly on dated ideology.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:03:28 2017 No.9299825 >>9299815 he said meaningful

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:04:51 2017 No.9299829 >>9299825 What does that mean? Ofc they won't be puting out facist artist in jewyork.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:05:03 2017 No.9299830 >>9299814 People will create art no matter the ideology they live under. You're retarded.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:05:13 2017 No.9299831 >>9299820 communism is shit too, they're basically the same ideology only fascism just acknowledges the need for a central ruling power "above" the populace

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:05:38 2017 No.9299833

>>9299811

As you'd know if you'd ever read a book about this, it wasn't Germany wanting to be treated as an equal which caused the problem. It was Germany constantly throwing their weight around that antagonized France and Russia to the point that they felt they must take a stand or effectively void themselves as credible guarantors.

Germany could easily have defused the entire situation by dictating that Austria-Hungary accept the already impressive concessions in the Serbian proposal. Instead, they agitated for a war which they expected to win in short order, and subsequently buried Europe in shells and corpses for four years.

And really, the massive buildup of the High Seas Fleet was rank idiocy of the highest order, fueled largely by Willie's near-autistic obsession with naval matters. All of that time and money wasted, a powerful enemy made in Great Britain, and for what? A fleet that sat at anchor for four years before scuttling itself. What an absolute waste.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:06:07 2017 No.9299834 >>9299829 it means, that's shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:06:15 2017 No.9299835 >>9299830 prove me wrong!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:06:17 2017 No.9299836 >>9299829 Over the top 20th century blood and soil propaganda is about as meaningful as communist apartment blocs

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:06:37 2017 No.9299838 >>9299824 i actually came here loking for good facist books becuse i don't know any. I don't know any comunist either before you start.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:08:35 2017 No.9299844 >>9299838 didn't you read the thread? there totally was the best art ever done but the jews burnt it all

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:09:03 2017 No.9299846 >>9299836 He looked for art i gave him a work of art? You mean mona lisa is also propaganda becuse it's one of the better paintings of the artist?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:09:41 2017 No.9299848 >>9299844 Yes i wrote it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:10:42 2017 No.9299851 >>9299846 Meaningful art, you just posted some buildings lol

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:11:08 2017 No.9299854
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>>9299838
If you are actually interested, in Richard Evans Third Reich in Power he goes over the publishing industry in Nazi Germany and best sellers, grab the epub. That said many of the "fascist" authors that are posted here did not actually produce great fascist literature. I doubt anyone can call Hunger fascist.

>>9299846
Your art appreciation is as bad as your historical analysis. He said meaningful art, not state produced propaganda devoid of any insight or unique perspective.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:12:05 2017 No.9299858 >>9299854 is he a facist?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:12:56 2017 No.9299864 >>9299854 hey, that was a good movie.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:13:35 2017 No.9299866 >>9299858 I gotta ask my furher before reading, sorry

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:13:48 2017 No.9299868

>>9299858
No but he produces lists of novels that were published and pushed by goebbels. copypasta but:

check out the works of Gottfried Benn, Klaus Mann, Knut Hamsun, Steinbeck, the works of CS Forrester (Horatio Hornblower), and Gone with the Wind (not banned and praised by goebbels)
Kuni Tremel-Eggert’s novel Barb
Paul Coelestin Ettighofer's Verdun, the Supreme Judgment,
Theodor Kröger’s The Forgotten Village,
Karl Aloys Schenzinger’s novel Hitler Youth Quex,
Gottfried Rothacker’s The Village on the Border,
Hans Zöberlein’s Conscience’s Command,
Heinrich Spoerl, such as Burnt Rum and Red Wine Punch
Trygve Gulbranssen’s romances, with titles like And the Woods Sing for Ever and The Legacy of Björndal

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:15:29 2017 No.9299873 File: 93 KB, 655x518, 1483125277433.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9299854 But what does meaninful mean, to who? Unique perspective, it's prety unique and beautiful. Very grand. This is also a common bulding style in the third rich.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:16:21 2017 No.9299874 File: 29 KB, 476x403, pseudoshill.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9299854 forgot pic

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:16:21 2017 No.9299875 >>9299873 why do you keep posting shit?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:17:28 2017 No.9299880 >>9299873 >muh buildings maybe those heebs were on to something when they told Hitler to go to architecture school...?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:22:00 2017 No.9299895 >>9299890 >pol

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:23:03 2017 No.9299901 >>9299833 >france HAD to protect its ally >but germany started the war for doing the same hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:24:30 2017 No.9299906 File: 1.95 MB, 237x240, 1447559665285.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9299895

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:24:40 2017 No.9299907 >>9299895 >reddit

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:25:46 2017 No.9299910 >>9299907 that's literally what pol is these days, yeah... also, since when was raging on pol a redd*t thing?

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:26:40 2017 No.9299911

>>9299576
I didn't say Jünger was fascist, but the notion he was old conservative elite is rubbish, he was literally at the heart of a movement called the "conservative revolutionary s". He reserves his own criticism for the Prussian officers in the marble cliffs when their counterparts visit the brothers house. Jünger wanted radical upheavel of German society

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:30:07 2017 No.9299922

>>9299910

You make no sense.
Reddit is a leftard site, for people like you.

Only newfags who never belonged complain about /pol/. Most people who have been here at least a week learn quick we've flippantly used the word nigger since the beginning of this site.

So, welcome to 4chan, now you have to go back.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:30:47 2017 No.9299924 >>9299922 right all those leftards making r_theDonald so popular XD

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:33:13 2017 No.9299930 >>9299924 >4chan >left choose one

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:33:49 2017 No.9299931 >>9299922 so much revisionism. first nazism, now internet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:35:01 2017 No.9299936 File: 27 KB, 377x325, 1487270702532.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9299930 Watch it, newfag

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:35:27 2017 No.9299938

>>9299924

I guess 4chan should just shut down since every topic has a subreddit already. Which makes everything anyone could ever discuss reddit then, right dumbfuck? Fucking kill yourself faggot, go back to redd!t or cripplechan or whatever other tumblrina shithole you crawled out of.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:36:54 2017 No.9299944 File: 117 KB, 380x380, 1482741256351.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9299938 you sound like a phoneposter

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:37:25 2017 No.9299946 >>9299938 oh you, naughty mouth

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:37:53 2017 No.9299948

>>9299931
>>9299936

I couldn't imagine you guys would ever have hacked it on old 4chan. People just posting "nigger nigger nigger" everywhere probably would have caused you snowflakes a mental breakdown. But go on, tell me how those big nasty racists on /pol/ are a new phenomena to this site.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:38:41 2017 No.9299951 >>9299948 not nigger nigger nigger, how will I ever cope!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:40:54 2017 No.9299959 >>9299948 yeah, well, when we used to do it it used to be a joke

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:45:05 2017 No.9299971 >>9299948 The difference is that old 4chan hadn't been filled with actual white supremacists thanks to a politics board's rampant attraction of edgy right-wing teenagers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:48:59 2017 No.9299983 >>9299971 >>9299959 You guys have a funny interpretation of how it went down. There certainly fucking were people very serious about Nazi fetishism, the only difference is that sensitive snowflakes like you weren't there to cry about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 11:51:47 2017 No.9299991 yeah, well, at least on old 4chan the trains ran on time

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 12:01:33 2017 No.9300025 >>9299959 > dialectically contributing to the rise of e-fascism good job, proto-racist

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 12:17:12 2017 No.9300056

The greatest fascist literature is the high literature of the country in question that occurred during the "golden age" that the fascist wants to harken back too. Hence a modern fascist in Britian would look back to Churchill's history of the english speaking people as a time of cohesive glory and proper behavior. Works like Dawn to Decadence which condemns the current era as being somehow decayed from an ideal. Something like the Sharpe books by Cornwell that idealize the imperial crown. Southern Americans can use narrative revisionist histories like Foote's Civil War to push for southern identity and a golden age of culture and prosperity.

Actual works created by fascist governments always fall short, in part due to censorship and writing by committee.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 12:25:10 2017 No.9300091 >>9300025 i never broke rules 1 and 2 though

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 12:27:06 2017 No.9300100 >>9300056 >Works like Dawn to Decadence which condemns the current era as being somehow decayed from an ideal. Did you read this book?

Anonymous Mon Mar 27 12:29:16 2017 No.9300111
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>>9300100
Ye, I was very impressed by his scholarship, until the last chapter where he basically shook his fist at "the damned kids". Then I read that he was 90+ when he published it, and it sort of explained things. Like it rustled his jimmies to see people in slacks and collared shirts at nice restaurants.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 14:08:45 2017 No.9300514 >>9299230 Tell that to the Cuban doctors fleeing their country and coming to live here in Brazil.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 14:55:54 2017 No.9300709 >>9299033 t. cuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 16:30:04 2017 No.9301169 >>9299072 the germans dindu nothing wrong they just wanted compensation for their destroyed radio tower.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 27 17:00:56 2017 No.9301319 >>9298449 He was Hobbesian more than anything else. Whatever the current order was, he wanted to shore it up. To use his phrase, he was more for commissarial dictatorship than for sovereign dictatorship.

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