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/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 15:29:27 No.9291022 [Reply] [Original]

Gnomic edition

Fantasy
Selected:
>https://i.imgur.com/r688cPe.jpg
General:
>https://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg
Flowchart:
>https://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg

Science Fiction
Selected:
>https://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg
>https://i.imgur.com/IBs9KE8.jpg
General:
>https://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg
>https://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg

NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
>https://i.imgur.com/IJxTQBL.jpg

Previous Threads:
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>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 15:36:41 No.9291048 File: 45 KB, 540x405, gunslinger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This has a bit of a slow start doesn't it? I'm 2 hours into the audiobook and it's decent but where's the hook?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 15:56:25 No.9291119 >>9291048 King didn't really know what the fuck he was doing until about the fourth book or so. That doesn't mean the later books are necessarily better, but at least at that point it has direction.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 15:57:55 No.9291127 Honestly, I wish I was a gnome rather than a human.

Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:04:45 No.9291158

>>9291007
>run a blog about how Democrats are excellent and Republicans are evil for twenty years
>write derivative SF with secondhand Joss Whedon snark while calling everyone to the right of Mao an idiot
>"why is everyone targeting scalzi he did'n do nothin'"

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:07:34 No.9291172 >>9291158 >wah we don't want books to be political >but we dislike this one person for political reasons Also nobody remotely far left likes the dems so try to be consistent lad

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:08:56 No.9291180 >>9291172 Eric Flint is a full-blown Communist. Nobody hates Eric Flint. Do you know why? He's not a dick about it. Scalzi's hated because he's a dick about everything.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:09:59 No.9291186 >>9291172 If Scalzi were actually far left instead of bog-standard neoliberal he might be interesting.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:10:02 No.9291188 >>9291172 This desu. I'd respect him more if he actually was a raging leftist like Mieville, but his is the blandest "hey guise, can't we all just agree?" neoliberalism imaginable.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:11:04 No.9291194 >>9291180 What's he written that's interesting? 1633/4?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:15:41 No.9291218 >>9291048 Book 2

Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:16:06 No.9291220

>>9291048
The series is a mess at the start. King's forward talks a lot about how it has all the hallmarks of a young and inexperienced writer that he would fix if he didn't feel like it would compromise his artistic integrity.

The series as a whole is actually a really nice snapshot of how King's writing style changed as he got older.

Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:17:11 No.9291227

>>9291194
He's mostly a mentor these days I think, helping newer authors get their stuff up to Baen's exacting standards. Lot of stuff in other peoples' settings.

Man, what is it even like being a Baen reader? It's not even a totally milsf ecosystem, plenty of people just read Honor Harrington and not the other stuff. Tons of authors writing in each others' worlds, really tight with their fans, apparently still making money. It's like there's an island of trashy novels with bad CG covers out there, equally foreign to any faction on /sffg/.

Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:17:28 No.9291228

>Why don't people like the character who spammed "fart" several hundred times on twitter completely flooding peoples timeline
>Or the guy who hasn't hand a original thought in his entire career and relentlessly attacks people who have
>Perhaps it was that time he directed his followers to attack another author by writing fake 10-star reviews, accusing them of plagiarism and gloated about their book being temporarily removed from amazon by automated systems because of a massive amount of reports

It was probably when he treated tor fans so badly other tor authors had to literally beg and grovel for forgiveness.

Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:18:13 No.9291231
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>reread His Dark Materials
Why couldn't Lyra have traveled with Will until he closed all the windows except for the one in the world of the dead, and the one between their two worlds?
Why rebuild the Republic of Heaven especially when the fight was against them in the first place?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:22:05 No.9291249 File: 32 KB, 300x450, 9781101972724.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Will I enjoy The Vorrh and sequel if I'm a massive Blakefag? Or is it just another sub-Mythago Wood sort of series?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:24:33 No.9291257 File: 119 KB, 1349x745, wright on pullman and hamlet.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9291231 Have you read John C. Wright's hit piece on Pullman? It's some of his finest work.

Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:24:59 No.9291263

Just read a couple of books on /tg/'s recommendations list and have mixed feelings about most of them. What does /sffg/ think?

>Sabriel by Garth Nix
Great tight plot and pacing, a very classic heroes journey story with all the usual suspects, leaves a lot to be desired on world building and feels like a bite of a smaller story. Could just be because I'm used to reading longer epics.

>The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch
While I like the tone, plot, and setting the book has serious voice issues between characters and it's really obvious it was the writer's first book. Pacing lulls a bit in the middle but not so much I couldn't finish it.

>A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge
This was a truly enjoyable read and had all the hallmarks of a great science fiction set-up with an equally fascinating plot. It was pretty unique and didn't feel derivative at all. Plot ratchets up slowly at first and most of the technology explanations are front-loaded but was well worth getting through. Really nice alien culture exploration too.

So what are you all reading/have recently read?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:26:47 No.9291271 >>9291231 >>9291257 That series started out so promising too. It had a decent balance of deep concepts and lighthearted adventure with a perfect set-up for a classic coming-of-age narrative.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:29:07 No.9291281 >>9291271 >lighthearted adventure with a perfect set-up for a classic coming-of-age narrative. atheism.txt

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:35:27 No.9291304 I wish I was dead.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:43:29 No.9291330 File: 198 KB, 673x1024, 27120693842_448487de29_b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] To be fair this actually manages to make Redshirt look like Hugo award winner. I'm still not convinced it wasn't ghostwritten.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:48:23 No.9291347 File: 125 KB, 808x1044, wright on pullman.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9291330 Did you finish it? Are you the anon that gave the short review a thread or two ago?

Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:49:48 No.9291351

>>9291330
I pirated the audiobook of this and I still can't get over how amazingly bad it was. That they're trying to charge $12.99 for the Kindle version is hilarious.

>>9291347
That was me. If you want more rundowns on dumb shit that happens I can take a crack at it, not like I have anything better to do for a while.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 16:56:43 No.9291380 >>9291351 Go ahead, I'm down. Here's a link to Corroding Empire if you want to compare. https://my.mixtape.moe/meyaqe.epub I loved the first few chapters but it fell apart for the rest of it. Then again nobody was paid a million dollars to write it.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 17:20:58 No.9291472 >Jacek Dukaj finally getting translated !!! http://headofzeus.com/article/ice-1000-page-polish-science-fiction-masterpiece-hoz

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 17:34:20 No.9291528 >>9291127 If you like gnomes did you read the cogweaver trilogy?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 17:38:33 No.9291551 >>9291263 >>9291231 Why the fuck are people reposting old shit again?

Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 17:42:01 No.9291564
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>>9291380
The only two other glaring examples of really bad writing were when one character gets kidnapped and then broken out with minimal effort in the very next scene, and when another character's family is under investigation for a terror attack and instead of trying to do some investigating Scalzi uses it as an excuse to have off camera lesbo sex and then the issue is solved with a phonecall and them being in the same hotel as the man who carried out the attack when he kills himself.

>The Kidnapping
Earlier in the book the obvious bad guy who is also amazingly incompetent for no other reason than that the book's plot doesn't work unless he's a retard threatens a nobleman who is in charge of a planet's taxes and tells him to send the money to him instead because he needs this money to buy weapons to fight some rebels. This fails of course, so he goes to a person he just got done screwing over, hates his guts, and is the kind of person who would stab him in the back to get some revenge without a second thought, and bribes her for info. He learns that the nobleman's son is leaving the planet soon, and kidnaps him in broad daylight so he can extort the money from this nobleman.

To stop this guy from escaping, he puts him in an unlocked cargo container with a car battery wired to it, with two guys set to guard him. Right after the retard leaves, the nobleman's son falls asleep and wakes up to his ex-marine police chief sister breaking him out of the makeshift "jail". She knows where to find him because right after the person retard bribed told him where to find his target, that person went and told her too so she could break him out right after.

There was a whole scene where she offers him a stuffed animal from the luggage he dropped after getting kidnapped, and he asks where she got it given he dropped the bag earlier. I thought the bad guys were trying to use some weird drugs or hypnosis on him or something to try and get info out of him on why he was being told to get off planet by his dad the taxman but it's exactly what it seems like. He was broken out of a situation right after getting into it with no effort on his own. Fucking thrilling writing.

>The Investigation
So later on, another character's house is getting investigated for a terrorist attack that used a shuttle from the ship she was on. She's assigned a security guard to look after her. The very next scene is right after the two of them got done fucking. Then this character gets on the space phone with someone on their ship, finds out some names of people that may have just been on the shuttle before it crashed. The security lady overhears and offers to help for some reason. The next scene is one of the people on this list killing himself by jumping from the 12th floor of the hotel down to the lobby, and the the characters reluctantly stop fucking long enough to figure out which room was his, where they find a suicide note from the guy explaining everything about the frame job.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 17:46:05 No.9291574 File: 519 KB, 1008x389, Свет Харрисона.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Give me something from the so callled "New Space Opera" in the vein of John Harrison. Something gritty, with little bit of cyberpunk and pretentious.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 18:06:33 No.9291641 File: 2.85 MB, 3888x2592, 1490396199570.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] TUC Excerpt When????

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 18:12:34 No.9291665 File: 48 KB, 606x394, Stoop with me easy as 123.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9291574 Mr Russian chav. This is a blue board. No penis in vagina is allowed. Also >tgirls >tgirls Fagget

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 18:13:11 No.9291669 >>9291330 The excerpts used in the promo for it was hilariously bad. Like 13 year olds who try to use swear words as often as possible because their parents are over protective level bad.

Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 18:15:59 No.9291683
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Reposting my question from the previous thread:

What are some dark fantasies with lots of rape/sexual-slavery in it? Preferably if it's the protagonist who's doing the raping/slaving and is unapologetic about it. Gor comes to mind.
>inb4 a song of fire and ice

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 18:16:19 No.9291685 File: 671 KB, 614x825, scalzi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what did he mean by this

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 18:22:37 No.9291714 File: 39 KB, 323x500, Dragonsleep.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9291330 Description reminded me picrelated. Are they really similar or not?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 18:25:08 No.9291723 >>9291685 >This term's been used to insult me, so I'll embrace it, thus taking away its effect At a guess.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 18:57:52 No.9291854 File: 399 KB, 1730x928, 1490471921596.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is /sffg/'s favorite Malthusian sci-fi?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 19:04:50 No.9291881 >>9291685 He seems quite adept at cucking it up. If only he had the writing talent to complement it.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 19:21:08 No.9291940 >>9291854 Rifters trilogy

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 19:31:57 No.9291978 >>9291551 Not sure if you're making a joke about how many times we've had these conversations by now or not. Someone is always reading these books for the first time. What are you reading lately?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 19:43:50 No.9292026 >>9291472 I cannot wait, we have to totally rely on the Polish and the Chinese to save Hard Sci-Fi at this point. More translations the better I say.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 19:46:43 No.9292040 >>9292026 do you have any idea if Tais Teng's Cepheide is available anywhere?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 19:48:13 No.9292045 >>9291330 >The mutineers would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren’t for the collapse of the Flow. This is the first line in the book. Just to let everyone know.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 19:57:58 No.9292083 >>9292045 the rest of the prologue goes on to prove that isn't even true, the mutineers would have gotten away with it if they didn't forget they were doing it 10 minutes later

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 19:59:06 No.9292088 >>9292045 >and their stupid dog too

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 20:13:56 No.9292154 >>9292083 I'll be honest. I couldn't even get past that first line.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 20:19:21 No.9292173 File: 515 KB, 1588x2500, starchart_roshar_color.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9291263 Read the other books after Sabriel, you fucking baka. >>9291551 I posted my previous post exactly one time and never received an adequate answer.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 20:22:01 No.9292191 >>9292040 The only stuff I have read of his is the free stuff on his site.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 20:32:08 No.9292221 >>9291574 Cixin

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 20:35:47 No.9292235 >>9292026 What's some good (English) translated modern Polish scifi? I like expanding my library

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 20:37:09 No.9292240 File: 187 KB, 792x792, shauriatas_by_spiralhorizon-d8du6nw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >you will never tell Shaeönanra how much you love him just kill me desu senpai

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 20:53:33 No.9292301 Who is Scalzi and why should I care about him?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 20:54:09 No.9292307 >>9292173 Is that pic related to the Stormlight Archive somehow? I thought there were only 3 planets in the Roshar system.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 21:09:44 No.9292399 >>9292301 he's a rapist

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 21:16:37 No.9292428 >>9291683 The Steel Remains I guess, but it's terrible.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 21:27:05 No.9292476 File: 380 KB, 1600x864, Haydon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this series any good?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 21:27:35 No.9292479 >>9292240 >>9291641 Bakker fags get out.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 21:34:24 No.9292514 >>9292479 come on anon you enjoyed neuropath didn't you?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 21:36:02 No.9292523 File: 1.21 MB, 2300x1737, cosmere_constellation_map.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9292307 There are three Shardworlds.

Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:00:45 No.9292638
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I read Jirel Meets Magic, a novelette of swords and sorcery by C.L. Moore, a contemporary of Lovecraft and Robert Howard, and a woman author. Moore wrote about six of these stories for Weird Tales about a yellow eyed, red-headed female warrior. I'll be reading them for the next week or two.

Jirel Meets Magic has the woman protag following a fugitive wizard who has fleed through a portal into a violet-skied otherworldly realm. She encounters an exotic sorceress at her marble tower abode, itself a hub linking numerous realms full of strange beings behind closed doors. Jirel combats both wizard and sorceress in a tale where the hero is characterized by her strength of resolution, rather than by Conan-like physical prowess. 3/5 dinos for pulp lovers.

Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:05:23 No.9292655
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>>9291564
>ex-marine police chief sister
He wears it on his sleeve, doesn't he?

Any Scalzi fanboys want to talk about how great CE is? Or are they all ironic fanboys around here?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:13:13 No.9292689 File: 581 KB, 762x464, varg-vikernes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9292655 Stop posting Breivik.

Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:21:31 No.9292719
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>>9292655
I've never seen an actual review of CE talk about why the book is good beyond just saying "it's good" in some fashion. The rest of the review is usually just them talking about Scalzi and his career.

Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:26:36 No.9292735

>>9292719
ClarkHat did a piece on him, about how he's a master of community-building but not a good author on his own. It fits, explains why Scalzi's Twitter avatar is a man swinging a banhammer - what he's most proud of is his ability to exclude from his community.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:29:24 No.9292744 >>9292026 >and the Chinese ???

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:31:50 No.9292754 >>9292301 He's king of the Sci Fi SJWs

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:32:30 No.9292757 >>9292301 I always thought he was a right winger.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:32:38 No.9292758 >>9292744 I assume he means Cixin Liu and others of his ilk.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:33:11 No.9292761 File: 28 KB, 381x273, IMG_7451.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is there a book with a similar feel to Alan Wake?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:34:01 No.9292765 File: 23 KB, 216x346, 51+OGU-b8LL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone read this series? I've read pic related a while ago and am gonna crush the remaining books once I collect them. This guy is dope.

Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:34:09 No.9292768

>>9292301
Scalzi's an alright author who is the go to target of hate for all the sad puppy autists. If you bring him up here even for actual discussion you're likely to shit up the thread as they'll all go mental at the first mention of him.

>>9292757
He basically is, neoliberal dem would be right wing anywhere but the US

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:35:42 No.9292777 >>9292768 >this is what reddit actually believes

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:37:27 No.9292790 File: 112 KB, 316x599, Ash_0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9292768 Found one! What did you like about Collapsing Empire?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:37:43 No.9292792 >>9292777 Nigga your shitposting movement does most of it's canvassing on reddit. You're demonstrably more reddit than anyone else here

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:38:00 No.9292794 >>9292758 that is exactly right

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:38:16 No.9292796 Is there a market for artistically large multiverse novels? With hundreds of characters and tens of storylines and timeframes?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:38:47 No.9292798 >>9292790 Sorry unlike you I'm gonna have to read it before I talk about it :)

Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:40:34 No.9292806

>>9292765
The next two are really good, basically Azarchel gives each of his lackeys a thousand years to remake humanity in his image, then Montrose gets woken up by dog-men and has to work out what happened. The two after that have the timescale stretched out so it's much harder to be attached to any side character, and the side characters were the best parts of Hermetic Millennia/Judge of Ages, but they still have a ton of great ideas.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:41:56 No.9292813 >>9292768 >neoliberal dem would be right wing anywhere but the US Really? How about the Middle East? Africa? Haiti? Samoa? Russia? Let me fix that for you: neoliberal dem would be right wing in Europe

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:43:32 No.9292819 >>9292813 ...it's literally the right wing of the israeli, senegalese and saffer governments

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:49:49 No.9292844 >>9292798 I did read it and it's shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:52:43 No.9292852 What are some good coming-of-age stories?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:54:20 No.9292858 >>9292819 No, it wouldn't. You're a retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:55:25 No.9292862 >>9292819 So you admit that >anywhere but the US is not a factual statement?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 22:57:11 No.9292867 >>9292862 No I gave you multiple counter examples whilst you're hinging your claim off of dictatorships

Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:00:05 No.9292874

>>9292852
Robert Heinlein did an awful lot of them earlier on, look at his so called 'juveniles' (basically YA but well done.) I read the Red Planet and it was good but I like anything in that old fashioned Mars setting, so take your pick of the better regarded ones like Star Beast, Starman Jones, Citizen Of The Galaxy, Have Spacesuit Will Travel. These are breezier and more formulaic than his later books.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:02:26 No.9292881 File: 281 KB, 1280x1025, The Flow.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9292045

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:10:46 No.9292914 >>9292862 Don't bother, he's doing deep performance art as a Scalzite. Hitting every note too.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:10:48 No.9292915 >>9292867 >anywhere but the US Wew lad

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:14:23 No.9292926 >>9292765 >Less than 3.5 stars on Goodreads

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:21:25 No.9292948 >>9292926 Wright's the polar opposite of scalzi obnoxious born again christian naturally both authors have idiot fan bases that fight each other. I'd stick to professional reviews for both of them

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:26:44 No.9292973 >>9292765 I read the first one and dropped it.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:29:19 No.9292984 >>9292867 Why don't dictatorships count? Of course both American parties seem conservative compared to yuropoor Social Democrats. Do you honestly think this is some kind of deep insight?

Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:30:39 No.9292990
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>>9292045
Have you read the excerpt?

>Chapter Two

>Kiva Lagos was busily fucking the brains out of the assistant purser she’d been after for the last six weeks of the Yes, Sir, That’s My Baby’s trip from Lankaran to End when Second Officer Waylov Brennir entered her stateroom, unannounced. “You’re needed,” he said.

>“I’m a little busy at the moment,” Kiva said. She’d just finally gotten herself into a groove, so fuck Waylov (not literally, he was awful) if she was going to get out of the groove just because he walked into it. Grooves were hard to come by. People have sex, and he was unannounced. If this was what he walked into, it was his fault, not hers. The assistant purser seemed a little concerned, but Kiva applied a little pressure to make it clear festivities were to continue.

>“It’s important.”

>“Trust me, so is this.”

>“We’ve got a customs official who won’t let us take any haverfruit off the ship,” Brennir said. If he was shocked or scandalized by Lagos’s activities he was doing a good job of hiding it. He mostly looked bored. “Offloading our haverfruit is why we came to End. If we don’t sell it, or develop licenses, we’re screwed. You’re the owner’s representative. You’re going to have to explain to your mother why this trip was the cause of the financial ruin of your family. So perhaps you might like to join Captain Blinnikka in talking with this customs official right now to see if you can resolve this problem. Or you can just go on fucking that junior crew member, ma’am. I’m sure those are equivalent activities as regards your future, and the future of this ship, and your family.”

>“Well, shit,” Kiva said. Her groove was definitely gone, and the assistant purser, her little project, looked pretty miserable at the moment. “That was a pretty impressive jab you just gave to someone who can fire your ass, Brennir.”

>“You can’t fire me, ma’am,” Brennir said. “I’ve got tenure with the guild. Now, are you coming or not?”

>“I’m thinking.”

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:31:52 No.9292997 >>9292984 >Why don't dictatorships count? Because there's no actual opposition, it isn't a set of parties on a left/right sliding scale it's a single whole

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:33:23 No.9293002 >>9292926 >Taking Goodreads seriously

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:34:14 No.9293007 >>9292997 >it isn't a set of parties on a left/right sliding scale none of them are

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:34:52 No.9293012 >>9292638 But did it have catgirls? That is the question.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:36:42 No.9293016 >>9292990 Is it wrong I got a semi from this?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:37:40 No.9293021 File: 23 KB, 327x295, laughing friends.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9292990 >woman needs six weeks to get a man to fuck her lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:39:18 No.9293026 >>9293016 Pretty wrong. How can someone even read it seriously? Makes me want to vomit.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:40:43 No.9293034 File: 395 KB, 849x849, 1490146015653.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9293021 >Scalzi will never wokefy Kemono Friends Feels pretty good, friend.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:42:12 No.9293039 File: 105 KB, 283x348, 1490476698441.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9293034 kemono friends is better than anything scalzi has ever written

Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:42:58 No.9293041

>>9292997

>Because there's no actual opposition

Yeah there are. Every dictatorship has both hardline and reformist elements within the ruling class. There was a lot more political diversity in Nazi Germany, than say, contemporary Sweden. To me countries like Sweden or Canada look like voluntary dictatorships because the opinion corridor is so narrow. It would be nice to live in the States where they have an actual debate.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:47:27 No.9293050 >>9292792 Those trips say otherwise, cuckroach.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Mar 25, 2017 23:48:29 No.9293055 >>9292852 Sword in the Storm and Midnight Falcon

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 00:02:29 No.9293119 >>9292874 >>9293055 Thanks, will take a look. I have a big soft spot for these stories.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 00:04:55 No.9293127 >>9293119 In Sword in the Storm you even get to read about the protag having sex for the first time as a teenager. But don't worry; it's classy and tasteful.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 00:07:11 No.9293134 What the fuck is LitRPG?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 00:16:43 No.9293171 >>9293134 Does that mean RPG kino?

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 00:19:58 No.9293182

>>9293134
Imagine turning your playthrough of Final Fantasy VII into a novel, with explicit references to leveling up, gaining experience points, stat increases, and equipping weapons/magic.

They're written and read by people who seek escapist thrills without knowing about pre-Campbellian and heroic storytelling. Seriously, these people would be better reading the likes of Burroughs, Vance, Howard, Brackett, Leiber - stories of wizards, thieves, warriors, magical objects, rowdy taverns and frail damsels. But they don't read books, and only found these elements in their videogames, so now they want to try and write in this mode but are only able to write heroism through the methods of computer games. It's a most curious phenomenon.

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 00:41:12 No.9293246

>>9293182
Kind of like art students wanting to draw realistically but having to go off photographs since there are hardly any masters left alive, right?

I kind of want to bomb Japan with translations of pulp greats and see what happens. Are you saying that isekai crap is making its way over here? Wattpad and such, right?

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 00:56:20 No.9293284

>>9293246
I'm just an oldfag who stuck in 20thC ways, so I didn't know what isekai or wattpad was until a moment ago, but I think I know what you're getting at; the decline in the amount of heroic storytellers and the fall in numbers of sophisticated readership, and this coinciding with SFF taking in videogame culture and methods via Japan.

I'm not sure the Japanese read as much as the West does, even. It's a busy-busy world of salarymen, a society with a word for buying books without reading them. So they have a lot of manga and light novels, quickly digested media. I understand things like LITRPGs are an inheritance of this culture, now spreading Westwards.

I think Japan know about Robert Howard and Lovecraft, but rather than read them in translation, their iconography is appropriated in more visual mediums.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 01:00:35 No.9293295 >>9293284 Do you follow the Castalia House blog? We were just discussing the decline over there, not litrpgs, but they're certainly a symptom.

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 01:09:23 No.9293326

>>9293295
I'm familiar with Castalia and I agree with a lot of what they say about the decline of storytelling - but I'm not quite as zealous. I think even New Wave was a good idea and I enjoy the likes of Aldiss, Silverberg, Ballard - but these same authors can be unreadable. I like how often they update.

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 01:15:51 No.9293334

>>9293326
You're not Misha Burnett, are you? Ah, nevermind. I'm the same, I don't blame Campbell and co for the decline, I just wish we had living authors who had A. Merritt for an editor. I'm really hoping we can fan the flames of these traditions, especially once they stop harping on hard SF being evil.

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 01:25:55 No.9293357

>>9293334
No, and I'm not a published author or blogger. I might try short stories just to see what I can do. As for Campbell, I think I would have eschewed his Astounding Science Fiction for Weird Tales and Frederik Pohl's Galaxy. Galaxy seemed to stress the human side more.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 01:28:10 No.9293362 >>9293357 A man after my own heart. I wouldn't mind seeing what you can do. I dropped my standards for the Pulp Rev guys and it's been kind of fun. I know I can do better than them though, that's the really fun part. Just... when I can.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 02:09:26 No.9293453 Any good suggestions for scifi/space opera series with mystical elements (along the lines of Star Wars)?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 02:13:07 No.9293461 >>9292881 i'll tweet this at him

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 02:15:03 No.9293467 >>9293039 sad, but true

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 02:49:19 No.9293544

>>9293284
>I'm not sure the Japanese read as much as the West does, even
Reading in Japanese has a considerably higher barrier than it does in the west because of the way classic Japanese stories are written. Consider the Japanese have 3 different written alphabets, and one of those is comprised of thousands of unique characters, hundreds of which are fairly obscure. Using obscure characters is common in Japanese fiction, it's sort of like using obscure words in English, but similar to English you can use context to figure out what they mean and can always look them up if you have to. But most people prefer to just read simpler texts that they don't have to work at to understand.

Hence the increased popularity of light novels and other "light" reading options among the Japanese youth.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 02:51:50 No.9293551 >>9293453 Asimov's Foundation series Mobile Suit Gundam especially the Universal Century or 00 for sure Hyperion Cantos

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 03:15:16 No.9293580 >>9293461 Keep us up to date

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 04:13:09 No.9293682 Is there any fantasy novel with the main protagonist being a prostitute?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 04:22:07 No.9293695 >>9293682 yes

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 04:27:23 No.9293706 >>9293695 Any examples?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 04:27:47 No.9293708 >>9293706 your mom

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 04:38:26 No.9293733
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>>9293706
Pic related for one (be prepared to abuse your little brother)
Green by Jay Lake (child prostitute.. kinda)
Priestess of the white (kinda sex magic shenanigans)
A bunch of others I can't remember

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 05:03:19 No.9293769 >>9293733 Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 05:12:34 No.9293782 http://www.castaliahouse.com/the-man-who-saved-sword-and-sorcery-fiction/ Based.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 05:39:22 No.9293820 >>9292990 His women act and sound like men. Twenty shekels on Scalzi being a nu-male.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 06:30:15 No.9293890 >>9292990 This is.... horrible. Why is leftist fiction so fucking awful?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 07:07:02 No.9293969 File: 114 KB, 310x475, The_100_book_cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Has anyone Read the The 100 novel series? I keep getting recommendation to read it? Any opinion on it?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 07:07:34 No.9293971 >>9293969 Stop hanging around 14 year olds?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 07:09:07 No.9293976 >>9293971 I wish anon. early 20's

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 07:16:52 No.9293996 >>9293969 I don't read YA anymore The TV is pretty good though, acting is mixed but everything else is ok

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 07:23:36 No.9294019 >>9293453 Deathstalker might be what you're after It's pure shlock but it's very much science fantasy, it reads like someone was tasked with combining every major genre concept into one book

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 08:48:46 No.9294240 I don't browse this general often but what with all the discussion of the Three Body Books in the last thread, you guys know they're making a film? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three-Body_Problem_(film)

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 08:51:44 No.9294245

Started reading the Wheel of Time recently, about half-way done with Eye of the World. So far the story seems so simple and predictable I'm really starting to wonder how it's even possible for this to be a series as long as it is. Is it going to change after the first book?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 08:54:40 No.9294254 >>9294245 It gets more complex but it is pretty much just slow epic fantasy throughout

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 08:55:56 No.9294257 >>9294254 So I guess it all boils down to how much you care about the people it's all happening to?

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 09:00:42 No.9294272

>>9294245
First book is very stock standard. It doesn't pick up steam until half way through the second book, and it starts to drop off after the 6th on account of Jordan's deteriorating health.

The series is pretty unique among Fantasy in that it's not a medieval setting. From the first to the last book, the setting actually undergoes a full blown Industrial revolution, and while this is going on, Rand is trying to keep it all together while dealing with Some pretty hardcore PTSD combined with a progressively worsening case of Dissociative identity disorder. Also very little of the setting is introduced in the first book, only about a quarter of the nations are involved and less than half the characters.

100% worth reading the whole series at least once.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 09:00:43 No.9294273 >>9294240 Death'sEnd will need to be something like 3 or 4 films to avoid losing any complexity. To my memory Three Body wasn't too long though.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 09:02:44 No.9294280 >>9294240 A television drama would make more sense, to be honest.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 09:07:42 No.9294293 >>9294280 I think that's the same for most longer book-to-screen adaptations, just because there's a lot of information to process.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 09:08:07 No.9294296 >>9294272 Well you convinced me to keep at it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 09:08:42 No.9294302 >>9294257 Yeah pretty much.

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 09:38:12 No.9294367

>>9294272
>the setting actually undergoes a full blown Industrial revolution
I can't stand this, the industrial revolution shown in so many of these books wouldn't happen within a single characters lifetime; they skip multiple other revolutions that would've been required.

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 09:50:49 No.9294410

>>9294367
You're applying real world standards to a world that is inherently unreal. In this case, many of those technologies were laying around unused and forgotten, or known but only by a select few who guarded it as a profitable secret (the Illuminators guild for example made Fireworks, but literally killed anyone else who learned how), and then you have the fact that there's characters literally centuries old hoarding all sorts of knowledge, not to mention manuscripts detailing lost technologies.

Besides, the setting of Wheel of Time was already beyond the Medieval stage from page 1. There's advanced clockwork even in shitty little villages, most people are literate, and there are primitive Printing Presses around, with the production of books being mostly bottlenecked by the quality of paper and ink. Not to mention all the other shit like Light Bulbs locked in time capsules because the series is set in the future. It was headed for an Industrial Revolution even without the influence of the protagonists.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 10:09:17 No.9294453 >>9292997 >the only governments that exist outside of the west are "dictatorships"

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 10:26:55 No.9294508 >>9292761 It's kind of Stephen King, isn't it? Try The Dark Half, maybe.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 10:41:24 No.9294547 >>9294508 I think he was joking because as I recall those games are just a huge Stephen King masturbatory fest.

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 10:45:19 No.9294565

>>9294296
Let me serve as an alternative perspective and say that The Wheel of Time books aren't worth it and you shouldn't read them. We're talking about a series almost 12,000 pages long, where absolutely none of it is great, and much of it is downright bad. There are entire volumes where almost nothing of significance happens. There are tangents where people join the circus that last hundreds of pages. The female characters are oftentimes the most shrewish, worst written things you can imagine. The writing in general is middling at best. There are so many better things you could read with your time.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 10:48:39 No.9294575 >>9294565 >There are so many better things you could read with your time. I've read so much though, I don't know if there really is.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 10:56:33 No.9294604 >>9294575 Life isn't long enough to read all the books better than The Wheel of Time.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 10:59:06 No.9294610 >>9294604 In this specific genre?

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 11:12:03 No.9294649
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>>9294575
>literally hundreds of thousands of fantasy books out there
>I've read so much though,
Bitch you haven't even reach 1%. Read something else.
You want a long ass series? Get the black company or Malazan book of the fallen.

If you continue past book one you will come back in here and cry about how bad it was, and how it touched you in places you are ashamed to show on a doll.
We know this, we've seen this. Get out while it's good, or face the consequences.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 11:15:28 No.9294659 >>9294649 >Get the black company or Malazan book of the fallen. What a surprise, I've read them already. >the rest of the post You're trying to get me to read it just to spite you.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 11:20:04 No.9294668 Read Inda lad Nobody's read Inda :(

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 11:22:59 No.9294681 >>9294668 What's an Inda Uncle Anon?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 11:30:54 No.9294703 >>9294659 Go ahead. I'll be waiting here to drink your nutritious tears.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 11:31:33 No.9294705 >>9294703 Your reverse psychology shenanigans won't get the better of me.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 12:39:48 No.9294951 >>9291048 Gunslinger is pure kino from the start. You're a blustering faggot if you can't appreciate King's masterwork.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 12:41:09 No.9294956 File: 19 KB, 480x360, cron.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >my fantasy novel about fledgling gods cannibalizing each other to ascend is too edgy to be published How do I cope, lads?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 12:42:50 No.9294964 >>9294956 Sounds like you novelized Dark Souls.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 12:43:03 No.9294965 >>9294956 You publish chapter by chapter over a period of time on your blog.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 12:44:31 No.9294973 >>9294964 Loosely inspired by Bloodborne with a vaguely episodic, Berserk-esque opening.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 12:46:22 No.9294984 >>9294956 Make the cannibalism less edgy, duh.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 12:47:39 No.9294994 >>9294956 >>9294973 You probably weren't denied because it was too edgy but because they received their hundredth Miyazaki inspired novel that week. Will your next novel be inspired by Yoko Taro by any chance?

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 12:50:52 No.9295009

>>9291048
I like the first, second and third book. Book one starts off slow, two is really great and introduces interesting characters. Three starts to go down hill but is still enjoyable. After that I dislike the series but I think it's worth finishing the series. Just keep in mind the ending is shit in typical Stephen king fashion.

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 12:53:00 No.9295020

>>9291048
I think when king wrote wolves of the Callan and onward he had ptsd/ a nervous breakdown and went nuts/ had a midlife crisis and it really shows in the story line. It's pretty sad and pathetic really. He ruined a good series.
He forgot the face of his father.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 13:17:53 No.9295140 female warriors ruin books

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 13:29:51 No.9295192 File: 58 KB, 500x448, 1489496832554.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9295140 No they don't. Badly written ones ruin books, just like badly written characters of any other sort.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 13:32:17 No.9295203 >>9295192 The concept of a female warrior is bad writing.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 13:33:33 No.9295209 >>9295203 t. smelly virgin

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 13:37:24 No.9295224 >>9295203 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Bonny

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 13:44:40 No.9295261 >>9295224 >Quoting the Ben Hur of Women pirates Hi leddit

Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Sun, Mar 26, 2017 14:18:07 No.9295423

>>9294565

I'm going to second this. Industrial Revolution-anon also failed to mention how Jordan started recycling the bad guys--the protagonist kills one and the NotSauron simply regenerates them for the next book.

>failing health
>not simply raking in dollars
Occam's Razor, friendo.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 14:31:00 No.9295491 Finished Dust of Dreams. I'm scared to start Book 10 cause I don't want to see how many of the Bonehunters died. It was probably a lot. Though I'm 99% sure Quick Ben wasn't one of them whatever they say.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 14:32:30 No.9295503 >>9294245 The first book is almost a totally separate plot. Lots of the stuff in it foreshadows and sets up the rest of the series, but the actual plot, the quest etc are not relevant past book 1, everything changes after the end of the first book.

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 14:38:20 No.9295539

>>9294367
You might have a point if WoT were just another pseudo-medieval Europe setting, but it's not. It's not so much invention as rediscovery, they figure out how to make some of the ancient stuff they sometimes find littered around the world, from the age of wonders, that is their distant past and future. Because the ages of the world move in an endless loop turned by the wheel of time

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 15:03:59 No.9295691 >>9295209 >>>/tumblr/

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 15:05:05 No.9295696

>>9295491
Scared to finish the tenth because you just feel that everyone's going to die.
About halfway through now. You'll probably finish it before I do.

>nearing the end of DoD
>listening to spotify list while reading
>Prelude to Obliteration and Destroyer of Dreams start playing at the exact page the Nah'ruk show up
mfw

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 15:29:42 No.9295828 >>9295539 It's like we really are on some kinda The Eye of the World.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 15:31:30 No.9295836 >>9294956 Publish it on Kindle with a vaporwave version of that painting for a cover. Someone's gonna buy it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 15:32:31 No.9295841 >>9294994 >Will your next novel be inspired by Yoko Taro by any chance? oh man I hope so

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 15:39:26 No.9295861 >>9295209 >implying your personal worth increases when you have defiled yourself with womankind and I KNOW you didn't mean someone who can't get married because you could have said bachelor, now that's a word worth insulting someone with.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 16:33:26 No.9296107 >>9295423 >tripcode For what purpose

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 16:34:54 No.9296113 >>9296107 Attention obviously.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 16:38:31 No.9296130 File: 67 KB, 500x809, 54ddb7382a4b41683f0298ed7386ec28.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone else enjoy these books? I think they're ______________________fun.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 18:02:51 No.9296509 What you guys reading? And why did someone recommend gay magic sex to me?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 18:23:14 No.9296625 >>9296130 > just finished it last week, was a good read, if you liked it you will probably like the 1632 series. its a lot less monkey-cat cat-monkey fucking going on, more flintlocks and pickup trucks.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 18:36:31 No.9296677 >>9296625 i have boat autism so the fact that the guy writing them knows what he's doing made them for me more than anything else >tfw no cat-monkey gf

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 18:40:33 No.9296695 >ywn belong to a species that engineered its women to be non-sentient

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 18:43:47 No.9296710 >>9296695 everyone's non-sentient but me, I think

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 18:47:39 No.9296732 >>9296677 I really like boats but only pre motor ones Not nearly enough nautical fantasy around given that it was the foundation of the genre with The Odyssey and the Eddas

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 18:54:40 No.9296774 >>9296732 >The Odyssey was the first fantasy >thus the foundation ...

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 18:58:23 No.9296786 >ywn be a scrambler >ywn be safe and comfy in rorschach with no consciousness to bother you

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 19:18:31 No.9296864 >>9296786 I wonder if there's any cute scrambler art. Not scrambler girls, just fuzzy brittle star aliens cuddling. If someone could draw a scrambler girl, though, instant /sffg/ mascot.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 19:24:52 No.9296893 Is the Earthsea Trilogy good? My dad just lent me his copy of it, wondering if Le Guin is a meme.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 19:28:33 No.9296917 >>9291048 the hook is the very first line. You want the gunslinger to catch the man in black. Then it happens and it's a complete letdown. Then book two happens and suddenly it's about drug addiction, mental disorder and real-life shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 19:29:03 No.9296919 File: 18 KB, 292x234, John_C_Wright.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tips fedora

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 19:30:13 No.9296928 File: 222 KB, 500x250, P4YLhpO.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9291127 >you will never wear a red cone while snogging a bearded midget woman why live

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 19:34:07 No.9296946

>>9296893
It's very cliche, but luckily leGuin is good at doing cliche. Just some comfy myth stuff, basically.
Personally I preferred her "the Gift", she's more original there. I also hear Left Hand of Darkness is pretty unique and geared towards politics, but never read it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 19:45:19 No.9296978 File: 2.53 MB, 2260x1600, gnome adoption.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9296928 >ywn spend hundreds of years getting rich and doing philanthropy with your dear wife

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 19:47:35 No.9296988 File: 661 KB, 2261x1200, Ve6jntr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The January Dancer/Up Jim River/ Into the Lions Mouth Revelation Space (Series) The Xelee Sequence (Series) Feersum Endjin The Wreck of the River of Stars Fallen Dragon

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 19:51:53 No.9297005 >>9296988 >somebody else knows Fallen Dragon I don't know why I like it so much. Must be a nostalgia thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 20:09:31 No.9297060 >>9296988 >Revelation Space >The Xelee Sequence Why do I feel that you are cosmerefag?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 20:47:27 No.9297183 >>9296978 c-cute

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 20:54:03 No.9297200
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Fuck whoever recommended this and said it was better than Ender's Game. I thought it was a sci-fi novel, but it's a fucking soap opera. Cuckoldry is an important plot point in this book. KEKOLDRY! Fuck this.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 21:01:39 No.9297231 File: 706 KB, 1130x1600, [EHScans] - DAYDREAM HOUR 2 (Ryoko Kui).rar-[EHScans] - DAYDREAM HOUR 2 (Ryoko Kui)-01-04.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9297183 Ryoko Kui is a gem.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 21:03:23 No.9297237 how do I flush a cancerous concept out of my brain and regain my originality and inspiration?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 21:04:17 No.9297244 >>9297200 To be fair we also said it was a soap opera. And if someone here came up with the idea to take a hardnosed military SF protagonist and throw him into Brazilian daytime TV we'd love it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 21:05:25 No.9297250 >>9297200 That cover is trash. The random spaceship was way better. I wish someone would just draw a piggie family photo or something.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 21:07:35 No.9297255 File: 553 KB, 861x1200, Delicious in Dungeon - c019 (mag) [EHScans].zip-19_06.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9296978 >raise the brown twins like their own child >use Namari as a human dorf shield when the undine attacks STONE COLD

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 21:14:14 No.9297277

>>9297200
>set in the world of Ender's Game - now a major motion picture

oh god

don't fucking remind me of that movie please

i'm glad my roommate and i were the only people in the theater when i saw it because i was actually yelling at the movie before it was over

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 21:39:58 No.9297384 >>9297200 I genuinely liked it better than ender's game but I'm a sucker for first contact stories.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 21:41:25 No.9297389 >>9297255 >Delicious in Dungeon >Not Dungeons 'n' Delicacies or even just Dungeon Meal Yen Press was a mistake.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 21:47:32 No.9297418 >>9297389 Dungeon Meal is plain, but not terrible. Dungeons and Delicacies is really dumb but it's growing on me. Delicious in Dungeon is dumb Engrish. I wish they would have just stuck with Dungeon Meshi. >Laios

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 21:48:50 No.9297427 >>9297277 What did you hate most, the rushed battle room scenes, the stupid-complicated keyboard interface, or putting Ender on a ship with warp drive?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 21:51:34 No.9297439 What's your favourite Guy Gavriel Kay novel?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 21:52:06 No.9297444 File: 87 KB, 900x900, 1478531330488.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9297427 i think i hated it all so much that no single part really stands out other than how badly they fucked up the ending

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 21:59:05 No.9297473

>>9297444
>trips of righteous anger
Yeah it was crap. I'm trying to remember a part of it that I liked, that stood out, but I'm just drawing a blank. Graff wasn't ugly, Mazer Rackham wasn't old, I guess Anderson being a black DMV social worker woman worked?

None of them were in the military, though. Nobody acted military. They were all on the set of a sci-fi movie the entire time. Man, that movie was fractally bad, bad on a broad scale and individually bad in its parts. I really want to see OSC's other scripts now.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 22:04:49 No.9297505 >>9297439 I'm really enjoying Tigana at the moment

Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Sun, Mar 26, 2017 22:09:33 No.9297531

Hey guys, what is the word for the following?
>half-listening to someone
>sarcastically clipping whatever they say
>"uhhuh"
>"sure thing"
>"whatever you say"

Speaking of scifi classics turned into terrible movies, the GitS live action gives every sign of being an all-time failure.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 22:15:00 No.9297556 >>9297531 >people still trying to make cyberpunk happen It's deader than Westerns.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 22:16:48 No.9297568 >>9297531 Snooting

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 22:26:53 No.9297606 why was solarpunk DOA? It was aesthetically beautiful beyond anything any of the other punks could manage, and it gave me hope for the future

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 22:30:51 No.9297622 >>9297606 examples? sounds boring

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 22:40:12 No.9297663

>>9297622
Imagine a mashup of biopunk, studio ghibli and art noveau. Everything's covered electronic textiles, stained glass and bio-engineered plants and insects.

Like steampunk, it's more of a technological attitude and stylistic matter, but it's a good alternate future rather than a good alternate past

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 22:42:49 No.9297682 >>9297663 No, I mean books. Did someone actually write solarpunk or was it just some loser posting a manifesto on his blog? It sounds kind of like Doctorow, and I don't mind iyashikei at all but Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom was super-creepy.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 22:46:15 No.9297698 >>9297682 as I said, it was DOA. just as people started grouping different artists concept art into a potential genre it died out hard. That was right around when people started taking note of Trump's presidential campaign

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 22:47:47 No.9297707 >>9297698 anyone remember when a bunch of people gathered concept art and inspired Gibson to write Neuromancer?

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 22:49:56 No.9297716

>>9296774
The Odyssey does have a lot of fantastic elements. Angry and capricious gods walking among men, cyclops, a witch, sea monster, sirens, magic food.

It's the same elsewhere. Perseus and Medusa is a coming-of-age story in a fantasy setting, with abusive father figures, divine mentors, and quests to retrieve magic items. At the end the hero fights the big boss, flies off, bags a princess, and sticks it to the folks at home town by turning them to stone.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 22:53:55 No.9297732 >>9297707 >>9297682 actually I think bindi might have been solarpunk. I'm not sure since I only read the first chapter and then never ended up buying it because I normally don't like space stuff

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 22:57:29 No.9297746 >>9297439 the only thing i've read by him was Under Heaven, which wasn't good at all

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 23:00:19 No.9297760 File: 13 KB, 182x277, tos.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who the fuck is Bonhart and why haven't I heard about him before? Does this series get as bad as i've heard?

Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 23:06:41 No.9297791
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>“Time to start the bacon.”
>It lay sizzling in the pan in less time that it has taken me to write about it.
>“See this? It’s clean, I promise you. I’m going to put it on top. That’s the secret to cooking bacon right, Mr. Dunn.”
>I admitted I had not known it.

WHAT IS IT?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 23:13:24 No.9297821 >>9297760 First two books are great, the actual 5 book series itself is incredibly boring

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 23:13:41 No.9297823 >>9293682 isn't Kushiel's Dart about prostitutes? I've never read it >>9293733 I read about half of Green in a Barnes and Noble. Wasn't very good

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 23:14:34 No.9297825 >>9297821 I'm actually on book four right now, but then again I'm generally a very hard person to bore.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 23:43:38 No.9297917 >>9297791 One of the biggest mysteries in all of Wolfe. A pan, maybe?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 23:52:36 No.9297942 >>9291380 I'm pretty sure different sections of Corroding Empire were written by different authors and that John C. Wright did the first part.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Mar 26, 2017 23:55:55 No.9297951 >>9292765 If you liked the first book, you will like the series.

Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 00:04:12 No.9297971

>>9297942
That was my take too. Scott Cole does zombies so he probably did the zombie chapter, I don't know who they've got who'd use present tense for the space elevator, Kratman maybe for the violent stuff? I don't know non-Wright Castalia authors very well, but the humor in the earlier chapters was pure Wright. Vox Day probably wrote the last chapter at least. And I'm sure there's a few midlisters who haven't come out as Castalia contributers yet, like whoever did Six Expressions of Death.

The differences were a lot more apparent in the 001 release with all the typos. One author uses ellipses too much, another repeats clauses, that sort of thing. Hopefully Vox will just tell us soon.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 00:19:40 No.9298028 >>9297556 The world looks more and more cyberpunk by the day, friend. Why read about it when you can live it?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 00:21:48 No.9298036 File: 411 KB, 1280x1256, cybergoth.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9298028 The world IS more and more cyberpunk, but our aesthetics are seriously lacking.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 00:22:43 No.9298040 File: 56 KB, 640x492, V4N45BL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9297531 Speaking of GitS, what would you change about the movie to make it a 'success'? It seems quite faithful to the source material and themes.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 00:23:58 No.9298041 File: 274 KB, 978x768, 7j6EJqU.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9298036 That depends entirely on location, profession and social status.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 00:25:48 No.9298051 File: 111 KB, 640x589, 1488317409827.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9298036

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 00:28:27 No.9298062 File: 58 KB, 555x350, about3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9298041

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 00:34:29 No.9298077 modempunk>cyberpunk >>9297698 nigga if you want solarpunk to happen you have to write it also how is it *punk if they're not rebelling against anything

Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 00:35:35 No.9298080
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>>9298062
kek, I'm a computer engineer, not a bum
too lazy to take a picture of my office for you but it looks like workstation.png but with worse speakers and better headphones

Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 00:37:03 No.9298088
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I don't personally know anyone else who has read this so I'm not sure if it's just my shitty appreciation of sci-fi, but this absolutely roped me in. Morgan has some interesting conceptualisations of a society that has achieved digital transferal of consciousness and the implications it has for the extremely old and extremely wealthy. Definitely worth a read, even if it is a little trashy at times.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 00:38:24 No.9298097 File: 471 KB, 1200x808, 9267508f048077b25064fbd82bc77fcb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9298080 That's not a cyberpunk workstation. THIS is a cyberpunk workstation.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 00:43:36 No.9298116 File: 31 KB, 552x414, no thank you.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9298088 >Author declared himself a feminist

Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Mon, Mar 27, 2017 00:49:38 No.9298132
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>>9298040

This is just what I've gathered from IMDB and the promos so I may be short some info:
>Scarlett Johansson is a mouthbreather
>the Major is now a generic revenge plot arc
>no Togusa for human contrast to cyborg
>movie plot created from a random mashup of movie and TV plot elements

I would have preferred they stayed close to the 1995 movie plot as the Puppet Master is the most interesting antagonist who also illustrates the drawbacks of combining the IoT with cyborg implants.
I don't really think a live-action movie improves upon the original, though.

I'm not strongly opposed to the movie but I predict it's a money grab that is doomed to failure. Hollywood can't do a movie today that isn't superheroes on cheap power trips which is where I think this will be going. To be fair, GitS after SAC is moneygrubbing nonsense anyways so Hollywood wouldn't be defaming the franchise.

English Asahi Shimbun writeup on the movie:
>http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/SDI201703262029.html

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 00:58:11 No.9298175 File: 174 KB, 800x600, 1487371810466.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9298036 something i think a lot of people who write cyberpunk or things in a similar vein forget is that it's not about saving the world, it's about saving yourself

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 00:59:28 No.9298178 >>9298175 Most modern storytellers forget that, chiefly Doctor Who screenwriters.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 01:07:52 No.9298210 >>9298116 >author receives a large chunk of sales from an inconsequential claim Doesn't read much like a feminist work.

Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 01:15:09 No.9298236
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>>9295696
>so much of DoD is people walking through wastelands and getting rekt by inexplicable horrific shit
>mfw that final battle
And to think this was a relatively small scale version of what the civil war between K'chain Che'malle and K'chain Nah'ruk was like.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 01:18:04 No.9298245 >>9298236 God I hate fantasy names with arbitrary apostrophes so god damn much.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 01:31:05 No.9298281 File: 258 KB, 1024x795, shinsekai yori rat war.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any good stuff with absurdly powerful psychics not being able to handle brutal medieval war? It feels like New Wave would have produced tons of this.

Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 01:43:38 No.9298317

>The boys in Ender's Game sleep naked in the barracks
>Consistently mentioned that some are naked when in barracks in later chapters
>When the older boys gang up on Ender in the showers, one of them gets naked to be equal to him

What the fuck is Card's deal with naked pre-teen boys

Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 01:47:59 No.9298334
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>>9298317
>he hasn't read Songmaster
But seriously, it feels classical, and also drives home how they don't own anything and their only choice in clothes is a uniform or nothing, because they're kids with their childhoods ripped away to fight the adults' war. But you can call him a closet homo if you want, I guess.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 01:48:06 No.9298335 >>9298317 I think it's pretty clear what his deal with naked pre-teen boys is.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 01:48:24 No.9298338 >>9298317 He wants to fuck the shota.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 01:52:24 No.9298353 >>9298334 Yeah i thought about that, showing the raw nakedness of children training to fight a war but come on man The fuck dude

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 02:08:21 No.9298402 File: 69 KB, 640x640, 1488223265682.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9298353 what's the problem, you can't handle a few naked boys without the flames of lust consuming your heart?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 02:21:14 No.9298431 >>9298080 why do you have TWO hakko solder stations?

Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 02:36:08 No.9298463
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I read Black God's Kiss, another of C.L. Moore's short stories of a yellow eyed and redheaded warrior woman in a land analogous to dark age France.

Here, Jirel seeks revenge on the man who has captured her castle and kissed her, by seeking a weapon through a secret portal to a hell-like world that is located in the basement. Moore places many unusual apparitions and unnatural phenomenon along the protag's journey through a dark land of low gravity and strange stars, where the running waters seem to whisper. She writes elusively of sensations outside of man's comprehension, normally imperceivable , unbearable - things Jirel must negotiate by the power of her hatred and desire for revenge. This is a 4/5 for fans of Lovecraft and Howard, whose influence runs through.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 02:45:46 No.9298476 >>9298463 Cover babe looks hot. Picked up.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 02:49:01 No.9298486 Is there any SF that reads like Raymond Chandler?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 02:49:15 No.9298488 >>9298116 >"no guys you just need to look past lovecraft's racism" >refuses to read author who isn't mean to women

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 02:52:26 No.9298501 >>9298245 Pretty much only the Imass and the K'Chain Che'malle use apostrophes with any regularity in Malazan Book of the Fallen. In both cases the usages follow pretty consistent rules though.

Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 03:10:24 No.9298539

>>9298431
Multiple irons so you don't have to switch tips for different jobs. PCBs can have surface mount and through hole parts. Shovel-ish tips work way better for surface mount parts with tons of little pins and pointy needle-ish tips are easier for through hole parts. Personal preference, but there is your answer.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 03:50:43 No.9298625 >>9298402 I want to fug that shota.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 05:48:50 No.9298861 >>9298488 Racism is leagues better than feminism.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 06:49:19 No.9298986 >>9296864 >a scrambler girl Christ, no

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 07:02:36 No.9299008 >>9297791 cocaine, clearly.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 07:03:43 No.9299011 >>9297791 No doubt it's the infinite mysetry of the Pancreator, with a light dash of salt

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 07:11:14 No.9299025 >>9298501 >Che'malle

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 07:16:11 No.9299034 >>9298861 Neither here nor there. I can understand not wanting to read something if it was an outright attempt at subverting your 'values', but there's no feminist propaganda, veiled or otherwise, in Morgan's novels. It's just a damn good story.

Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 07:31:41 No.9299067
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whats the sffg consensus on emperor's blades/providence of fire/last mortal bond?

IMO, overall highly entertaining well-scoped plot. decent world building

Main gripes are that author sounds like he was lifting from the 10th entry down in the thesaurus the whole way through

also falls into the extreme improbability trap a few too many times where there could have been an attempt at an explanation

and the dialog was a bit cheeky sometimes.

Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 08:28:05 No.9299241

>>9297823
>I read about half of Green in a Barnes and Noble. Wasn't very good
I read it like 10 years ago. I enjoyed it then, maybe I might not now. Don't know. Just know the main character was bought as a child so she could be trained then diddled.

Plus the author is dead. That makes it better right? After all lit only likes dead authors.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 08:36:28 No.9299260 Has anyone read anything by Naomi Novak? Any good? I have a copy of Temeraire (Napoleon with dragons - literally) and I'm considering tossing it but I want to know if I'm making a mistake.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 08:40:05 No.9299279 >>9299067 >women successfully completing an insane special forces course DROPPED

Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 08:45:35 No.9299299

>>9299067
I enjoyed the first two books a lot. Thought Valyn's side was really entertaining to follow, Kaden was interesting as well.
I really hated Adare in book 2/3. Whenever the old woman (forgot her name) wasn't with her, it was really hard not to skip pages.

3rd book was a bit iffy, kinda lost its magic for me when it got a touch too "edgy". It had its moments though, mostly with Valyn and his team.
Fuck that ending though. Thought the whole sacrifice thingy ended in a dry fart. And fuck Adare for cucking everything.

Overall, I'm glad I read it. Good characters and plot halfway through, the other half is carried by some good characters.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 08:47:43 No.9299308 >>9299067 FUCK A D A R EEEE D A R E

Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 08:54:44 No.9299348
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>Liked the Farseer trilogy, so I tried reading some of the authors other stuff
>Heard this was kinda bad but gave it a shot anyway
>mfw

Good god it's terrible. I get the feeling I'm supposed to be sympathizing with the Natives, but they're completely impossible to like and never actually do anything worth defending. The main character also just seems to get carried along by the plot without ever actually deciding to do anything for himself either.

The best part of it is a bunch of Musket wielding Cavalry mowing down grass skirt wearing savages who think throwing their shit at civilians constitutes war.

Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 08:55:21 No.9299349

>>9298175
>>9298097
>>9298080
>>9298036
>>9298028
The only thing keeping us from true augmentation is battery life. We already attach nodes to nerves and the brain over time rewrites the use of those nerves to control the prosthetic limb.

The only problem is we have to stay in the lab to use the complicated ones because of power issues. So much things could be possible, we already have the technology. It's just the power source.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 08:58:19 No.9299360 >>9299348 >reading Hobb I was told to keep far away from the rangers apprentice years ago, and I still follow that advice with the addition of staying away from all her works.

Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 09:06:03 No.9299380

>>9299349

I believe humanity will inevitably become more vain and materialist and thrill-seeking, so at first augmentation will be very popular. However, I suspect that human beings will realise that they are still unhappy despite their more-than-human physical capabilities, so they will begin to become a more inward looking and spiritually cultivated people - and let the robots and supercomputers do all the heavy lifting. But this stage could be five hundreds years away.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 09:16:28 No.9299428 >>9299360 she didn't write ranger's apprentice >>9299348 yeah even among big hobb fans the consensus is it's pretty terrible and the worst thing she's written

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 09:46:16 No.9299550 >>9299348 I love Hobb, she's unironically my favourite fantasy author, but this series is trash.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 10:27:39 No.9299705 >>9299067 Good premise and a fun series but he left too much to do in the third book, so the ending feels very rushed as he desperately tries to tie up all the loose ends. Kaden deserved better Fuck Adare

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 10:39:17 No.9299731 The anon that said he tweeting the flowy doo to the author. Any updates??

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 11:22:58 No.9299899 >>9299067 I enjoyed the first book but when the second opened with loads of coincidences and characters doing dumb shit to set up the plot I stopped reading

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 11:24:10 No.9299903 >>9299348 I hated it so much I kinda admire her wasting the entire first book to set up a bait and switch but damn was it trash

Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 11:24:14 No.9299904
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K guys, 3rd time's a charm. Why can't I get into Dune? I had 2 fake starts, I always quit sooner or later. This time's the third time I'm trying to read this. Why is it so off-putting?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 11:27:42 No.9299914 >>9299904 Because it's a bad, outdated book. Why are you trying so hard to like something you don't? There's millions of other books to try, you're just wasting your time.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 11:38:13 No.9299950 >>9299904 Try the audiobook. You can just listen. That's what I did. It's a shit book, but my autism couldn't let me leave it alone.

Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 11:54:29 No.9299997
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>Scalzi had to take Asimov's book promoting the benefits of central planning by an self-designated enlightened minority of intellectuals and turn it into a cultural marxist piece. This Herculean task, akin to preparing tea given boiling water, a container, and a tea bag, tasked Scalzi's vast mental abilities so much that he needed to postpone thinking about thread closure to an unspecified future date.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 12:09:29 No.9300041 >>9299997 it really is sad when you can figure out the exact plot to a book by reading the first 50 pages or so

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 12:34:18 No.9300134 >>9299997 >>9300041 After all that crap I'm afraid to touch his Old man's war, it has pretty good reviews and no mentioning of his sjw bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 12:39:02 No.9300159 >>9298476 >this is the level of reader I'm sharing a thread with

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 12:43:36 No.9300179 File: 121 KB, 544x800, rodney-pike-photoshop-mr-bean-into-famous-paintings-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9300159 >hating the common man

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 12:50:58 No.9300209 >>9300159 >implying you don't read for the pictures

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 13:10:52 No.9300291 >>9300134 The first book in that series is alright I guess. It's like store brand Heinlein.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 13:21:13 No.9300340 File: 169 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] someone give me the quick rundown on scalzi, whoever he is i don't read scifi

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 13:25:10 No.9300360 >>9300340 he's a rapist

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 13:41:35 No.9300437 File: 1008 KB, 1500x768, m8masl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It was ok.

Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 14:10:38 No.9300522

>>9299904
For me it was the name Shaddam that appears in like, the first sentence or so. I could never get over it.
It's like me writing a book in which there's a black emperor named Obemma or something. Idk man, but that Shaddam bullshit turned me off so badly.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 14:32:01 No.9300591 >Every 6 months I remember about Sandersons series >Every 6 months I see it has been delayed another 6 months

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 14:34:49 No.9300601 >>9300600 new >>9300600 thread >>9300600

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 15:31:44 No.9300902 >>9299260 I've read her "Uprooted" and it was shit. Very cliche, almost no interesting concepts, boring and annoying MC.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Mar 27, 2017 18:22:04 No.9301696 Hit me up with Fantasy books which feature Wizard/Magic families having rivalries and shit at Wizard schools.

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