/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.925475]

Evening /lit/ i was wondering if you had any recommendations of books to read when it comes to the IRA/The Troubles. "Hurr Durr IRA are terrorists Englands awesome" books are not preferred as i have already read quite a few and would like to read some from the other perspective. Fiction or Non Fiction i dont mind. Ive already read 50 dead men walking.

Pic slightly related, it was the only NI pic i had

[Anonymous No.925483]

>>925475
You are asking for something so very specific it would be irresponsible not to take advantage of this wonderful tool called Google.

Please do so.

[Anonymous No.925509]

>>925483
well there was no harm in asking, i am using google i just thought id get some people opinions on books they have read

[Anonymous No.925520]

>>925509
Well actually, and I don't mean to be inflamatory or offensive while saying this, there IS harm done in asking. By creating this thread, however well meaning you were (intentions that of course I do not doubt) you end up pushing other more meaningful threads of discussion off the front page (sadly the only page people seem to check anymore) and disturb meaningful content.

Besides that, and what is potentially even more damaging, is that if your thread is successful and indeed someone helps fulfill your request then other people will take notice and will act under the belief that request threads are okay in /lit/ (and more importantly successful) resulting in even more and more recommendation threads.

While this might not be so damaging on the faster boards like /b/ or /v/ here on a slow board, on /lit/, it makes it nearly impossible to have a conversation.

[Anonymous No.925534]

>>925520
just passing through to say that this guy is a fucking faggot.

that is all.

[Anonymous No.925538]

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[7878787 !Sk8M7uVBwg No.925539]

>>925520
oh my god shut the fuck up
recommendation threads are the soul and lifeblood of /lit/ because that's how good books get passed around

jesus christ fuck you ignorant whiny cunt

>it makes it nearly impossible to have a conversation
GOOD. NO ONE WANTS TO TALK TO YOU, FAG.

[Anonymous No.925542]

>>925534
I find your debate, as well as your company, to be thrilling. Thank you for helping to improve the quality of this board, though it is indeed a shame that you are merely "passing through". We are all at a loss both for having been in your absence for so long previous and for what will now be a drought of your insightful downpours.

We will miss you, dear poster.

[Anonymous No.925543]

>>925539
>>925534
thankyou for the support

[Anonymous No.925549]

>Hurr Durr IRA are terrorists
You're going to read a lot of that on account of it being fucking true.

[Anonymous No.925552]

>>925549
maybe to you and yours

[Anonymous No.925553]

>>925475

I bought this book at some little used bookstore in one of the little towns along the Antrim coast. It very plainly and for the most part unbiasedly told the history of NI from its inception and how a Catholic minority was created and marginalized overnight. Was very good overall, but it could've used more info on the Orange Order. On this topic it seemed to assume a certain reader familiarity, which puzzled me. Anyway, you may have already read this, but there you go.

[Anonymous No.925556]

pray for us sinners by patrick taylor was alright, it takes a middle view which is kinda cool

[Anonymous No.925557]

>>925552
No. To everyone.
Fucking americans.

[Anonymous No.925559]

>>925539
Mr. 787878, my you seem to pop up everywhere! I take it though that you have issues with what I am saying, and therefore what I believe constitutes a healthy board. I will try to remain civil, speaking directly to the merits of what you have argued, though it seems you will extend no such courtesy.

First, the notion that recommendation threads are the lifeblood of /lit/ seems not to be an uninformed opinion but is one that is misplaced. Yes, it appears at the moment that most threads on /lit/ are ones where people request books to read and while a very select few might facilitate good discussion a great majority serve as nothing but a means to serve an uninformed poster, who will no doubt come back for more, instead of giving him the necessary tools to catch his own dinner. What I do, what I try to do, is point these people in the right direction, to give them a nudge and tell them why.

Good books cannot be passed around by the coddled, if only the same informed individuals post the same books without the input of newer, fresher, capable and self-sufficient posters than this place becomes an incestuous mess that does nothing but cycle the same books ad nauseum. This method does not develop and inspire new content, it degrades it.

As it so happens, Mr. 787878, recommendations are not the lifeblood of /lit/, they are the lifeblood of /r/. Here, in /lit/ they are a growing cancer that steals away good discussion.

[Anonymous No.925561]

>>925557
guess again im not american or an irish citizen

[Anonymous No.925566]

Frank Herbert, The White Plague

[Anonymous No.925569]

>>925539
Mr. 787878, my you seem to pop up everywhere! I take it though that you have issues with what I am saying, and therefore what I believe constitutes a healthy board. I will try to remain civil, speaking directly to the merits of what you have argued, though it seems you will extend no such courtesy.

First, the notion that recommendation threads are the lifeblood of /lit/ seems not to be an uninformed opinion but is one that is misplaced. Yes, it appears at the moment that most threads on /lit/ are ones where people request books to read and while a very select few might facilitate good discussion a great majority act as nothing but a means to serve an uninformed poster some fish, who will no doubt come back for more, instead of giving him the necessary tools to catch his own dinner. What I do, what I try to do, is point these people in the right direction, to give them a nudge and tell them why.

Good books cannot be passed around by the coddled, if only the same informed individuals post the same books without the input of newer, fresher, capable and self-sufficient posters than this place becomes an incestuous mess that does nothing but cycle the same books ad nauseum. This method does not develop and inspire new content, it degrades it.

As it so happens, Mr. 787878, recommendations are not the lifeblood of /lit/, they are the lifeblood of /r/. Here, in /lit/ they are a growing cancer that steals away good discussion.

[Anonymous No.925574]

>>925566
nice thanks

>>925553
think i read that once wasnt too bad

[Anonymous No.925576]

>Good books cannot be passed around by the coddled, if only the same informed individuals post the same books without the input of newer, fresher, capable and self-sufficient posters than this place becomes an incestuous mess that does nothing but cycle the same books ad nauseum. This method does not develop and inspire new content, it degrades it.

[Anonymous No.925580]

>"What I do, what I try to do, is point these people in the right direction, to give them a nudge and tell them why."
>implying youre not contrubuting to recommendation threads then bitching about them
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[Anonymous No.925581]

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[Anonymous No.925582]

>>925569
Well said
>>925576
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[Anonymous No.925589]

>>925576
Sorry, what I meant to say is that if people become accustomed to finding books based on recommendations instead of their own research then we create a cycle of dependency where they keep coming back for more. The individuals who suggested the book, as well the the people who received that recommendation would then, to all subsequent requests, recommend that same book. Content becomes repetitive, incestuous, and boring.

If you want to develop new content, discussion of new books, you have to teach people to be able to find books of interest on their own. In this situation, people find books out there and, excited about their new discovery, would bring that knowledge here for discussion. Word catches on about this new book, discussion ensues and someone says "hey, this book reminds me of this other great book, you should try it out" and so on. Creation of positive content.

I hope that made things more clear, I never meant to be cryptic.

[Anonymous No.925596]

>>925580
I am contributing, of this I never denied. My contributions, however, are not made towards creating a /lit/ that is filled with "hey what is a good book to read" but more "hey, this is a great book to read, you should check it out".

I am just trying my best. Why what I am doing is so offensive is beyond my small brain to comprehend.

[Anonymous No.925605]

>>925520
>>925569
>>925589
>>925596
why don't you just hide the thread instead of typing out a whole essay

[Anonymous No.925610]

>>925605
>>925605
seconded

[Anonymous No.925615]

>>925610
>>925605
Hiding the thread does not help generate good content, it just sweeps the bad under the rug and as I have stated earlier, even encourages more.

I am taking a proactive approach because I care.

[Anonymous No.925621]

>>925615
I understand, but sage posts really don't do anything
unfortunately, you aren't gonna stop shitty threads from being made
the only thing you can do is hide the thread and hope nobody contributes

[Anonymous No.925626]

>>925621
Again, I much prefer the proactive approach.

I am not sure what you mean when referring to the sages, I am merely using them as a measure of courtesy. My posts, I feel, are not worth bumping the thread over considering they neither directly fulfill the op's request and apparently offend people.

I would love to just hide the threads and expect the problem to just go away, something I have done for a great long while now, but the situation simply gets worse and worse. I am watching as the community I helped build is becoming desolate, if this is what little I can do to oppose the corrosion then so be it.

[Anonymous No.925633]

Anything by Bobby Sands is recommendable.
"A Day in my Life" is particularly good.