Is this a legit/good guide if want to be redpilled?

[Anonymous No.9236864]

So I want to be redpilled. I mean, I am redpilled already, I just want to take it to the next level. What are your opinions on these books/this guide? What would you change? Why?

[Anonymous No.9236868]

>>9236864
Part 2

[Anonymous No.9236887]

The order is all messed up

Why is meditations on the same tier as those other difficult texts for example?

[Anonymous No.9236905]

>>9236864
a lot of these books are really good essentials. They probably won't 'redpill' you though- in fact, after you've read some of them you might learn that the 'redpill' is a mostly inconsistent and sometimes nonsensical view which serves the sole purpose of fueling the elitist's ego

[Anonymous No.9236909]

>>9236864
Why religious texts? And why Aristotle?

Both are useless.

>>9236887
This guy is right.

>>9236905
You sound dumb as hell.

[Anonymous No.9236948]

>>9236864
It makes very little sense as a lit and forgets many essentials so the reader will be oblivious to both historical context and basic ideas. The author probably didn't read half of those and it's just name-dropping. Reading Augustine for political philosophy for example is mostly a waste, not only because it is mostly theology and to a lesser degree philosophy, but it requires extensive understanding of Church as an institution and platonic, neoplatonic and stoic philosophy. I'm unsure to where the list is supposed to lead, there's no coherent pattern. As something which leads you into political philosophy it does nothing but gice a few popular titles, it forgets the metaphysics behind much of it, it has no order and the ideas in it are for a large part impossible to coherently connect within a single even loosely connected school.

[Anonymous No.9236956]

>>9236909
>Be me
>Student of Platon
>Continueing the work of my master by forming the Western politics
>Be called useless after 2500 years by someone who probably never read a book of mine

[Anonymous No.9236957]

>>9236905
Dude, don't spoil the surprise :^)

[Anonymous No.9236963]

>>9236948
>forgets many essentials
Can I ask you to name of few, please?

[Anonymous No.9236984]

>>9236963
Well for starters not including at least a large part of Plato such as Symposium, Timaeus, Laws, Republic and Phaedo and at least Politics and Metaphysics from Aristotle is extremely odd, as they are the foundation of Western philosophy in general and far more relevant within reactionary circles.
Then there's the whole middle ages thing which has Aquinas if nothing else, Suarez as the thinker behind Hugo Grotius, Tocqueville as essential liberal philosophy, Locke as the main influence on the American revolution and so on. It's completely unsystematic. Philosophy is done from beginning, not from Hobbes.

[Anonymous No.9237158]

>no marx

0/10 Honestly, whoever made this should be ashamed.

[Anonymous No.9237163]

>>9236868
>become politically literate, but you can only choose right-of-centre authors
Lmao

[Anonymous No.9237204]

>>9236864
>Reading Kant's Critiques without reading Prolegomena Foundations on the metaphysics of morals
>No Judgment

Thanks /pol/

[Anonymous No.9238474]

>>9237158
Here's your (You)

[Anonymous No.9238515]

>>9236948
>expects coherency from a /pol/ack

[Anonymous No.9238548]

>>9236864

>KJV
>Not Douay–Rheims

[Anonymous No.9238728]

>>9236956
Protips:

Men have more teeth than women.

Heavy objects fall faster than light objects.

Men's blood is hotter than women's blood.

There are people who are naturally born to be slaves, and it is just and right to enslave them.

The earth is the center of the universe.

The earth and everything in it existed for all eternity and will exist for all eternity.

Some animals spontaneously come into being from mud and earth; they don't reproduce.

The natural state for all objects is to be at rest; they require constant application of force to move.

There are a total of seven heavenly bodies, which are perfect and never change.

The heart is the organ of reason and intellect.

The function of the brain is to cool the blood.

>Be me
>Read Aristotle in Greek
>Utterly useless
>Warn others
>Get greentexted
>No argument
>Useless comment defending useless philosopher

[Anonymous No.9239934]

go more esoteric

[Anonymous No.9240090]

>>9239934
cool, the luddpill

[Anonymous No.9240114]

>>9238728
Oh my, look at that.

[Anonymous No.9240130]

>>9236864
the 'tiers' make absolutely no sense
one of the most haphazard lists ive ever seen

[Anonymous No.9240132]

>>9238728
>When an autist reads philosophy

[Anonymous No.9240133]

>>9236956
the neo-platonists carried on the work of Plato, not Aretardstotle and the peripatetics

[Anonymous No.9240135]

>>9238728
>There are people who are naturally born to be slaves, and it is just and right to enslave them.
>>9238728
>The earth and everything in it existed for all eternity and will exist for all eternity.


Both correct

[Anonymous No.9240136]

>>9236864
Just read the Bible, instead, you twink faggot.

[Anonymous No.9240141]

>>9240136
t. Schlomo Shekelstien

[Anonymous No.9240150]

>>9239934
dropped as soon as I saw Ted K

[Anonymous No.9240153]

>>9236864
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.9240172]

>>9236909
>Why religious texts?
The Torah and the New Testament are part of western canon. Almost all of the Great Books refer to them.

[Anonymous No.9240210]

>>9236864
>>9236868
Its really bad
>Hobbes' Leviathan recommended alongside Animal Farm as something entry level
>recommending The Republic and Aristotle's Politics without any prior Greeks
>Marcus Aurelius' Meditations recommended after fucking City of God and Capital and alongside Kant, Hegel, Heidegger and Adorno+Horkheimer
>that whole "libertarian right" section
>that fascism + nazism section including Spengler (and not even his work Prussiandom and Socialism!) as well as Dugin, Sorel and including Cioran as a core text for whatever reason
>reactionary right barely having as many staple texts as it could have (Spengler belongs here), including too much fiction and obscure shit like biocentric worldview instead of something relevant like historian John Lukacs or Friedrich Reck as a contrast to Nazism + right-wing populism

yikes

[Anonymous No.9240215]

The ultimate redpill.

[Anonymous No.9240365]

>>9236864
>>9236868

Part One is really uneven. If the focus is a broad understanding of philosophy (minus the "red-pilled" books saved for the second part), then you don't need to read Calvin or Adorno/Horkheimer, but you should read other key theorists like Bentham, Wollstonecraft, Bakunin, Weber, Lenin, Arendt, Sartre, de Beauvoir, Rawls, Fanon, Foucault, Marcuse, & Habermas. The goal of being red-pilled is to be "enlightened," which you cannot do if you are ignorant of the arguments of you opponents/critics. Also, The Genealogy of Morals is far more important than Twilight (of the Idols), the Philosophy of Right is more important than Hegel's Encyclopedia, and it misses Rousseau's second discourse.

Part 2 is even worse. It contains the spectrum from serious scholarship (Burke, Hayek, Schmidt) to irrelevant (Paul, Rand, Tolkien, Mosely, Goebbels)

[Anonymous No.9240449]

>>9236864
>Reading Aristotle's Politics before the Nichomachean Ethics

[Anonymous No.9240619]

>no Evola

[Anonymous No.9240776]

>>9237158

-3/10 trolling attempt

Marx was included in the first photo

[Anonymous No.9240811]

The first is okay for some essentials. There's no books there I'd say aren't worth reading (except maybe Orwell) but the order is a bit fucked.

Like Das Kapital is less difficult than Meditations? Seriously?

>>9236868
This one absolutely sucks though.

Here's a proper guide to reactionary/fascist literature. I couldn't help you with libertarianism though (not that libertarians are redpilled anyway).

I'd also advise looking into the writings of Ayatollah Khomeini.

[Anonymous No.9240821]

>>9236868
The End Game isn't so bad. Evola is some of the greatest works I've ever read in my entire life.

[Anonymous No.9240825]

>>9236864
>/pol/
>redpilled
Topfuckingkek

[Anonymous No.9240843]

>>9238728
Muh dik
Who is this semen demon

[Anonymous No.9241530]

https://mega.nz/#F!B4dB2SzQ!h_pMC30v2a_y31iD0dy0sg

I'm moonman, representing white power.
I stack bodies higher than Trump Tower.
Control the memes, control the planet,
Facism is back and the left can't stand it.

[Anonymous No.9241556]

>>9238728
do you really not see the flaw with this argument? everybody gets some things drastically wrong but to focus on that instead of what they say correctly is just silly

[Anonymous No.9241624]

>>9236868
>dugin at the bottom of the fascist / natsoc tree
is this a fucking joke

[Anonymous No.9241642]

>>9236864
>>9236868
The books themselves are fine, but it's just a generic list of classics with no focus at all.

Why the fuck would you go

Republic -> New Testament -> The Prince

As a starting point?

[Anonymous No.9241652]

>>9236864
>So I want to be redpilled. I mean, I am redpilled already, I just want to take it to the next level. What are your opinions on these books/this guide?
It's bad.

Reading books will de-redpill you immediately. Just stick with /pol/ and hate-fapping to blacked.

[Anonymous No.9241848]

>>9236868
>Rothbard, Hoppe, Paul and Rand

Why would someone who knows none of the good libertarian authors make a list like this?

[Anonymous No.9241861]

>>9241848
Because the guy who made this list obviously read few if any of the books on it.

[Anonymous No.9243259]

>>9236864
>>9236868
not bad but could be a little more patrician, kaczynski is overrated as hell and if you take him as "redpilled" on anything you're essentially wanting to be wrong
>>9239934
nice but still needs work, not enough virilio

[Anonymous No.9243718]

>>9236864
Redpilled means something someone likes. When /pol/ asks if /ourguy/ is redpilled they are asking if they like the person. When someone on /pol/ says that someone is redpilled they are saying they like the person. A lot of the books on that list are good though.

[Anonymous No.9243761]

>>9238728
>Men have more teeth than women.
If your woman talks back, there's a good chance this is true

>There are people who are naturally born to be slaves, and it is just and right to enslave them.
Correct

>The earth is the center of the universe.
Since we don't know of any real center, we might as well consider it to be the place we observe from. Just like things are to the right and left of us, you know?

[Anonymous No.9243827]

>>9240811
Several of those suggestions with their attached labels are no better than >>9236868

[Anonymous No.9243931]

>>9236868
not enough plato

[Anonymous No.9244448]

>>9241556
>>9238728

it's so funny how stupid this guy is.

"Democritus predicted atoms, but he got other stuff wrong so therefore our things aren't made of atoms"

[Anonymous No.9244572]

>>9240215
is this one about land value taxes?

[Anonymous No.9244587]

>/pol/
>reading

[Anonymous No.9244608]

>>9236864
>>9236868
part 2 is terrible, while part 1 requires so much study i doubt anyone on pol has read more then 2 books out of tier 3.

All books in part 1 are books that are the ultimate magnus opus of every respective writer, and every writer is the most famous writer in his discipline or era, which is how you know whoever made the picture just compiled this shit by reading wikipedia instead of books.

[Anonymous No.9244611]

>>9236909
>Religious texts
>Useless

Ohh dear.

[Anonymous No.9244629]

>>9240619
Pg. 2, at the bottom. No RATMW, though.

[Anonymous No.9244635]

>>9236864
>leviathan next to le animal farm
terrible

[Anonymous No.9244711]

>>9244587
>/lit/
>reading

[Anonymous No.9244785]

>>9236864
>... participating into any discussion about politics.
>participating into

[Anonymous No.9244813]

have the first two critiques and not the third.

faggots

[Anonymous No.9244829]

>>9236864
If you want to discuss redpills, whatever form they might take, keep it on the board dedicated to politics. There are enough faggots shitting up discussion by bringing politics into everything as it is, and cancer like this is what draws them to this board.

I also came up with a neat pseodo-intellectual quote to go along with my elitist post: There is a /lit/ in politics but there is no /pol/ in literature.

Now go back to your containment board.

[Anonymous No.9244837]

>>9236864
>>9236868
These lists make no sense. I can guarantee whoever made them has not even read half of these texts.

[Anonymous No.9244861]

>>9244829
Too lazy to repost because I misspelled pseudo, so I'll just pretend that it's a meta-commentary on pseudo-intellectuals, because they are the sort of people who would use words they can neither define nor write.

[Anonymous No.9244883]

>>9236864
Retard doesn't know that Orwell was a socialist. Try again leftist faggot

[Anonymous No.9244933]

This really is the final red pill. Educate yourselves.

[Anonymous No.9244982]

>>9236864
Just read the bad goy trilogy of Revolt Against the Modern World, The Bell Curve, and The Culture of Critique.

[Anonymous No.9245089]

>the most red-pilled book ever

[Anonymous No.9246551]

>>9236909
Would buy the "CHILD TRAFFIKER" one desu

[Anonymous No.9246965]

>>9240150
Feel free to refute any of his premises about why Industrial society is harmful to man then

[Anonymous No.9248295]

>>9241652
Accurate

[Anonymous No.9248342]

>>9236868
What the fuck if the call to read Foucault's Pendulum on about?

[Anonymous No.9248365]

>>9236864
Tier 2 looks boring as shit. It is stuff that one tangentially picks up while they live their lives and are covered in courses on the subject You can pick up all that stuff without explicitly reading any of it.

Tier Most of tier three is good reading. Kant Hume and Hegel are dense as shit. You're better off taking a philosophy course that covers them.

[Anonymous No.9248368]

>>9236864
>George Orwell
>red pill

/Pol/ is a special kind of stupid, huh?

[Anonymous No.9248385]

>>9248368
They're retards.

[Anonymous No.9248386]

>>9248368
His work permeates contemporary (plebby) political thought. One should read it just so you know what people (plebby ones) are on about.

It's supposed to be standard babby's first political commentary, that you read in high-school.

[Anonymous No.9248398]

>>9248365
This is all assuming you're taking some real university level courses on history, philosophy, and economics.

[Anonymous No.9248501]

>>9248386
My point was George Orwell was a fucking libertarian socialist. He was against totalitarian socialism and Marxism, not socialism as a whole.

[Anonymous No.9248535]

>>9238548
>>Not Douay–Rheims
Fucking pedos.

[Anonymous No.9248763]

>>9244611
Proof otherwise?

[Anonymous No.9248777]

>>9244448
>>9241556
Aristotle didn't predict anything. Or contribute anything.

Do you see the flaw in your conjectures?

Democritus was 1/8 right about a thing, so... what? Read his treatise on politics?

What did Aristotle contribute?