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Post a writer you've always wanted to try. Other Anons tell you what to expect.

I'll start.

>> No.9229620

one of the best

>> No.9229652

>>9229620
>one of the best
yup. Start with either his recent short stories, or his novels chronologically from White Noise

>> No.9229667
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9229667

I'll meme

>> No.9229671

>>9229667
He's great.

>Menander

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>> No.9230017

I really want to read William Gass - and i'll admit the memes helped

>> No.9230076

>>9230009
Like DFW but safer, if that makes any sense. I think his narration is wonderful, but I've only read The Corrections

>> No.9230092
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9230092

where 2 start

>> No.9230109

>>9230092
By fondling the words.

Fondle them good with your mind mouth

>> No.9230279

>>9230092
Try Sebastian Knight or Speak Memory to dip your toe in, or jump right into The Gift, Pale Fire, or Lolita.

>> No.9230291

Mishima

>> No.9230387

>>9230291
He's so good holy shit
The Sound of Waves was so satisfying--start with that

>> No.9230390

>>9229652
>suggesting white noise over ratners star or the players

dun fugged up

>> No.9231045

>>9230390
I'm suggesting where OP should start, since delillollipop is new to him. You wouldn't make GR as your first pynchon outing.

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>> No.9231674

>meme writer
>hory shiet he so good
Does anyone read on this board at all?

>> No.9231694

>>9230387
I thought sound of waves was normie core for Mishima. To really get Mishima you should read some of his more twisted and perverse stuff like Confessions of a Mask, Temple of the Golden Pavillion, The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea or Runaway Horses.

>> No.9231842

>>9229667
One of the greatest writers of the 20th century. All of his works are kinda samey, but there is so much passion and rage about "the mechanization of the arts" (it's important that you kinda feel, at least sympatethic to this theme, because his work is a constant rant about it) and his characters are so great that, in the end, you won't mind to be reading the same things over and over again. Try "JR", it's his best book.

>> No.9231865

>>9231694
That's why Mishima's so good. The Sound of Waves is a perfectly weighted, comfy romance, Confessions is mad, riveting and intense, Temple is a serious novel of ideas woven around a compelling plot; Patriotism is a violent literary shot of absinthe. His weird shit is great and so's his less weird shit.

>> No.9232023

>>9231045
Yes you would. Most people dont feel the need to treat books like levels in a video game

>> No.9232317
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9232317

Should I start with TTSS with this author?

>> No.9232324

>>9231667
Important, but not a total joy to read.
>>9231674
Sad anon

>> No.9232337

>>9232023
Don't be condescending. Some authors benefit from certain reading order, it allows the reader to unpack their ideas in a more satisfying way, and to better understand the process the author's mind went through.
For example, Sabato's main ouevre makes immeasurably more sense when read like this: El Túnel - Sobre héroes y Tumbas - Abaddón, el Exterminador.

>> No.9232370

Ivan Turgenev

>> No.9232823
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9232823

Seems too meme

>> No.9232895

>>9229667
The Recognitions. JR may be too difficult as you've got to get the "rhythm" of it.

>> No.9232907

>>9232823
Pynchon's cool. He's like an actually insightful, intelligent version of the beat poets. He is pretty funny, too.

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It is hard to find decent translations of his work.

>> No.9233714
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>> No.9233721

>>9232823
start with the rainbow, baby stepping in is not going to give you the experience you want

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>> No.9233776

>>9233758
Are you asking regarding Vollmann?

Europe Central is your best bet, or start the Seven Stories series, Ice Shirt or Fathers and Crows.

>> No.9233784

>>9230092
Def Pnin.

>> No.9233809

>>9229614
he reminds me kind of a more clever more poignant less gruff raymond carver.

Hes tres good.

>> No.9233815

>>9229614
Flaubert

>>9232823
Pynchon has some lovely prose, if you're into the time periods he writes about it's great reading.

>> No.9233836

Faulkner

>> No.9233868

>>9232370
sportsman's sketches >>>>>> fathers and sons

the former is one of the best short story collections of all time, the latter is an OK social commentary - fine if you're really into old Russia, but its no artistic revelation. I probably wouldn't have even read anything else by him if I started with Fathers.

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Is she really that good or is she hyped for the obvious reason?

>> No.9233956
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9233956

Mark Z. Danielwski.

>> No.9233959

>>9233944
Read the first book, and maybe some of her other work, but the rest of the series wasn't worth reading.

>> No.9233962

>>9233956
Danielewski*

>> No.9233966
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9233966

Philip Roth

>> No.9233978

>>9233966
Read Sabbath's Theater. Read nothing else. If you will ignore my advice, fine, settle on Portnoy's Complaint. Then, really, don't go any further.

>> No.9233988

Jean Genet and WS Burroughs

>> No.9233991

>>9233966
i loved portnoys complaint but its all one man's whining at an office. i can see why no woman would understand this book too, its pretty much just male confusion.

>> No.9234048

>>9233815
Ridiculously beautiful and luxurious in language.
Incredibly human (not necessarily the most pleasant sides) or in Salammbo and some of the short stories incredibly visual and exotic.

>> No.9234067

>>9229614

>Post a writer you've always wanted to try

I like the idea OP but I don't get it. If you really want to try an author then stop shit posting on this Anatolian snow ploughing forum and do it.

>> No.9234075

>>9230092
Just start with Lolita. It's first rate Nabokov and also became a bestseller. Even giga plebs have read and enjoyed it.

>> No.9234082

Pushkin

>> No.9234087

>>9234082
Foot fetish.

>> No.9234096

>>9234067
OP here, I ordered The Angel Esmeralda thanks to >>9229652
I'll start it tomorrow.

>> No.9234225

>>9233978
what is reason to stop on one book?. I read portnoys complaint and I also want to read his other books.

>> No.9234259

>>9233988

Utter degenerate low life of the mid-20th century. Evocative for its time but drab by modern standards as the content is too lame in comparison to Internet shock videos but too objectionable and incoherent to otherwise warrant any merit of its own.

Just read Pynchon or something. Or read beatnik poetry. Or Bukowski.

>> No.9234313

>>9234096
Have fun. Just know that some of the earlier ones are lame (imo). But stories like "Hammer and Sickle" and "Midnight in Dostoevsky" are excellent, and capture the sort of human consciousness framed through intensified systems that he gets at in his longer works.

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9234334

Philip K Dick thought Dhalgren was a bad book. Is there a better place to start?

>> No.9234337

>>9234096
Human moments in ww3 has the greatest last paragraph ive ever read. Hammer and sickle is also brilliant

>> No.9234446

>>9234096

Well, that's fair enough then. I've read that collection actually and it's pretty decent. I really like the story 'Baader-Meinhof' -- a very uneasy story.

Honestly, if you like it then check out White Noise or Libra next. Or fuck it, skip straight to Underworld. All's good in the hood.

>> No.9234454

>>9234446

Oh, and if anybody wants to read it:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002/04/01/baader-meinhof

>> No.9234476

>>9234096
Underworld is the greatest novel of the postmodernist american writers.

>> No.9234506

>>9234334
I have only read Ubik, I recommend it.

>> No.9234509

>>9232317
That or The Spy Who Came In from the Cold. He's all about spies as bueraucrats and makers of shady information exchanges, not the sort of pulp James Bond action stuff a lot of authors go in for.

>> No.9235159

>>9230017
I've only read a collection of his short stories, in the heart of the heart of the country was good as fuck, icicles was ok, but everything else was pretty lukewarm, idk probably should have started w/ omensetter's luck

>> No.9235270

>>9235159
what about pedersen kid? One of the great short stories of all time

>> No.9235328

>>9235270
Ahh, that was the name, I was considering expending some effort to remember the name but I decided against doing so and omitted it. The ending to that story was feverish as fuck

>> No.9235332

>Burroughs post-Junkie
>Hemingway
>Dostoevsky (other than C&P)
>HP Lovecraft

I don't really know where to start with either of these. I read Junkie and loved it, but I heard that his style in later novels is starkly different.

Also the only Dostoevsky novel I read was C&P but that was in high school so I'd be down to reread it.

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>>9235332
here you go.

>> No.9235526

>>9234334
I've only read "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" And I do recommend it. It's been a while since I've last read it though.

>> No.9235626

>>9234259

I hope you're talking about Burroughs and not Genet.

For Genet, start with Our Lady of the Flowers.

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I want to start with this guy some place that will ease me into his work. Years ago I tried reading The Unnameable without knowing anything about the book or its author. I didn't make it further than a quarter of the way through. I didn't dislike it though, I just wasn't in the mood for anything like that and I had no idea I was diving right off the deep end. What's a better place to start?

>> No.9235973

>>9235952
1. Proust
2. Schopenhauer
3. Proust by Beckett
4. Plays
5. Novels

>> No.9236088
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9236088

What about him?

>> No.9236115

>>9234259
Burroughs play with language goes beyond shock value, worth reading if you're interested in the abject.

Most people who write works that are repulsive, those that are well-received/popularly known at least, usually have more going for them than that alone.

>> No.9236395

>>9233956
Who is that?

>> No.9236450

>>9235952
If you want plays, try Waiting for Godot, or Endgame. You can find a lot of them on Youtube. Not I is another great, short one.

If you want novels, start with Murphy, or Molloy (first in the trilogy). The Unnamable is probably the worst place to start desu.

>> No.9236525

>>9233966
The Human Stain is based

>> No.9236542

>>9233966
American Pastoral is my favorite. The Human Stain is also very good and Portnoy's Complaint is quite amusing.

>> No.9237108

Anything on Danielewski, mates?

>> No.9237110

>>9233978
>>9233991
>>9236525
>>9236542
Many thanks!

>> No.9237116
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Elenita Poniatowska

>> No.9237127

>>9235952
more pricks than kicks if you've read dante is enjoyable

>> No.9237153

>>9234087
nvm I will never read Pushkin

>> No.9237160

>>9237116
momiatowska

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Clarice.

also is the english translation okay?

>> No.9238070

>>9233956
>>9233962
>>9237108
>>9237193
I mean, I guess the only book he's known for? Since you want an answer so bad.

>> No.9238106

>>9233836
The Sound and the Fury is a stunning work of genius.

>> No.9239845

>>9237193
expect unexpected

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all i kno is the this is water speech, it almost made me cry
im scared /lit/

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>>9239926
You'll be OK.

Just read IJ.

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>>9229614
Non riesco bene a leggere epica, mi sento in colpa a leggere cose che potrebbero piacermi ma di cui ho bisogno un dizionario per capirne il contenuto. Non voglio rallentare una lettura e rischiare di rovinarla.

>> No.9241935

>>9234334
In this order
>Man in the High Castle
>Martian Time-Slip
>Do Androids
>Ubik
>Divine Trilogy

>> No.9242934

>>9238064
I've only read the passion according to G.H., i enjoyed it and i'm thinking of ordering Near to the wild heart.