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ITT: favorite quotes

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>> No.9200147

>>9200135
If you have a Plan B you don't have a Plan A.

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The voice of a lost generation

>> No.9200155

"ITT: favorite quotes" -- OP

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>>9200152

>> No.9200286

"Hurt people hurt people." - Andrew Garfield

>> No.9200290

>>9200286
lmao that's shit

>> No.9200301

>>9200290
You seem hurt, friend.

What about this one? “The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.” -Friedrich Nietzsche

>> No.9200306

>>9200301
That's good ;)

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Dosto makes me realize I have no idea what's good or even desirable.

>> No.9200346

>The human mind is generally far more eager to praise and dispraise than to describe and define. It wants to make every distinction a distinction of value; hence those fatal critics who can never point out the differing quality of two poets without putting them in an order of preference as if they were candidates for a prize.
—C.S. Lewis

>> No.9200354

>>9200135
that's a good one

>> No.9200364

>>9200144
Really jogs your noggin

>> No.9200380

>>9200314
What is freedom then?

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>> No.9200386

>>9200380
A flag.

>> No.9200390

>>9200380
an illusion, it doesn't exist

>> No.9200393

>>9200382
>Baudrillard
That's been well-known for centuries.

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>> No.9200398

>>9200380
a thought without words

>> No.9200400

>>9200397
Yeah, better to be a mill satisfied than a stuart dissatisfied

>> No.9200401

>>9200397
elaborate

>> No.9200402
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>>9200398
>>9200390
>>9200386
None of these answers are very satisfying...

>> No.9200411

'Happiness is a new idea in Europe'
-- Louis de Saint-Just

>a not so interesting quote sometimes achieves a certain something when who said it is taken into consideration..

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favorites

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>>9200393
True. And honestly, it's not even the kind of sentiment I associate with him. But fuck it, he said it and it's still a good line.

Thread needs more Nietzsche in it.

>> No.9200418

>>9200413
they're pretty bad desu

>> No.9200422

>>9200418
pleb

>> No.9200427

>>9200413
Why doesn't Kierkegaard's wiki say anything about him playing basketball???

I smell bullshit.

>> No.9200434

'If you fail to grasp life, it will elude you. If you do grasp it, it will elude you anyway.'
--Sarah Bakewell
>in her book on Montaigne

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>>9200400
>>9200401
Be virtuous and a failure when you can't be virtuous and a success. Integrity is worth more than success, be it material or whatever.

>> No.9200460

'The heart wants what it wants or else it doesn't care.'
--Emily Dickinson
>selected Letters

>> No.9200467

>>9200451
>Integrity is worth more than success
why?

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>> No.9200476

>>9200417
'That which does not destroy me strengthens me.' -Nietzsche
>a classic

>> No.9200480

>>9200467
Ask yourself that when you've 'succeeded'

>> No.9200485

>>9200467
It isn't. It's a shitty meme thought up by unsuccesful people looking for excuses.
>I may be a highschool dropout but at least I have integrity!

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Can you guys explain me this one? I don't get it

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9200496

the duke is harsh but fair

>> No.9200498

>>9200485
I mean...Mills was pretty successful. And Dostoyevsky is basically saying the same thing here
>>9200314
And it basically captures Nietzsche's idea on human struggle too. Sure the idea is misused as an excuse on our mongolian basket weaving consortium, but that doesn't mean it's without merit or truth.

>> No.9200499

>>9200487
If you can't act on what you think, then frustration=torture. It's an interesting quote.

>> No.9200508

>>9200499
But why a frustrated mind would be superior? I'm confused

>> No.9200514

>>9200346
Great quote. I'm also annoyed by how when people are comparing two or more things, they try to rank them and turn it into a competition. Such an american thing to do.

>> No.9200528

>>9200514
>Such an american thing to do
true

>> No.9200534

>>9200508
That's an interesting part of it. It is addressed to all who have good thoughts (and he takes nothing away from good thinkers) but, if you cannot act, write, whatever, this mind with superior thoughts is going to suffer.

>> No.9200545

>>9200508
Frustrated minds aren't necessarily superior, and superior minds aren't necessarily frustrated. But for a superior mind paralysis or inactivity can be tortuous.

>> No.9200547

>>9200534
Now I'm starting to see it, thank you

>> No.9200550

>>9200545
>>9200547

>> No.9200553

>>9200393
Oh shit, I thought it said Baudelaire first. Didn't he write an essay on this exact topic?

>> No.9200558

>>9200508
Imagine if you locked Einstein or Mozart in a cage without materials

>> No.9200562

>>9200558
Surely they wouldn't be superior minds

>> No.9200592

>>9200562
once they were at their peak development of superiority, surely your mind is not superior if you could not intuit these were the implications we were getting at

>> No.9200598

“Whereas the beautiful is limited, the sublime is limitless, so that the mind in the presence of the sublime, attempting to imagine what it cannot, has pain in the failure but pleasure in contemplating the immensity of the attempt”

Critique of Pure Reason

>> No.9200610

>>9200514
>Such an american thing to do.
Did you just rank things in a comparison, anon?

>> No.9200628

>>9200144
We didn't ban shoes though

>> No.9200632

>>9200144
I'm pretty sure it's illegal to have a gun on a school campus, they don't even let me smoke.

>> No.9200633

http://www.e-reading.club/bookreader.php/140562/Rice_-_The_Claiming_Of_Sleeping_Beauty.pdf

everything the prince says..

>> No.9200641

>>9200553
I've only heard Rimbaud's version, “Genius is the recovery of childhood at will.”

>> No.9200642

>>9200598
Is the sublime, not a feature of the beautiful? Is the sublime, not the feeling beauty offers? Is sublimity not beautiful? Cmon Kant... get your shit together

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Dosto makes being a christ-cuck look good. I honestly envy his convictions and pity myself for my own inability to believe anything.

>> No.9200705

>>9200641
Oh, you're right, i confuse the two.

>> No.9200708

>>9200155
an instant classic

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>>9200553
>>9200641
Seems to have been a fairly commonly held idea.

>> No.9200736

>>9200417
nietzsche woke af

>> No.9200762

>>9200173
It can be yours if you move to the panhandle of TX friend. Go for those star filled skies, dreamer.

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>>9200736

>> No.9200770

>>9200439
fuck

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My sweet naughty little fuckbird,
Here is another note to buy pretty drawers or stockings or garters. Buy whorish drawers, love, and be sure you sprinkle the legs of them with some nice scent and also discolour them just a little behind.
You seem anxious to know how I received your letter which you say is worse than mine. How is it worse than mine, love? Yes, it is worse in one part or two. I mean the part where you say what you will do with your tongue (I don’t mean sucking me off) and in that lovely word you write so big and underline, you little blackguard. It is thrilling to hear that word (and one or two others you have not written) on a girl’s lips. But I wish you spoke of yourself and not of me. Write me a long long letter, full of that and other things, about yourself, darling. You know now how to give me a cockstand. Tell me the smallest things about yourself so long as they are obscene and secret and filthy. Write nothing else. Let every sentence be full of dirty immodest words and sounds. They are all lovely to hear and to see on paper even but the dirtiest are the most beautiful.
The two parts of your body which do dirty things are the loveliest to me. I prefer your arse, darling, to your bubbies because it does such a dirty thing. I love your cunt not so much because it is the part I block but because it does another dirty thing. I could lie frigging all day looking at the divine word you wrote and at the thing you said you would do with your tongue. I wish I could hear your lips spluttering those heavenly exciting filthy words, see your mouth making dirty sounds and noises, feel your body wriggling under me, hear and smell the dirty fat girlish farts going pop pop out of your pretty bare girlish bum and fuck fuck fuck fuck my naughty little hot fuckbird’s cunt for ever.
I am happy now, because my little whore tells me she wants me to roger her arseways and wants me to fuck her mouth and wants to unbutton me and pull out my mickey and suck it off like a teat. More and dirtier than this she wants to do, my little naked fucker, my naughty wriggling little frigger, my sweet dirty little farter.
Goodnight, my little cuntie I am going to lie down and pull at myself till I come. Write more and dirtier, darling. Tickle your little cockey while you write to make you say worse and worse. Write the dirty words big and underline them and kiss them and hold them for a moment to your sweet hot cunt, darling, and also pull up your dress a moment and hold them in under your dear little farting bum. Do more if you wish and send the letter then to me, my darling brown-arsed fuckbird.
- James "Jim" Joyce

>> No.9200779

>>9200417
>redpilled

>> No.9200813

>>9200144
Really fires my neurons...

>> No.9200899

>>9200632
>being this retarded

>> No.9200941

>>9200417

once you're here, you're here forever

>> No.9200970

>>9200776
oh

>> No.9200997

>>9200776
>my darling brown-arsed fuckbird.
what did he mean by this

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>>9200776

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>> No.9201042

>>9200997
>>9200776
>also discolour them just a little behind
he wants her to fart so much that shit particles stain her asshole and panties

>> No.9201048

>>9200776
That's real?

>> No.9201057

>>9200776
>Tickle your little cockey
what in hell did he mean by this

was nora a trap?

>> No.9201084

>>9200451
eh thats not exactly what it means

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>>9200152
I don't want that to be me

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rly gets to me

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>> No.9201121

>>9200135
but venice is a fuckin cesspool

>> No.9201134

>>9200152
I got a feels from this

>> No.9201139

>>9200776
There's something kind of sad about these, that they lived in time with such constrained social etiquette and manners that a silly letter like this would actually get them super horny. If a girl sent me something like this I'd lose my shit laughing

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>>9200776
>when joyce's secret dirty smut letters are more /lit/ than anything you've ever earnestly written

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>>9200144

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>>9200135
"His life had been reduced to a simplistic blur, like the trails in the air left by people on fire."

-Dennis Cooper in the novel Frisk

>> No.9201167

>>9200152
>tfw living in the society of the spectacle

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>>9201139
>If a girl sent me something like this I'd lose my shit laughing
and this is why you're alone, Anon

>not appreciating your girl's perversions

t. female representative of lit

>> No.9201198

>“I’m very proud of my gold pocket watch. My grandfather, on his deathbed, sold me this watch”
Woody Allen

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I know Giacomo... I know.

>> No.9201208

>>9201198
>2017
>Woody is still funny
God bless him.

>> No.9201250

>>9200346
based

>> No.9201255

"go fuck yourself" - ignatius of loyola

>> No.9201259

>>9201195
He's not talking about the perversions though. The text of the letter itself is ridiculous, like a preteen who just started watching porn and gets a boner from the word "cunt." It would have been genuinely scandalous in their time, but it just hasn't aged well.

>> No.9201276

>>9200496
This also applies if you remove the stupid.

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>>9200776
>reading ulysses
>almost every time a particularly beautiful passage came up my mind would jump straight to the love letters
>that whole parallel with "henry flower"
>some of the stuff in circe

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>> No.9201315

>>9200397
>Socrates was human and fools aren't
did i get this right

>> No.9201355

>>9200152
lmao you guys really are losers, i thought it was like ehhh a character we were all playing and making fun of

>> No.9201381

>>9200496
If you kill all the stupid, the average become the new stupid. Then, you have to kill all but the smartest man.

>> No.9201389

>>9201301
what did he mean by this?

>> No.9201399

>>9201355
What are you doing here, then?

>By the time you understand it's too late

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>> No.9201425

>>9201139

You should feel sad because in another century or two people will probably think the same of the time you live in

One person's sincerity might not be timeless but neither is one person

>> No.9201450

>>9200402
good man, great translator too

>> No.9201457

>>9201381
What if you have a standard set? Like a test

>> No.9201473

>>9200144
I was hoping it was going to say "and we still send our kids to school?"

>> No.9201480

>>9200152
what a faggot
yeah man, people are addicted to the itnernet.
You can overcome that or you wont and itll suck, nothing new here

>> No.9201483

>>9201450
(((

>> No.9201486

>>9200402
nice quote

Krishnamurti exposed hope for what it was too, a denial of the present

>> No.9201492

>>9201389
fishing is an activity of solutide and self reflection more than it is an attempt to get a meal

>> No.9201498

>>9201389
Men seek peace of mind and contentment in ways they don't notice. A man fishes not to catch fish but to enjoy the process of fishing.

>> No.9201502

>>9201492
>>9201498
Thank you.

>> No.9201517

>>9201480
But some people don't even realize they are doing themselves a disservice living this way. They think they are happy when they are merely drifting, until one day they realize they aren't satisfied anymore, and they never really were in fact.
He's still a faggot though because he probably thinks it's too late for him, but it's never too late to change.

>> No.9201519

>>9201492
>>9201498
literally me sitting on the toilet but when i forgot to bring the cellphone

>> No.9201523

>>9201517
people will reap what they sow
there's no way anyone ever truly honestly thought to themselves 'my life is going to magically improve even though i spend all day wasting it' so
I don't think its that much of a surprise to them, its more of the fact that they're realising they're now at the point where it doesn't entertain them like it used to and they have to face what they've been doing, what they know they've been doing, and they whine like children about it even though that responsibility was known as an inevitability in the shallow recesses of their minds

>> No.9201530

>>9201523
>my life is going to magically improve even though i spend all day wasting it
I'm sure some people think their life needs no improvement as it is. Inflated egos and general shortsightedness aren't that uncommon. But I guess the vast majority actually know what they are doing and are depressed and merely coping, like you say.

>> No.9201651

>>9201195
>and this is why you're alone, because you have standards and won't date a slut like me

Yes!

>> No.9201654

>>9201195
Go back and reread this post, reflect on what you just said. Meditate on your life.

>> No.9201661

>>9201651
How is perversion with a partner=a slut?

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>>9200135
I can't think of any greater happiness than to be with you all the time, without interruption, endlessly, even though I feel that here in this world there's no undisturbed place for our love, neither in the village nor anywhere else; and I dream of a grave, deep and narrow, where we could clasp each other in our arms as with iron bars, and I would hide my face in you and you would hide your face in me, and nobody would ever see us any more.
>—Franz Kafka, The Castle

>> No.9201679

>>9201661
You shouldn't even need to ask that question. I'm sorry.

>> No.9201682

>>9201679
I'm sorry that you don't have an answer

>> No.9201686

>>9201661
don't be naive

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>>9201661
>How is perversion with a partner=a slut?

You'll find out at some point

>> No.9201693

>>9201661
bad thoughts bad practices, cut it off now before it's too late

t.cuck

>> No.9201708

>>9201679
>>9201686
>>9201689
A whole lot of non answers here, people. I just want to know why you folk think that

>>9201693
Perversion is only bad if it ends in unfaithfulness, in my view. Of course, I'm a sexual deviant, so take that as you will

>> No.9201720

>>9200439
I was once a child and this is bullshit.

>> No.9201733

>>9201105
Civilisation was generally speaking a fucking horrible idea.
>Hey guys do you want to massively shorten your lifespan and live in tiny cramped shitboxes and subsist entirely on plants?
>Of course!

>> No.9201743

>>9201733
>massively shorten your lifespan
Isn't the opposite true?

>> No.9201751

>>9201743
No, but it's interesting that people are always surprised to learn that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy#Variation_over_time
>palaeolithic shitters lived to 54
>our glorious Roman ancestors lived to 47

Things did get better, and then they got worse again. Because industrialism was civilisation 2.0. Although obviously things are way better nowadays than they ever were before.

>> No.9201764

>>9201751
But we live in a civilized society right now, and our life expectancy is far above palaeolithic shitters. Would you not agree?

>> No.9201769

>>9201764
Yes. That would be why that's exactly what I said you tremendous faggot.

Civilisation was generally a horrible idea. The core concepts are harmful as shit. In the very long run it was great, sure.

>> No.9201774

>>9200135
too bat venice is shit in this days

>> No.9201776

>>9200160
only remarkable quote here

>> No.9201778

>>9201769
Oh, quite the temper you have.
The way you presented it just made it seemed that you meant civilization today had shortened lifespans.

You have a good day now, my fine fellow

>> No.9201779

>>9200397
some people say its Hugo who said this. some people say it was someone else. (sbe)

>> No.9201781

>>9201778
faggot.

>> No.9201790

>>9201781
no u

>> No.9201792

>>9201790
Oh, quite the temper you have.

>> No.9201796

>>9201792
Yes

>> No.9201798

>>9201796
Oh, quiet the temper you have.

>> No.9201803

>If I take death into my life, acknowledge it, and face it squarely, I will free myself from the anxiety of death and the pettiness of life - and only then will I be free to become myself.
Martin Heidegger, Being and Time

>> No.9201810

>>9201798
oh, quiet the temperature you have.

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>>9200135

>> No.9201814

>>9200397
it only took me a few years to realize this sentiment is bullshit, and just helps you to stem your envy for people who have it better than you.

>> No.9201820

>‘In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.’
--Aalewis, professional quote maker.
>>9201810
Oh, quit the temporal you have.

>> No.9201825

>>9200701
> A Christ cuck
Yeah, no. This isn't /pol/ with novels.

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>>9200135

>> No.9201829

>>9201811
>>9201826
xd

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>>9200476

>> No.9201833

>>9201820
Oh, quack the turbulence you have

>> No.9201840

>>9201668
Leave Mel alone

>> No.9201842

>>9201833
Oh quince and tuber, ewe and ham.

>> No.9201847

>>9201661
>Hey Anon! Mind if we become polyamorous? I'm also into getting fucked by black guys with you watching. Tee hee!

>> No.9201850

>>9201847
Perversion is the highest good.

>> No.9201873
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>>9200135

>> No.9201877

>>9201842
oh, quail the tagger, elbow and cram

>> No.9201882

>>9201877
Ohm, Quake, The Tiger, El Bow and Crab.

>> No.9201886

>>9200380
Discipline

>> No.9201888

>>9201882
ohhum, quaker the tool, electric coon

>> No.9201891

>>9201888
O hwat quart o' subtle Allah tricked the coont.

>> No.9201893

>>9201769
>The core concepts are harmful as shit.
how can you say that with a straight face? Have the core concepts changed since the romans? Could you even call them core concepts if they changed during the evolution of civilization? Civilization is just relieving us from the jungle, for better and worse.

You're either a troll or a badly articulated moron, your pick.

>> No.9201894

>>9201893
>let's live really close to each other so diseases have no trouble spreading and also let's not move about any more so famines can really get to us
Yeah nah.

>> No.9201897

>>9201894
>what is hygiene

>> No.9201898

>>9201897
Modern.

>> No.9201900

>>9201898
and a result of civilization

>> No.9201901

>>9200135
"oh, quiet the temperature you have"

-anon, 2017

>> No.9201904

>>9201900
Necessary only because of civilisation, and absent for most of its existence.

>> No.9201907

>>9201904
people died from minor injuries after the wounds got infected, a problem largely solved by better hygiene. This was the case before civilization aswell

>> No.9201909

>>9201205
Big guy Giacomo

>> No.9201916

>>9201825
Fuck off.

>> No.9201917

>>9201907
>people died from minor injuries after the wounds got infected
People used to drill holes into their skull with bits of stone.

You're missing the point. Civilisation brought a huge swathe of negatives, hence the lowered life expectancy. It's only very recently that the life expectancy got any better than in the stone age, and it's only very very recently that we developed all this shit (incidentally during one of the worst periods of human existence, the industrial age).

>> No.9201928

>>9201917
you argued that civilization in itself was bad, I disagree, I don't disagree that earlier iterations of civilized societies had its problems, they did, but at its core civilization is NOT a harmful concept, and it is willfully ignorant to think so.

>> No.9201931

>>9201928
>you argued that civilization in itself was bad
Generally bad. For the large majority of its existence it has been bad, and only because of its core concepts. This is historical fact.

>> No.9201935

>>9201931
so have the core concepts changed since the life-expectancy is now higher than ever?

I would argue that we have overcome the problems earlier civilizations have faced through human cooperation, the very core of civilization.

>> No.9201941

>>9201935
Are you trying to tell me that hunter-gatherers and nomads are not cooperative?

Don't mistake human qualities for civilised qualities.

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>>9200152

>> No.9201958

>>9201941
have not human cooperation flourished and developed from the earliest hunter-gatherer societies under what we call civilization?

With civilization mankind has created its own habitat under which it can develop much faster, and much further, than otherwise possible. To say this is bad just because of initial problems, which we are overcoming, is misguided in my opinion.

I realize we might be interpreting "civilization" in two slightly different ways. I'm using it in a rather broad manner as the societal structure enabling wide-spread cooperation at a much larger scale then possible in the wild.

>> No.9201961

>>9201958
>have not human cooperation flourished and developed from the earliest hunter-gatherer societies under what we call civilization?
No.

>With civilization mankind has created its own habitat under which it can develop much faster, and much further, than otherwise possible. To say this is bad just because of initial problems, which we are overcoming, is misguided in my opinion.
Would you disagree with what I actually said, which is that it's generally been a horrible idea?

Obviously it's brought about great benefits right now, but beforehand it was a fucking terrible decision which should not have been undertaken.

Civilisation to me = agriculture and its derivatives. So Uruk and the like, all the way to London.

>> No.9201972

>>9201961
>Would you disagree with what I actually said, which is that it's generally been a horrible idea?
Yes, I'm viewing this from the general perspective of mankind.

I also think that you're glorifying pre-civilization societies; living from hand to mouth is a strenuous affair.

The structures which we work together have become increasingly complex and are yielding more valuable results than earlier, thats what I meant by "human cooperation flourished and developed".

>> No.9201976

>>9201972
>Yes, I'm viewing this from the general perspective of mankind.
From the general perspective of mankind civilisation was unequivocally a bad thing. You're just grasping at what you have now, thinking it somehow discounts what went before.

And that's without even touching spooks.

I think you're glorifying pre-modern civilisation -- living from hand to mouth is a strenuous affair. Hunter-gatherers were better off when it came to food than their agricultural peers.

>thats what I meant by "human cooperation flourished and developed".
So you didn't mean that human cooperation flourished when you said it flourished? Got it.

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>>9200152

If I had a fulfilling life full of friendship and adventure and meaningful relationships I would have never been drawn to 4chan in the first place. The average "normie" spends just as much time browsing facebook, instagram, twitter, or whatever is trendy at the moment. Not to mention text messaging, which isn't exactly the most meaningful kind of human contact, or spending hours upon hours "bingewatching" garbage television shows on netflix. It's not just anons who are addicted to the internet, it's everybody in gen Y, late gen X.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that 4chan is like facebook for lonely spergs.

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>>9201103

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>>9201984
wrong pic

>> No.9201990

>>9201976
>From the general perspective of mankind civilisation was unequivocally a bad thing.
Because of the period where life-expectancy was lower before it rose above previous levels?
>You're just grasping at what you have now, thinking it somehow discounts what went before.
It does not discount it, but it was necessary in order to reach the point we are at today.

Answer me this: are not humans cooperating in a more complex manner than in pre-civilized societes?

>> No.9201998

>>9201990
>Because of the period where life-expectancy was lower before it rose above previous levels?
Yes. Civilisation has existed for ten thousand years and only in the last thousand has it surpassed the stone age. And then it got worse again.

>but it was necessary in order to reach the point we are at today.
Okay. And? It was still a bad idea in every conceivable way. It just happened to get better. You understand what I was originally replying to, right?

>Answer me this: are not humans cooperating in a more complex manner than in pre-civilized societes?
Answer me this: is that the flourishing of cooperation? Or is it just an increased complexity?

In any case individually no, of course not. And in this case that's all that matters, given we are talking about the supposed flourishing of a human quality.

>> No.9202026

>>9201998
>It was still a bad idea in every conceivable way.
Then why did they do it? We're they simply unable to see the consequences or did they infact prefer this new way of living?

>Answer me this: is that the flourishing of cooperation?
Yes, working together in new ingenous ways, and in larger groups, is broadening the human experience. But maybe the word flourishing was poorly choosen, apologies for that misdirection.

>You understand what I was originally replying to, right?
I realise I've lost track of the initial starting point. I can agree that in hindsight it looked like humans initially made a mistake with agriculture, when viewing life-expectancy numbers, but I think the wonders of modern civilization has proven the move correct in the end.

>> No.9202035

>>9201998
You're also neither a troll nor a badly articulated moron, I take that back. And thanks for the (You)s.

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>>9200314

>The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.

>It isn't necessary to imagine the world ending in fire or ice. There are two other possibilities: one is paperwork, and the other is nostalgia.

>> No.9202053

>>9202026
>We're
Where*, embarrassing...

>>9201769
>Civilisation was generally a horrible idea. (...) In the very long run it was great, sure.
I guess we sort of agree. It is not a horrible idea in general, but the initial move away from hunter-gatherer did have some horrible consequences. However I do not think that initial move would have happened had it not also had some positive effect.

>> No.9202057

>>9200135
Venice is a shithole

>> No.9202076

"Ow, fuck!"
~Roald Dahl, last words

>> No.9202089

>>9202057
Surely I prefer to cum in that shithole than in yours.

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>>9202089
Thanks anon, that really activated my almonds.

>> No.9202094

>>9201984
No Urantia Book?

>> No.9202104

"I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops." - Steven Jay Gould

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"work work work work work work werk werk werk werk werk" - Rihanna

>> No.9202162

>>9200473
thats kinda cool??

>> No.9202176

>>9201661
femanon pls go

they hate you, that's it and that's all

>> No.9202186

>>9201661
Wanna be my partner, cutie?

>> No.9202230

>>9201139
I actually think its kinda cool that they weren't all desensitized by porn like we are.

>> No.9202233

>>9200397
Even better to be both knowledgeable and satisfied though.

>> No.9202235

>>9200776
>hear and smell the dirty fat girlish farts going pop pop out of your pretty bare girlish bum and fuck fuck fuck fuck my naughty little hot fuckbird’s cunt for ever.
Lost it

>> No.9202242

>>9201981
The screencap explicitely refers to neetlife with no other social life save from imageboards.

At least normies go outside.

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>>9201987
Meh, but force itself stems from the acceptance of ideas by the majority of men. Ideas rule force, not the other way around.

>> No.9202329

>>9200776
This is just sad

>> No.9202440

I find it funny to think that some of these quotes and a bunch of others is just some shitty sentence mid-paragraph on page 94 of some boring ass revised notebook of some 200 year old white guy, but when you put it between quote marks and add a picture of the guy next to it, it seems to be the effigy of all of his thinking, sometimes even of his time and place.

>please get back with me jeniffer i luv u luv is strong stuff pls dont go with chad come back to me darlin im telling the truth i love u

>"Love is the strongest of all things" ~Anon, second decade of the third millenium

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One of my favorites.

>> No.9202631

>>9202440
Shut the fuck up

>> No.9202635

>>9202451
100% agree, quotes are bullshit

>> No.9202764

>>9201037
underrated

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>>9200160
Hmm

>> No.9203253

>>9200402
Is this guy assuming hope was considered evil just because it was in a box with a bunch of evil stuff?

>> No.9203256

>>9200397
But Socrates is gonna end up in jail for corruption, Mill

>> No.9203263

>>9200380

Transcendence.

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>>9200346
>he's not an idealist

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>>9200776

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>>9200776
>people were sexually repressed before the 60s

>> No.9203325

>>9201668
>have you said everything?
>i've said...NOTHING!

>> No.9203345

>>9200152
He's kind of a fag about it.

>> No.9203348

>>9201686
Girls are all sluts and filthy whores
Even catholic girls would doass to mouth and have someone cum down their throat if they were turned on enough
Most guys just aren't capable of getting them in the mood to unleash themselves

>> No.9203365

>>9200418
shut up

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Nigga only knows what he knows.
-Marlo, the Wire TV-show

pic unrelated

>> No.9203419

>>9200413
Did Heidegger invent smileys? Truly a man before his time

>> No.9203434

>>9200427
That's funny because when I read that I only thought of gunshots. Didn't realize it might be referring to Basketball at all.

>> No.9203441

>>9203365
it's true lol

>> No.9203444

>>9203419
no he definitely didn't

>> No.9203465

>>9203441
keep it to yourself

>> No.9203472

>>9203465
why? butthurt because Anon chose shitty quotes from your favorite philosophers? pretty childish

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>>9201292
>reading circe
>all the femdom humiliation and feminization
>you just know Joyce liked to be girly and forced Nora to be a mistress

>> No.9203506

>>9203472
no, you were being rude

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>>9200397

>JSM

Utilitarians GTFO.

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This one desu.

>> No.9203619

>>9200354
>>9201121
>>9201774
>>9202057
>not knowing what Venice represents in the history of western thought

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>>9203381

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>>9203631
lel. I wish David would come around and write continue for the Wire. Shit's still running

>> No.9203717

>>9200135
>redditard pseuds that need popculture nobodies to think for them : the thread

>> No.9203722

>>9203597
You don't have to be a utilitarian to think that's a good quote.

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"You let in the Jew and the Jew rotted your empire, and you yourselves out-jewed the Jew. Your allies in your victimized holdings are the bunyah, you stand for NOTHING but usury." – Ezra Pound

>> No.9204058

>>9203619
A tragedy of time, as it isn't a point of stasis.

Things change

>> No.9204139

>>9201381
kill all the smart men so everyone becomes stupid??

>> No.9204149

>>9203779
DAM NREALLY ,MAKES YOU THINK P

>> No.9204161

>>9200397
/ic/ the quote

>> No.9204164

>>9200402
and the greeks got btfo by the romans so who cares???

>> No.9204170

“Howard has been buying me som jewelry but he call me 15 or 20 times a day it drives me crazy. I love him but he aggravates me somtimes. I don’t no what to do about Paul hes strange guy. I hate for men to want sex all the time.”

>> No.9204191

>>9201037
holy fuck this is gold

>> No.9204199

>>9201292
I will let you huff my farts yes mountain farts

>> No.9204214

>" Death is not an event in life: we don't live to experience death. If we take eternity to mean not infinte temporal duration but timelessness, then eternal live belongs to those who live in the present. Our life has no end in just the way in which our visual field has no limits.
Ludwig Wittgenstein

>> No.9204266

>>9200397
>>9200400
>>9200400
>>9200401
>>9200451
>>9200467
this quote is from js mill's book utilitarianism. his sentiment here is that humans as rational beings are in a superior position than non-rational beings such as pigs. mill goes on to argue that "if the fool, or the pig, are a different opinion, it is because they only know their own side of the question. The other party to the comparison knows both sides." that particular quote ties into mill's argument in utilitarianism that there are some pleasures higher than others. humans can listen to mozart; analyze paintings; experience profound love and sorrow; all these because we have highly developed rational faculties that allow us to experience these pleasures. whereas a pig or fool cannot. his philosophy is based on achieving the highest possible pleasure for all sentient life, so mill argues in this quote that the dissatisfied human is better off than the content pig because they can experience the aforementioned pleasures, which count for more in his system.

fucking is less pleasurable than playing chopin on piano, in mill's view. since a pig can only fuck and not play chopin on piano, the human is better off. it's not an empty platitude. highly recommend reading the whole of utilitarianism along with on liberty.

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>A fire broke out in a theatre. The clown came out to warn the public; they thought it was a joke and applauded. He repeated it; the acclaim was even greater. I think that's precisely how the world will end: to general applause from wits who believe it's a joke.

>> No.9204287

>>9204214
i unironically figured this out when i was 6 years old.

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>> No.9204313

>>9204149
triggered

>> No.9204509

>>9202635
"Quotes are bullshit" -Anon, 2017

>> No.9204532

>>9204509
I prefer the "100% agree" - Anon, 2017

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>>9200152

>> No.9204622

>>9200152
Holy fuck there's too much spooks going on to count here

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>> No.9204695

>>9204670
fucking horrible, wince everytime I read it

>> No.9204759

>>9203619
my post was sincere, i liked the quote and wasn't memeing

switch to decaf my dude

>> No.9204760

>>9204670
This is why I can't read fiction

>> No.9204768

>>9204670
Despicable. Loathe him.

>> No.9204815

>>9204670
this isn't the cringe thread
>>>9180596

>> No.9205288

>>9200314
Rousseau said the same thing long before, essentially that by imposing laws upon ourselves we are more 'free' than we would be if we lived only to fulfill our immediate desires

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>> No.9205358

>>9204287
same

>> No.9205381

I was writing a piece on mortality and I ended up with this quote that really stuck with me. I know it sounds conceited, but whenever I think about it it makes me feel better.

"Light shows what you are; sound tells you. Together, they helped you create something they will never see or hear."

>> No.9205384

>>9202104
lol yeah fuckin right

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>>9202242

How many people here are actually NEETs though?

I go outside, I go to university, I have a job. None of these experiences have magically made me more social or less weird. I'm pretty good at faking small talk and being polite but I have no idea how to actually connect with people, so I go about my day and come home and read books alone.

>> No.9205414

>>9205381
this is worse than trite, it's meaningless

>> No.9205432

>>9205346
That shows who are the real scientists and who are these wannabes that take science as the greatest thing ever and dismiss without actually understanding either, that take the concept of science to appeal to pseudo-intellectuals that say things like "You know there are billions of galaxy in the universe? Science is so cool!". The expansive knowledge that is available to us has allowed some to grasp only the surface of it for the sake of amusement and call themselves geniuses.

>> No.9205434

We used to listen to politicians and laugh at comedians. Now we laugh at politicians and listen to comedians...

>> No.9205483

>>9203419
Kek

>> No.9205504

>>9205432
take science as the greatest thing ever and dismiss the humanities without actually understanding either,*

>> No.9205542

>>9205397
>>9201981

This tbqh

I have friends, I got a degree, I have a soulless wagecuck job. This meme that you're missing out on 'friendship and adventure' by being a shitposting neet is just that, a meme. A meme that is either perpetuated by people who want you to grease the cogs of society by conforming, or one perpetuated by deluded idealists who, ironically, can only praise 'real life' by claiming it's actually like the escapist fiction they condemn.

But it isn't like that.

Interacting with the 'real world' just reminds me of why I prefer reading books instead 99% of the time.

>> No.9205582

>>9205414
You see no meaning in that? Or more you're not trying to because some anon scrub posted it so it must be meaningless? All these quotes here that simply say philosophy is pointless are profound, yet something that reflects on your existence isn't?
Wew

>> No.9205610

>>9200439
This one is really good

>> No.9205626

>>9202329
Are you kidding? That is literally lust described as accurately as humanity ever has described it

>> No.9205633

>>9205626
I'm not kidding, it's sad period

>> No.9205639

>>9201121
It kind of smells, but I can totally appreciate that quote. There's a sweet quietness in certain parts of Venice, especially early in the evening after most of the tourists have gone back to the mainland, that I haven't experienced anywhere else

>> No.9205646

>>9201163
That is an awkward metaphor, I do not like it

>> No.9205653

>>9201480
>what a faggot
>yeah man, people suffer in the world
>You can overcome suffering or you won't and it'll suck, nothing new here.

Pretty Profound of (you) desu

>> No.9205676

>>9205639
>It kind of smells
It smells because of tourists. The rude and disrespectful normies who visit Venice not to see the art but to take selfies on the gondolas. The fucking energumens from Northern European countries pissing in alleys and throwing the garbage on the ground. That's why it smells. Not because of the canals with stagnant water, which is a natural and characteristic feature of Venice. Fuck the idiots, I would crucify all of them on the via Appia and set fire to their corpses.

>> No.9205678

>>9203381
>Mah Name, is mah NAME

>> No.9205688

GO FUCK YOURSELF - J.D. SALINGER

>> No.9205692

>>9205346
>problematical

Good one Neils

>> No.9205697

>>9200144
We didn't ban shoes we made it that you have to take them off when going through security just like how you can't have guns in schools. Are you retarded?

>> No.9205700

>>9205676
man it must fucking suck to live in a tourist pit, nomatter how beautiful the city itself is. I can only imagine being an actual resident of Florence, which is milling with tourists but not so big that you can avoid them entirely

>> No.9205747

>>9205700
Yeah man. Luckily Florence is saved for now but Venice, due to its smallness, gets raped everyday

>> No.9205829

>>9205688
kek

>> No.9206002

>>9201984
>this present darkness

Troll?

>> No.9206033

>>9202631
>trying to silence the most profound and redpilled thought in the entire thread

hahahahahahaha I guess we need professional quotemakers now eh?

>> No.9206054

>>9205582
i cant offer anyone else here direct feedback on their insipid social commentary.

By all means, explain that anon's (your) quotation if you can.

>> No.9206055

>>9204695
>>9204760
>>9204768
>>9204815
I can't tell if this is a meme or if /lit/ has been flooded with insufferable plebs

>> No.9206059

>>9206055
We've grown up. Nabokov is for teenage girls

>> No.9206068

>>9206059
>teenage girls
>not lolis

Lolita is essential reading for grades 1-5.

"We should all follow in the footsteps of Japan in assigning Lolita to our most youthful, literate citizens for the good of public interests" -Stacey Dooley

>> No.9206093

>>9201669
made me feel

>> No.9206230
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>> No.9206327

>>9206055
Latter.

>> No.9206432

>>9200417
>image
not even true. you can slip into complacency. also radicalism, where you go so far with the "awakening" over time that you debase it.

>> No.9206482

>>9205346
Sagan's not on here cuz that guys too based to find a bad quote from

>> No.9206778

>>9206482
The thing with Sagan is that his thoughts would be on the left column but his fame on the right.

>> No.9206795

>>9204299

really made me think

>> No.9206971

>>9204266
But cows can actually enjoy classical music also there's an elephant that paints
I don't know about pigs and fools though

>> No.9207921

>>9204280

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