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Are the great philosophers of history the most intelligent people to have ever existed?

>> No.9117427

>>9117407
>socrates
>great philosopher
fucking aristophanes rightfully destroyed him in 'clouds', and then socrates was butthurt about that untill he died

>> No.9117439

Scientists used to be philosophers too until very recently, so yes. When you think of a Newton he's a philosopher too.

>> No.9117445

>>9117407
In all ages their are societies which prosper to the degree where some (if not most) of their people no longer have to toil in common labor. This gives room and time for thinkers. Greece just happened to be the first of these civilizations that we have record of.

>> No.9117456

>>9117427
Aristophanes conflated Socrates with both the physiologoi and the sophists, both of which were anathema to his philosophy. Aristophanes had no idea what Socrates was about.

>> No.9117460

>>9117407
Some of them, along with people that excelled in their respective fields. Also, as >>9117439 pointed out, Newton, Galileo and many others considered themselves philosophers. And even now after the split between natural science and philosophy, a lot of philosophers are prominent figures in other fields of social sciences like linguistics or anthropology.

I consider Aristotle to be the most brilliant man to have ever lived, in part because of his contribution to natural sciences.

>> No.9117747

>>9117427
Socrates probably didn't care at all. Plato was butthurt.

>> No.9117775

>>9117407

I dunno could they build a Large Hadron Collider?

>> No.9117782

>>9117427
this

>> No.9117995

>>9117427
you do realize that OP's pic is of Plato right?

>> No.9118870

>>9117995
same guy...

>> No.9118881

It's really easy to be a genius when nothing has been discovered yet.

I mean the Art of War is stuff like "surprise them" and "fire is scary"

They've got virgin soil to plant their ideas in, it's an extremely low bar.

>> No.9118897

>>9118881
Philosphers were all ancient /b/tards

>> No.9119526

>>9118870
yeah dude just ignore all of the other things written by people who are not plato about socrates across three generations. unless, of course, you wanna go full conspiracy theory

>> No.9119534

>>9119526
'twas a joke my dude

>> No.9119536

>plato
>great philosopher
>>9117439
Scientists are terrible philosophers.

Newton was a terrible philosopher.

>> No.9119577

>>9118881

You are brain dead. The scope of human knowledge at that time rendered them far more ignorant of the workings of the world, than that of the average grade schooler in our time. They were working with practically fucking nothing.

Please flush yourself down the toilet.

>> No.9119639

>>9119577
>knowledge exists
top kek

>> No.9119671

>>9119536
Oh master of taste, please enlighten me on who is a great philosopher.

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9119679

>>9119577
And then you guys say "start with the greeks"

>> No.9119680

>>9119671
Me desu wa

>> No.9119708

>>9117460
>>9117439
I don't get why people see Newton as the greatest genius of all time, Leibniz was way smarter than him...

>> No.9119839
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9119839

>>9117407
>Are the great philosophers of history the most intelligent people to have ever existed?
No, because after the 17th century everyone in WEstern Civilization knew of all the great philosophers of history (all their most poignant points poignantly packaged after distilled) so that every succ-sessive generation that follows is then a priori defacto vis a vis 'the most intelligente people to have ever existed', from doctors to lawyers to mechanics, all the greats which followed absorbed anything of value from the past philosophers into the zeigeist and culture (the easly digestable idealogical/aesthetic pills of the society)

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>>9119577
>>9118881

Sad children
Sad sad children

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9119872

Not. Any. More. And they weren't to begin with. But I'd say Nietzsche was one of the greatest geniuses before.

>> No.9120081

>>9119534
o-oh i knew that haha
i t-totally have a sense of humor

>> No.9120180

The most intelligent people in history weren't philosophers.

Empedoclese

>> No.9120192

>>9119839
>a priori defacto vis a vis
nice