Academia is a sham!!!!

[Anonymous No.9113948]

>mfw Wikipedia pages are actually more informative and easily understood than two hour lectures by a fat, middle-aged Jew who flirts with all the female students

[Anonymous No.9113957]

>>9113948
>English major detected

Academia is only a sham for meme-degrees.

[Anonymous No.9113963]

>>9113957
The same goes for science!!!

Why would I go to uni when I could buy a cheap second hand book or use khan academy for free !!!

[Anonymous No.9113969]

>>9113948
I'd be embarrassed to make this post.

Shitty instructors at your community college are not "academia". Academia is the vetting of works by fact checkers and peers throughout multiple decades. Even now, you have the garbage leftists being toasted by stuff like real peer review, and post-structuralism is under attack by a resurgent right. And this, as >>9113957 says, is a problem in the humanities. being a sham in STEM causes massive controversies.

2. Wikipedia is the most editorialized source of information I have ever seen. At least use fucking JSTOR and put some effort in.

[Anonymous No.9113976]

Currently studying my MSc. It has dawned on me. I payed thousands of pounds to listen to some people reading from ppt slides. The course is based on "independent study".

[Anonymous No.9113981]

>>9113948
Right. Now try IT, engineering or theoretical physics. Anything that isn't parroting, really.

[Anonymous No.9113999]

>>9113981
Or just forget college, take out a business loan, and take open courses in your down time.

[Anonymous No.9114010]

>>9113976
You got duped. Embrace autodidactism.

[Anonymous No.9114013]

>>9113963
>!!!
>!!!

[Anonymous No.9114016]

>>9113976
this
my teachers are S H I T

[Anonymous No.9114023]

>>9113963

I know that you're being sarcastic, but it's true enough. All the STEM materials you need are available online, from places like MIT.

[Anonymous No.9114025]

Academia is a monopoly on the means of education!

Down with academia. Join me, friends!

[Anonymous No.9114028]

>>9114025

Your sarcasm does not invalidate the truth of the sentiment.

[Anonymous No.9114033]

>>9114028
I'm the OP. I'm being entirely serious.

Literally what is the point in universities if all the books exist freely online and professors can be paid through patreon donations based on their quality?

[Anonymous No.9114034]

>>9113963
>khan academy
>uni
???

[Anonymous No.9114035]

>>9114033
certification.

universities are no longer a place to go to expand your mind. If you are going for some artsy fartsy purpose and are paying a dime, you got scammed

[Anonymous No.9114037]

>>9114028
your ass does not nipple the fuckle of this pingle :^)

[Anonymous No.9114039]

>>9114033

I think that that is what will eventually happen. It's already true that attending university has almost no value added over just being an autodidact (if you have the discipline and ability to structure your life, of course).

[Anonymous No.9114041]

>>9113963
Really unless you're going to a small liberal arts college where you can actually have discussions with your profs, there's no meaningful difference between Uni and just reading a bunch of books. It's just an information transfer. You might as well pay thousands for someone to force you to read a bunch of books.

The only worthwhile one is where you can discuss things with your profs, and get quality feedback. Otherwise, just go to a fucking library, and watch free lectures online. There's no difference

Well, except that going to Uni is a good signal to employers, but Im just talking about education here, not employment prospects.

[Anonymous No.9114042]

>>9114035
Why can't you get online certificates which are just as rigourous?

[Anonymous No.9114069]

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[Anonymous No.9114101]

>>9113999
Oh yeah.. Studying isn't 'free' everywhere.

[Anonymous No.9114154]

>>9113981
Lol

Nigga, what?

Engineers do not learn shit in class, all you have to do is use the book and work on a bunch of problems yourself.

[Anonymous No.9114169]

The important aspect about academia is that you learn to do methodological research, are able to critically analyse other people's work and your own and build/critique for the advancement of your field.

Reading wikipedia articles might expand your knowledge regarding topics on the field but it won't develop aforementioned skills or contribute to it as a whole.

t. 3d year social scientist

[Anonymous No.9114191]

>>9114169

>social """science"""

[Anonymous No.9114221]

>>9114191
My field is not that bad
I p-promise.

[Anonymous No.9114226]

ITT: Anon vents after he got a C and mom got mad at him.

[Anonymous No.9114711]

>>9114101
http://www.openculture.com/freeonlinecourses

piracy works too

[Anonymous No.9114720]

>>9114041
Am I wrong, anons?

[Anonymous No.9114749]

People who claim you can't learn anything from school either went to a shit school or didn't try. Throughout my entire education, I met privately with any of my professors that I needed to. There's a thing called office hours that they're required to keep. You probably don't go to them because you'd rather shitpost.

[Anonymous No.9114761]

>>9114749
Reaffirm this. Dropouts itt

[Anonymous No.9114792]

Skkool hss its purpose. ideally to teach you to teach Uself. Have u Never done something wrong before and had it pointed out as result of schooling or actually used the resources available to you at college? If you go and parrot and don't make use of your time or resources, guess what, you're wasting your time.

[Anonymous No.9114800]

>>9114792

[Anonymous No.9114803]

>>9114749
more than that, people who stop learning at any time are this >>9114761

[Anonymous No.9114821]

>>9114041
No you aren't wrong and with the ever inflating rate of college tuition it could in the near future not be worth the investment to go to uni at all and just become a well read service industry pleb who works their way up in management by working hard and proving their competent that way. Some examples are specialty foods, department store management, etc. Anything that requires a little extra intelligence can get you full time plus benefits and no college debt to pay off.

[Anonymous No.9114822]

>>9114720
Yes, because the important part of uni is not lectures, it is assignments.

Assignments are training exercises. They also involve mandatory feedback with people who are more highly trained than you. Assignments build skills, they don't just test them.

Now, you could organise all this yourself. But people don't. Because unis do it for them. That's their business.

[Anonymous No.9115072]

>>9114720
I think that's pretty well recognized. You're paying to get your foot in the door.

[Anonymous No.9115085]

>>9113948
Some day this may be true, but not today.

[Anonymous No.9115100]

>>9115072
I already said I'm just talking about getting a good education, not a job. But either way, if you're already paying for it, why not get an education while you're at it?

[Anonymous No.9115114]

>>9113963
>>9114023
t. people who apparently own the millions of dollars of equipment required to learn lab techniques

[Anonymous No.9115142]

wikipedia contains a lot of "information", but large portions of it are not accurate

[Anonymous No.9115158]

>>9115142
Yeah and the point of uni is not just to disseminate information, but to teach how to critically evaluate, manage, and communicate information.

[Anonymous No.9115277]

>>9115158
Complete bullshit when considering the amount of liberal propaganda and I say that as a fucking liberal.

[Anonymous No.9115286]

>>9115142
[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.9115293]

>>9115277
Pro-tip: don't get a coffee-serving degree unless going into academia. And I say that full of respect and admiration for humanities.

[Anonymous No.9115312]

>>9115277
That's a completely unrelated point. Also see >>9114822

[Anonymous No.9115331]

>>9115277
But that's exactly the issue. People who are just passively accepting whatever their told at uni are missing the point of being there. If they are not able to enter into the discourse then they are not suited for uni in the first place.

[Anonymous No.9115379]

>>9115331
Im not totally sure what you're trying to say. Do you mean that the problem is that people view the professors expressing their opinions as "liberal propaganda," rather than just another viewpoint which they can critically analyze? That the assumption is that people should just adopt the opinions of their profs, which is what makes it "propaganda" in the minds of people incapable of independent thinking?

[Anonymous No.9115458]

>>9115379
Yeah that's right, thanks anon. I remember taking a philosophy elective in which the professor provided his own take on Nietzsche, for example. The point was to stimulate a Socratic dialogue, and students sitting there writing down his lines were totally missing the discussion and the point of being there.

I spoke to them throughout the unit, and they also were less able to form and deliver their argument in written assignments. University is a large dialogue, and you are being trained to enter into dialogue rather than just listen to someone else speaking.

[Anonymous No.9115525]

>>9115458
Well said. This is why I think smaller LACs are pretty decent for education (see >>9114041), because you can actually debate/question the professor in class pretty easily, while that might be difficult in a larger lecture where you're really just supposed to listen.

That's my hope anyway. I'm starting at one next year, so we'll see if it lives up to my hopes.

[Anonymous No.9115575]

bump.

[Anonymous No.9115597]

>>9113948
It is likely that self-learned people will always be intelligent compared with people who were mostly taught to regurgitate whatever their teacher wanted to here.

[Anonymous No.9115614]

>>9115597
>wanted to here
>here
>tfw to smart for college

[Anonymous No.9115673]

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[Anonymous No.9115757]

>>9115575
>>9115673
fucking bumperino