/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.9086996]

What is the best translation for pic related

[Anonymous No.9087051]

>>9086996
Pls respond :(

[Anonymous No.9087205]

Hollander.

[Anonymous No.9087214]

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[Anonymous No.9087225]

>>9086996
I liked Allen Mandelbaum's translation. It's the only one I have read but it's supposed to be very good.

[Anonymous No.9087238]

>>9086996

Just learn Italian, it's easy if you took Latin in high scholl

[Anonymous No.9087240]

There are a lot of english translations of The Divina Comedy and as I know the most appreciated is the one by John Ciardi. Dante is hard to fully understand for italian native speakers as well but the musicality of the words is immediate, and Ciardi's translation tries to convey the same.

[Anonymous No.9087251]

>>9086996

[Anonymous No.9087257]

>>9086996
Also make sure you've read the bible and aeneid

[Anonymous No.9087689]

>>9087251
Thank you

[Anonymous No.9087701]

The one you'll read.

[Anonymous No.9087784]

how do i learn Italian? Rosetta Stone?

[Anonymous No.9087805]

>>9087214
This, just fucking learn Italian. Translations are for middlebrows.

[Anonymous No.9087839]

do people actually learn italian and manage to read the comedy? i'm italian and can't understand shit without notes. maybe i'm just a pleb

[Anonymous No.9087849]

>>9086996
Just learn Italian, tbqh

[Anonymous No.9087853]

>>9087839
It's kind of like reading Chaucer or Shakespeare in English. A non-pleb should be able to understand it with a bit of practice.

[Anonymous No.9088627]

>>9087805
>tfw you will never read the Tao Te Ching

[Anonymous No.9088705]

>>9087805
>bothering to learn any language except latin and classical greek

[Anonymous No.9088970]

>>9087839
Italian here as well and I thought the same. They could read notes as well I guess but still you must be proficient in Italian. I wonder if someone actually did it.

[Anonymous No.9088989]

>>9087839
>>9088970
Whats your opinion on Decameron, italokeks?

[Anonymous No.9088997]

>>9088627
Yes, even if you read a translation you'll never understand it. Plus, the Tao Te Ching is so poetic that English translations tend to be new-age paraphrases. Better to not read it at all or learn about it second-hand.
>>9088705
The languages worth knowing are thus:
>English
>French
>Latin
>Greek
>Italian
>German
The rest is optional. Norwegian, Spanish, Russian, and Occitan are optional.

[Anonymous No.9089009]

>>9088997
>French

[Anonymous No.9089028]

>>9086996
Italian here. Don't even bother with translations, if you're really interested learn the language, in this case it's truly worth it.
It's like translating Shakespear, 99% of the craft just disappears if you do so.

[Anonymous No.9089311]

>>9089028
yeah, do what this guy did and just learn Italian because you want to read this book

[Anonymous No.9089740]

>>9088989
Taking a great class on it this semester. I prefer it to Canterbury Tales, overall a great read

[Anonymous No.9089784]

>>9089028
Ho imparato abbastanza per riuscire a vedere televisione. Potrò leggere la comedia con questo?

[Yuji Sakai No.9089826]

vulgate

[Anonymous No.9090618]

>>9089784
Probably not, but there is always a paraphrase in modern italian and we have to read it to understand Dante's words as well. I'd suggest you to keep an english translation anyway while reading it in italian, you could really manage it with perseverance. It's worthy.

[Anonymous No.9090651]

>>9088989
I didn't like it much when studied it in school and I haven't given it a second chance yet honestly. It's nothing comparable to Dante, but the language is much more immediate and so are the novellas. It's interesting for the satire and for the erotic content that made it an "immoral" book. Pier Paolo Pasolini's film (The Decameron, 1971) is focused on this as well, you might find it useful.