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What do you live for?

>> No.9017863
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9017863

>>9017853

Living is evil

>> No.9017865

>>9017853
I want to punch the mother of whoever made this chart

>> No.9017869

the æsthetic

>> No.9017870

>>9017853
Anime

>> No.9017878

>>9017853
>immediately defaults to holding people at gunpoint for nihilism

Rude

>> No.9017879

>>9017853
For art.

Everything is secondary to aesthetic concerns. Happiness is nothing compared to greatness.

>> No.9017902

>>9017853

time is a flat burger

>> No.9017914
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>> No.9017923

“He who has a why to live for can bear almost any how.” —Friedrich Nietzsche

I used to have it man and I was unstoppable. Strong even in my depression. Now I lost it and I'm just wallowing.

>> No.9017925

ideas, aesthetics, meaningful relationships

>> No.9017981
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>>9017879
>Power above happiness
That's my boy.

>> No.9018026

>>9017878
>he's a nihilist
>he doesn't hold someone at gunpoint at least once a day
Fucking pseud.

>> No.9018302

>>9017853
Nothing, everything

>> No.9018479

>>9017863
That's not the point of the film, not even a character's belief. you trippin

>> No.9018526

>>9017865
Listen bub, anything short enough to be read in a moment doesn't warrant a summary, and to anything which is longer a summary is an injustice.

In my mind even though they are unfortunatley ambigous descriptions, the modality in which they are presented does not give the ability to make them clearer.

>> No.9018550

>>9018526
Then don't do it at all, what the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.9018582

Getting plugged with as many thick cocks as possible, my dude.

>> No.9018585

Memes, obviously.

>> No.9018596

>be self-sufficient
>Cynicism
Fucking what? Cynics were all about mooching off of others.

>When asked what type of wine he preferred, Diogenes replied "other people's".

>> No.9018604

Almost all of this is wrong, hilariously enough.

>> No.9018609

>>9017870
これです

>> No.9018611

Why do Redditors love these fucking infographics so much?

>> No.9018616

I live to assume my responsibilities given to me by the universe to influence and inspire prosperity and fullness in my own race, and to do as little harm to the earth as I can muster. As long as life lasts on this little dot, true divinity is the goodness of living things and we can't fail the strange moment of time we have been given.

>> No.9018624

>>9018611
They don't have the attention span to read anything with more than 100 words so they can just look at the pictures and tell themselves they learned something.

>> No.9018636

>>9018611
They don't have the willpower to actually research things so they gain a shallow knowledge of a wide array of topics so they can feel like "renaissance men".

In other words, pseudointellectualism.

>> No.9018693

It lacks of Taoism.

>> No.9018917

>>9018693
fuck off chang

>> No.9018926

>>9017879
>>9017981
I never understood this part of his philosophy. Isn't the point of art to bring positive emotions (happiness) and he hates utilitarianism so why suffer in order to produce art which will be enjoyed by others?

>> No.9018933

It's just my basic instinct to continue living.

>> No.9019149

>>9017863
>Melancholia
>leaves the viewer in a state of ecstasy
What did they mean by this?

>> No.9019169

>>9018926
>Isn't the point of art to bring positive emotions (happiness)
No.

>> No.9019276

>>9018550
I'm saying that you shouldn't complain about a summary stripping meaning SINCE THE POINT IS TO STRIP IT DOWN TO THE VERY CORE OF ITS MEANING IN AS CONSICE AND ACCURATE A WAY AS POSSIBLE GIVEN THE IMPOSED RESTRICTIONS

>> No.9019340

>>9018926
There is no "point" in art

>> No.9019446
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>>9019276
WHY IMPOSE THE GIVEN RESTRICTIONS IF IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND A CONCISE AND ACCURATE MEANING WITHIN THEM?

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>>9017878

>> No.9019474

>>9019446
brevity

>> No.9019509

>>9017853
Kantianism desu

>> No.9019524

>>9018926
No, art is a phenomenon, it does not have a purpose, similar to an earthquake.

>> No.9019525

>>9017853

inertia

>> No.9019538

What's the school of thought that endorses playing video games and shitposting on 4chan all day?

>> No.9019539

>>9019538
Hedonism

>> No.9019546

Some combination of humanism, existentialism and stoicism. The first two are for the 'why', the third is for the 'how'. Most other philosophies are for cowards.

>> No.9019578

>>9019546
>humanism
A.k.a. "cuck logic"

>> No.9019743

>>9017923
What was it?

>> No.9019749

>>9017853
>It's another reductionist philosophy chart thread

All of you should kill yourselves

>> No.9019750

having sex with women
I used to think everything i did was for myself. but then I realized i feel the greatest when a female starts touching me and she allows me to touch her and then im licking her and shes making soft noises that sends tingles all my over my body.

I need women in my life or i'll go crazy

>> No.9019758

>>9017853
>no Taoism section
>Taoism generally overlooked by most of western civilization
>and we wonder why our suicide rates are 10,000x higher than cultures that study Taoism much more

>> No.9019762

>>9019743
Happiness, really. Just the idea that one day I'd have things figured out and wouldn't be such a mess. Now it seems either impossible or too far away to really be worth pursuing.

>> No.9019798

>>9019762
This Nietzsche quote made me ready to die happy, soothed all my existential dread in one fell swoop:
"If we affirm one moment, we thus affirm not only ourselves but all existence . . . and if our soul has trembled with happiness and sounded like a harp string just once, all eternity was needed to produce this one event - and in this single moment of affirmation all eternity was called good, redeemed, justified, and affirmed."

James Joyce was a huge Nietzsche fan as well and Ulysses is laced with his philosophy, which is something insanely overlooked by the literature community.

>> No.9019809

>>9017863

>> No.9019811

>>9019798
>tfw 2 depressed to feel anything from that

>> No.9019812

>>9019798
I really like that, thanks!

>> No.9019829
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9019829

>>9017853
I LIVE FOR MEMES, OP!!!

>> No.9019844

>>9017853
Don't live for anything. I'm alive due to Instinct and fear of death.

>> No.9019861

>>9019149

He was on PCP during filming

>> No.9019928

>>9019829
>you and your horse's nigger
>this is my ice cream

>> No.9019942
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9019942

>>9017853
Stoicism and platonism

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>>9017853
>This live is insame/meaningless
>Decided i agree that suicide just negates the problem
>I'm the be all and end off of life/truth
I assume this is Egoism?

>> No.9020009

>>9017853
>epicureanism=hedonism
this will never cease to trigger me

>> No.9020031

>>9019743
For me it was music but it just doesnt feel the same anymore

>> No.9020635

L O V E

>> No.9020783

>>9019928
It says "fuck your mom nigger this is my ice cream"

>> No.9020935

>>9020783
Maybe it did before google translate turned it into "you and horse's nigger, this is my ice cream."

>> No.9020961

>>9020009
Epicureanism is a hedonism, just not a Cyrenaic/libertine version.

>> No.9020999
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9020999

I don't have any compelling reason to keep living. Equally I have no reason to seek death. So I carry on. Life's alright.

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>>9019524
>phenomena
>not empty
wew lad

this is why nietzsche was doomed the moment he decided to take schopenhauer as a foil and disregard hegelianism completely

>> No.9021010

>>9019539
does hedonism have any intellectual grounding

>> No.9021079 [DELETED] 

r9k and tumblr depending on your gender

>> No.9021081

>>9021010
r9k or tumblr depending on your gender

>> No.9021083
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>>9019798
>want to "affirm life"
>make a philosophy based around one great orgasm which gives people carte blanche to say when they're done with it or make them feel like giving up on it when they think they will never see it/have seen it
you scared little fuckers can't simply do something can you? you always have to have some sort of justification or assurance that you're correct in some way or other. and if society won't give you what you want then you'll scorn the very thing that made you and say you have your "own" way (like it didn't tell you that all your life too) and relate to whatever dead figure pleases you. who are you trying to convince? who are you trying to manipulate? who are you trying to trick? why can't you be quiet, if you're so alone?

>> No.9021664

>>9019474
is the soul of wit <3

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9021697

You gotta ride the tiger.

>> No.9021720

>>9021010
I would think it has all the intellectual grounding. That doesn't mean are philosophers into it, but is it a rational way of seeing life.
When you really delve into it, though, in practice it leads to nothing but misery. Like it does to 4channers that read (about) Stirner at a young age and don't realise they're gonna get rejected from waifus and fail for many reasons to get any benefit out of a hedonistic lifestyle.
To some others, as Kierkegaard puts it, it leads to a life where the only constant is boredom.

>> No.9021735

>>9018933
/thread

>> No.9021751

>>9017853
why does everyone get stoicism wrong?

>> No.9021789

>>9021720
Epicureanism is rational hedonism, and epicurean texts provide a solid intellectual grounding, which you are clearly unfamiliar with. Everything you do you do for pleasure.

>> No.9021800

>>9021751
This pic is just pants on head retarded

>> No.9021816

>>9018526
>the modality in which they are presented
please fuck off and never post on the internet again

>> No.9021831

>>9017853
the hope that things will improve.

>> No.9021832

>>9017853
Everything up to kantiansm (included) is painfully wrong

>> No.9021838

>>9017853
Classical liberalism is a political ideology, why is it presented as a way of life?

>> No.9021842

>>9021789
Neither hedonism nor Epicureanism are psychological theses, you dip