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/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General Anonymous Sat Jan 21 22:39:35 2017 No.9006477 [Reply] [Original]

This is what we are reduced to edition

Fantasy
Selected:
>https://i.imgur.com/r688cPe.jpg
General:
>https://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg
Flowchart:
>https://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg

Science Fiction
Selected:
>https://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg
>https://i.imgur.com/IBs9KE8.jpg
General:
>https://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg
>https://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg

NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
>https://i.imgur.com/IJxTQBL.jpg

Previous Thread: >>8995398
Writing Critique: >>8997190

Anonymous Sat Jan 21 22:44:00 2017 No.9006494

Can anyone here tell me if Sleeping Giants eventually becomes a full mecha anime? I don't want to read about fucking voltron

>>9006410
the character is a scientist at heart who has seen geometries and geographies which defy rational explanation and wants to apply Foglio's law to them (any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science)

An entity decided to invest in her quest by giving her a set of glasses with a pair of knobs at the end. turning them allows her to rotate and displace her vision in any dimension (including time and hyperspace). She believes there's a rational explanation for how it works but given that she has no way to take it apart without breaking it she uses it in her research

Later she finds out that it doesn't work with other people, which she brushes off as some kind of biometric device.

Evnetually she loses the glasses, much to her dismay. However, when she goes to turn the knob subconsciously it works anyway, revealing that the glasses were just a magic feather. it was always her power to begin with.

Unfortunately, this kind of implies that it's magic and/or something she can't explain

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 21 22:49:44 2017 No.9006512 >>9006494 why do the glasses have to be a magic feather? can't they just be "strange glasses" and her power is producing the effect through the lens of the glasses? maybe they're just an amplifier of her power

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 21 22:50:04 2017 No.9006513 Last time i was here you guys had some good web fiction recommendations. Finished Worm and luminosity. Throw me another bone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 21 22:51:40 2017 No.9006518 >>9006512 Sounds like this is more wishful thinking on your part than what the author was probably trying to convey

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 21 22:54:32 2017 No.9006524 What books do guys recommend for somebody who wants fantasy heavy with lore and world building?

Anonymous Sat Jan 21 23:02:40 2017 No.9006545

>>9006512
the issue is that the power exists and unless I make her go into a diatribe about the trial-and-error nature of science it's going to just going to give the impression that I'm saying she's foolish for trying to give everything a scientific explanation

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 21 23:09:38 2017 No.9006560 >>9006524 Malazan Book of the Fallen series. It's really, really big.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 21 23:15:33 2017 No.9006576 What are your favorite hidden gems? Or if not gems, lesser known stuff that deserves more appreciation?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 21 23:24:14 2017 No.9006596 >>9006576 Anything by Steven Gould, at least in my experience.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 00:31:44 2017 No.9006773 >>9006545 She is foolish, she's a female

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 00:33:20 2017 No.9006777 >>9006773 >Female character written by a male author You should kill yourself.

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 00:48:30 2017 No.9006810

>>9006777
I don't understand this post. I'm not the author.

If you're implying that she's not foolish because a man is writing her then you've written what is essentially a man with boobs. A true to life female character would be an absolutely inconsistent mess in all aspects of life, regardless of her academic education.

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 00:53:33 2017 No.9006821

>>9006576
Something More Than Night by Ian Tregillis.

Yes, it's a dresden clone, but it does an amazing job of depicting the kind of sensory background an elder god would experience, and in doing so created the cleanest blend of science fiction and fantasy I ever though possible.

Call me a pleb, but if you give me a good description of an an angel hearing the soothing hiss of the cosmic microwave background or the tasting the sour fizzle of virtual protons popping in and out of existence in the quantum foam, then you can be assured I will always give your work the benefit of the doubt

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 00:57:18 2017 No.9006830 File: 80 KB, 1176x662, 14069367937839634956934593.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >there will never be a portal fantasy novel as comfy as The Longest Journey

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 00:57:51 2017 No.9006833 >>9006810 my, you have such an educated opinion of the fairer sex

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:00:49 2017 No.9006841 >>9006833 I know you're upset but that actually is the educated opinion on the fairer sex Unless she's over 45, then a case can be made for her level headedness

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:01:16 2017 No.9006842 >>9006833 I'll have you know /r9k/ has taught me everything there is to know of women.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:01:37 2017 No.9006843 >>9006810 And /sffg/ complains that they can't be authors.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:02:43 2017 No.9006844 >>9006841 >Unless she's over 45, then a case can be made for her level headedness Nah, mate you ever talked to an old broad?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:02:45 2017 No.9006845 >>9006842 I'll have you know that /b/ taught me what it means to be human.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:05:29 2017 No.9006852 >>9006844 Yes that's why I meant to imply you have a CHANCE to make the case, it's not a certainty but I'd believe a rational 45 year old woman. In the context of science fiction at least.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:07:49 2017 No.9006861 I'm trying to read Malazan. BUT NOTHING HAPPENS, WHY IS IT SO BORING? PEOPLE DO THINGS BUT NOTHING HAPPENS!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:09:24 2017 No.9006867 >>9006861 Keep reading until you get to the Felisin parts. They're amazing.

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:10:40 2017 No.9006873

if you're all going to be retarded menchildren (is that the proper pluralization) who whine about being friendzoned on 9gag, then for the sake of storytelling let's just pretend this story takes place in an AU where women evolved to be the smart ones

>>9006830
is portal fantasy the same thing as rabbit hole fantasy?

i.e. a person (usually a young girl but not always) travels through some kind of symbolic hole (tunnel, well, doorway, tornado) and ends up in a fantasy world

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:13:46 2017 No.9006882 >>9006873 Just do what every other author does, write a good male character and give him a vagina. How did this not occur to you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:13:58 2017 No.9006883 >>9006852 You can write 100,000 words about paint drying or the slow progression of drool dripping from one retard's chin without shitting up an entire general dedicated to the discussion of published fiction.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:15:12 2017 No.9006885 >>9006883 And yet you can't seem to leave this general un-shitted

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:15:47 2017 No.9006888 >>9006882 But people seem to like Asuka better than Rei so I don't think you're right anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:16:46 2017 No.9006889 >>9006882 If an author is retarded all their characters will be retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:17:58 2017 No.9006894 >>9006888 Why have any female characters in a book when they can all be males?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:17:58 2017 No.9006895 >>9006888 But Rei is a doll not a human She's also a shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:20:48 2017 No.9006899 >>9006889 I was going to say this as well but didn't feel like going into it because it would just make author anon angrier. A dumb, boring author will only write dumb, boring characters. Quote it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:21:27 2017 No.9006901 Shouldn't this be Fantasy General? Science Fiction is a sub-genre of Fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:22:11 2017 No.9006905 >>9006901 It basically is fantasy general, sci-fi guys are just tagging along.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:26:25 2017 No.9006912 Are there ANY fantasy books where people talk like people? Dialogue always sounds so forced and artificial.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:29:24 2017 No.9006921 >>9006912 Do you have an example of forced dialogue?

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:32:35 2017 No.9006927

>>9006921
In reality people don't talk in full sentences you know they talk in elongated overdrawn segments of speech which tend to blur into each other and don't really form grammatical sentences as is seen in literary works because that's just not how people talk

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:34:09 2017 No.9006929 >>9006927 Lol everyone I know speaks in sentences. I asked for examples, can you give some or no?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 01:59:08 2017 No.9006976 File: 72 KB, 1024x563, fallen_by_spiralhorizon-d7qa1ug.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Will he die? He did nothing wrong, after all.

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 02:14:29 2017 No.9007005
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I would really like some recommendations for fantasy or science fiction with heavy themes of monasticism (technopriest is totally acceptable) and/or theology. I like well-written angelic/eschatological fantasy fiction as well as Name of the Rose type stuff (I know that doesn't fit the genre) and Anathem-style (though I didn't like the writing of that one).

Any ideas, anons? I'll suck yo dick.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 02:18:13 2017 No.9007013 File: 48 KB, 307x499, 51skxtO0WzL._SX305_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can I read this as a standalone, or is it good to know what's happened in Timelike Infinity first?

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 02:45:12 2017 No.9007047

I've been trying to get an ebook copy of The Black Shriving and The Siege of Abythos by Phil Tucker for a while now. I normally just use #bookz, but for some reason the search ook function isn't working for me on there. Libgen doesn't seem to have it. Anyone have another place other than amazon to get it from?

Actually, I'm really just looking for alternatives to bookz and libgen for stuff that may not be on either one of them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 02:54:16 2017 No.9007055 >>9007047 http://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=1293&t=1648451 http://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=1293&t=1798536

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 03:06:53 2017 No.9007090 >>9007055 Thanks man, really appreciate it.

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 03:11:25 2017 No.9007100
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For anyone who liked windup girl, pic related is a quick read (only 200 pages) that might satisfy the itch that, that "hot pocket" left.

There is no gri that I see and there is no biopunk, but anyone wanting to read about Japan and their women replacement can read this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 03:48:58 2017 No.9007161 What's a nice fantasy with a little girl character and great dialogue?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 03:49:38 2017 No.9007163 >>9007161 kys

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 04:11:50 2017 No.9007195 >>9006927 Get out of here Bendis, just because you were thrown out of /co/ it doesn't mean you can come and shit up this board.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 07:22:12 2017 No.9007636 >>9006576 Cold Allies, Patricia Anthony. Aliens are trying to make first contact through an ex-NEET tank drone pilot fighting the Arab invasion of Europe.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 07:24:10 2017 No.9007641 >>9007005 Wolfe my dude.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 07:26:37 2017 No.9007648 >>9007161 Equal Rites Tiffany Aching series

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 07:35:50 2017 No.9007677 Has annyone ever read the elven by bernhard hennen?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 07:39:48 2017 No.9007693 >>9007005 A Canticle for Leibowitz is post-apocalyptic monks doing monk-stuff as society goes through the motions of returning to the way it was before it was destroyed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 07:48:56 2017 No.9007706 >>9006861 I never had this problem. Maybe your book is defective?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 08:14:35 2017 No.9007754 File: 119 KB, 552x768, queens of the stone age.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9006524 >>9006576

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 08:53:30 2017 No.9007855 [DELETED]

>"You are my bright penny by the roadside. You are worth more than salt or the moon on a long night of walking. You are sweet wine in my mouth, a song in my throat, and laughter in my heart."

>"You are a luxury I cannot afford. Despite this, I insist you come with me today. I will buy you dinner and spend hours waxing rhapsodic over the vast landscape of wonder that is you."

>"I will play you music. I will sing you songs. For the rest of the afternoon, the rest of the world cannot touch us."

JUUUUSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTT!!!

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 08:55:08 2017 No.9007862
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>"You are my bright penny by the roadside. You are worth more than salt or the moon on a long night of walking. You are sweet wine in my mouth, a song in my throat, and laughter in my heart."

>"You are a luxury I cannot afford. Despite this, I insist you come with me today. I will buy you dinner and spend hours waxing rhapsodic over the vast landscape of wonder that is you."

>"I will play you music. I will sing you songs. For the rest of the afternoon, the rest of the world cannot touch us."

JUUUUSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTT!!!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 08:57:44 2017 No.9007870 >>9007862 Is Bakker the only /sffg/ author who doesn't kiss women's asses 24/7?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 09:04:26 2017 No.9007887 >>9007870 No. Actually Rothfuss is the only one I've really noticed in that respect, most of the rest just don't make a big issue of it

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 09:07:58 2017 No.9007904

>Grow up reading sci-fi and fantasy
>Want to write
>Market literally swamped with shit sci-fi and fantasy

I guess I'll just write erotica and read good sci-fi and fantasy.

Why is it that it seems like there are just millions of shit sci-fi and fantasy books for every good one?

Also recommending an AWESOME series that gets no respect: Saga of Pliocene Exile

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 09:48:11 2017 No.9008009 >>9007904 How about you just get good and beat the crowd?

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 09:53:32 2017 No.9008030

>>9007648
Thanks, any other recommendations with a cool girl protag?

>>9007904
>Why is it that it seems like there are just millions of shit sci-fi and fantasy books for every good one?
Why is it that there are just millions of shit pro soccer players for every good one?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 10:01:50 2017 No.9008059 File: 359 KB, 2000x947, 16129201.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] rate my fantasy-related bookshelf. what should I add to it? planning on getting The Way of Kings soon, see how I get along with that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 10:03:57 2017 No.9008068 >>9008030 Monstrous Regiment, it has cross-dressing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 10:10:26 2017 No.9008084 File: 1.80 MB, 4128x2322, 20170122_150948.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9008059 you should add these

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 10:19:51 2017 No.9008107

>>9006524
contrary to popular belief, I found The Kingkiller Chronicle to have an interesting lore and magic system.
as for heavy lore, nothing surpasses Wheel of Time, not in my books. I had to go back and rummage through wiki pages because I kept forgetting who all the side characters and artifacts were. bonus point: it goes on for 14 books until the Sanderson cavalry comes to the rescue

>>9006576
Katharine Kerr's Dagerspell and Darkspell.
they are very basic books, simple plot, characters and descriptions sound like they were written almost before Tolkien's time, yet there's a certain cozy feel to them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 10:25:52 2017 No.9008122 File: 568 KB, 665x877, Untitled-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] really makes you think...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 10:40:52 2017 No.9008150 File: 1.15 MB, 1000x720, Author Burglar.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9006494 >>9006545 >>9006810

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 10:47:46 2017 No.9008165 >>9008059 5/10

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 11:06:31 2017 No.9008217 >>9007013 Standalone is fine.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 11:53:31 2017 No.9008389 >>9008122 >Wheel of time But that isn't Sanderson.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 12:39:28 2017 No.9008527 >>9007636 >/pol/ the novelization Sounds cool

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 12:54:17 2017 No.9008573
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Can you please help me? I am currently reading THE FARSEER TRILOGY by Robin Hobb and I dislike it quite a lot, the main character is basically a woman, I can't relate to him in any way.

I'm just reading distractedly, and this is basically not going well. I'm not having fun.

Could you suggest a different fantasy? Darker, more violent, with more action and less bitching about?

I recently read all 5 ice and fire books, it was enjoyable but not the best of the best.

Magic, even heavy use of magic is not a problem.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 12:59:40 2017 No.9008594 >>9008573 Prince of nothing most of the action is cucking though >>9007870 >doesn't kiss women's asses >is a proud feminist

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 13:01:11 2017 No.9008600 >>9008573 Land fit for heroes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 13:02:31 2017 No.9008606 File: 13 KB, 317x75, Harry Potter and the Cursed Child.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9008122 really makes you think...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 13:26:50 2017 No.9008720 >You realize Duncan Idaho is the main character of the Dune books all along How long did it take you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 13:32:45 2017 No.9008742 >>9008720 when his clone was introduced

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 14:13:22 2017 No.9008928 File: 76 KB, 250x250, 1464732141999.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9006895 Rei is the patrician choice, kill youself

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 14:23:37 2017 No.9008978
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Hi /sffg/

I'm looking for something to read:

Sci-fi with a bit of mystery, like a shuttle crash on a mysterious alien planet or something. Romance/lewd is fine. A little bit space-empire/fascism is cool too.

suggestions?

I offer this lewd pic in gratitude

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 14:27:59 2017 No.9009000 Has anyone got that /pol/ manifest pic? Pls post, I need it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 14:30:49 2017 No.9009016 >>9008978 https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28962996-six-wakes

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 14:30:54 2017 No.9009018 File: 69 KB, 720x960, azzip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9008978 Blue board...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 14:33:20 2017 No.9009032 >>9009016 Also https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30199444-the-warren

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 14:42:08 2017 No.9009078 >>9008928 No u Asuka ftw

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 14:49:56 2017 No.9009109 >>9008978 I'm also looking for a scifi story, any good scifi audiobooks?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 15:01:41 2017 No.9009167 >>9009109 The Alastair Reynolds Audio Book Collection it's on thepiratebay you can start with the short stories

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 15:24:23 2017 No.9009289 >>9009109 Hyperion audiobook pretty good. So long as it's the one with different actors for the various pilgrims.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 15:36:24 2017 No.9009336 >>9009289 thanks m8 downloading now

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 15:40:53 2017 No.9009357 >>9008059 10/10 for Moomins

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 16:06:40 2017 No.9009454

>>9008978
Jack McDevitt mainly does scifi with a exploration/mystery theme. The Alex Benedict series for example is about a antiques dealer and space ship pilot who get mixed up in strange disappearances, lost colonies, conspiracies, etc after they come into possession of some kind of artifact.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 16:53:17 2017 No.9009707 >>9008978 I'm absolutely certain I've read a few books by Philip K Dick like this. Another book, Sirens of Titan, comes to mind. A little mystery there. Robert Heinlein has a few that match your description as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 16:54:45 2017 No.9009712 >>9008084 haven't read Gardens of the Moon yet, just got it in the mail last week, but if it's any good, I'll definitely bulk up my Erikson stash. >>9008165 5/10 as in it's halfway there?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 17:10:26 2017 No.9009781 Recommend me some grimdark that isn't on the charts

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 17:12:56 2017 No.9009796 File: 11 KB, 183x275, images.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9009781

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 17:43:53 2017 No.9009987 >>9009796 Is this the answer to age long dark souls question?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 17:45:11 2017 No.9009992 >>9009987 Not really. Close to Black Company.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 17:46:44 2017 No.9010000 >>9009987 >age long dark souls question What

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 17:57:08 2017 No.9010048 >>9009781 Don't think Steel Remains is on the chart.

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 18:22:16 2017 No.9010161

>>9010048
>He heaved up and stared down the length of his body, the tangled breeches and boots still not off, the dark form hunched and coiled over his legs and hips head-down like a feeding beast, and somewhere seemingly distant beyond vision, the delirious timed motions of mouth up and down, of the probing finger twisting in and out. The scent of the dwenda's body, that maddening mingle of spices and somewhere, the faintest hinted odor of shit in the air from his opened anus.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 18:47:40 2017 No.9010260 >>9008059 Are you just getting started?

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 18:58:35 2017 No.9010299

What does /sffg/ think of this kind of time travel?

>path integral time travel
>directly observed events cannot be changed but the circumstances and paths that lead into and out of those events are in a state of flux
>those who delve into the past are unable to change things that have certainly happened, but can easily change things that have not
>Those who observe the future must know when to stop looking in order to manipulate ingoing and outgoing variables to their advantage

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 19:04:56 2017 No.9010321 >>9010299 I like alterable events/5d multiverse personally, but that type's probably good for certain kinds of story. Can you do paradoxes with it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 19:09:31 2017 No.9010346 >>9010299 Ever watched Doctor Who?

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 19:16:26 2017 No.9010365

>>9010321
depends on the paradox

bootstrap paradoxes work as intended, but unless one person follows them all the way through it's impossible to conclusively prove the paradox even exists

grandfather paradoxes are possible under certain circumstances. Lets say you have two scientists who are both equally capable of making a time machine both working on the project. If a time traveler knows of one scientist but not the other, they can kill the grandfather of the one they don't know and everything works out becuase no events they observed need to change

>>9010346
yes

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 19:20:40 2017 No.9010382 >>9010346 Not since Tennant came along and turned it into tumblr central, but some of the old books are god tier.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 19:48:23 2017 No.9010468 >>9008978 >Sci-fi with a bit of mystery rendezvous with rama is a good mystery. A giant ship turns up in the Solar system and A Human crew goes to check it out. Pretty fun read

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 19:49:55 2017 No.9010470 File: 1.08 MB, 1300x867, Pol in SFFG.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9009000 Say no more friend.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 19:52:38 2017 No.9010485 File: 1.34 MB, 2544x1900, Sffg memes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9010000 Before your time youngin. We went through a lot of memes from the start of this general.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 19:56:08 2017 No.9010501 >>9009000 >>9010000 Dark souls question was answered ages ago. also nice gets

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 19:59:40 2017 No.9010511 >>9010501 The Dark Souls can literally never be answered, people really really want to believe the games were influenced from esoteric literature of the highest culture.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 20:17:57 2017 No.9010583 >>9010511 But they were. That literature was fairy tales though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 20:23:56 2017 No.9010607 >>9009109 How do you feel about Space Opera-ish stuff?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 20:28:45 2017 No.9010622 >>9006894 Sup Gay Perry?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 20:32:45 2017 No.9010640 >>9006821 FORBIDDEN! I love that author. Have you read his Alchemy Wars series? The cover art is cringe but the story is actually fairly nuanced.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 20:38:38 2017 No.9010657 >>9006576 The Alchemy Wars by Ian Tregillis The Dutch take over Europe with clockwork slaves who have mouths but cannot scream. Think the "Runaway Robot" but Steampunk with a dash of Lovecraft.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 20:41:23 2017 No.9010666 >>9007161 lolita

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 20:45:54 2017 No.9010675

Why do Sanderson's books read like the script of some jap anime? Every single book is like some edgy seinen anime.
>edgy man/girl
>oh edge
>something bad happened to me, it was my fault
>I was so stupid
>the edge
>the pain
>OH MY GOD
>I have overcome it
>I am now a living god
>BUT WAIT
>I was wrong again
>but people helped me
>now I am a mega-god overman
>BASED

Anonymous Sun Jan 22 20:49:00 2017 No.9010686

I'm almost done reading Robin Hobb, does anyone know other fantasy authors that a Hobb fan would like? I especially enjoy her her original characters, their relationships, and sentimental moments between them. Google has lost my trust because it directs me to people who think Rothfuss is the best fantasy author.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 21:03:43 2017 No.9010742 File: 14 KB, 320x306, checkum 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9010666 >those fuckin trips >based answer

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 21:06:29 2017 No.9010756 >>9010640 I actually liked the cover art okay. The books were good but the ending was just awful. Too many unasnswered questions

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 21:15:55 2017 No.9010784 File: 119 KB, 800x790, 1483828778032.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9010485 pls put aurang in there he a good boy

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 21:27:24 2017 No.9010819 >>9010784 >ywn get dp'd by aurax and aurang

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 21:55:02 2017 No.9010930 Are there any books with a sentient disease?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 21:56:32 2017 No.9010937 Is it just me or just few fantasy writers worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 22:01:59 2017 No.9010962 >>9010930 Quintara Marathon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 22:02:23 2017 No.9010963 File: 662 KB, 857x465, Sturgeon's Law.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9010937 Nope, not just you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 22:06:50 2017 No.9010974 >>9010963 I fell like fantasy has it worse than Sci Fi.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 22:07:38 2017 No.9010977 >>9010937 >>9010963 90% of fantasy is crap 7% is mediocre 2% is okay 0.9% is good 0.1% is great

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 22:08:53 2017 No.9010981 >>9010974 >fell I need to go to sleep.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 22:10:14 2017 No.9010986 >>9010977 citation

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 22:15:45 2017 No.9011004 >>9010986 my diary desu~

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 22:23:39 2017 No.9011055 >>9008720 I've only read the first book, so Duncan Idaho is assumed dead by me lol.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 22:26:18 2017 No.9011061 >>9010977 >0.1% is great Name some. No meme answers like LotR.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 22:28:38 2017 No.9011070 >>9011061 LotR

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 22:29:03 2017 No.9011071 >>9011061 The Hobbit

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 22:30:44 2017 No.9011078 >>9011061 LotR, the hobbit, the silmarillion. titus groan trilogy malazan

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 22:31:03 2017 No.9011081 >>9011061 A Voyage to Arcturus

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 22:31:19 2017 No.9011084 >>9011061 Strange and Norrell

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 22:32:31 2017 No.9011089 >>9011061 Dune If you disagree you are a faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 22:33:27 2017 No.9011093 >>9011061 silmarillion

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 22:34:29 2017 No.9011096 >>9011061 Harry Potter and The Skullfuck Prince

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 22:35:37 2017 No.9011100 >>9011061 My Diary Desu

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 22:35:46 2017 No.9011102 >>9011061 Book of the meme Sun

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 23:02:21 2017 No.9011167 What are the really really good audiobook VAs to look out for? Never tried an audiobook, mostly looking for fantasy but fine with almost anything there.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 23:04:47 2017 No.9011170 >>9011167 >there will never be an audiobook version of American Psycho voiced by Christian Bale why live

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 22 23:44:51 2017 No.9011252 >>9011167 Simon Vance, Ralph Lister, Peter Kenny, Michael Page, Tim Gerard Reynolds, and Michael Kramer are all good.

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Anonymous Mon Jan 23 00:05:46 2017 No.9011305
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>>9010784
>you will never study the secrets of the Tekne with Aurax, your beloved mentor
>you will never see the beaming pride on his face as you create your first bashrag variant
>you will never share a romantic kiss in the glow of candle-light reflected off the polished golden surface of soggomant
>you will never experience every nerve in your body tingling as he ejaculates inside of you

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 00:05:51 2017 No.9011306 >>9011252 >not listing who made Dresden Files so great

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 00:14:17 2017 No.9011325 >>9011306 >Dresden Files >Great

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 00:16:59 2017 No.9011333 >>9011252 Decent list. Stefan Rudnicki who narrated Acts of Caine did a great job imo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 00:17:59 2017 No.9011336 >>9011325 I think the point is the narrator somewhat elevates the material.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 00:18:07 2017 No.9011338 Is His Dark Materials worth reading or is it just anti-religious propaganda?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 00:18:51 2017 No.9011340 >>9011338 I'd trust your instincts on this one. Surely better options regardless.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 00:26:03 2017 No.9011351 >>9011338 yes

Anonymous Mon Jan 23 00:34:47 2017 No.9011365

I'm going to need something to read after I'm done with Sleeping Giants and I expect I can knock out the rest of His Dark Materials in a week or change. What's a good site for recommendations?

>>9011338
I read the first one last week, can't speak for the others but the first one worth reading. The propoganda is pretty damn strong but it's well enough executed that it doesn't seem like fedoralord drivle.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 00:36:33 2017 No.9011372 >>9011338 Golden Compass is fantastic, Subtle Knife is pretty good (doesn't hold together as well but has neater individual elements), Amber Spyglass is unadulterated garbage.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 00:36:33 2017 No.9011373 Why are powerful neutral factions such a big thing in fantasy(and occasionally sci-fi)?

Anonymous Mon Jan 23 01:03:32 2017 No.9011432

>>9006477
Anyone here read A Fire Upon the Deep?
I got only as far as the super smart dogs which was interesting but didn't really grab me. Does it include more interesting elements/races/ more space fights later on, or should I give up on it if I'm not totally grabbed so far?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 01:07:55 2017 No.9011442 >>9011432 Totally, the entire B plot is aliens trashtalking each other on Usenet and having kneejerk turfwars over the Human Question. Stick with it, it's worth it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 01:10:30 2017 No.9011450 >>9011373 art imitating life?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 01:18:48 2017 No.9011467 >>9011442 Sounds neat, I'll go back to it after Endymion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 01:36:42 2017 No.9011502 >>9011432 It has talking plants on tank treads that turn out to be thralls of an ancient evil. It's a must read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 01:38:36 2017 No.9011505 >>9011089 But not any of the other books.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 01:41:24 2017 No.9011512 >>9011061 Redwall, eat shit C. S. Lewis

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 01:42:57 2017 No.9011516 >>9010930 A Fire Upon the Deep kinda, The Expanse has a sentient molecule that reprograms organic matter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 01:44:11 2017 No.9011521 >>9010756 Rushed as shit for sure, I was hoping for a bad end sort of deal. Well, badder.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 01:46:13 2017 No.9011524 >>9011373 Examples?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 01:51:00 2017 No.9011535 >>9010756 Still, the finale with Mab building a corpse wall was pretty great.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 01:54:14 2017 No.9011541 >>9006477 What of William Gibson's is worth reading? I've already read Neuromancer, Count Zero, and Mona Lisa Overdrive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 01:55:59 2017 No.9011545 Has any one read Gary Gibson's Marauder? Thoughts? Are any of his other works worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 02:24:12 2017 No.9011601 >>9011541 I think all of it is really good. The bridge trilogy, the short story collection, and Peripheral are more different degrees of Cyberpunk. But I liked the Blue Ant stuff too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 02:34:47 2017 No.9011619 >>9011061 Sturgeon's own stories Jack Vance RA Lafferty Gene "The Mean Meme" Wolfe Avram Davidson Ballard's short stories

Anonymous Mon Jan 23 03:52:44 2017 No.9011721

Most of this thread is science fiction, I realize, but can you guys throw me some recommendations for books with knights in them?

I liked GRRM's Dunk and Egg side books, and The Once and Future King, but it's been a chore finding somewhere else to go. Magic is OK

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 03:55:55 2017 No.9011727 >>9011721 The Red Knight

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 04:28:46 2017 No.9011771 >>9011721 bump

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 04:56:41 2017 No.9011803 >>9011771 bumping 4 u

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 05:58:36 2017 No.9011909 >>9011467 nooooo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 06:34:48 2017 No.9011947 Cheers to the people who have been shilling The Grace of Kings here. It was a good read and quite unique.

Anonymous Mon Jan 23 07:03:14 2017 No.9011975
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>>9010260
yeah, these are all the books I bought last year and in January

>>9010675
The biggest problem with Sanderson is that he writes 'safe', not in the Mormon way, but in the sense that his prose is too technical. His books are like watching a professional porn video: yeah you whack it to it, but you're constantly mildly aware of the fact that the girl is fake-moaning and that there's a stunt cock in the background.

It's the same with Sanderson. Mistborn was very well written, great concept behind it, the plot was skillfully constructed and the way everything wrapped up at the end made sure that there are no loose ends. But in a way, that's what makes it boring, the fact that there was no heart in it, the characters were dull (other than Kelsier, I didn't really care about anyone), their interactions are stiff and clumsy and yeah, the battle scenes are anime-tier.
Magic system was interesting though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 08:31:19 2017 No.9012111 I just finished The Book of the New Sun. Can someone explain me what the meaning of "the first Severian" was?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 10:30:02 2017 No.9012341 >>9012111 Did you also read Urth of the New Sun?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 10:58:53 2017 No.9012421 I found some Simon R. Green, Janny Wurts and one of the Shannara books in a charity shop the other day, any of these worth investing time in or should I just pass them on?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 11:03:44 2017 No.9012435 >>9011061 >>9010977 Not >>9011061 but does any of the 0.1% contain a little girl protag?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 11:23:11 2017 No.9012463 >>9012435 kys

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 11:24:09 2017 No.9012466 File: 491 KB, 1600x1137, Not Approved.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9011727 Delet dis Please stop trying to make poor innocents fall for your meme and get hurt like I did.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 11:31:23 2017 No.9012486 >>9012466 It has knights in it which is all that guy was after. If he had asked for "gay, rape and incest" then I wouldn't have recommended it.

Anonymous Mon Jan 23 11:33:40 2017 No.9012492

>>9012421
Pass the Simon R Green books on. He is a shit author. When I was younger (a 20 year old neet) I read up to book 12 of his shotgun suzie novels and book 3 of his 7th dimension collared whore series.
The books started off nice but you started off nice but pretty soon you could see that he was rinse repeating everything.

Pissed me off, if you like works that constantly remind the reader that this person is bad-ass or if you are underage then go for it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 11:38:39 2017 No.9012503 >>9012486 Shitty knights at that. Who heard about knights that don't rape or molest the tavern's wench? They are also indecisive and faithless, can't even decide if they want to worship God or Rah (the sun).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 11:44:21 2017 No.9012514 >>9012492 Cheers mate, I thought I'd check here first before wasting a few hours and being disappointed. The books I found of his were the Deathstalker series but I imagine it'll just be more of the same from what you've said.

Anonymous Mon Jan 23 11:46:18 2017 No.9012521

Just finished The Great Ordeal.

What the fuck is with the Whale Mothers. That shit makes no sense. While the idea is interesting and gives new meaning to the inhumanity of the Dunayain it makes no sense biologically.

How come Kelhus's daughters are like them?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 11:48:22 2017 No.9012526 >>9012521 Were you born retarded or do you not understand how to put spoiler tags into your posts?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 11:49:33 2017 No.9012529 >>9012421 Depends. My procedure is thus: $1<= book I really want <=$5 $0.25<= books looks awesome =<$1 book is SFF <=$0.25 Shannara is okay, if bland, Tolkien clone. Wurts wrote some good stuff with Feist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 11:52:59 2017 No.9012545 >>9012341 Not yet but I ordered it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 12:45:25 2017 No.9012730 File: 1.66 MB, 2059x3000, P006.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9012435 I'm also interested

Anonymous Mon Jan 23 12:53:56 2017 No.9012756

>>9011975
Those poses are terrible.

I get you about the lack of heart. I noticed it and I've heard the same complaint from other people. The only character I really felt for was Sazed and not even that much. He does get better, though. Dalinar in Stormlight has tons of heart, Kaladin's got a neat story arc, and Shallan... gets a little better. He's going to blow all his goodwill on Lift, though.

The interactions continue to be stiff and clumsy. Still good stories though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 13:36:54 2017 No.9012914 I'm looking for a fantasy book with a good female protagonist. Not any "muh womyn power," just a well written story that just has a female at the center. Preferably epic fantasy or sword and sorcery.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 13:38:26 2017 No.9012918 >>9012914 Chronicles of Chaos series by C. Wright

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 13:41:49 2017 No.9012927 >>9012914 Sabriel

Anonymous Mon Jan 23 13:51:54 2017 No.9012953
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>it will never be 1970 again
>you will never be 16 again
>you will never fuck 11 year olds that want to pretend that they are adults
Why live?
also why is it that any old "classic" always has some degenerate shit going on?

Anonymous Mon Jan 23 13:57:18 2017 No.9012968

>>9011975
It's not just his prose; everything in Sanderson's works is glaringly artificial. Characters respond in a telegraphed way, all the events conveniently happen to deliver the right message and telegraphed development and so on. His is probably the most "fake" fiction I've ever read.

Anonymous Mon Jan 23 14:20:12 2017 No.9013043

>>9012914
Golem and the Jinni is a good one as always. I won't recommend the grace of kings because it's very "womyn power" in that respect.

Something More Than Night is an interesting one. It does address gender roles the way you might expect from a classic hardboiled detective meeting a modern woman but it actually handles it in an interesting way when you remember that the male lead isn't human and his entire grasp of what humanity is comes from books that are a good century out of date

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 14:22:01 2017 No.9013047 >>9013043 >I won't recommend the grace of kings because it's very "womyn power" in that respect Sheeeeeeit I just downloaded Grace of Kings. How prevalent is it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 14:26:19 2017 No.9013063 >>9013043 >Something More Than Night Don't worry shill, I'm biting your bait soon. We will see how shit or good this book is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 14:31:08 2017 No.9013081 >>9012953 I too my brother droge want to give the old in out in out to some scallywag. England is the best place ever. All those fetal alcohol syndrome, butter face teenage slags pretending they are adults and giving up the juice at the drop of a hat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 14:37:14 2017 No.9013100 >>9012521 Selective breeding senpai

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 14:38:09 2017 No.9013103 >>9013063 >tfw you shill books all the time but have yet to attract a dedicated autist who reliably spergs out at the mention of one It's a bad feel.

Anonymous Mon Jan 23 14:39:37 2017 No.9013110

>>9013047
Not the person you responded to .

It's overall shit.
The woman wants him to get a new wife, and gets vexed when he gets one although they are both cucking each other

There is the "if I had a penis I could have risen far in the military" meme. The women isn't what make this book it.

It's the NOT!Olympian Chinese gods fucking with each other through their chosen mortal. If you are into that sort of a thing read it by all means.

The only reason that shill shills it is because it has his precious "low tech war age" and he loves his low tech wars.

Anonymous Mon Jan 23 14:45:20 2017 No.9013138

>>9013103
I'm the autist that sperges out when dhalgren, red knight, buried giant, last unicorn and a few others are mentioned in a good light.

If this something more than meme is shit you will have the joy to see me rage over it. If it's good like others I read I will help you shill.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 14:49:44 2017 No.9013155 >>9013110 That doesn't sound too bad DESU. I like it when gods dick each other over by proxy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 14:52:48 2017 No.9013169 >>9013155 I went in expecting shit and when it wasn't delivered it pissed me off. It's an alright book if you are into that shit but I'm not reading anything else by the author, nor his sequels.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 14:56:30 2017 No.9013188 >>9013138 Sorry, I'm not that anon. I shill other books. Will have to work harder in the future.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 15:00:05 2017 No.9013213 >>9012914 City of Stairs City of Blades tolerable both cases

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 15:24:52 2017 No.9013295 >>9012756 Sazed was a bawfest. The last time I came across a character more unbearable was when I had to crawl through Geralt chapters while reading The Witcher.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 15:25:40 2017 No.9013299 >>9012730 Nice taste in LO covers, but learn how to crop.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 15:26:47 2017 No.9013302 I finally finished Reaper's Gale. Why did Trull and Toc both have to die? I mean Toc was bound to die eventually after surviving dying 3 times, but Trull didn't deserve it, shanked by some nobody faggot piece of shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 15:27:45 2017 No.9013305 File: 2.81 MB, 2053x3000, P007.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9013299 It's from the official album, I thought I couldn't post the high res version (but apparently I can lol)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 15:30:14 2017 No.9013318 >>9013213 Really liked City of Stairs, couldn't fucking stand City of Blades. Felt like two different authors.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 15:36:12 2017 No.9013337 >>9012521 >What the fuck is with the Whale Mothers. They probably just did medical shit like break their pelvises and constantly feed them drugs to bloat them up or whatever.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 15:42:06 2017 No.9013361 Never read Discworld before. Small Gods looks the most interesting to me, is that a good start?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 15:54:20 2017 No.9013407 >>9013361 Probably not. There's some meme chart, maybe someone will post it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 17:26:41 2017 No.9013708 File: 206 KB, 800x860, IMG_7491.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9013361 >>9013407

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 17:34:03 2017 No.9013745 >>9013110 This thread has truly gone to shit when it got infested with autists spamming cuck memes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 17:37:20 2017 No.9013761 >>9013745 Is it still a meme when the characters are literally cucking each other?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 17:53:33 2017 No.9013823 >>9013745 They are literally cuckolding each other. It's not the ironic meme cucking, it's literally cucking each other. Also this whole big war started because of a misunderstanding. Book is shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 18:07:37 2017 No.9013859 File: 660 KB, 1440x2584, wild ride.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9013361 >>9013708 newer version Small gods is a good place to start, as it is a good book. It isn't related to Pyramids.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 18:35:06 2017 No.9013947 >>9008059 did you read the blood of elves or the name of the wind yet? still debating if i should read those

Anonymous Mon Jan 23 18:37:42 2017 No.9013953

>>9012953
what are some books like clockwork orange or dhalgren where there is a lot of degeneracy, and they have sex with girls preferably the girl acting older than she actually is, and experiences what it means to be a real adult female and the girls says "it hurts take it out"?

I have a new fetish now

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 18:37:57 2017 No.9013956 >>9012914 graceling maybe. read it a while ago and i remember it being kind of ok. it is one of those strong womyn books but i thought it was interesting. would also like to know what other people thought of graceling.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 19:10:06 2017 No.9014071 >>9006477 Reading childhoods end right now, part 1 is great part 2 so far is mediocre.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 19:32:34 2017 No.9014134 >>9014071 >willingly sacrificing your children to an intergalactic horror that constantly requires fresh souls

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 21:57:11 2017 No.9014644 >>9013302 Because Errastas is a cunt

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 22:08:28 2017 No.9014693 >>9013138 You're correct about the first two of those, wrong about the second pair. Weird.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 22:11:00 2017 No.9014702 File: 39 KB, 308x475, 2963442.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What are considered the best Turtledoves? I remember liking this one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 22:41:07 2017 No.9014801 Can someone recommend good Military Science Fiction with a very fleshed out world?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 22:46:41 2017 No.9014825 >>9014693 Hello philosophag, how's the human condition coming along?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 23 22:47:49 2017 No.9014831 >>9014801 Neal Asher BV Larson Enjoy, shill when done.

Anonymous Mon Jan 23 22:53:37 2017 No.9014851

>>9014801
Scalzi's "Old Man's War" series has some good worldbuilding IIRC.

Linda Nagata's "The Red" got recommended on here a while back, I read the first book and IMO and it does a very good job of painting a crummy Future America sliding into dystopia.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 00:15:26 2017 No.9015097 >>9014801 If you look past the weird pacing issues, David Weber's Multiverse and Honorverse deep world's are built rather quickly and effectively

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 01:14:32 2017 No.9015199 >>9015097 Yeah Honorverse is good up until book 6 or 7 or so. After that I would suggest only reading until the war with Haven ends and then pretending the series is over.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 01:53:54 2017 No.9015294 I've read the Principia Discordia and the Book of Eris. I'm partway through the Illuminatus! Trilogy, and then I'll read Prometheus Rising. Any other essential Discordian reading?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 01:56:15 2017 No.9015302 Anyone have any fantasy recs for books with a good bromance? Particularly interested in series. An amazing bromance can take a story to the next level. no homo

Anonymous Tue Jan 24 02:00:09 2017 No.9015308

>>9015302
>no homo
Is it okay if one of the dudes is gay (well, probably bi) and the two dudes do kiss once in the context of a drunk three-way with a hot woman, the event is only alluded to rather than explicitly described, and their friendship is entirely platonic before and after that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 02:06:57 2017 No.9015317 File: 734 KB, 800x1280, Fagget.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9015308 Faggets

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 02:10:50 2017 No.9015324 >>9015308 Sure. I'm not bothered by The Gays just as long as it's a bromance and not a romance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 02:12:13 2017 No.9015327 >>9015302 Malazan Book of the Fallen. There's so many great broships. Fiddler and Hedge, Tehol and Bugg, Trull and Onrack, Kalam and Quick Ben, Toc and Tool, and so on. A lot of them end tragically though.

Anonymous Tue Jan 24 02:13:29 2017 No.9015328

>>9015324
I was going to suggest The Magicians, but while a true friendship develops, it's kind of understated.

Actually, have you ever read Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser? It's about two bros who meet when they're trying to steal the same object and decide to team up, then they go on all kinds of wild adventures, everything from stealing a house on stilts to facing eldritch horrors.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 02:14:39 2017 No.9015332 >>9015327 How could you forget Icarium and Mappo? Taralack Veed a shit

Anonymous Tue Jan 24 02:14:59 2017 No.9015334

>>9008573
Mazalan, book of the Fallen.

The characters are over all very well written, the world is fucking huge. You have very different things going on at the same time, happening all over the world. Plenty of magic but not in an anime/annoying way. Very dark and very violent. Highly recc

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 02:15:54 2017 No.9015337 >>9014831 Which Neal Asher, shill-kun? Gridlinked or The Skinner?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 02:16:02 2017 No.9015338 >>9008720 >Not Leto II Fuck off

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 02:18:35 2017 No.9015343 >>9015337 Not him but if it were me I'd start with Ian Cormac series.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 02:19:29 2017 No.9015344 >>9015302 unironically Red Rising

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 02:19:48 2017 No.9015346 >>9013302 Hood wanted Toc for having evaded him for so long. Trull. yeah. That was bs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 02:20:52 2017 No.9015351 >>9015327 Tehol and Bugg are amazing desu.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 02:21:32 2017 No.9015352 >>9015343 Any particular reason why? Reading the blurb for The Skinner reminds me of Jack Vance, specifically The Blue World and Showboat World

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 02:24:11 2017 No.9015357 >>9015346 I mean how the fuck does he stand up to Icarium and Silchas Ruin and then go out like that? It's just criminal.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 02:25:44 2017 No.9015360 >>9015352 I think chronologically Ian Cormac is set before plus he wrote it first anyway. Either way it's maybe not massively important so if you wanna read Spatterjay by all means just do it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 02:33:31 2017 No.9015373 >>9014801 Warship (Black Fleet Trilogy) by Joshua Dalzelle

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 02:55:41 2017 No.9015417 >>9015337 Agent Cormac series is the most military versions. Start with shadow of the scorpion and move on from there .

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 02:57:55 2017 No.9015420 File: 183 KB, 1024x768, Leoman of the Spurdo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Malazan is taking book of the meme sun's place as most shilled book. Is 2017 going to be Malazan's year?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 03:01:10 2017 No.9015425 >>9009796 Are you recommending this as a standalone or would I have to read the first 2 books in the series?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 03:02:58 2017 No.9015429 >>9015425 nah I fucked up and posted the 3rd book instead of the 1st.

Anonymous Tue Jan 24 03:17:48 2017 No.9015449

>tfw you obsess over a story daily but are terrified to write it because every time you add or change anything it just gets worse and worse and worse and the task just gets bigger and bigger.

I don't think I'm able to do it anymore /sffg/. I'm too scared and too ashamed

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 03:48:30 2017 No.9015524 >>9015449 >tfw I wrote my first book almost in one go, minimal editing such as grammar and I loved it >tfw I'm still editing, adding and removing shit from my second book and the more I do it, the more I hate it What's up with that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 03:49:19 2017 No.9015527 >>9013110 >>9013043 The most hilarious thing about this is if you look at the goodreads reviews for The Grace of Kings it's full of feminists whinging about a lack of female characters.

Anonymous Tue Jan 24 03:50:59 2017 No.9015532

>>9006927
Lol you retard do you want a book with conversations that goes like this:

>so uh yeah he came this way but when he saw john...
>wait john from the hospital?
>you know him?
>yeah what a cuck I saw Jim walking with his girlfriend the other day
>Stacey is a bitch though
>damn she's hot though
>yeah jena would get jealous when she was around
>shit she was crazy dude
>yeah I fucked that bitch a week ago
>holy shit man
>oh yeah she was all screaming and shit fuck neighbors had to call in on us
>damn bro
>john was hitting on her at Christmas but she gave him the blue balls said she didn't fuck with germs and all that
>haha serves him right for that hospital job
>shit that guy is so dirty mike wouldn't come near us he'd pretend we don't exist

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 03:56:56 2017 No.9015543 >>9015532 >he thinks people talk like this go outside more m8

Anonymous Tue Jan 24 03:59:08 2017 No.9015546

>>9015527
I think Liu took that to heart. Most of The Wall of Storms was from female perspectives and he killed off all the male PoV characters

That said its not bad. If anything it's better. The one thing that fell at the wayside though was worldbuilding.

How can you narrow down an entire society to "we're savages, but we have deer-dragons and lactose"

>>9015524
I'll never be able to write a novel. At this rate, I'm not even sure I can do short stories anymore.

granted, this is a novelette now, but so much of it has got to go and it's not even close to done. God, just thinking about it makes me want to fucking kill myself. I think I need to refocus my therapy sessions over this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 04:00:21 2017 No.9015547 >>9015527 >hilarious not really

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 05:00:07 2017 No.9015616 File: 15 KB, 286x308, 1444003340511.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9015532

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 05:22:37 2017 No.9015640 >>9015302 Lies of Locke Lamora - two main characters, friends through difficulties in three books. I liked the books.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 06:34:07 2017 No.9015780 File: 123 KB, 640x640, Autism Chart.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9015616 >implying

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 11:46:05 2017 No.9016494 >>9014831 >>9014851 >>9015097 >>9015199 >>9015373 >wake up >lots of recommendations thank you all.

Anonymous Tue Jan 24 11:55:36 2017 No.9016521

Historical fantasy that isn't about dumb bitches isekai'ing to bone a swarthy scot?

I want magic AND historical settings.

>>9010930

Second or third ender's game, I forget which. The one with the pequeninos and lusitania.

>>9011338

I've only read the first two, but they're pretty good for YA.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 12:11:11 2017 No.9016571 File: 29 KB, 297x495, Simply_Human.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw wizard claims to be last black man in the world >cover has a white wizard on it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 12:24:03 2017 No.9016618 >>9016571 Anyone got recommendations for sci fi from 2016?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 12:53:34 2017 No.9016725 >>9016618 Sorry, I don't tend to read new stuff.

Anonymous Tue Jan 24 12:55:52 2017 No.9016738
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>>9016571
>Honor Harrington is described being eurasian
>but on the covers she's just white

>>9016618
Ninefox Gambit was really good.

Mechanical Failure by Joe Zieja was a pretty good comedy that really reminded me of Kieth Laumer's Retief stuff.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 13:01:46 2017 No.9016759 File: 88 KB, 510x680, Simply_Human.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9016571 >tfw not getting a proper cover pic direct from baen

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 13:21:07 2017 No.9016819 >>9015420 It will be at least 2018 before anyone who was recommended Malazan here will finish it. >>9016738 >brown eyes >white

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 13:24:06 2017 No.9016828 What's the funniest fantasy novel?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 14:13:34 2017 No.9017026 >>9016819 >It will be at least 2018 before anyone who was recommended Malazan here will finish it. I read Malazan after hearing about it here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 14:57:43 2017 No.9017195 File: 237 KB, 1920x1080, 1359102494749.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is the greatest, most influential science fiction novel of the last decade?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 16:32:01 2017 No.9017606 >>9016725 Roar?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 16:32:29 2017 No.9017610 File: 3.26 MB, 1843x2835, 9781447273288Children%20of%20Time[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This any good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 16:42:41 2017 No.9017676 >>9017606 Meow?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 16:45:34 2017 No.9017687 >>9016828 English Humor? Cabal the Necromancer

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 16:46:36 2017 No.9017690 >>9017676 I was asking if you were a Dino

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 16:48:16 2017 No.9017701 >>9017687 Only the first one is any good. That series really falls off a cliff.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 16:58:20 2017 No.9017747 >>9017690 Probably not. Although I've read and intend to continue reading dino-meme titles, by volume I'm 60s-90s schlock. New stuff just doesn't often catch my eye.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 17:18:16 2017 No.9017827 >>9017195 Ready Player One

Anonymous Tue Jan 24 17:26:48 2017 No.9017861

>>9016828
This Book Is Full of Spiders. You can read it without reading John Dies at the End and you probably should. It's definitely low humor, but I laughed my ass off all the same, and there's more than enough valid social psychology discussion to keep you satisfied that your brain isn't decomposing

I should clarify that it's technically a zombie horror book but as far as I'm concerned it's fantasy/lovecraftian

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 17:35:05 2017 No.9017898 >>9017861 Lovecraft himself did zombies. Are the zombies in the book like Lovecraft zombies?

Anonymous Tue Jan 24 17:59:10 2017 No.9017976

>>9017898
Didn't know lovecraft did zombies.

The variety are parasite zombies, but their nature is neo/suburban-lovecraftian. think stranger things, starring Harold and Kumar who keep a syringe full of a substance way too sentient to be heroine in case shit ever gets real. Side effects include liver damage, changes in perceptions of time, and being psychically splattered against the wall of a trailer

Anonymous Tue Jan 24 17:59:28 2017 No.9017978
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>>9006477
I finished Alloy of Law today. I thought it was highly ironic that Kelsier's religion became one for "people that think for themselves" considering his entire movement is founded on lies ie. pretending to be resurrected.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 19:12:31 2017 No.9018224 File: 334 KB, 962x1500, 91sjn2m58tl-_sl1500_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9013859 Can Night Watch be read as a standalone?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 19:22:32 2017 No.9018253 >>9018224 Probably. Might help to read a wiki article or something on Vimes first, just so you know his character.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 19:23:46 2017 No.9018256 >>9010930 How about sentient drugs? Try John dies at the end

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 20:26:34 2017 No.9018411 >>9018224 Go ahead, you can always go back to Guards! Guards! after. There aren't any cliffhangers at the ends of Discworld books i think. >>9018253 Reading a wiki article isn't even that necessary.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 21:02:31 2017 No.9018544 File: 56 KB, 537x540, Cosmere.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9017978 Cosmere is a wacky universe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 21:07:50 2017 No.9018555 I finally got around to reading I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream. Absolutely horrified me. Where do I go from here?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 21:14:04 2017 No.9018575 >>9018555 Read more of Ellison's stuff. It's all very depressing/horrifying, so you should be very pleased.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 21:15:43 2017 No.9018583 >>9018575 This. In particular Strange Wine has more of a horror focus compared to his other collections

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 22:16:47 2017 No.9018747 >>9017026 So did I and then I stopped halfway through the first book because it was so poorly written. Well memed, you guys, you definitely got me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 22:30:18 2017 No.9018793 File: 2.82 MB, 414x382, 1484358830279.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9017978 >pretending

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 22:50:45 2017 No.9018854 >>9011432 If you don't like it, you shouldn't even be reading SF. Go back to Sanderson and magic systems.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 22:52:39 2017 No.9018858 >>9012914 As long as we're talking about it, A Fire Upon The Deep.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 23:37:52 2017 No.9018949 File: 114 KB, 670x628, wulfen.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] two boxes of these shits and already can't be arsed

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 23:39:23 2017 No.9018952 >>9018858 That's not fantasy, bub.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 23:40:28 2017 No.9018955 >>9018793 Letting a Kandra swallow your bones and pretend to be you isn't the same as coming back to life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 24 23:49:18 2017 No.9018977 File: 16 KB, 250x380, lord foul's bane.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is the whole Thomas Covenant series worth reading, or only the first trilolgy? Or only the first two trilogies? Do the first two trilogies feel conclusive?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 25 00:00:03 2017 No.9019006 >>9015420 Book of the meme Sun is so much better than Malazan it's not even funny.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 25 00:09:02 2017 No.9019030 NEW THREAD >>9019027 >>9019027 >>9019027 >>9019027

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 25 01:54:20 2017 No.9019224 >>9018747 You're a fucking idiot. Malazan books are good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 25 01:56:55 2017 No.9019231 >>9018977 The books are shit.

Anonymous Wed Jan 25 06:11:32 2017 No.9019633
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>>9018854
I enjoyed the writing style a lot as well as elements of the world building, I just wasn't crazy about smart dogs and kids, so if the rest of the book was that, I wouldn't be into it. I'm going back to it now.

Anonymous Wed Jan 25 09:30:13 2017 No.9020048

>>9018977
I liked the first trilogy, but I never could stand Tommy himself and I came close to dropping the first book.

The second trilogy was OK but not as good as the first. I've never gotten around to reading the Final Chronicles and I haven't heard good things about it.

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