/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.8926765]

While we wait for the /pol/ storm to blow over, let's get a communist literature thread going!

[Anonymous No.8926862]

What books are about the time after the revolution? Kidnapped by RLS has the fantastic character of Alan Breck - the Jacobite, radicals that the socialists descend from. In The Invisible Man the protagonist spends time with the bourgeoisie communists in NYC. I think his turn from them to the underground is an interesting characterization of a true alternative. Also, packed with the symbolism of the subaltern where minoritiarian groups find freedom from capitalism.
The novels of the existentialists are looking for a revolutionary movement to break them out of the nausea of modern society.
Really, the vast majority of worthy reading is found in theory though.

[Anonymous No.8926887]

>while we wait for the cancer to subside lets inject ourselves with aides

[Anonymous No.8927265]

>>8926862
>Really, the vast majority of worthy reading is found in theory though.
Pic related

Also inb4 >plebbit
There's a pretty new/small reading group over at /r/socialistreaders for anyone who's interested. It's comfy, none of that SJW/idpol garbage that you see from a lot of other fb/reddit/tumblr leftists

[Anonymous No.8927280]

>>8926765
Anyone know where I can find the source to these quotes?

"Despite the massive intellectual feat that Marx's Capital represents, the Marxian contribution to economics can be readily summarized as virtually zero. Professional economics as it exists today reflects no indication that Karl Marx ever existed. This neither denies nor denigrates Capital as an intellectual achievement, and perhaps in its way the culmination of classical economics. But the development of modern economics had simply ignored Marx. Even economists who are Marxists typically utilize a set of analytical tools to which Marx contributed nothing, and have recourse to Marx only for ideological, political, or historical purposes."
-Thomas Sowell

"Marx was an important and influential thinker, and Marxism has been a doctrine with intellectual and practical influence. The fact is, however, that most serious English-speaking economists regard Marxist economics as an irrelevant dead end"
-Robert Solow

"Economists working in the Marxian-Sraffian tradition represent a small minority of modern economists, and that their writings have virtually no impact upon the professional work of most economists in major English-language universities"
-George Stigler

[Anonymous No.8927281]

>>8927265
forgot pic lel

[Anonymous No.8927297]

>>8927280
A world of pure imagination

[Anonymous No.8927302]

>>8927265
>There's a pretty new/small reading group over at /r/socialistreaders for anyone who's interested.
DUDE REDDIT BRIGADES TO ESTABLISH A /lit/ COLONY IS JUST A MEME

[Anonymous No.8927342]

>>8927302
Time to stop posting and read a book bro.

[Anonymous No.8927366]

>>8927280
>Sowell, Thomas, "Marxism: Philosophy and Economics"
>Robert M. Solow, "The Wide, Wide World of Wealth, "New York Times, March 28, 1988, excerpt (from a review of The New Palgrave: A Dictionary of Economics, 1987).
>Stigler, George J. (December 1988). "Palgrave's Dictionary of Economics". Journal of Economic Literature. American Economic Association. 26 (4): 1729–36. JSTOR 2726859.

[Anonymous No.8927372]

>>8926765
FUCK OFF

[Anonymous No.8927517]

Reading Conquest of Bread atm and it's pretty good

[Anonymous No.8927521]

>>8927265
fuck off redditor

[Anonymous No.8927529]

what about CCCP approved fiction?
is Gorky a good short story writer? any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.8927552]

>>8927366
ahh, thankyou

[Anonymous No.8927555]

Who /hype/ for this?

[Anonymous No.8927682]

>>8927555
Why should I be hyped honestly? I don't trust a lot of Western historians on the subject of communism very much.

[Anonymous No.8928146]

>>8927682
>firefly reaction image
Could this thread be any more reddit?

[Gold No.8928272]

>>8928146
Upvote
Gold in all fields

[Anonymous No.8928285]

>>8928146
It's also "meh.jpg" lmao get a load of this redditor

[Anonymous No.8928290]

>>8928285
>>8928146
>They're so new that they associate meh and Firefly with tumbler
/pol/migrants get out

[Anonymous No.8928328]

>>8928290

You mean ... we have to go back??

No I don't think so, I think I'm gonna stay here for quite a long time.

Isn't diversity what you want?? I thought diversity was our strengh!!!

Enjoy your cultural enrichment

[Anonymous No.8928417]

>>8927281
>no bordiga

liberal detected

[Anonymous No.8928438]

>>8928328
nice bubble argument
you don't know what we believe in, we are not liberals...

I don't care about africans feels just class warfare so we can change the material conditions and bring about a new phase of human development. Like a new enlightenment

[Anonymous No.8928497]

>>8926862
>the Jacobite, radicals that the socialists descend from

Is there any truth to this theory or essays/literature that elaborate on it.

Because as someone who lives in the central belt of Scotland, I can usually tell a man's politics based on their surname. (Be they descended from Jacobites or Hanoverians)

[Anonymous No.8928620]

>>8928417
I didn't make this but I do love me some bordiga

[Anonymous No.8928667]

Didn't some fags from /leftypol/ say they were going to start posting here and on /his/ to try and start a communist overthrow of 4chan?

[Anonymous No.8928675]

>>8928667
Please keep this literature related instead of retarded 'le internet war' shit

[Anonymous No.8928682]

>>8926765
Here's an interesting article that provides a history of CIA involvement in literature circles during the Cold War.
https://newrepublic.com/article/138946/literary-agents
Also, these books: Finks: How the CIA Tricked the World’s Best Writers, The Mighty Wurlitzer: How the CIA Played America

>"The Paris Review, however, was not part of the CCF. Unlike the CCF magazines, which were generally both political and literary, The Paris Review remained theoretically “apolitical.” But Whitney shows that the CIA’s cultural Cold War helped to shape its content just the same. One of The Paris Review’s editors, Nelson Aldrich Jr., discovered that a government agency had purchased 460 copies of one issue and taken out ten subscriptions. “As far as possible, this information should remain secret,” he cautioned his colleagues. The CCF effectively subsidized many little magazines simply by being a large and regular purchaser."

>"Through such relationships, the CIA wielded undue influence on the literary landscape. Whitney makes a compelling case, for instance, that the CIA reinforced the literary prestige of white men in American letters. If other nations believed that race relations in America were poor, the agency feared, it would damage our ability to lead the “free” world. So the CIA sponsored African American voices only if their critique of U.S. society wasn’t too sweeping. And even writers it did support, like Richard Wright, found that the CIA was spying on them at the same time. “I lift my hand to fight communism,” Wright wrote, “and I find that the hand of the Western world is sticking knives into my back.” Ex-Communist Ralph Ellison, author of Invisible Man, attended some CCF events; he was the only black writer featured in The Paris Review’s “Art of Fiction” series until the 1980s."

[Anonymous No.8928689]

>>8928675
Have you not noticed the increase of communist and anarchist shit being posted here today?

[Anonymous No.8928702]

>>8928689
Do yo remember the massive group of Christian Anarchists after some people got around to reading Anna Karenina? Do you also remember in 2014 when a neo-Nazi forum began to make coordinated efforts to raid 4chan?

Also, there are at least two threads on Atlas Shrugged.

[Anonymous No.8928722]

>>8928689
>so new doesn't remember when /lit/ used to be filled with commies, anarchists, and chrisfags
sasuga /pol/

[Anonymous No.8928761]

[Anonymous No.8928777]

>>8928689
waaaaaaah waaaaaaaaaah

Shut up, retard.

Anyone who browses /lit/ knows that the board goes through stages.

[Anonymous No.8928782]

We've always been communist here because we genuinely frown on capitalist activity and shitpost and sometimes raid anyone who tries to do it on here. You all really have a way of saying one thing and doing another.

[Anonymous No.8928789]

>>8928761
Nice movies m8. Now time to read a book.

[TWPoet !!mQAvKw6nzRr No.8928794]

Here's a lazy copy-paste of some socialist literature I recommended if anyone is interested.

The Communist Manifesto if you need a short and sweet version of the inherent inequalities of capitalism and the overall objectives and goals of socialism (it's only ~50 pages so you might as well).

Das Kapital if you're hardcore like that and really want to go in depth with Marxism (very long).

The Jungle by Upton Sinclair if you can stomach it, and you're up for a critique of laissez-faire capitalism that will make you want to vomit.

Animal Farm by George Orwell if you want a critique of State-Capitalism (Stalinism), socialism's own boogieman. A decent allegory of the events leading up to Stalin's Soviet Union.

1984 by George Orwell is a good book on cult of personality and totalitarianism, if you're into that sort of thing.

And now, for a few honorable mentions:

The State and Revolution (Vladimir Lenin)
The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State (Engels)
Socialism: Utopian and Scientific (Engels)
The German Ideology (Marx)
The Condition of the Working Class in England (Engels)
Homage to Catalonia (Orwell)
What Is to Be Done? (Lenin)
Grundrisse: Foundations of the Critique of Political Economy (Marx)

These are just a few of the books you should read if you want to have a better conception of Marxism.

Really, you can't go wrong with anything by Marx, Lenin, Engels, Orwell, or even Hegel for that matter. Just keep in mind that this list is non-exhaustive, and that there is much more on socialism and Marxism than what I just posted.

[Anonymous No.8928803]

Are there any history books on the USSR from a Russian perspective? Every author I read always finds the need to insert their liberal opinion in.

[Anonymous No.8928807]

>>8928328
I live in America and there is a lot of blacks here, and I'm living pretty well.

[Anonymous No.8928815]

>implying there's any /pol/ on this board other than that one shitposter who does it for reasons unknown
also why did i bump this shit thread

[Anonymous No.8928822]

>>8927280
Stupid plea to authority.
>the Marxian-Sraffian tradition
That makes no sense, Sraffa was a neo-ricardian and saw no fundamental internal contradictions to capitalist development

[Anonymous No.8928914]

>>8928682
>people with taste didn't recommend irrelevant minority whiners because of a secret government conspiracy to read the Paris Review