ITT: we laugh at other 'readers' this thread is a gold mine >>>/pol/105556246

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ITT: we laugh at other 'readers'

this thread is a gold mine

>>>/pol/105556246

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 04:53:12 2017 No.8924914 File: 83 KB, 1375x600, hmmmm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8924905 /pol/ is brilliant

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 04:55:09 2017 No.8924919

>I tried reading at work in my downtime but my bosses got pissed
I used to read on the train into work and I came in with a book (actually, I always did) which I'd stick in my bag as soon as I walked in. I was 20 at the time and working in a restaurant. Anyways, mgmt looked at me and became livid that I had walked into a server job with a book, hadn't even clocked in, just was holding the thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 04:57:03 2017 No.8924923 File: 3.98 MB, 4784x2720, 1483508921804[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8924905 >from that thread

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 05:02:31 2017 No.8924930 Two books in four days ain't too bad

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 05:05:13 2017 No.8924936 >Written to so people can "empathize" with the pedo. It's written in such a way that it makes it seem as if Lolita is the one stirring trouble, and not the pedo. Don't fall for the trick, degenerates. /pol/ on Lolita. Did you fall for it, /lit/?

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 05:18:11 2017 No.8924963 File: 572 KB, 600x580, 2ec.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8924923 this can't be real

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 05:22:07 2017 No.8924966 >>8924953 >>8924963 Try the redpill, idiots

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 05:29:52 2017 No.8924979 File: 108 KB, 727x509, 1472584896948.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8924923 Take a good look at those unblemished virgin spines.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 05:32:44 2017 No.8924990 File: 140 KB, 600x400, 1483415063041.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8924979 >that clearly unread mein kampf >all those second hand books so it looks like they read them

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 05:36:37 2017 No.8925000 File: 67 KB, 1180x612, 1483522693291.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >THESE are the 'authours' that politifaggots read Can't make this shit up!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 05:38:39 2017 No.8925008 >>8925000 What's wrong with them?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 05:44:18 2017 No.8925023 >>8925008 Half the list is made up of children's books.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 05:45:22 2017 No.8925025 >>8925023 For example?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 05:47:10 2017 No.8925028 >>8925008 You must have not looked hard enough. Half of the books are pseud memes like Homer and Cervantes, and the other half is comprised of children's 'authors' like Heinlein, Herbert, and, god forbid, Tolkien.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 05:48:35 2017 No.8925032 >>8925025 London, T.H. White, Robert Howard, Steven Erikson, Dune, Arthur C. Clarke to name a few.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 05:48:52 2017 No.8925034 >>8925025 Most of L

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 05:49:06 2017 No.8925035 >>8925028 >>8925032 I think you're just looking for reasons to make fun of /pol/. You're reaching hard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 05:49:33 2017 No.8925037 >>8925028 You are the worst kind of pseud

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 05:50:32 2017 No.8925038 >>8925037 >>8925035 t. politifaggots or the guy whose image i posted

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 05:51:34 2017 No.8925041 >>8925000 >paulo coelho Why, of all the fucking Brazilian writers, this guy has to be the most famous one?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 05:52:04 2017 No.8925043 File: 66 KB, 620x518, 1473333613870.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8925035 You're wrong.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 05:55:55 2017 No.8925051 >>8925041 Obviously because he is the most accessible for idiots thanks to his retarded one liners.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 06:00:51 2017 No.8925057 >>8924905 The best collection of Wittgenstein books Ive seen on 4chan I saw on a /toy/ thread when some anon posted a picture of the anime figures on his shelf.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 06:10:24 2017 No.8925081 Why are you in any way surprised by the retardation of /pol/?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 06:10:53 2017 No.8925082 >>8925008 they aren't good, but I wouldn't say it's a bad list like >>8925023 >>8925028 these guys are trying to make out. it's full of scifi if that isn't your thing i guess.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 06:15:02 2017 No.8925089 >>8924923 Well I guess he voted from Trump

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 06:16:30 2017 No.8925090 >>8925081 What surprises me more is the retardation of /lit/.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 06:23:33 2017 No.8925109 >>8925090 really makes you think

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 06:23:40 2017 No.8925110 I don't get it where is the problem? I get the feeling that you are just a person looking to spread his own political agenda.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 06:26:57 2017 No.8925116 >>8925110 Only leftists should be able to read books, didn't you know?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 06:30:28 2017 No.8925125 >>8925110 Do you post the same response when we have plebbit threads? :^) They're equally retarded, and this is a way to laugh at people who don't know good literature. It's shit, but it's /lit/ culture and always has been. Dry your eyes

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 06:32:40 2017 No.8925132 >>8925028 >Psued memes like Homer if bait 10/10 otherwise go fucking kill yourself untermensch

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 06:40:28 2017 No.8925152 File: 100 KB, 342x245, 1481226596884.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8924905 This has to be some sort of satire.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 06:46:00 2017 No.8925168 Need I remind everyone that there has been a perpetual science fiction and fantasy general on this board for like three years now? Neo/lit/ is no better than /pol/. Deal with it pseuds.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 06:48:53 2017 No.8925172 >>8925090 >no u really activates my almonds

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 06:50:06 2017 No.8925173 >>8925168 It's a containment thread in fairness. >Neo/lit/ is no better than /pol/ In having literary taste? That's clearly wrong. Stop being so butthurt

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 06:51:18 2017 No.8925176

>>8925125
>C'mon, gais - can't you thee theeth cwowns don't bewong in our thecwet cwub?

I think >>8924923 is b8 to cause /lit/ to say some "commie" shit so they can take it back to /pol/ and say we're all godless faggots (as if that claim required any evidence). One comment about Clive Cussler and that dime-store flag, and you know someone's gonna go HAM.

This place is basically a testing-ground for actual sociocultural warfare, you know.

Stay woke.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 06:52:12 2017 No.8925178 File: 390 KB, 640x640, 1322.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8925172 >triggered That's cute. Have a right-wing wolf girl.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 06:53:07 2017 No.8925180

>>8925152

>pulls out camera
>starts to take picture of bookshelf
>notices orgy of warhammer books
>moves them
>once again start to take picture of bookshelf
>notice Piers Anthony collection
>moves them
>takes picture of Candide and Mein Kampf

Welp...

^Is taken from that thread, reads like satire indeed

>>	Fuck you and the nazi horse yo(...) Wed Jan 4 06:57:25 2017 No.8925190 >>8925178 Fucking cunt, how dare you ruin the image of the wise wolf

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 06:57:27 2017 No.8925191 >>8925000 >no evola >no land >no nietzche and yet every time someone brings them up on this board they get accused of being from /pol/. really churns the noggin'.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 06:58:50 2017 No.8925196 File: 92 KB, 622x521, 1300.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8925190 Horo would be a Trump supporter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:03:17 2017 No.8925207 Stop reading what I don't like

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:04:44 2017 No.8925210 File: 106 KB, 500x500, 1482595253244.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8925178 >he thinks i am mad

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:06:20 2017 No.8925217 File: 7 KB, 209x241, Yukio Mishima.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8925178 >Swastika >Right-wing

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:07:37 2017 No.8925220
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>>8925196
>"You know what Darling, Athens was at its best under the rule of the council of 400."

You wouldn't think people who write about these monster girl things would make them so politically aware.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:12:53 2017 No.8925235 >>8925178 I want Horo to spoon me in my sleep :3

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:14:02 2017 No.8925236 >>8925231 I'm actually kind of jelly of the entire Judge Dredd compilation. I have no idea what that other shit is though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:14:03 2017 No.8925237 File: 132 KB, 551x633, 1483054133386.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8925227 >>8925228 >>8925231 Just imagine how much that must have costed

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:16:55 2017 No.8925242 >>8925227 >>8925228 >>8925231 >>8918883 very funny

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:17:12 2017 No.8925244

Why do people talk about the spines of books so much when trying to see if someone has read the book or not?

Do you people bend them like cavemen so people won't make fun of you? None of the books I have look any different from when I first bought and read them

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:18:08 2017 No.8925246 File: 60 KB, 500x495, tumblr_inline_nt0vfexkpK1spsojg_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8925227 >>8925228 >>8925231 >wasting that much time and money on made up Japanese children cartoon stories

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:19:39 2017 No.8925249 >>8920156 another gold mine here

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:19:39 2017 No.8925250 >>8925246 >$300 tops is a lot of money t. Poor neet

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:20:01 2017 No.8925252

>>8925244

There must be some insecurity behind it. I think they're the types of people that will buy books just to be seen reading them and they project that onto other people. They couldn't take a picture of their bookshelf without cleaning up because they have an image they want to project.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:21:25 2017 No.8925255 File: 201 KB, 470x595, devilish.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8925244 I crack the spines on all my books even if I haven't read them yet just so it looks like I did >>8925250 300$ is a lot of money if it's spent on nothing but trash

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:22:22 2017 No.8925259 >>8925244 Yeah I try to take care of my books, so they don't end up creased and fucked up unless it's just one of those books that does that and you can't prevent it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:23:28 2017 No.8925261 >>8925228 What is up whit that order? >two before one Mental retardation

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:25:27 2017 No.8925265 >>8925246 LoGH is alright in my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:31:57 2017 No.8925280 >>8925231 >that one black Judge Dredd book really triggers my autism

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:50:04 2017 No.8925312 >>8925265 It's significantly better than "alright."

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:54:07 2017 No.8925319 >>8924923 >Warhammer books I KNEW those would be there before even clicking the image >Watchmen Does this guy know Alan Moore's an anarchist?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:55:34 2017 No.8925324 File: 13 KB, 329x187, Holo's_Signature.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8925196 >>8925235 >can't even spell her name right >thinks he knows anything about the character

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:56:09 2017 No.8925327 >>8925319 I somehow doubt he knows very much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 07:56:19 2017 No.8925328 >>8925246 The funny thing is that the manga on that shelf only comes to two hours of reading altogether.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:01:08 2017 No.8925345 >>8925312 I restrained myself. I don't want a bunch of >lol weeb tier comments It's pretty good actually.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:05:03 2017 No.8925358 >>8925327 He has Homage To Catalonia too I think he just picked everything from "must read" lists

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:05:25 2017 No.8925359 >>8925312 kys weeb

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:05:40 2017 No.8925360 File: 1.96 MB, 600x600, 1479114704701.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8925231 >that 03 edition of dredd

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:07:25 2017 No.8925365 >>8925358 dante, cervantes, walden too. So yeah, probably. Doubt he's read them, though, or surely he would've been humbled enough to take the rest of the shit down

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:07:25 2017 No.8925366 >>8925191 I want to emphasize this

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:08:54 2017 No.8925370 >>8925168 >Neo/lit is no better than /pol/ >Implying /lit/ is actually good

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:11:48 2017 No.8925383 >>8925035 Yea, how is something like Dune bad?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:13:17 2017 No.8925386 Can anyone recommend me some right-wing literature that isn't complete pseud shit? I'm a commie and there's plenty of quality leftist literature but I can't think of any good right wing literature.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:16:03 2017 No.8925396 >>8925028 Except Tolkien isn't a childrens book. It's very thick and kinda violent and scary.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:17:11 2017 No.8925399 >>8924936 The narrator is obviously supposed to be unreliable and you aren't supposed to take anything he says at face value.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:19:49 2017 No.8925409 >>8925386 How right wing exactly?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:20:21 2017 No.8925410 >>8925386 For economics you can't go wrong with Thomas Sowell. If you're looking a general book against socialism than Thomas Dilorenzo's The Problem with Socialism is great. Check out Ben Shapiro too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:20:35 2017 No.8925413 >>8925180 There's nothing wrong with Candide.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:21:18 2017 No.8925416 >>8925409 Anything will do, it's gotta be literature and not shit like Atlas Shrugged or Mein Kampf. >>8925410 >Ben Shapiro no thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:23:32 2017 No.8925422 >>8925413 It's unfunny, philosophically and morally bankrupt dog shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:23:34 2017 No.8925423 >>8925416 Milo has a new book. Anne Coulter and Gorilla mindset guy too. You should read those.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:24:24 2017 No.8925427 >>8925386 Dostoyevsky

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:25:59 2017 No.8925432 >>8925386 Laurus by Eugene Vodolazkin

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:27:26 2017 No.8925435 >>8925423 Stop recommending me sophist borderline conspiracy-theory drivel. >>8925427 What by Dostoyevsky do you recommend?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:29:04 2017 No.8925438 >>8925089 >implying that's a bad thing

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:29:35 2017 No.8925440

>>8925416

For economics, there isn't much good laymen books(for any ideology.)
I'd have a look at novels such as Friedman's Capitalism and Freedom and Hayek's Free to Choose.

For traditionalism:

Traditionalist books to read

Plato, Symposium, Laws, Republic, Trial, Meno and Phaedo
Aristotle, Ethics, Politics, Categories, Metaphysics
St Augustine, Confessions, City of God, Political Writings
Thomas Aquinas, Political Writings, Selected Writings
Hilaire Belloc, The Jews, The Servile State, Great Heresies, How the Reformation Happened
G. K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy Heretics
F. A. Hayek, Law, Legislation and Liberty, A Road to Serfdom
Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Gulag Archipelago
Alasdair MacIntyre, After Virtue, Whose Justice Which Rationality, Dependant Rational Animals
Fredrick Copleston, 9 volumes of History of Philosophy
Edward Feser, Aquinas, Scholastic Metaphysics
Elizabeth Anscombe, Collected Philosophical Papers
Karl Schmidt, Political Theology
Alexis de Tocqueville

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:31:19 2017 No.8925442 >>8925423 >>8925410 >Ben Shapiro >Ann Coulter Ignore the altistic right

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:32:19 2017 No.8925444 >>8925416 How come you don't like Ben? From what I've seen most liberals even respect him when they actually take the time to listen. I haven't read alot of his books but Bullies is solid.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:32:21 2017 No.8925445 >>8925440 *Friedman's Free to chooise

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:33:26 2017 No.8925449 >>8925442 >Ben Shapiro >alt right Are you just pretending to be retarded?

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:37:17 2017 No.8925459

>>8925440
Oh, and Edmund Burke is a MUST. Practically the founder of modern conservatism

I'd recommend An Appeal to the New Whigs and Reflections on the Revolution in France

of course, if you're open to classical liberalism as a right wing ideology there are a number of great writers. Adam Smith, for instance, is the often heralded as the father of economics & capitalism

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 08:41:47 2017 No.8925475 >>8925440 Not sure I'd recommend Laws unless it's for someone going through all of Plato and/or really interested in classical Greek legal issues.

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Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:00:12 2017 No.8925527

>>8925435
Dostoevsky isn't super rightist, mind you. He's just a Russian East Orthodox Christian that grew up under a monarchy and was skeptical of a change in government.

The obvious ones to read are:
Crime & Punishment
The Brothers Karamozov
The Idiot
Notes from the Underground

I would also recommend checking out Cormack McCarthy on whom Dostoevsky is a big influence. The Sunset Limited, No Country For Old Men, and Blood Meridian are all worth checking out and deal with moral themes that contrast Nihilism with traditionalist American moral values (I'll warn you though that those traditional values do not always clearly win in the novels)

I think though that anything made to be morally unambiguous is probably not worth reading.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:02:52 2017 No.8925536 >>8925527 Good stuff. I'm not the guy you're replying to but you've added to my reading list.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:08:21 2017 No.8925548 File: 26 KB, 500x320, pepegun.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8925028 >Tolkien a children's book

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:08:56 2017 No.8925552

>>8925440
Hayek is a pretty big waste of time. He wrote a bunch of books about "economics" that contain almost no substantiating mathematical data. All of Austrian economics is a joke in the Economics world.

If you want actually intelligent dissent against some assumptions in mainstream economics, check out the fresh water school. But be warned that most of what is out there is going to be technical essays.

Friedman isn't bad but he also suffers from a lack of substantiating data.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:15:46 2017 No.8925566 >>8925552 >not recommending glorious Marxian economics

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:18:27 2017 No.8925574 >>8925552 >All of Austrian economics is a joke in the Economics world Well done comrade. You get to go in front of the food line.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:19:07 2017 No.8925576

>>8925552
I specifically mention that they are layman books. I don't think comanon wants to read A Monetary History of the United States by Friedman or Hayek's work on the economic calculation problem (which was accepted into mainstream economics and may hurt feelings)

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:20:51 2017 No.8925582

>>8925527
>>8925435

Dostoyevsky wasn't "rightist" for his time, almost no artist is. You have to have compassion for all your characters. You need to know how people really think. All great authors need empathy, and people on the right tend to lack that.

If you are looking for the politics of the right in Dostoyevsky, you'll be disappointed. He doesn't share that worldview.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:21:59 2017 No.8925587 >>8925566 >Marxian economics >Not complete and utter trash that has devolved so far that "Marxian" ""economists"" just use that name for political or ideological purposes kek

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:25:10 2017 No.8925600

>>8925566
First of all, he asked for conservative works.

Second, Marxist economics is important for its contribution to things like World Systems Analysis and critiquing the general implementation of capitalism.

As a cohesive theory of economics it is garbage. If I remember correctly, it attempts to asset that Labor input is the thing from which value is determined which is demonstrably false.

It has some good points against the assumptions and negatives of capitalism but offers no really feasible alternative.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:31:12 2017 No.8925609

>>8925582
>Dostoyevsky wasn't "rightist" for his time, almost no artist is.
Oh, don't worry, anon. I know this. It's why I made sure to tell the man that Dostoevsky was just a Christian that lived under a monarchy.

He deals with some conflicts if morality and philosophy between traditional and egoist values.

What I think is extremely funny about people considering Dostoevsky rightist is that the modern right seems to be the most on board for Raskalnikov-esque individual egoism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:35:39 2017 No.8925621 >>8925191 Nobody on /pol/ has actually read Evola, they just come here and make those shitty "/pol/ here, how do I into Evola?" nonsense threads.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:36:52 2017 No.8925623 >>8925365 He also wouldn't have bought the fucking Penguin translation of Don Quixote. At least it's not Everyman.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:37:00 2017 No.8925624 >>8924905 Tbh i get his guy.I too don't feel like reading for some pretty long periods of time (3-4 months) and when i pick up a book again it's usually something easy like a dystopian sci-fi novel.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:37:40 2017 No.8925626 >>8925386 Check out On Liberty, the Wealth of Nations and also Reflections on the Revolution in France. Good places to start.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:38:01 2017 No.8925629

>>8925621
I decided to give Evola a 'shot' the other day, I don't know if it was the translation or his actual writing, but I found myself repeatedly re-reading sentences because they were in such a jumbled variant of english. People don't actually read him, right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:39:03 2017 No.8925632 >>8925386 Montaigne's Essais. Bear in mind he's, like most patricians, neither solidly left nor right; he was cautious. Cautious of social change, but critical of society. Mishima. Never read him but he seems patrish af.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:40:15 2017 No.8925636

>>8925576
Honestly, I never recommend reading layman books when it comes to things like econ. It's a technical field that requires technical information to understand. If you want to understand it, you need to put in the effort to understand how it's core systems and theories operate.

Most layman books will not really add any economic knowledge to the reader but instead give them a set of arguments for arguing logically when most real argument in economics is statistical and deals merely with what fits the data best.

You'd be much better served reading a macro or microeconomics textbook. People that want to "get rid of the Fed" or nonsense like that will go off on tangents about the business cycle not existing for days but I find that most can't even explain the core goals and mechanisms by which the Federal Reserve operates. That's basic shit you need to learn first if you want to argue economics without looking like an asshole.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:41:41 2017 No.8925644 >>8925629 No, he's legitimately bad. He espouses like fifty contradictory viewpoints at once.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:44:48 2017 No.8925651

>>8925626
>Wealth of Nations
Do not read Wealth of Nations. Adam Smith is important for historical reasons. His theories today are archaic, long winded and often outright wrong. We have learned a hell of a lot since Adam Smith and are much better at analysing data.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:45:51 2017 No.8925653 >>8925621 >Nobody on /pol/ has actually read ftfy I'm joking ofc, but it's apparent that the political view of a typical /pol/lack is developed without the support of literature. This can be both good or bad; I don't want to draw any conclusions.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:47:27 2017 No.8925656 >>8925651 I think it's still definitely worth reading to get a handle on the origin of a lot of capitalistic though, we're talking about the man who coined the "invisible hand" after all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:49:52 2017 No.8925666 >>8925651 >Don't read the founder of a field because he was wrong Yeah, no

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:53:12 2017 No.8925682 >>8925653 I think it's very rare nowadays to find someone who based their politics of the literature they've read.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 09:55:23 2017 No.8925688

>>8925656
If you want you can read selections from it I wouldn't argue against that but I'm telling you that no economics course is ever going to have you read Adam Smith unless it is in some way a historical economics course.

He's responsible for the basis but almost no economist needs to read Adam Smith. Every important thing he came up with or explains in Wealth of Nations is explained better and more directly in contemporary educational materials.

While the "invisible hand" is a nice metaphor, it was created to introduce a new concept with an analogy. The way markets and distribution of goods work is today no longer a mystery and most laymen understand the forces of supply and demand.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:00:43 2017 No.8925697

>>8925666
He provided a framework and vocabulary but many individual arguments are wrong.

Economics is somewhat a science and a discourse. We have, as I said, come a long way since Smith. All you're doing by reading him is learning the basics of economic theory as illustrated with examples that are mostly incorrect or use primitive forms of analysis.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:04:44 2017 No.8925710 File: 371 KB, 1280x850, nurembergr1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8924905 Kill yourselves untermenschen.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:08:15 2017 No.8925718 File: 23 KB, 246x299, adolf-hitler[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8925710 Deus fucking Vult, white brother. Don't let these libcucks get to you. Their simply brainwashed

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:08:36 2017 No.8925720 >>8925168 /lit/ has always been one of the worst boards >unironically leftist >unironically majors in English lit >unironically reads second-wave feminist harpies >unironically egalitarian

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:09:53 2017 No.8925727 ITT: Redditcucks

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:10:58 2017 No.8925730 >>8924923 What's a good book on the Crusades and Templars?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:11:29 2017 No.8925732 File: 140 KB, 500x512, Rafal Ganowicz.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8925720 THE worst.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:13:56 2017 No.8925741 >>8925718 >>8925710 i love ironic polposting

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:14:55 2017 No.8925748 >>8925710 >>8925718 >>8925720 >>8925727 >>8925732 Ah, yes the inevitable backlash as /pol/tards realize we're making fun of them. Go back to your Robert Jordan and Clive Cussler novels.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:16:17 2017 No.8925752 >>8925748 Go back to reading your fantasy novels while your leftist parties continue to suck on capitalist piggy cock

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:18:38 2017 No.8925760 >>8925752 Haha, let's compare our last five books read, m8. Here, I'll start Pale Fire V Book of The New Sun The Crying of Lot 49 Faust

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:19:45 2017 No.8925764 >>8925760 Faust is okay. Pale Fire is not.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:21:14 2017 No.8925768 File: 33 KB, 634x182, evolution_to_deus_vult.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8925748 Continue living in your fucking fantasy world You should read some more books on hiw to be a professional cuck

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:22:12 2017 No.8925776 File: 208 KB, 327x316, 2ec.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8925760 >Pale Fire

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:23:42 2017 No.8925782

>>8925760
>Pale Fire
A book by a confirmed pedarist

>V
Lolsorandum po-mo garbage

>Book of the New Sun
A literal fantasy novel.

>The Crying of Lot 49
Lolsorandum po-mo garbage

>Faust
Literally the only book worth reading.

Man, the degeneracy is strong with this one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:25:50 2017 No.8925790 >>8925764 >>8925768 >>8925776 >>8925782 >all this orchestrated butthurt

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:26:24 2017 No.8925792 >>8925782 >this is your "brain" on /pol/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:27:25 2017 No.8925796 >>8925768 So the refugees are turning into the crusaders?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:28:38 2017 No.8925804 File: 52 KB, 604x604, tumblr_no8xp5HN551rn7bzro1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8925782 >dismisses V, Pale Fire, TCoL49, and BotNS >makes a star wars reference at the end

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:29:38 2017 No.8925807 >>8925760 >Haha, let's compare our last five books read, m8. Okay children, that's enough.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:32:18 2017 No.8925821 >>8925807 High Fidelity has a strong influence, get with it. >not arranging your bookshelves in autobiographical order

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:32:31 2017 No.8925822 File: 839 KB, 1224x1584, 1358145225909.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:33:19 2017 No.8925827 >>8925822 dumbass politifaggot

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:35:24 2017 No.8925840 >>8925125 >laugh at people who don't know good literature you're a special kind of autist, aren't you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:35:43 2017 No.8925845 >>8925682 I said developed. And how many leftist have not read Karl Marx and then embraced his political view?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:37:33 2017 No.8925849 >>8925566 It is literally a bigger joke than Austrian economics.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 10:55:42 2017 No.8925915

>>8924914
>If you read Marx or Twilight or some shit

Whatever you think of Marx, mentioning him in the same context as Twilight just shows the pure ignorance of people like this. He's one of the most influential 'political enemies' of /pol/tards, and instead of reading him and trying to understand him they just dismiss him.

This can't even be called ideology, but shouting and repeating o 'edgy' meme phrases one read on the internet. This is what drives a voters judgement.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:02:03 2017 No.8925934 >>>/pol/105607550

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:03:24 2017 No.8925937 >>8925934 That guy reads French so he's already more patrician than most of /lit/.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:05:29 2017 No.8925940 >>8925934 >Making fun of someone who can speak two languages That makes he immediately better than 90% of /lit/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:09:59 2017 No.8925954 >>8925940 >>8925937 >Confusing your own lack of education with the boards τοππεστ kεk

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:14:04 2017 No.8925964 >>8925432 This, 10/10 book

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:14:28 2017 No.8925966 File: 1.34 MB, 4621x2914, 1483456973855.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8925748

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:17:42 2017 No.8925976 >>8925966 That image is always worth a wew.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:18:13 2017 No.8925978 >>8925954 Overall /lit/ is mostly EOPs. I myself am quite proficient in French and Japanese (currently reading Considérations sur la France and 金閣寺).

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:18:30 2017 No.8925979
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>>8925966
this picture is fucking hilarious
look at pic related. the guy is just saying

"Political correctness is similar to newspeak!! it attacks taboo research!! like biological differences!!" but it does it in """flowchart""" form to appear smart.

such a bitter, bitter image.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:20:06 2017 No.8925985 >>8925954 Oh yes everyone on /lit/ is a 6"4 male model who can speak 6 languages and has an iq of 140 No you're all a bunch of degenerate losers like everyone else on 4chan

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:20:52 2017 No.8925986 So this is /lit/? Seems like shit. How do you like my slam poetry, faggots?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:23:32 2017 No.8926000 >>8925986 redpilled as fuck bro, fuck normies and praise lord kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:28:31 2017 No.8926028 >>8925028 What a pretentious homosexual

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:32:04 2017 No.8926042 >>8925168 Remember when everyone here loved that illiterate Asian meme author just because he was edgy and new? I forget his name, Tyger Li or something

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:33:20 2017 No.8926045 >>8925383 is hot garbage fucking polittors

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:33:54 2017 No.8926046 >>8926042 i thought we just liked him because he was one of us

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:38:09 2017 No.8926055 wew this is the most retarded and pseudo intellectual board on 4chan get a gf you incels

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:38:20 2017 No.8926056 >>8925915 Karl Marx is literally the Stephanie Meyer of political philosophy Team Stalin vs Team Mao was the original Team Edward vs Team Jacob

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:40:26 2017 No.8926065 File: 76 KB, 500x667, Turkish Roach.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:42:17 2017 No.8926070 >>8926056 >Team Stalin vs Team Mao was the original Team Edward vs Team Jacob Wrong, Mao is Edward not Jacob. Mao was obviously right, just like Edward/Bella is and was obviously the OTP.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:42:47 2017 No.8926073 >>8926055 this

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:42:52 2017 No.8926074

>>8925822
>>8925827
>dumbass politifaggot
>>8925915
>instead of reading him and trying to understand him they just dismiss him.
>This can't even be called ideology, but shouting and repeating o 'edgy' meme phrases one read on the internet. This is what drives a voters judgement.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:44:36 2017 No.8926083 >>8926055 >>8926073 >/pol/ faggots who fail to realize that 90% of /r9k/ browse /pol/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:44:43 2017 No.8926084 >>8926055 The circlejerking about how elite you are if you read certain books is worse than 9gag.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:45:59 2017 No.8926090 >>8926083 that explains the trap threads that pop up sporadically

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:48:21 2017 No.8926099 >>8926065 New Metamorphosis cover?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:50:02 2017 No.8926105 why are you fags still reading books? there is a reason movies & tv were invented

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:50:37 2017 No.8926112 >>8925319 Moore was an edgy leftist — by the standards of 1980s Bongladesh. He has already been turned upon and consumed by the NuLeft because LoEG had a rape scene or some shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:51:53 2017 No.8926117 >>8926105 Yeah, to lull people like you into passivity. >>>/pol/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:52:49 2017 No.8926119 You're all gay liberals

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:53:49 2017 No.8926122 >>8925651 The real reason you don't want him to read Adam Smith is because he wouldn't support the current notion of capitalism at all. He spoke favourably about worker cooperatives and detested corporate shills.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:55:07 2017 No.8926125 >>8926122 One thing far-leftists and far-rightists can agree on is that capitalism needs to be dismantled.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:55:51 2017 No.8926130 >>8926125 >One thing far-leftists and far-rightists can agree on is that capitalism needs to be dismantled. go ride a helicopter commie

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:56:44 2017 No.8926133 >>8926083 >/lit/ fails to realise that their false sense of intellectual superiority doesn't change the fact they are still inept losers or outcasts in some form like everyone else on this site

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:57:08 2017 No.8926137 File: 48 KB, 640x480, lit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926117 because reading a book is so active and progressive? kys fag, nobody likes pseudo intellectuals

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:57:54 2017 No.8926143 >>8926122 > the current notion of capitalism

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:57:58 2017 No.8926144 >>8926125 Capitalism is not Corporatism.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 11:59:33 2017 No.8926150

>>8925600
>If I remember correctly, it attempts to asset that Labor input is the thing from which value is determined which is demonstrably false.

Yeah, I read this in the introduction to Day Kapital at age 16 and deleted the pdf then and there

Marx was a fat pseudointellectual NEET who is noteworthy only because so many braindead morons have bought into his bullshit over centuries and despite the hundreds of millions of deaths caused by his disciples. Truly the world's first secular religion

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:00:41 2017 No.8926157
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>>8926125
Liberals love to appropriate every thinker into their camp, but a bunch of famous economists didn't advocate anything resembling the modern economic consensus.

For instance, John Stuart Mill was basically a market socialist.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:01:29 2017 No.8926160 >>8926150 I love pointing out to commies how truly irrelevant Marx is to economics. Even the fucking Austrians contributed more

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:01:29 2017 No.8926161 >>8926099 Animetamorphoses

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:01:32 2017 No.8926162 >>8926130 >>8926144 Just accept the fact that capitalism is incompatible with tradition and transcendent metaphysical values. It inevitably leads to the kind of ultra-materialistic, secular societies that fill the world today.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:03:10 2017 No.8926169 >>8926162 /pol/ retards will never admit that

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:03:33 2017 No.8926170 >>8926157 no one who even read a paragraph on wikipedia about stuart mill would call him libertarian in any shape you autist get a relevant example

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:05:50 2017 No.8926185 >>8926162 >capitalism is incompatible with tradition unless you mean varg tier traditionalism, the 19th century was the peak of free market capitalism and tradition and morality were 100% observed and sought after in the western world

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:05:58 2017 No.8926186

>>8925600
Shut up you fucking retard, you have no idea what you're talking about.

>MUH LABOUR THEORY OF VALUE
Which was created by Adam Smith. Marx was continuing the discourse of classical economics and pointing out its contradictions.

>Value "in exchange" is the relative proportion with which this commodity exchanges for another commodity (in other words, its price in the case of money). It is relative to labor as explained by Adam Smith:

The value of any commodity, ... to the person who possesses it, and who means not to use or consume it himself, but to exchange it for other commodities, is equal to the quantity of labour which it enables him to purchase or command. Labour, therefore, is the real measure of the exchangeable value of all commodities (Wealth of Nations Book l1, chapter V; emphasis added).

Value (without qualification) is the labor embodied in a commodity under a given structure of production. Marx defined the value of the commodity by the third definition. In his terms, value is the 'socially necessary abstract labor' embodied in a commodity. To Ricardo and other classical economists, this definition serves as a measure of "real cost", "absolute value", or a "measure of value" invariable under changes in distribution and technology.

Ricardo, other classical economists, and Marx began their expositions with the assumption that value in exchange was equal to or proportional to this labor value. They thought this was a good assumption from which to explore the dynamics of development in capitalist societies.

Other supporters of the labor theory of value used the word "value" in the second sense, to represent "exchange value"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:08:24 2017 No.8926199 >>8925730 The Bible

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:09:11 2017 No.8926206 >>8926070 Er no, it's more like Stalin was Edward and Trotsky was Jacob and Mao was 50 Shades of Grey

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:09:27 2017 No.8926210 >>8926185 What about National Capitalism?

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:09:55 2017 No.8926215
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Reading anything but textbooks that bring you real, practical and potentially monetizable knowledge and non-fiction is a pure waste of time and only limp-wristed faggots do it so they can circle jerk with other faggots and show off how smart and le cultured they are.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:11:08 2017 No.8926220 >>8926210 works nicely in vicky2

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:12:42 2017 No.8926230 >>8926215 wtf im a redpilled frogman now Deus Vult my white brother. Praise Kek!

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:13:46 2017 No.8926238

>>8926185
not really that is when things started to decline. all of the puritanical shit you see from that era was a reaction to urbanisation and "degeneracy" generally. but the problem is not so much "capitalism" as it is consumerism and materialist ideals.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:13:50 2017 No.8926239 File: 26 KB, 423x423, 1483308450411.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926000 Checked. Kek is generous today, it seems.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:15:22 2017 No.8926249 >>8926169 maybe in 2013 when /pol/ was more libertarian but most of the European posters and some of the americans are third way now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:17:24 2017 No.8926265 File: 306 KB, 820x550, Islam and Jewry.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926230 >dat passive aggressive bitch response Do you go on reddit too? Just curious.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:20:35 2017 No.8926284 >>8926265 I've (regrettably) browsed 4chan since 2009 and have never visited reddit. Does that upset you?

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:20:39 2017 No.8926286

>>8926215

>Implying my knowledge of Foucault isn't real, practical and monetizable in so far as it gets me laid with cute college age chicks and allows me to make a buck shitting out nonsense to the cultural columns of college papers

Enjoy your welding job, I'm sure the women will be fawning over you when they reach their thirties and are looking for a stable income.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:23:37 2017 No.8926306 >>8924966 >>8924987 samefag

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:25:03 2017 No.8926315 >>8926215 Why would it be a waste of time? Could you please define waste of time?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:26:50 2017 No.8926322 >>8926315 That which doesn't produce profit for rich capitalists

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:27:17 2017 No.8926327 >>8926286 I got to say physical labor and sports was literally nothing compared to the pussy of academics. Shit is crazy.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:32:26 2017 No.8926357
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>>8926286

>he needs to regurgitate pseudo-intellectual drivel of French marxists to get a girl.

Top lel. How ugly/short are you?

>I'm sure the women will be fawning over you when they reach their thirties and are looking for a stable income.

I'm sure those sluts who fucked the entire football team will be delighted to settle down with a "nice guy" like you that will provide for them while they fuck their fitness trainer behind your back :)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:32:46 2017 No.8926360 >>8925244 Some spines crease if you so much as look the book. My copy of Lolita (pretty slim book) looks like it's been read a thousand times while my Magic Mountain (quite thick book) looks brand new.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:33:15 2017 No.8926361 >>8926215 this

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:34:18 2017 No.8926365 >>8926322 MUH CAPITALISM MUH EXPLOITATION Shut Up and suck me neoliberal piggy cock

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:35:24 2017 No.8926370 >>8926286 >Needs mindless drivel to get laid Ouch. The Good Lord must have not been kind to you

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:38:03 2017 No.8926381 >>8926365 Why can't /pol/tards move past the vocabulary of 12 year-olds?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:41:33 2017 No.8926400 >>8926381 >being pretentious on a mongolian woodcarving board why bother? we don't care about writing pretty, lad

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:43:08 2017 No.8926412 >>8926215 Not exactly this way mate, but reading only to be able to circle jerk (like many do here for what it looks like) is indeed a faggotic thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:44:26 2017 No.8926416 >>8926381 >MUH PSEUDO INTELLECTUAL Mate we are on fucking 4chan. Don't forget your capital letters and full stops! Maybe you'll finally get laid!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:44:38 2017 No.8926417 File: 29 KB, 600x584, angry.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926365 If you are a neoliberal you are a fucking idiot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:44:58 2017 No.8926419 >>8926284 >2009 >proudly admitting to being a newfag Jesus Christ.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:45:52 2017 No.8926425 >>8926417 I am a proud unironic neoliberal. I utterly despise the poor and the working class. I was going to go post-grad in economics but I realised that finance was way more ((()))

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:47:41 2017 No.8926433 File: 1.90 MB, 480x360, vile kike.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926425 Fuck off sholmo, neoliberalism is the biggest cancer on earth right now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:52:22 2017 No.8926452 >>8925386 >I'm a commie and there's plenty of quality leftist literature R I P L O G I C

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:55:07 2017 No.8926469 >>8926425 this. the poor are ungrateful bastards who are too stupid to realise their own incapability

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:57:16 2017 No.8926485 File: 80 KB, 791x208, ratzis.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] They're reeing like fuck >>>/pol/105607795

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:57:49 2017 No.8926490 >>8925782 I'm from pol but BOTNS is legitimately amazing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:58:18 2017 No.8926494 File: 43 KB, 282x318, 1482097953258.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926469 What is this? A Synagogue? I hope you two don't come from /pol/.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:59:02 2017 No.8926497

>>8926162
Capitalism is literally the means by which you are having this conversation.

You would not have your mom's iPhone, your mom's computer, your mom's electricity, or anything else like that without capitalism.

> capitalism is incompatible with tradition and transcendent metaphysical values

Absolutely incorrect. What metaphysical values are you even claiming to espouse?

>It inevitably leads to the
Citation needed

>kind of ultra-materialistic, secular societies that fill the world today.
What's wrong with secularism? Do you prefer Islamic theocracies and kangaroo courts?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:59:18 2017 No.8926499 >>8926485 How ironic coming from /lit/.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 12:59:30 2017 No.8926500 >>8926485 >>8924905 Okay, OP here. I admit it. I made this thread and >>>/pol/105607795 to deliberately incite arguments. I'm sorry. not for /pol/ though, they can get fucked, fucking nazis

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:00:13 2017 No.8926503 >>8926425 >>8926469 that's just sad brehs I hope you'll never be poor, but you should probably try leaving your room before spouting bullcrap like you know what you're talking about.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:00:31 2017 No.8926507 >>8925319 >can't like a book unless you agree with author's politics even though basically nobody agrees with anarchy t. retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:00:46 2017 No.8926508 >>8926500 Not a poltard, but go suck a nigger dick you fucking faggot. Jesus.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:01:00 2017 No.8926511 >>8926500 >australian flag masterful

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:01:54 2017 No.8926513

>>8926497
not who you're replying to, but

>Capitalism is literally the means by which you are having this conversation.
>You would not have your mom's iPhone, your mom's computer, your mom's electricity, or anything else like that without capitalism.

citation fucking needed

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:02:45 2017 No.8926517 >>8926500 >dubs >australian >played two boards against eachother bravo

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:02:49 2017 No.8926518 >>8926485 >coming from /lit/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:03:52 2017 No.8926523 >>8926500 No? I'm the OP in the /pol/ thread? Get fucked mate

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:05:31 2017 No.8926531
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>>8926497
>You would not have your mom's iPhone, your mom's computer, your mom's electricity, or anything else like that without capitalism.
>Technology is capitalist.
>Consumism is traditional.
>Buy a new phone/car/whatever every year when you could have one that worked for 20 years is not wasting resources that our grandchildren could use.
Are all this retarded neoliberals coming from /pol/? I'm even ashamed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:05:58 2017 No.8926533 File: 43 KB, 498x296, Screen Shot 2017-01-05 at 2.05.18 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926523 No. <--- ID of my OP on that thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:06:24 2017 No.8926536 >>8926531 Well, the only "communist" societies found in the world are the cannibalistic pygmy tribes of the Congo...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:06:45 2017 No.8926540 File: 83 KB, 640x1200, feudalism.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926497 Is this a joke?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:06:59 2017 No.8926542 File: 21 KB, 420x420, 1480348696028.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926500 Love you too shekelstein.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:07:03 2017 No.8926543 File: 49 KB, 450x336, Screen Shot 2017-01-05 at 2.05.02 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926533 >>8926523 And here's a post I just made in that thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:07:08 2017 No.8926544 >>8926523 >>8926500 post tarantula in the dunnie with timestamp to prove it, cunts

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:07:15 2017 No.8926547

>>8926513

>citation fucking needed

The entire Scientific revolution. Done.

Capitalism breeds improvement through competition. Result: technological improvement.

Communism is a parasitic infection that kills the intelligent members of its society and then starves and subjugates the stupid ones. Result: millions of deaths in Lenin and Stalin's early 20th century Russia, millions of deaths in mid 20th century Maoist China and every other failed implementation of the same failed ideology.

The damage, the tremendous damage inflicted by Communism is still extremely obvious today. Why do you think people are shitting in the middle of supermarkets in China? Their entire culture was eradicated under Mao. Why do you think average Ruskies are so drunk, horrifically stupid and degenerate all the time?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:07:43 2017 No.8926548 >>8926533 Yeah... that's my id for my post..

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:08:03 2017 No.8926550 File: 57 KB, 309x433, 1478549381965.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926536 I'm natsoc not a commie.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:08:12 2017 No.8926551 >>8926531 >>8926536 >neoliberalist >communist Yeah, I choose none.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:08:34 2017 No.8926552 >>8926544 Here's the proof. >>8926543 >>8926533 And the only spider in my bathroom is a daddy-long-legs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:08:40 2017 No.8926553 >>8926550 Not much difference between the two.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:09:27 2017 No.8926556
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>/pol/ raids /lit/
>their flimsy propaganda get deconstructed immediately by educated masters
>their feeble arguments refuted by polemical experts
>their puny low-brow taste unveiled and scoffed at
>they leave humiliated and a little bit more leftist

Everytime
When will they learn?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:09:42 2017 No.8926558 >>8926551 LE NEOLIBERAL BOOGEYMAN PIG WITH A TOP HAT HOLDING BAGS OF MONEY.JPG

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:10:24 2017 No.8926563
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>>8926540
>I don't like living under capitalism
>Literally the only system that has ever done anything meaningful for the working class, and is rapidly reducing poverty, AND is DECREASING income inequality

my oh my

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:10:30 2017 No.8926564 >>8926551 The smart choice is market socialism with worker-owned and democratically managed enterprises.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:10:45 2017 No.8926566

>>8926540
Nah, you're a joke. You can't even refute it. Please list the technological achievements of Communism.

>>8926531
Not an argument. I don't buy a new 'x' every year, and attempting to pigeonhole someone on something like that is classic lefty deflection. Do you even know how to change your own oil?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:11:06 2017 No.8926569 >>8926558 What?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:11:20 2017 No.8926571 >>8926551 A form of moderated capitalism with some socialist features (aka natsoc) is the way forward

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:11:27 2017 No.8926572 >>8926556 >>their flimsy propaganda get deconstructed immediately by educated masters Literally the only argument: DUDE NEVER BEEN TRIED LMAO

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:11:30 2017 No.8926573 >>8926558 >neo-liberal boogieman >an accurate straightforward socio-political description of the dominant ideological standard of western society >boogieman What are you smoking son

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:11:58 2017 No.8926578

>>8926556
>>their flimsy propaganda get deconstructed immediately by educated masters
>>their feeble arguments refuted by polemical experts
>>their puny low-brow taste unveiled and scoffed at
>>they leave humiliated and a little bit more leftist

this is what these incels unironically believe

LOL! I humbly tip my fedora to you good sir! XDD

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:12:30 2017 No.8926581 >>8926566 Spacial exploration

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:12:59 2017 No.8926583

>>8926573
>>an accurate straightforward socio-political description of the dominant ideological standard of western society

A derogatory term that is used to attack anything remotely pro-market by leftists who have never picked up an econ book in their life

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:13:05 2017 No.8926584 File: 111 KB, 1200x1200, MTE5NDg0MDU0OTAxMjYxODM5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926572 >>8926578 I love this noise, like steam from a kettle. Supper is ready

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:13:16 2017 No.8926586

>>8926569
HE IS HOLDING BAGS OF MONEY SO HE IS EVIL

>>8926573
Boogeyman because it is certainly not free market capitalism which is at the cause of the social degeneration of western civilization, but rather the slave like mentality of ideological leftists like yourself who seek to undermine the successful and destroy the good out of sheer hatred and jealousy of your superiors.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:13:36 2017 No.8926588 File: 729 KB, 1014x650, 1481230977514.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:14:02 2017 No.8926590 >>8926581 Sorry, the soviet union was state capitalism. Feel free to try again

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:14:07 2017 No.8926592 >>8926556 You have to construct your own fantasies to pretend you have any semblance of an argument. Pigeon shitting on the chessboard declaring itself the winner. As if we haven't seen this a million times before.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:14:42 2017 No.8926596 >>8926553 Not exactly. For example: Natsoc believes in private ownership and that everybody should live with their own cultural group, communism is quite the opposite in both aspects.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:15:22 2017 No.8926600 >>8926586 >economic inequality isn't the cause of social problems, but my conspiracy of moral degradation This is why everyone should be forced to read Marx at gunpoint, Jesus Christ. Why do both Conservatives and Liberals buy into this bullshit?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:15:26 2017 No.8926601 >>8926588 >Dude why won't our revolution work >Why are people who are ideologically opposed and under genuine threat fighting back

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:15:40 2017 No.8926603 >>8926586 >it is certainly not the economic system at the basis of all productive activity in our society that has produced the cultural conditions we now exist in Interesting argument

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:16:13 2017 No.8926607 >>8926566 LED lights, parts of the developments of the LASER and MASER, limit state design, PID controllers, advanced rocketry, large scale diamond mining processes in subzero temperatures.... I'm sure more will come back to me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:16:28 2017 No.8926608 >>8926583 the guy literally said he was a proud neoliberal >>8926586 what social degeneration? >>8926590 Yes, kinda. What communist regime were you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:17:05 2017 No.8926611 File: 31 KB, 480x274, pol = cucks.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] /pol/yps, when will you ever learn?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:17:05 2017 No.8926612 >>8926600 >This is why everyone should be forced to read Marx at gunpoint, Jesus Christ Marx is literally irrelevant to economics, but of course /lit/ would by into his ideological bullshit because, again, pseudo intellectuals

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:17:06 2017 No.8926613

>>8926588
A jewish communist, how unoriginal.

>>8926596
Natsoc doesn't really have an economic ideology, sorry m8. The Rohm faction of the Nazi party was indeed anti private property and in favor of the collectivization of the economy, but Hitler decided to form an alliance with big industry instead.

My point is National socialism was too short lived to have had a definite economic ideology. Its economic policy was based on immediate concerns, not ideology.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:17:13 2017 No.8926614 >>8926581 Soviet Union was in fact state capitalism. Secondarily where do you think those rockets came from in the first place? Not that your example holds any water, but which country birthed rocketry? I'll give you a hint, it was Nazi Germany

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:17:22 2017 No.8926615 >>8926590 Soviet Union couldn't even into state capitalism when they tried under Gorbachev or after their collapse.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:18:08 2017 No.8926618 >>8926608 Yeah I did, it's ironic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:18:13 2017 No.8926620 >>8926556 lol keep ""deconstructing"" arguments or whatever the fuck you smug commie faggots think you're doing while we get bitches because we're not litcels, virgin

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:18:35 2017 No.8926623

>>8926607

>LED lights, parts of the developments of the LASER and MASER, limit state design, PID controllers, advanced rocketry, large scale diamond mining processes in subzero temperatures.... I'm sure more will come back to me.

Are you talking about the USSR? That was certainly state capitalism and not Communism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:19:30 2017 No.8926626 >>8926614 Rocketry is Chinese bro.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:19:33 2017 No.8926627

Right wing ideology:
>MUH JEWS
>MUH INSIDIOUS CULTURAL MARXIST CONSPIRACY
>MUH INFERIOR RACES

Left-wing ideology:
> In the social production of their existence, men inevitably enter into definite relations, which are independent of their will, namely relations of production appropriate to a given stage in the development of their material forces of production. The totality of these relations of production constitutes the economic structure of society, the real foundation, on which arises a legal and political superstructure and to which correspond definite forms of social consciousness. The mode of production of material life conditions the general process of social, political and intellectual life. It is not the consciousness of men that determines their existence, but their social existence that determines their consciousness. At a certain stage of development, the material productive forces of society come into conflict with the existing relations of production or – this merely expresses the same thing in legal terms – with the property relations within the framework of which they have operated hitherto. From forms of development of the productive forces these relations turn into their fetters. Then begins an era of social revolution. The changes in the economic foundation lead sooner or later to the transformation of the whole immense superstructure.

In studying such transformations it is always necessary to distinguish between the material transformation of the economic conditions of production, which can be determined with the precision of natural science, and the legal, political, religious, artistic or philosophic – in short, ideological forms in which men become conscious of this conflict and fight it out. Just as one does not judge an individual by what he thinks about himself, so one cannot judge such a period of transformation by its consciousness, but, on the contrary, this consciousness must be explained from the contradictions of material life, from the conflict existing between the social forces of production and the relations of production. No social order is ever destroyed before all the productive forces for which it is sufficient have been developed, and new superior relations of production never replace older ones before the material conditions for their existence have matured within the framework of the old society.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:19:48 2017 No.8926629 >>8926620 /lit/ is without a doubt the only board that could compete with /r9k/. It's full of leftists so you know they're poor NEET mentally ill scum as well

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:20:39 2017 No.8926631 >>8926620 Hmm interesting, you seem to regard your political association as intrinsically associated with your status as a sexually active heterosexual. How would you describe your mother may I ask?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:20:51 2017 No.8926632 >>8926627 Nice Strawman

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:21:42 2017 No.8926637

>>8926623
Again, they tried state capitalism under Gorbachev at the end and screwed up. Most of those things are from early on in the USSR, many even when there was still a balance of anarcho- and soviet communists.

Repeating your stupidity won't make it true either.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:21:58 2017 No.8926640

>>8926600
>>economic inequality isn't the cause of social problems
It's not, stop living in your fantasy bubble.

North Korea is not a good society despite having lower economic inequality than the USA.

>>8926603
Not really, I know you Marxtards believe in that whole "historical materialism" theology but economic conditions are not the cause of every single thing in the world.

>>8926608
>what social degeneration?
General decadence. In the private life: rise of amorality (or rather moral relativism), sexual promiscuity, breakup of the family, increase in the use of narcotics, increase in crime, increase in laziness, increase in general apathy, decrease of the sense of personal honor.

In society as a whole: decline of the arts (most obvious), economic and social problems due to the compound effects of the degeneration in the private spheres of life (a good example is the destruction of black communities in America after the 1960s).

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:21:58 2017 No.8926641

>>8926613
But that system that resulted from the colaboration of the state with the owners to grant some minimum living standards to the workers and produce more or less depending on the demand was a brilliant system. Collectivize the economy is almost impossible without a violence and more nowadays with the big corporations.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:22:29 2017 No.8926644 >>8926611 >posted from his mom's basement

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:23:04 2017 No.8926647

Oh whoops who dropped these quotes from 3 Phd economists, two of which are Nobel Laureates

"Despite the massive intellectual feat that Marx's Capital represents, the Marxian contribution to economics can be readily summarized as virtually zero. Professional economics as it exists today reflects no indication that Karl Marx ever existed. This neither denies nor denigrates Capital as an intellectual achievement, and perhaps in its way the culmination of classical economics. But the development of modern economics had simply ignored Marx. Even economists who are Marxists typically utilize a set of analytical tools to which Marx contributed nothing, and have recourse to Marx only for ideological, political, or historical purposes."
-Thomas Sowell

"Marx was an important and influential thinker, and Marxism has been a doctrine with intellectual and practical influence. The fact is, however, that most serious English-speaking economists regard Marxist economics as an irrelevant dead end"
-Robert Solow

"Economists working in the Marxian-Sraffian tradition represent a small minority of modern economists, and that their writings have virtually no impact upon the professional work of most economists in major English-language universities"
-George Stigler

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:23:40 2017 No.8926648 >>8926626 There's fireworks and then there's V2s.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:24:09 2017 No.8926653

>>8926627
Yet the funny thing is that the right wing positions you quoted have more facts to back them up than the long windy leftist quote you posted.

That is essentially leftism: complete fantasies dressed up in fancy wording to cover up their inanity allowing gullible moronic subhumans like yourself to gobble them up like the nigger dicks your gf gobbles up while you masturbate to pedophile chinese cartoons in your cuckshed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:24:31 2017 No.8926654 >>8926620 I guess those guys in Bangladesh with 10 kids have found the best political idiology.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:24:59 2017 No.8926657 >>8926647 Yeah, it's almost like people who have a private interest in the continuation of the current economic relations, wouldn't fundamentally criticize those relations.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:25:13 2017 No.8926661 >>8926631 It's simple really, conservative men are manlier and get more pussy than some latte-sipping pseudo-intellectual queer like yourself. Keep reading french commie faggots in your corner while I fuck your crush, litcel.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:25:44 2017 No.8926663

>>8926641
Not, it wasn't really brilliant. It was basically like the New Deal, a lot of borrowing of money to fund public programs. Short term returns but economic problems in the long term. These economic problems didn't have time to manifest themselves because the war broke out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:26:23 2017 No.8926667 File: 571 KB, 1600x1131, 1378753471679.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926647 See "Appeal to authority"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:26:27 2017 No.8926669 File: 176 KB, 947x637, adhom.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926629 Ceci n'est pas un argument.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:26:48 2017 No.8926670 >>8926657 >HE'S LITERALLY RESORTED TO MAKING CLIMATE CONSPIRACY ARGUMENTS Oh, is that so? The (((experts))) getting in the way of glorious father Marx, are they? Leftists crack me up

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:26:49 2017 No.8926671 >>8926648 And there's V2s and then there's Soyuz. In fact multistage rocketry was invented in the USSR in 1929. V2 was made 15 years later.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:27:17 2017 No.8926676 File: 299 KB, 980x742, 1483534110146.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is porky apologetics so bad? Everyone with a hint of common decency realizes the deplorable exploitation in free market capitalism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:27:30 2017 No.8926678 >>8926657 No, it's almost like people who have a private interest in the discontinuation of current economic relations, depend on the constant criticism of those relations.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:27:32 2017 No.8926679 File: 1.06 MB, 2670x1845, pol-goes-lit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Contribution to epic thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:27:51 2017 No.8926682 >>8926667 >>8926669 This must be satire. Or, alternatively, your first day on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:28:02 2017 No.8926683 >>8926667 >I don't care about actually learning anything, I just want to win the argument >haha /lit/ is the intellectual board though hahaha You're welcome to prove them wrong

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:28:08 2017 No.8926684 >>8926657 IT'S A CONSPIRACY PIGS WEARING TOP HATS AND HOLDING BAGS OF MONEY ARE BRAINWASHING ECONOMICS PROFESSORS THE UNVARNISHED TRUTH ARE THE DELUSIONS OF A MENTALLY ILL KIKE WHO LIVED 150 YEARS AGO

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:28:35 2017 No.8926686 >>8926661 I can't follow now, you want a strong family unit but with polyamory?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:29:08 2017 No.8926689 File: 31 KB, 978x638, nazi-gdp-inflation.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926663 Not really, even inflation went down.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:29:16 2017 No.8926691 >>8926657 HAHAHAHA HOLY FUCK /lit/ BTFO ONCE AGAIN

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:29:20 2017 No.8926692 lmao at the /pol/ backlash in this thread

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:29:25 2017 No.8926693 Thank god for the bump limit, so my creation can finally die.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:29:54 2017 No.8926695 >>8926683 You're the one making the claim, lad

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:30:12 2017 No.8926696 >>8926676 Because the people preaching it are either porkies themselves, or think they'll be treated better if they repeat the lines they're fed by same. It's all vested interests. >>8926684 This post has given you out.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:30:15 2017 No.8926697

>>8926637

They screwed *everything* up. All you need to do to look at the "success" of communism is look at the outcomes. They deprecated all forms of technology they encountered and killed off all intelligent members of their societies.

This is what you get:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFifWw6DGz8

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:30:18 2017 No.8926699 >>8926661 So you're essentially your beliefs are important to you not on the basis of any critical examination of society but rather your association of them with a prescribed notion of masculine value? Interesting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:30:28 2017 No.8926702 >>8926627 A lot of words and very little said. Typical leftist "intellectuals". The man in pic related was infinitely smarter than any of the fairies here and he brutally "deconstructed" leftists and their sick ideology .

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:30:51 2017 No.8926704 >>8926679 too bad your board can not or will not read, just watch any literature thread on /pol/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:30:56 2017 No.8926705 >>8926692 Every time they come here at least one tries to start with the Greeks. All will be assimilated or gb2/pol/ trying.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:31:31 2017 No.8926709 File: 57 KB, 287x425, kacz_027.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926702 wups Unabomber was /ourguy/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:31:32 2017 No.8926710 >>8926695 I can't prove a negative you retard. The burden of proof is on you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:32:19 2017 No.8926717 >>8926679 Is this satire?

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:32:27 2017 No.8926718

>tfw redditor raiders with the support of the native marxists elements will take this entire thread as evidence that /pol/ is brigading and is the agressive part, even tough redditors started it.
Talking shit about /pol/ summons /pol/, this is to be expected as they are one of the largest boards on this site, has sympathisers on every board and are not cucks who turn the other cheek.
>inb4 redditor is triggered over cuck

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:32:34 2017 No.8926719

>>8926676
>deplorable exploitation

Bob: - Hello, I am Bob.
Sam: - Hello, I am Sam.
Bob: - Hey Sam, I need to repair my roof, but I don't have the time nor the expertise to do it. I am willing to pay you in exchange for a bit of your time and energy to fix my roof.
Sam: - That's a deal Bob

>A transgender transmuslim purple-haired dyke wearing a che guevara tshirt sipping a starbucks latte enters the scene

Xer: - STOP EXPLOITING HIM

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:33:15 2017 No.8926723 >>8926696 Friendly reminder that capitalism is the only system that has ever helped the working class>>8926563

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:33:33 2017 No.8926724

>>8926697
The average Russian is considerably smarter than the average American. They have control over their vast natural resources (and by extension much of the world mineral markets from oil to diamond to gold).

Remember that the US uses their rockets and their refined uranium.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:33:33 2017 No.8926725 Damn 4chan is full of children. I'm going back to r/books. Also like, subscribe and comment to my bookhaul videos guise! It's BlackCockLover666 on YouTube ^_^

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:33:52 2017 No.8926726 >>8926718 >literally a link to a /pol/ thread calling for a raid >I'll claim its reddits fault from nowhere

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:34:18 2017 No.8926729 >>8926719 this

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:34:38 2017 No.8926732 >>8926689 They had a huge debt. >>8926696 Gosh, I'm exposed. I'm literally wearing a top hat right now, btw.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:34:52 2017 No.8926733 >>8926699 >critical examination of society None of that is important compared to pragmatic examination of outcomes. Theoretical analysis is always rooted in fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:34:53 2017 No.8926734 File: 309 KB, 960x886, 1478833430790.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8925386 >I'm a commie color me surprised! Tell me /lit/, when Jamal fucks your wife do you jerk off next to them or do they make you go in the closet?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:34:57 2017 No.8926736 >>8926671 I know Commies were ignorant tards but I didn't expect it at THIS level. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrad_Haas

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:35:06 2017 No.8926738

literature fags are the worst

you literally cant commune about "books" as if thats a topic unless you read a bunch of degenerate shit and need other degenerates to talk to about it

real men read profitable books in their free time and dont need a bunch of faggots to tell them what to think about it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:35:10 2017 No.8926739 >>8924905 ITT: cucks, snobs and pseudo intelectuals

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:35:18 2017 No.8926740 >>8926647 >Professional economics >most serious English-speaking (lol) economists >most economists in major English-language universities Bandwagon+appeal to authority This shouldn't be hard to see

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:35:20 2017 No.8926742

Oh whoops who dropped these quotes from 3 Phd economists, two of which are Nobel Laureates

"Despite the massive intellectual feat that Marx's Capital represents, the Marxian contribution to economics can be readily summarized as virtually zero. Professional economics as it exists today reflects no indication that Karl Marx ever existed. This neither denies nor denigrates Capital as an intellectual achievement, and perhaps in its way the culmination of classical economics. But the development of modern economics had simply ignored Marx. Even economists who are Marxists typically utilize a set of analytical tools to which Marx contributed nothing, and have recourse to Marx only for ideological, political, or historical purposes."
-Thomas Sowell

"Marx was an important and influential thinker, and Marxism has been a doctrine with intellectual and practical influence. The fact is, however, that most serious English-speaking economists regard Marxist economics as an irrelevant dead end"
-Robert Solow

"Economists working in the Marxian-Sraffian tradition represent a small minority of modern economists, and that their writings have virtually no impact upon the professional work of most economists in major English-language universities"
-George Stigler

Just a friendly repost of the comment that silenced the commies

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:36:05 2017 No.8926748

>neo-nazis keep telling you to read economics
>decide to do so
>become a leftist when you realize the poverty of right-wing economists

Thanks /pol/, I wouldn't be a real leftist without you, I used to be a cucked liberal who actually believed in fixing capitalism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:36:16 2017 No.8926749 >>8925632 Montaigne is the best friend I never met...what I would give to buy that man a coffee and shoot the shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:36:24 2017 No.8926751 File: 1.14 MB, 1059x1420, you1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926611 Damn, made me think...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:36:29 2017 No.8926755 File: 42 KB, 484x252, weatherchanges.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926667 Why would you denounce the cornerstone of leftist arguments, the appeal to authority?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:36:42 2017 No.8926758 >>8926719 Direct exchange of commodities is not what Capitalism is to Marx you idiot. In this example it would be instead of Bob paying Sam to fix his roof, Bob pays Piggy who gives a fraction of the money to Sam to fix the roof.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:36:57 2017 No.8926759 >>8926736 Italians invented basically everything then t. Da Vinci.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:37:24 2017 No.8926762 File: 11 KB, 320x231, buff.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >and this is our son's room, he's a real "literature buff"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:37:25 2017 No.8926763 >>8926748 >I used to be a cucked liberal who actually believed in fixing capitalism. >fixing >capitalism You were already a commie at heart.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:38:06 2017 No.8926768 File: 2.33 MB, 480x480, 1474559473629.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926671 >>8926657 god damn. All of you faggots are just pretentious dweebs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:38:21 2017 No.8926770 >>8926738 Agreed. They call /pol/ pathetic and then laugh at them to feel better about their miserable lonely lives. They all seem to think they're "supreme" because they read the incoherent ramblings of afart fetishist.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:38:54 2017 No.8926773 >>8926732 Debt didn't matter, German economy was fully independent already. If they needed some raw material they traded it for industrial goods with nations like Brazil or Spain. It worked just fine, he laughed at kike's face and paid the price.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:39:14 2017 No.8926779 >>8926768 At least our political philosophy isn't based on racism and evil hebrew conspiracies

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:39:18 2017 No.8926780 >>8924905 Lol you guys are fucking virgin sperglords 1488

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:39:20 2017 No.8926781 File: 17 KB, 317x231, 2144132.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926762 >and this our son's room, he's a white supremacist on the internet

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:39:22 2017 No.8926782 >>8926751 Look up Peace and Reconciliation and go cuck crazy you nutty fool.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:39:26 2017 No.8926783 Can we just all agree we have different views but respect them?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:39:30 2017 No.8926784 >>8926768 See >>8926669

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:39:45 2017 No.8926786
File: 37 KB, 440x476, litfag.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>this thread is a gold mine

LOL, talk about gold mines - this thread is like the 1849 of pretense.

Thanks guys, I thought I was going to be bored today, but I've now managed to fill some of my morning imagining retards in turtlenecks rattling off lists of authors that will make them seem intelligent.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:39:57 2017 No.8926787 >>8926627 Wtf! Thank you for Correcting My Record! Time to read Adorno..

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:39:59 2017 No.8926789 >>8926724 Average Russian citizen isn't refining uranium. And I'm not calling your average American a genius by any stretch. Average Russians: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=russian+dating+pics&t=ffsb&iar=images&iax=1&ia=images

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:39:59 2017 No.8926790 >>8926740 >Appeal to authority >See >>8926683

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:40:25 2017 No.8926792 >>8926773 They had to make clothes from stinging nettles.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:40:28 2017 No.8926794 >>8926786 >t. hasn't read a book since high school

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:40:32 2017 No.8926797

>>8926758
>Direct exchange of commodities is not what Capitalism is to Marx you idiot.
Yes it is you fucking faggot. Marxism is anti free market. Marx had a huge disdain for the self-employed petty bourgeois.

>In this example it would be instead of Bob paying Sam to fix his roof, Bob pays Piggy who gives a fraction of the money to Sam to fix the roof.
There is literally nothing wrong with that as long as Bob, Sam and Piggy are voluntarily engaged in this transaction.

In fact it might be much more efficient, as Sam thus doesn't have to waste time looking for contracts, as Piggy takes on that part of the job in exchange for a cut of the profits, meaning more contracts for Sam and thus more profits, and more roofs fixed increasing the general welfare of the population.

It's as if there was an invisible hand guiding commercial activity which directed it to increase general prosperity.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:40:34 2017 No.8926798 >>8926779 while being a cuck to the hebrews praise (((kek)))

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:40:45 2017 No.8926802 >2016 >reading the paperback jew

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:41:02 2017 No.8926806 >>8926783 Commies deserve death

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:41:07 2017 No.8926807 >>8926779 > racism and evil hebrew conspiracies Look how much Jewish propaganda you have already internalized

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:41:27 2017 No.8926811 File: 1.96 MB, 286x400, 1474646102802.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926611 wow...that really fired up some neurons abdul! >>8926779 I don't believe in a heeb conspiracy but there's nothing wrong with racism. >>8926784 good job xir

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:41:36 2017 No.8926812 >>8926779 fucking burn you autistic kike

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:41:44 2017 No.8926813 >>8925768 >you should read more books on hiw to be a professional cuck I frequent /pol/ but you're especially cancerous. This is too much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:41:44 2017 No.8926814 >>8926773 >Debt didn't matter, I'm sure it mattered to the debtors. When a person fails to pay his debts, debtors don't give him loans anymore.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:42:05 2017 No.8926818 >>8926797 >It's as if there was an invisible hand guiding commercial activity which directed it to increase general prosperity. I don't understand economics: the post

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:42:17 2017 No.8926820 >>8926751 What would you do? Piss on your daughter? This is the wonder of /pol/ family values...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:42:17 2017 No.8926821 File: 399 KB, 651x424, partizanke.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926783 No, fascists need to be beaten down at every opportunity.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:43:05 2017 No.8926830

>>8926783

No, tolerance is not a virtue. Tolerance leads to mass rape of German citizens in Cologne.

We cannot respect your shit-heap views and they are not tolerated. Because they have real outcomes. Like millions of people dying and entire continents being overrun by barbarians.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:43:07 2017 No.8926831 >>8926779 gee i wonder who's behind this post

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:43:10 2017 No.8926832 >>8926818 Says the guy who literally believes in """Marxist economics""". The lack of self-awareness is amazing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:43:18 2017 No.8926835 >>8926821 you have no idea what true fascism is lol you melodramatic ass pirate

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:43:29 2017 No.8926837 >>8926667 > he does not know about frogposting > and shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:43:39 2017 No.8926839 >>8926789 >he thinks you have be able to refine uranium to be smarter than the average American Oh wow.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:44:24 2017 No.8926846 >>8924905 >Thinking this isn't bait There is a decent liklyhood that, you made this post yourself on /pol/ to begin with, but if you don't and you believe it is genuin, please leave /lit/ for our and your own good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:44:26 2017 No.8926847 >>8926790 I don't want to prove them wrong. They're right. I study Finance, I know they are. Capitalism is indeed the most commonly followed stance in universities. Now, how does that make it better than communism or socialism or any other idiology?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:44:32 2017 No.8926851 >>8926821 >fascists need to be beaten Literally in the same breath advocating fascism Liberals everyone

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:44:39 2017 No.8926852 >>8926814 But since the system was already established and the German economy self sufficient they didn't need to take more loans.

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:44:40 2017 No.8926853

>>8926797
>Yes it is you fucking faggot.

Duh if you say something with enough aggression it makes it true. Capitalism as Marx describes it is a specific mode of production that rose to prominance in the 19th century not a synonym for market exchange.
It is predicated on the division between a class of people who have possession of the means of production (Capital- Hence Capital-ism) and those who must rely on recieving wages from them in turn.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:44:52 2017 No.8926855 >>8926830 And where are you from?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:45:16 2017 No.8926857 >>8925386 Thomas Carlyle

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:45:26 2017 No.8926858 File: 32 KB, 690x461, 1455289437189.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8926818 Communism has never worked and will never work. > inb4 muh special brand of gommunism

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:46:10 2017 No.8926863

>>8926847
Well I can distinguish two reasons.

Firstly, it works. Secondly, the study of economics is based on the scientific method. The study of "marxism" is based on the ramblings of an unemployed kike who lived 150 years ago and who was so dumb he couldn't even teach himself calculus.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:46:30 2017 No.8926864 >>8925730 Foucault's Pendulum But it's also about Italian anarco-communism

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:46:32 2017 No.8926865 >>8926858 >if I keep repeating something to myself it makes it true Literally cult mentallity

Anonymous Wed Jan 4 13:46:46 2017 No.8926867
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>>8926762

>MOOOOOOOOOOM!! I TOLD YOU NOT TO BOTHER ME WHILE IM ANALYZING THE WESTERN CIVILIZATION'S CLASS STRUGGLES THROUGH THE LENS OF DIALECTICAL MATERIALISM SO I CAN IMPRESS MY CRUSH!!!

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