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Go to goodreads and post a 1 star review of your favorite book

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>> No.8917357

ok let me just guess what book that is

*closes tab*

>> No.8917621

>>8917323
>favorite book

>>>>r/YA/

>> No.8917628

>>8917323
Why?

>> No.8917632

>>8917323
Post her channel please

>> No.8917649

>>8917323
Is this her reviewing Lolita?

>> No.8917663

Why would I post a 1 star review if it's my favourite?

>> No.8917681

your favorite book is trash

>> No.8917687

>>8917663
this is a woman/'normie' hate thread

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>>8917687
The reviewer isn't helping.
It's barely a review, anyway.

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>>8917687
The reviewer isn't helping.
It's barely a review, anyway.

>> No.8917952

My favourite books are usually modernist works so all the 1 star reviews are people complaining that nothing happens

>> No.8917957

>>8917856
>Having personalized shelves on goodreads for books you hate

Oh to be that autistic
>>8917323
>psico man
How do they not develop some command of the English language when they read as much trash as they xo

>> No.8917960

>>8917687
life is a woman/normie hate thread, when you have a soul

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>>8917323

>ywn fuck more charming malapropisms out of Ana

>> No.8917971

>Stream of consciousness writing is fucking crap, for which I have absolutely no patience. I hate Freud. I hate his concept of "consciousness", so "stream of consciousness" bullshit based on that would be something I'd hate, too. Long sentences, barely comprehensible.

>> No.8917984

>>8917957
This is what happens when people read books for Ideology points instead of enjoyment.

As for the second quote, she's a beaner, cut her some slack.
t. beaner

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I really wonder what books she likes Mishima-Chan for if this one's disgusting and sickening. Are those not his middle names?

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>Not only did I disagree with Hobbes' conclusions, I find his assumptions (his arguments based entirely in Christian perspective) essentially worthless. The only value this tract served to me is to "know thy enemy". This is a classic example of mental circus tricks being used to justify the march of Christian dominance across the globe. I can't think of any written text that I despise more, except perhaps Mein Kempf.

>Hobbes is my least favorite philosopher. He embodies everything I despise in Western thought. If I met Hobbes in the street I would flash him my tits and then slap him in the face and call him a pervert.

>Mein Kempf

>> No.8918037

>Let me explain why I'd recommend this book to everyone: Plato is stupid.

>Seriously.

>And it's important that you all understand that Western society is based on the fallacy-ridden ramblings of an idiot. Read this, understand that he is not joking, and understand that Plato is well and truly fucked in the head.

>Every single one of his works goes like this:

>SOCRATES: "Hello, I will now prove this theory!"
>STRAWMAN: "Surely you are wrong!"
>SOCRATES: "Nonsense. Listen, Strawman: can we agree to the following wildly presumptive statement that is at the core of my argument?" {Insert wildly presumptive statement here— this time, it's "There is such a thing as Perfect Justice" and "There is such a thing as Perfect Beauty", among others.}
>STRAWMAN: "Yes, of course, that is obvious."
>SOCRATES: "Good! Now that we have conveniently skipped over all of the logically-necessary debate, because my off-the-wall crazy ideas surely wouldn't stand up to any real scrutiny, let me tell you an intolerably long hypothetical story."
>{Insert intolerably long hypothetical story.}
>STRAWMAN: "My God, Socrates! You have completely won me over! That is brilliant! Your woefully simplistic theories should become the basis for future Western civilization! That would be great!"
>SOCRATES: "Ha ha! My simple rhetorical device has duped them all! I will now go celebrate by drinking hemlock and scoring a cameo in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure!"

>The moral of the story is: Plato is stupid.

>> No.8918239

>>8918037
this has to be autism

>> No.8918287
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hmmm

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>>8918037
>"I couldn't understand the deepest thinker Western civilization ever had and the method he uses, hence he is an idiot"

>> No.8918379

>>8918355
What is this, sounds right up my alley.

>> No.8918390

>>8917971
The Death of Virgil? Ulysses is more likely though.

>> No.8918401

>>8918315
She looks like a poor man's Elisabeth Moss.

>> No.8918411

>>8918379
Probably a better advertisement that the positive reviews. It's At Swim, Two Boys.

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>someone was able to read Book of the New Sun and conclude that the book was trying to say "torturers are the good guys"

>> No.8918416

>>8918379
Same.

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>>8918417

>> No.8918465

>>8918287
>reading a play is not how it should be consumed
>instead, you should watch the play and all the dialogue should be "translations"

>> No.8918491
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not my favorite book but a damn good one

>> No.8918504

>>8918390
To the Lighthouse

>> No.8918526

>>8918504
Looks like I was giving them too much credit.

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2edgy4Proust

>> No.8918577

>>8918037
based
imagine them with their wikipedia list of fallacies open yelling at their books

>> No.8918579

>>8918572
so if she hate proust but loved tolstoy should i avoid tolstoy? cuz proust goes hard

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>>8917323
>I regreat picking up this book to read
>I regreat
wut

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>>8918037

>> No.8918622

>>8918618
in ur heart u kno its tru tho

>> No.8918624
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>Blood Meridian is a story about … ummmmm … urrrrrrrr … I don’t know what this story is about.

>> No.8918639

>>8918624
sold! i'm def reading BM this year!

>> No.8919698

>>8918624
>people who love looking down their noses at othes and saying "you dont get it" will absolutely love this
>book is generally liked by lit
interesting

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>>8917960
this desu

>> No.8919717

>>8918572
>Anne Karenine

>> No.8919719

>>8918009
holy goodness fuck that virtue signalling
>I HATE NAZIS AND CHRISTIANS I'M PROGRESSIVE

Why do these people do this to themselves? Are they happier for it?

>> No.8919721

>>8918622
nah

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>> No.8919728

>>8918003
>mishima

>>>>>/r/weaboos

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>> No.8919733

>>8918287
>forced to read it for class
>read the text online, specifically mentions they didnt have any annotations/notes
>Elizabethan English is hard :(
>doesnt use imagination in lieu of theatric performance
>I hate Shakespeare

Highschooler Reads Macbeth Starter Pack

>> No.8919754

>>8918414
The amount of "muh womanz" reviews on the BOTNS goodreads page is infuriating.

>> No.8919758
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>What's weird and very unfortunate is that I did not enjoy reading this book ...

>I think it was partly due to the fact that I had such high expectation for it since I have great interest in Greek literature... but this book was just too impersonal...

>I mean I liked - at times - a few characters (gods and mortals) but most times; I just hated everyone and they all seemed inhumane and I felt like they didn't deserve most of the honor and glory they've come to acquire...

>Once more; this is just my point of view and feelings.

>I haven't been this disappointed from a book in a while and it sucks. I don't know if I'll ever pick up the Odyssey.... not anytime soon that's for sure.

>Since I couldn't even push through this text. I forced myself to read it (it is a required reading for my literature class in university) but my thoughts were more interesting than the book. That's when I know I've lost complete interest and involvement towards a book.

>I know the whole point of this 'retailing' was the repetition of actions and what not but ohhhhhhhhhh my just get on with it. So he spoke this and so he spoke that. So he killed him and so killed him and another him.

>Also, there was way too many names that weren't that 'key' to the story but literally did i great job at distracting me further... I mean yeah sure the Trojans and the Achaians are both equally big armies. Once again, please get over it. I'm also aware that there's a glossary with all the names but let's be honest no one refers to it frequently (because it'd be constantly) and names still remained confusing even after referral.

>Sigh. I liked the plot but it was just pretty simple: men at war, passing around 'booties' as prize, and having the Gods involved in all of their businesses.... No peace. Just chaos. And lots of deaths.

>This review is so scrambled but hey scrambled eggs are better than none...?

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>>8919726
actually made me mad

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>> No.8919799

>>8918414
To be fair. BotNS is an extremely geeky book that requires you read for more than half it's length before having any real payoff.

>> No.8919807

>>8919778
He's right you know

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> I tried sixty-nine pages for the purposes of the Group Read (a Group Read of Gravity’s Rainbow on Goodreads—a GR of GR on GR, or GR3) but tentatively closed the novel thenceforth. My first thought (I am an intellectual) was WTF?! This has over twenty five-star ratings on the first page?! Then I had to concede I simply don’t like Pynchon’s writing style, period. William raised this point in his review of The Tunnel—you’re helpless against an author’s crystalline prose if you simply can’t stomach his particular talent for arranging squiggles. My problem with the first sixty-nine pages? I found his style awkwardly literary, stuffed with showboating passages of verbose insulation (as though caulking the enormous fucker)—I felt the style basically worked against the efficiency of the sentences, i.e. he seems to be taking unnecessarily circuitous routes to describe whatever acronym-riddled antics were happening (as far as I could make out, sub-Catch-22 shenanigans mixed with equally dated black humour) so the reader has to unpeel each little Pychonian prawn as though inside lies some twinkling epithet of significance. Also, the point of view shifts from the ice-cold third-person narrator to the internal states of the dozen or so interchangeable characters with equally stupid names for no particular reason I could fathom for those sixty-nine pages. I was impressed by various passages but I couldn’t commit to another 834 pages . . . there simply wasn’t enough cohering for me in the style, and books that warm up around page 467 are not my bag. I tried The Crying of Lot 49 earlier this year and found the dude such a postmodern relic. I mean, Foster Wallace can do this standing on his head but also offers a devastating emotional wallop into the bargain. William H. Gass writes funnier bawdy limericks and songs too. Anyway. I’m sure he’s brilliant but I really don’t care, I have other boyfriends.

>> No.8919878

>Worst book I've ever had the misfortune to pick up. My dad warned me that this book was lower on the evolution scale than a wet turd, but I thought I'd try it anyway. I hated this with every fibre in my body and with any luck the book will just crawl away and die.

>The characters were obnoxious, moronic gits who I hoped would all die at the hands of Jason Vorhees very soon and there was no way I'd ever connect with that idiot who was meant to be our beloved hero. The dialogue was incomprehensible crap that was pointless and baffling, and you are left wondering what the hell they are gibbering about and why each scene was even written! What the hell is the purpose in talking complete shite page after page with no meaning or sense to it??? I couldn't see the point in the story at all and it was with a sense of joy that I threw the book into the bag marked 'charity shop'-then I found myself wondering what the poor charity shop had ever done to me to deserve receiving that book...How the hell this ever became a classic is a complete mystery to me. A classic piece of excrement perhaps.

>I know plenty people love it and I'm happy for you, but it's just not for me I'm afraid!

Catch-22

>> No.8919884

>>8919798
What is it about Heart of Darkness that triggers women so hard?

>> No.8919907

>I have to admit to cheating a bit on this one. I only read about 30 pages and although the style is intriguing some of the content I found a bit too visceral. Having read Sade and more recently American Psycho I didn't feel I could face more blood and guts so when this started talking about ripping a child's chest and drinking the blood I decided not to put myself through any more. No doubt the human psyche is full of violent thoughts and instincts but I find vivid descriptions of blood lust quite disturbing and upsetting. Otherwise I would have been more than willing to try to cope with the surrealistic style which may well be beautiful in parts.

Les Chants de Maldoror

btw I find those people with 8000+ books read somewhat hard to believe.

>> No.8919924

>>8919878
They are right though. Catch-22 is an awful book.

>>8919884
A dead white guy who a living black guy called racist wrote it.

>> No.8919932

>>8917323
>I hate the charecter with all my forces
>he is just a... psico men
>very very descrite
>I regreat
Holy... I want more...

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>> No.8920042

>>8919820
He's write tho.

>> No.8920043

>>8919726

reviewing a book by YA standards.

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>> No.8920099

>>8918003

90% of the 1 star reviews for 'sailor who fell from grace' are complaints about how gross the cat killing scene is. Never mind the fact a gang of adolescents murder an adult

>> No.8920105

>>8917323
So, I don't even read high literature. I just saw this thread on the front page, but I have to ask. Do they seriously not teach cultural relativism in college?

I assume most of these women are sociology or philosophy majors and yet they don't understand that a work must be taken within the context of the time it was written and not be judged by the standards of modern society.

>> No.8920107

>>8918315

She seems to imply that she literally never reads short stories, which explains a lot.

>> No.8920114

>>8918355

Why the fuck would you mention Joyce and Welsh in the same sentence. I am triggered

>> No.8920124

>>8918624

his critique is so dumb that this genuinely makes me want to read mccarthy now. I disdain grammmar and plot

>> No.8920126

>>8919726

Maybe what you're being 'told' isn't the real meaning? Jesus fuck oh my shut up

>> No.8920215

>>8920081
She's not wrong about sex and Character being trash

>> No.8920224

>>8920099
The murder isn't actually described though

>> No.8920297

>>8920114
Just because of their fondness for regional dialect.

>> No.8920314

>>8919719
Used to be one of them; you're not happier for it on the whole, you're constantly miserable but for brief bright spots when someone recognizes your virtue signaling as virtuous, and more frequent spots when you can delight in the suffering of your 'bigoted' enemies. The only highs you feel come from masochism and schadenfreude.

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>>8918596
I "regreat" clicking on this thread. Now I'm full of ragea.

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>> No.8920520

>>8920510
How does a person like this live a full day without killing themselves

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>> No.8920567

>>8917323
How can a person who isn't able to properly formulate a one-paragraph review have a YouTube channel with the purpose of professional book reviews? Bitch can't type "psycho" correctly.

If she can do it, I can.

>> No.8920568

>>8919774
I agree with her.

>> No.8920573

Goodreads is a pit of insufferable tasteless normies who think Twilight is better than War and Piece.

>> No.8920575

>>8920081
/ourgirl/

>> No.8920582

>>8920088
What book is this

>> No.8920586

>>8920582
Camp of the Saints

>> No.8920587

>>8920586
Does the reviewer fairly represent the book as staunchly anti-immigration or is it just indignated exaggeration?

>> No.8920588

Is it that hard for liberals to cast aside their prejudice before reading a book?

>> No.8920598

>>8920587
Yea, the book is all about how a wave of immigration from the third world overflows Europe and how everyone is too anti-racist to do anything about it. It's well written, but whether you think it's a racist screed or a eerily accurate prophecy of the current migrant crisis will depend on your political views.

>> No.8920600

>>8919758
>im mentally challenged
>hence Illiad sucked

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Tried to make it obscure. There aren't any funny 1-star reviews of this book. Just tired (mostly overblown) cultural criticisms.

>> No.8920615

>>8920588
People in general do find it hard. I think it's clear most of us on /lit/ struggle to leave politics at the door as well.

>> No.8920626

>>8920081
BASED
A
S
E
D

>> No.8920634

>>8920081
that's actually pretty good

>> No.8920644

>>8920615
I personally reject all forms of war IRL yet my favorite fantasy genre is inter-species wars. It's not that hard enjoying fiction about something you despise IRL

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>> No.8920647

>>8918287
Wow, this person didn't figure out that the third murderer is Macbeth. That's some heavy stupid.

Also,

>I don't think anyone should read a play rather than watching it

Is something I've only heard from high school freshmen who've only seen one play in their life -- a play that they were forced to see.

Good find; 9/10; made me mad.

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>>8920654
>Those uncalled for capitals in the middle of the sentence.

>> No.8920662

>>8920647
Tfw will never get to watch Shakespeare play Hamlet's dad
Watching a play decently executed is generally better than reading it tho.

>> No.8920677

>>8918417
as english departments fill with sjws and feminists, this will become receieved wisdom; Chaucer and all the canonical writers will be deemed racist white men and erased from the culture.

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really made me think

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Not my favorite book, but made me cringe hard.

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>> No.8920887

>click 1-star review for book
>comment is about kindle edition or print quality of the book

>> No.8920934

http://www.strawpoll.me/12020100

>> No.8920964

>Look up Brothers Karamazov
>"ITS TOO LONG"
>"ITS BORING"
>"I DONT GET IT"

>> No.8920997

>>8920887

but these are useful...

>> No.8921056

>>8920567
No, you can't.

>> No.8921062

Do you use goodreads or anything else to keep track of you reading anon?

>> No.8921161

>>8918624
Am I illiterate if I find his review more interesting than McCarthy's writing?

>> No.8921750

>>8920725
>doesn't realize the ambiguity and dichotomy is the whole point of the text
>thinks escoteric Taoist philosophy must be explicable to a six year old or Laozi doesn't get it
>thinks Tzu is a name

some people should never try to understand mysticism

>> No.8921789

>>8918417
This one makes me angry.

>> No.8921808

>All these retards reading 50+ year old books and using New York Times Bestseller logic to determine whether they are good or not.

Jesus Christ kill me. Fuck you Stephen King for ruining a generation of readers.

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>> No.8921842

>>8920646
MYRNA HAS COMMON SENSE

A REAL HERO

>> No.8921870

>>8920646
>I have a feeling Ignatius is a character avatar for John Kennedy Toole himself, and may be why he killed himself

ouch

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>>8918624
>I did not read the entire book
Why does Goodreads allow this?

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Shelves
>slut-shaming
>bye-bye-nineteenth-amendment

>> No.8921966

>>8920695
>We don't insist on having all the caveman art read by the masses, do we?

What

>> No.8921983

I feel better about myself thanks to this thread.

>> No.8922032

>>8921951
I wish I could filter out reviews and posts by women.

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>>8917323

>> No.8922240

>>8921951
who got slut shamed in Paradise Lost again?

>> No.8922265

>>8921940

She's completely right you know.

>> No.8922271

>>8917984
I suppose it's what all these feminist types do sorry Beaner

>> No.8922283

>>8922240
Eve?

>> No.8922295

>>8918491
Her roots tho

>> No.8922299

>>8922213
inb4 she'll get her punishment

>> No.8922315

>>8922213
>doesn't realize she's reading a translation so blames Dostoevsky for overusing the word 'deleterious'.

>> No.8922328

>>8918355
>I don't particularly enjoy gay male sex scenes,
Damn this dude sounds straight as fuck

>> No.8922330

>>8918009
>we will never return to the state of nature so that people this can experience the nasty, brutish, and short life Hobbes was denouncing

>> No.8922332

>>8917960
Do normies have souls?

>> No.8922342

>>8918287
>most of the characters are one-dimensional
Macbeth is one of the most complex characters in all of modern English writing

>> No.8922387

>>8918037
>>8918037
He is right tho.

>> No.8922444

>>8922387
It sounds like you have no idea about what a dialogue is you enormous pleb.

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>look up my favorite Swedish book
>a lot of the reviews are in Arabic

It just never ends, always reminding me.

>> No.8922557

>>8919732

>gayest review of 2008

>> No.8922652

>>8921056
Yes, I fucking can.

>> No.8922664

>>8922213
>Deletrious
>English word
>"Dostoevsky loves this word, doesn't he?"

Is she fucking retarded?

>> No.8922672

>>8922213
>We don't need an all-powerful man in the sky to know good from bad.

She's right you know.

>> No.8922674

>>8920081
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_Character
>the female life is consumed with the sexual function: both with the act, as a prostitute, and the product, as a mother.
Wow, way to prove him right.

>> No.8922679

>>8922473
Books get translated to many a language, you know.

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>>8921951
can't say she's a total pleb, she sure loves Greek Mythology

>> No.8922700

>>8922686
I can't understand any of this shit.

>> No.8922710

>>8922700
Oh fuck never mind I think it's a fucking Mean Girls reference

>> No.8922738

>>8919924
eat shit retardo

>> No.8922776
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>>8922738
>He thinks Catch-22 is anything other than a Ready Player One tier reddit book

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>> No.8923184

>>8919884
>>8919798
>>8919924
Heart of Darkness acknowledges how fucked human nature is. Women, esp. feminists, can't handle the fact bad things happen.

>> No.8923313

>>8922672
No she's not. Atheism breeds nihilism breeds hedonism; morals that serve the individual instead of society.

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8923345

>why wasn't he just less of a dick?

>> No.8923389

>>8922686
Vaginas were a mistake

>> No.8923460

>>8923313
She is, though. Think back to the old time philosophers: their gods were a bunch of dicks, not a moral high ground.

>> No.8923502

>>8923460
The importance lies in the cohesion of society; so long as everyone agrees, the details are secondary. If everyone has their own personal ideas of morals that come out of their own usually flawed thinking process, cohesion is impossible.

>> No.8923553

>>8917323
>reading 1 star review of my favorite book
>it actually has good points
>now i hate the book and author
i wasnt expecting this

>> No.8923561

>>8923553
Which book and which review? That got me curious.

>> No.8923571

>>8923313
how does nihilism breed hedonism?

>> No.8923580

>>8922793
What book?

>> No.8923585

>>8923580
Our Town

>> No.8923586

>>8923561
Call me a pleb, but it was multiple reviews across different Haruki Murakami novels (in particular Colorless Tsukuru Tazaki, as i felt really disappointed with some passages of the book)

>> No.8923621

Not negative but from a 4channer:

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1218519963

He has a decent analysis but he missed the point. Oblomov can't act, or act often because to him it involves a sort of inauthenticity, or baseness. Oblomov is a very lofty, but pure heated man and can't bring himself to do much until he finds love. But even then oblomov realizes he is deceiving himself and ends it.

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>>8922672
>he thinks you can have objective morality without god

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>tfw to intelligent too go on goodreads
I can barely handle the pseuds on here, how could I ever handle the most base plebs in the world of literature? Goodreads is more cancer than r/books

>> No.8923667

>>8923652
/lit/ is basically just /r/books + /v/

>> No.8923683

>>8923667
you really know these places very well dont you, dear my brainlet?

>> No.8923686

Why do women even bother? They should stick to what they're capable of understanding, like gone with the wind or bronte shit. Can you imagine a woman understanding Mishima?
>>8918003
I don't think women have souls or are capable of critical thought

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>>8923683
>dear my brainlet

>> No.8923732

>>8922213
>Very immature argument.
>She is too euphoric to be open minded to different ideas on religion and atheism.

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>>8918009

>If I met Hobbes in the street I would flash him my tits and then slap him in the face and call him a pervert.

>> No.8923796

>>8919778
Do people simplify to this extent just to make me mad

>> No.8923989
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8923989

tfw Tolstoy was a misogynistic pig

>> No.8924005

>>8922652
Shit... sorry.

>> No.8924011

>>8918003
what book?

>> No.8924025

>>8918624

Spot on.

>> No.8924038

>>8919798

>racist things happened in the real world

>guy writes about it in a way to show how fucked up it was

>people honestly think it shouldn't be read because it details how absolutely fucked up Belgium made the Congo during the Colonial Age

I hate my contemporaries.

>> No.8924060

>>8924038
It's not even about niggers for fucks sake

>> No.8924102

>>8924060
I have severe difficulty understanding how any of these people could read the initial examination by the doctor, where he takes out the fucking cranium-measuring prongs, and acts like a complete buffoon in front of the narrator, and then go on to interpret the rest of the book as some kind of racist screed. It is laid out almost from the get-go what the book will be about, but because it never says in explicit language 'racism is bad,' it's somehow inherently racist to some people.

It's fucking abysmal to talk about my favorite book with other people, and I hate it.

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>>8917323
Christ, David has no chill.

>> No.8924262

>>8924209
he writes like a pseud

>> No.8924330

>>8924209
>I'm a hero for posting a review about how much I hate this book after only reading half of it.

>> No.8924382

http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/632276

This is only one among the worst
I had no idea there were people that hated Moby Dick, it isn't just women either judging from the reviews page

>i tried. but any book with that passage, and thousands of passages just like it, can never get five stars from me. and probably not even four. not because i think it is shitty writing, but because when i was growing up, i was told that girls just wanna have fun, and that was not giving me any fun at all.

>> No.8924445

>>8923571
I could see it. Or at least display which can be perceived as being hedonistic. If you're in the sad emo camp of nihilism, you're likely an introvert who avoids a lot of contact with what might make you feel briefly happy; then there's the other camp, which is "fuck yeah, nihilism," which enables a no-fucks-given attitude and possibly a sense of false superiority.

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This is pretty incredible. He doesn't understand really obvious word jokes.

>> No.8924473

>>8923571
>>8924445
Why should a nihilist care about others beyond how it benefits him personally? Why should he care about the greater good, about society, about the future, his children, about virtue and principle? If life is all for naught, you might as well get as much immediate sensory pleasures as you possibly can before it's all over. Have as much sex, drink as much alcohol, do as much drugs, make and spend as much money, break as many laws without getting caught etc. because why wouldn't you?

>> No.8924496

I think I'm slowly becoming fascist, these people shouldn't have been afforded the freedom to read litererature

>> No.8924526

>>8924473
Exactly my point.

>> No.8924527

>>8924473
Ah, nihilism; the laziest form of philosophy.

>> No.8924587

>>8919711
>tfw soon

>> No.8924601

>>8917323
Her youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/chocklad9/videos

>> No.8924629

>>8924601
What a disgusting subhuman language

>> No.8924809

>>8918414
>a time of clear moral codes and deadly weaponry
>BOTNS

did she get it confused with The Wizard Knight?

>> No.8924823

>>8918003
I wonder what of Mishima she read and didn't find sickening.

>> No.8924852

at least these people say what they really think of so called "classics" while /lit/ pretends to enjoy them to look "patrician".

>> No.8924883

>>8924527
>putting in more effort means something is right

>> No.8924902

>>8924011
Confessions of a Mask.

>>8920099
That scene is one of the most beautifully written in the book and the kind of stuff that makes me love Mishima in the first place.

>> No.8924969

>>8922674
>In a separate chapter, Weininger, himself a Jew who had converted to Christianity in 1902, analyzes the archetypical Jew as feminine, and thus profoundly irreligious, without true individuality (soul), and without a sense of good and evil. Christianity is described as "the highest expression of the highest faith", while Judaism is called "the extreme of cowardliness". Weininger decries the decay of modern times, and attributes much of it to feminine, and thus Jewish, influences. By Weininger's reckoning everyone shows some femininity, and what he calls "Jewishness".
hmm

>> No.8924977

>>8923313
Why does atheism breed nihilism?
I don't think that's necessarily true.

>> No.8925095

>>8923989
At least his works aren't totally without virtue.
I guess I am still allowed to read them untill my progressive marxist university officially bans them.

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>>8917323

>> No.8925206

>>8923989
>unintegrated

what the fuck does this mean? that they didn't have forced busing?

>> No.8925218

>>8925118
>you have to be assassinated to be a martyr

what did he mean by this?

>> No.8925219

>>8918009
>If I met Hobbes in the street I would flash him my tits and then slap him in the face and call him a pervert.
Someone has been watching South Park

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>>8917323
>>8918003
>>8918009
>>8918037
>>8918287
>>8918417
>>8920695
>>8920699
>>8921824
>>8921951
>>8922213
Im triggered to levels that shouldnt even be possible.

>> No.8925929

>Few books have infected me with boredom-induced ADD, the desire to gnaw my own foot off at the ankle, and the state of mind you might experience if forced to sit upon a nest of hornets while watching your home being burglarized, but this was one of them. It took me until page 70 to stop wanting to hop up and rearrange the spice cupboard or my sock drawer every few sentences, but then the feeling returned at page 243. Only 224 pages to go! From then on, my hatred and resentment of this book progressively grew like a dead cow bloating in the heat.

>“Kafka on the Shore” is a mess. It is such a mess that it makes my six-year-old son’s post-playdate bedroom look like Buckingham Palace. Loosely based on the Oedipus myth, and taking some obvious inspiration from Catcher in the Rye, this book seems to be little more than a random hodgepodge of ideas held together with pipe cleaners and raspberry jam.

>There was so much to hate about this book. Here are just a few things:
>1. Boring, unnecessary descriptions – that do nothing to further the story – of what people are wearing, what Kafka likes to do during his workout, what he decides to eat, what he is listening to on his Walkman, and so on. I wouldn’t have been surprised to read a monologue from Kafka along the lines of: “When I wipe my arse, I like to use just four squares of toilet paper, no more, no less. I count them out – one, two, three, four. Then I fold the length over once, and again. Equipped now with the perfect, handheld quilt, I wipe in a single, expert, sweeping motion – front to back. Examine the paper to determine whether I need to repeat the process. However, I would add that this is only if the paper is two-ply. For one-ply paper, I need a minimum of eight sheets, but only if they are of high quality. If not of high quality, the boy Crow reminds me, ‘Remember, you’ve got to be the toughest 15-year-old on the planet.’”
>2. The gratuitous cat torture scene. Johnnie Walker (him off the whiskey bottle) has to cut the hearts out of living cats and eat them so that he can collect cat souls to make a special kind of flute. There is no freakin’ point to this scene whatsoever – we never hear about Johnnie or his cat-flute again.
>3. The annoying way characters – Oshima in particular – deliver sermons about philosophy, art, literature and classical music. It took me right out of the story (tangled mess though it was) and smacked of “Look at me – aren’t I clever?”
>4. The screechy-preachy scene with the “feminist” caricatures in the library.
>5. Hate to be ungroovy or whatever – but I just couldn’t stand any of the sex scenes, particularly with Miss Saeki, the 50-something librarian who gets it on over and over again with the 15-year-old protagonist even though he and she both know she might be his long-lost mother. Excuse me while I go mop the vomitus off of my living room wall.

Wew.

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>>8925929
>Boring, unnecessary descriptions – that do nothing to further the story – of [...] what he is listening to on his Walkman

>> No.8927230

>>8919758
what is it with all thes one star reviews complaining that characters are unlikeable?

>> No.8927239

>>8925929
>>8926335
Murakami is a hack. He deserves any shit he gets. All of his main male characters are self-insert misunderstood special snowflakes that love running and have superior taste in the arts, especially music.

>> No.8927255

>>8927230
some people can't deal with anything that portrays despicable, damaged or obnoxious characters in leading roles. It always has to be good characters against evil opposition. (Not that you can't write a good book like that, it's just not the only way).

>> No.8927261

>>8924102
well, don't you know, Huck Finn and Tom Sawyer are racist because they say nigger in the book\
for fucks sake, I saw someone try to claim that To Kill a Mockingbird was racist

some people are unable to distinguish depictions of racism from racism

>> No.8927298

>>8920699
this guy is a professor in a literature department fyi

>> No.8927330

>>8920699
>2008
Wow this guy was a pioneer

>> No.8927352

>What a slog! Through the frozen slush of mind-numbing effort. Because Russians as victims of dismal oppression must express their discontent through long, boring novels, however elaborately imagined, must we as free people love the Russian people by suffering through tiresome references, allusions and allegories with them? Being free means not having to agonize through hearing the whining of the less fortunate in other countries who refuse to follow linear experience and learn experiential conclusions, especially since they at least partly brought it upon themselves. I hated this book and look with askance at those of us who find it their favorite book. (That means you too, Leah.) Oppressed people, if they want to let free peoples know the full extent of their plight, should stick to slapstick, romance and pornography. Then we could love the author for entertaining us and see for ourselves why he or she can't accept the acclaim we wish to laud the author for his/her accomplishments.

FREEDOM AINT NOT FREE

>> No.8927363

>>8917323
This makes me sad that women have rights.

>> No.8927379

>>8927352
which neocon posted this I wonder? Lindsay Graham? Bill Kristol?

>> No.8927444

>>8927255
I remember back in high school we read Bartleby the Scrivener for AP English
there was a group of 4 or 6 girls who were friends and all they had to say about the story was "Bartleby is annoying"

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>>8927379
It was David K Lemons, author of 'The Crescent, the Sea, & the Long Sand: Poems and Stories'

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>>8917323

>> No.8927923

>>8927239
Doesn't change the fact that the person who wrote that review made terrible points.
I also personally think Murakami gets too little credit around here. Of course you're right to a degree, but he's still well above the vast, vast majority of what gets put out today. I feel like there is still some merit to his work.

>> No.8927964

>>8923345
Wow fuck that. The Power and the Glory is great.

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I think I struck gold

>> No.8928485

Short excerpt from an exercise I am doing, based on the poem Charge of the Light Brigade by Alfred Tennyson.

http://pastebin.com/HWgZhDYt
http://pastebin.com/HWgZhDYt

Main goal of this was to practise pace and action. Although do read it as you would any story and take into account vocabulary. I was never good at writing fights or battles.

>> No.8928503

>>8928368
What book?

>> No.8928510

>>8928503
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

>> No.8929806

>>8928503
yeah
why the fuck are people posting reviews without saying what book

should be standard

>> No.8929843

>>8918009

Mein Kempf ('s disease)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_panic