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Anonymous Mon Dec 26 18:55:29 2016 No.8888557 [Reply] [Original]

The greatest cinematic adaptation of Shakespeare? inb4 gook shit, Kurosawa is not quite second-rate

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 18:58:04 2016 No.8888567 kenneth branagh's hamlet

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:06:32 2016 No.8888607 >>8888557 >literally no one better for the role of Falstaff than Orson "Started from the top and made his way down" Welles >Best, most immaculate staging for Act II, Scene IV >Battle. Of. Shrewsbury Chimes at Midnight, desu

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:07:55 2016 No.8888612 >>8888607 yeah i liked orson doing falstaff, good choice

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:10:16 2016 No.8888620

>>8888557

Also a big fan of Branagh's Hamlet. Seems to be the only one that realized it was just another adaptation and for that reason he really runs with it. I especially like the choice of actors for play-within-a-play. Heston as Priam? Very subtle cinematic version of wall-breaking, casting as heightened state of disbelief indeed

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:12:51 2016 No.8888627 File: 1.11 MB, 595x763, rapeface.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8888557 OP likes anything with anus in it, amirite?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:16:44 2016 No.8888636 >>8888567 >>8888620 Branagh was too old to play Hamlet

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:20:01 2016 No.8888651

>>8888567
cringey

style was like W.S. Anderson's Resident Evil movies. from the very opening "Who's there" being interpreted as an I N T E N S E ACTION MOVIE TACKLE AND DAGGER PULL i was disengaged

reeked of self importance and ignorance. high art for the bourgeois philistine

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:21:05 2016 No.8888654 >>8888651 ok but whats better

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:21:59 2016 No.8888659 >>8888607 This Welles was born to play Falstaff

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:22:02 2016 No.8888660

>>8888636

Oh most certainly with Hamlet being some confluence of 18 and 30. But he had played him before and thus had 'caught' him while he was still of age and it shows. He does play him as a young man, even if the skin has degraded.

A shame about the mustache though

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:22:51 2016 No.8888663 >>8888651 i mean i'll give you that stuff, it was an attempt to make it more exciting and digestible, but i look past it because its overall its great.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:23:14 2016 No.8888666 >>8888557 Was pretty good but I'm biased. Fiennes and Coriolanus the play are based. But Chick-shakespeare like Taymor or some other shlock is probably considered the best.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:24:12 2016 No.8888668 >>8888651 And absolutely RUINING the whole thing with that horrid whispery King Hamlet. Was Branagh afraid of being outstaged? shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:26:31 2016 No.8888676 >>8888666 Her Titus is bretty gud, but never do I feel more ridiculously alt-right/patriarchal when hating on the totally unnecessary casting of Mirren (Queen that she is) as 'Prospera' Best version of The Tempest is still 'Prospero's Books'

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 20:50:54 2016 No.8889010 >>8888557 Ralph was real great in that one

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 20:56:02 2016 No.8889027 >>8888557 >The greatest cinematic adaptation of Shakespeare? lol. not even close. the '71 adaptation of 'king lear' by peter brook is the greatest adaptation by far. watch paul scofield play king lear if you want to see something really special.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 20:59:39 2016 No.8889039 >>8889027 I didn't just dislike that production, I hated it!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 21:01:28 2016 No.8889049 >>8889039 how dare you, sir. post a picture of yourself so i can show my wife's son what evil truly looks like.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 07:30:50 2016 No.8890296 its ralph fiennes' coriolanus

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 07:53:01 2016 No.8890325 The Lion King. Any other answer is objectively wrong

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 07:59:38 2016 No.8890331

>No Kurosawa
kek

You're missing out on some of the greatest films of all time.

Throne of Blood (Macbeth) is second only to Ran (King Lear) in my book. The Bad Sleep Well (Hamlet) ain't bad either.

Some of the Russian adaptations are pretty good though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 08:05:07 2016 No.8890345 >>8890331 > let me enjoy my shakespeare in japanese "ching chong, ching chong, where art thou ching chong?"

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 08:08:25 2016 No.8890353 >>8890345 Throne of Blood was a favorite of TS Eliot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 08:16:09 2016 No.8890373 >>8890353 and eliot would have LOVED fiennes' coriolanus

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 08:20:18 2016 No.8890383 File: 93 KB, 468x703, 24-king-henry-v-kenneth-branagh[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8888557

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 08:25:09 2016 No.8890398 >>8890345 wow way to be an utter fucking pleb

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 08:26:51 2016 No.8890402

Haven't seen many adaptations, but I loved the intensity and brutality of Polanski's Macbeth. The new adaptation is pretty meh, on the other hand. Too much ambient shit in a supposedly tight and violent play, it ends up feeling bloodless and boring (even though it's an hour shorter than Polanski).

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 08:30:23 2016 No.8890409 >>8890345 it's wherefore you fucking idiot, it's a different word

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 08:42:22 2016 No.8890433 Peter Brook's Lear if no one's said it yet. Branagh is honestly a boring hack of an actor even if his direction and starring of the films is very impressive. Rylance blows him out of the water on stage and screen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 09:27:47 2016 No.8890517 >>8890345 >>>/pol

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 10:48:08 2016 No.8890718

>>8890345
She's not asking where he is you degenerate. Like >>8890409 said it is 'wherefore' which more or less means 'why'. The whole speech concerns her lamenting that he is a Montague and not of another family. That you would top off this ignorance with witless casual racism is so plebeian it hurt

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 12:15:12 2016 No.8890948 File: 116 KB, 1000x563, ldiZsKkwVR7sHnkQZmzoPhKmEo3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How has no one mentioned this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 12:20:18 2016 No.8890974 >>8888557 This doesn't even begin to warrant a discussion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-yZNMWFqvM

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 12:53:58 2016 No.8891066 >>8890974 Olivier's version used to be a favorite of Kubrick until he saw Branagh's, which he saw as a vast improvement

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 13:02:51 2016 No.8891082 >>8888557 Great movie. Underrated.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 13:18:09 2016 No.8891126 Mel Gibson's Hamlet

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 13:57:23 2016 No.8891272

>>8888557
The problem for me is that Shakespeare is so immense in his genius I almost always have problems–often major ones–with stagings of his play because the stage/film director fails at understanding some nuance (or sometimes a major theme) of the play. Because of this my favourite adaptation would be your inb4'ed Kurosawa with his film Ran. Because it isn't actually Shakespeare I'm not distracted by the things I usually don't like about such plays/films.

>>8888620
I think just because it was a full production gives it a serious case for being the best Hamlet adaptation. I find when you watch an abridged version they have all the material required for a coherent story but that it always butchers Shakespeare's telos for what the play is actually aiming to do.

That being said I do enjoy this version anyway. It does one thing right that I always hated about Gibson's version. Gibson tries to make Hamlet as natural as possible which ruins it. The whole point of the play is Hamlet consciously imitating the actor so he overcome his epistemological nihilism to kill Claudius. He is meant to be a theatrical character. To play him naturally is to misunderstand the purpose of the play. Branagh's Hamlet does this perfectly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 14:11:22 2016 No.8891312 If your answer is anything but Chimes at Midnight you don't know shit about neither Shakespeare nor film.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 14:17:11 2016 No.8891320 >>8888651 This describes every Branagh adaptation. Even Much Ado About Nothing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 14:20:27 2016 No.8891327 >>8890948 The setting and stylization is fabulous. Wretched acting all-around, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 14:21:22 2016 No.8891329 >>8888557 dude the lion kinfg lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 15:29:46 2016 No.8891552 Sons of Anarchy :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 15:53:20 2016 No.8891629 >>8888557 Fassbender/Cotillard Macbeth

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