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*reads Nietzsche once*

>> No.8846591

>>8846589
>>8846589
I don't get it

>> No.8846603

>>8846589
I don't think he read much of that angry anti-nationalist judeophilic little professor to be honest.

>> No.8846606

>>8846603
this

>> No.8846609

>>8846603
I don't think he read much of anything at all. His speeches display a literacy level that ends at /pol/ posts

>> No.8846617

>>8846609
He holds his own pretty well in the Jonathan Bowden podcasts, someone on the far right who was undeniably well-read.

>> No.8846619

>>8846603
>>8846609
>>8846606
I was watching Jonathon Bowden videos on youtube to satisfy my inner LARPer, and there were several episodes of this guy's podcast where he discusses philosophy with Bowden.

He's certainly at least read them, but compared to Bowden he's basically illiterate.

To be fair, Bowden makes most people sound illiterate in comparison.

>> No.8846623

>>8846619
Adam?

>> No.8846626

>>8846617
>someone on the far right who was undeniably well-read.

Thats a tautology

>> No.8846631

>>8846626
*tips cernovich*

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8846653

Not to be a faggot or anything but lets be honest, the alt-right is probably one of the most well-read political movements out there.

I mean must of their thing is muh culture and race so all they do at night is listen to classical music, read books and fantasize about Roman/Renaissance art.

>> No.8846662

>>8846653
>muh culture
>so they engage with art

Nah it's more like they get antsy whenever someone says Happy Christmas instead of Merry Christmas

>> No.8846681

>>8846662
I always say Merry Christmas but whenever a Jew gets mad about it, I tell them to have a happy Holocaust


Next, I tip my fedora, do a 360, and moonwalk away

>> No.8846685

>>8846653
Does he live through the looking glass?

>> No.8846686

>>8846662
sounds more like the Christian right than the Alt-right.

I stand by my belief that the alt-right is more well-read than most other political movements, remember though that most political movements don't read books at all, so it's not the highest bar.

>> No.8846690

>>8846662
I'm not that person, who is a troll, but it's true that the academic left pushes tons of constructivist and inclusionary tripe that seeks to level all art and expression. Soon there will be professors in conservatories who teach students Kanye West instead of Bach, and they will accuse all the other professors of racism unless they do the same.

Maybe, in public schools and universities, everything will be swallowed up by resentment in our lifetime.

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8846692

>>8846653
Helloooo.

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>>8846686
Yes, yes, well done, Alt-Right, well done Alt-Right

HOWEVER

>> No.8846711

>>8846653
>implying they listen to classical music beyond those awful "2 hours of epic classical music" mixes on youtube.

Have you ever been to a music thread on /pol/? I mean, the only Wagner you see - and you'd expect him to be their guy of choice - is the Ride of the Valkyries because none of them have even bothered to watch/listen to the Ring or any of Wagner's operas for that matter.

>> No.8846719

>>8846692
he's old, they dont count
>>8846698
Communists might be up there too. Anarcho-Libertarians too perhaps.

I still believes the alt-right to be on top, 65% of their ideology is this "high-culture" vision.

>> No.8846722

ok now watch me be op...
*bes gay*

>> No.8846737

>>8846711
Dvorak is top tier, though.

Wagner a shit.

>> No.8846748

>read evola once

fuck the jews lol red pill

>> No.8846750

>>8846711
I was about to make the exact same post. These guys read parts of Plato's republic and a sparknotes summary of the Iliad and instantly become renaissance men.

Then they hop on /pol/ and make a shitty post about a half baked idea on traditionalism and attaches an image of a marble statue from antiquity.

>> No.8846751

>>8846737
Oh yes, I forgot they all know Dvorak 9 because the Japanese seem to love it and put it in all their animes.

I like Dvorak, but Wagner was a lot more influential than him.

>> No.8846766

>>8846609
>His speeches display a literacy level that ends at /pol/ posts
Why is it always the piss poorest writers censuring prose here? You haven't even mastered the basics. What business do you have posting about literacy?

>> No.8846770

>>8846766
There's basics and there's dogs barking

>> No.8846772

>>8846770
/lit/ prose is worse than dogs barking tbqh

>> No.8846776

>>8846589
I tried to read Nietzsche once but gave up after a w pages and went back to being comfy with my logic book.

>> No.8846784

>>8846711
>I mean, the only Wagner you see - and you'd expect him to be their guy of choice - is the Ride of the Valkyries
This is too obvious. Next time make it Tannhauser or some shit. This simpleton post is worse than what you accuse /pol/ of
>>8846750
>These guys read parts of Plato's republic and a sparknotes summary of the Iliad and instantly become renaissance men.
Thought you were describing /lit/ at first

>> No.8846788

>>8846784
>"I know what you are but what am I"

Very impressive /pol/

>> No.8846789

>>8846603
>judeophilic
>Nietzsche
lol

>> No.8846795

>>8846589
why do people act like this guy is good looking

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>>8846795
Low expectations

>> No.8846804

>>8846788
>Very impressive /pol/
Shrink it all you want, to fit your little head. The fact remains that this board, including your derivative observations, is no better than /pol/ in affording good artistic discussion. You're mocking thirteen year old neo nazis no simpler than yourself.

>> No.8846817

>>8846589
He actually has a very good understanding of Nietzsche whatever you think of his politics.

>> No.8846818

>>8846804
>Yeah well you're dumb too

>> No.8846830

>>8846784
>worse than what you accuse /pol/ of

But it is exactly what they do. I know Wagner's music doesn't lend itself particularly well to being broken into independent sections, so asking someone what their favourite bit of Wagner is a lot more difficult than asking for their favourite Verdi aria, but it's always the Ride of the Valkyries. They'd probably really like the prelude of Parisfal, but it doesn't appear as much in pop culture so they have no clue.

>> No.8846834

>>8846818
>can't read
>not dumb
pick one brainlet

>> No.8846842

>>8846830
>But it is exactly what they do.
Not really. They often post obscure composers in those threads.
>verdi
>parsfial
You don't seem to be very far below the surface yourself.

>> No.8846846

>>8846834
Nigga you have no argument, you've admitted /pol/ is dumb and you're only response from there is /lit/ is just as illiterate which is patently false. Whatever else the merits of this board, its like comparing kindergarten to high schoolers

>> No.8846864

>>8846846
>you've admitted /pol/ is dumb
You act as if I ever denied it.
>which is patently false
If anything, they're superior. I've at least seen a few posters on /pol/ who speak several languages and have read the basics. There is no such thing as a discussion here, even the "best" posters make amateur mistakes that any high school teacher should laugh at.
Your poor reading comprehension is itself proof of this.
>its like comparing kindergarten to high schoolers
Yes, but you're hopelessly confused as to which is which.

>> No.8846866

>>8846864
>I've at least seen a few posters on /pol/ who speak several languages and have read the basics.

Serious question, is this your first time on /lit/?

>> No.8846870

>>8846842
I know you're being wilfully dense, but please re-read what I wrote. I did not say that Parsifal was by Verdi.

>they often post obscure composers
Obscure =/= better.

>> No.8846880

>>8846866
>Serious question
Another problem you share with /pol/- too much reddit overlap.
And, no, I used to come here a few years ago, but stopped because I couldn't stomach visiting a board where people ask whether translated proust is too difficult.

>> No.8846881

>>8846589
>CEO Erick Hayden

>> No.8846883

>>8846870
>I did not say that Parsifal was by Verdi.
No one said that you did.
>Obscure =/= better.
No one said it was.

true /lit/ quality

>> No.8846886

>>8846880
Ah right, so you don't know shit about here and are just throwing wide nets in the dark

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8846889

>>8846846
your*

>> No.8846989

>>8846653
>well read

Just because they've read things you've read doesn't mean they're well read. Lenin, Trotsky and even Stalin were much better read than anyone in the alt-right. Guevara and Castro as well. Hell the founding fathers of the US as well.

>> No.8846993

>>8846883
Oh my mistake then, I didn't think anyone was quite stupid enough to make the assertion that you were making in between your ludicrously vague greentexts. If I had known I could have impressed you by name-dropping suitably little-known works and composers, I would have done so from the outset.

>> No.8846994

>>8846993
Hoh shit, he mad

>> No.8847012

>>8846994
Very much so lad. Being told that I'm a dilettante when it comes to classical music is the one thing that really gets going.

>> No.8847016

>>8847012
Yeah thats a common reaction from pseuds

>> No.8847029

>>8847016
Quite. Good thing that everyone else is a pseud, otherwise I would have been found out by now.

>> No.8847045

>>8846989
It was obviously compared to contemporary political movements and people.

>> No.8847061

>>8846993
>, I didn't think anyone was quite stupid enough to make the assertion that you were
This is mere cover for the fact that you were too stupid to understand a simple post.

>> No.8847067

>>8847029
>I would have been found out by now.

>> No.8847106

>>8847029
>now
Lmao, no your were busted many posts ago, pseudanon

>> No.8847135

>>8847061
ok
>>8847067
>>8847106
the real world is obviously a lot stupider than /lit/ so my reputation is safe.

>> No.8847144

>>8846789
>non-nachlass readers thinking they're allowed to have opinions

pls

>> No.8847156

>>8846653
alt-right here. it feels punk as fuck

>> No.8847158

>>8847156
Durr retard here, me a rebel

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8847172

>>8847156
I love this meme

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8847175

>>8847156
Much of the essence of the alt-right, to me, is captured in this book.

>> No.8847177

>>8846653
>alt-right
>well-read and cultured
you can't be serious. they only read selected books to reinforce their own ideology and give the impression of being intellectual. that's the opposite of "cultured"
The alt-right is the biggest group of cherry-picking pseuds since SJW's

>> No.8847181

>>8846653
lmao.
the hard left is much more well read. Lenin was always shitting on English workers because they were well organised and numerous, but theoretically handicapped.
le alt right fags are anti intellectuals. (((academia))) and so on

>> No.8847187

>>8847177
>implying followers of any other ideology are any better
>implying the "alt-right" is an ideology
good goy, listen and believe! The alt-right is the menace that is destroying America, time for your two minutes hate!

>> No.8847193

>>8847187
>following ideologies
shiggy diggy

>at least we aren't the worst poison!
read a book faggot

>> No.8847197

>>8847187
>time for your two minutes hate!
>Using Orwell to dismiss criticism of the "alt-right"

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8847198

>>8847181
>intellectual enough to compare a contemporary movement of people with movements and people from 100 years ago

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>>8847187
>implying the "alt-right" is an ideology

This is a delicious teaspoon of ideology

>> No.8847201

>>8847193
>haha im a MODERATE yeah I bet you didnt see that coming
>I think about my opinions INDEPENDENTLY thats why they're all identical to everyone else's opinions

>> No.8847208

>>8847187
not ironic enough. Maybe if you'd attached a suitable picture

>> No.8847210

>>8847197
Good goy! These """alt-righters""" are your enemy! They are evil racists and sexists! Hate them!

>> No.8847215

>>8847199
>le ebin ideology man
The """alt-right""" is a fake boogeyman made up by the liberal media. It's not a real thing.

>> No.8847217

>>8846653
>all they do at night is listen to black metal
FTFY

>> No.8847218

>>8847210
You are using newspeak right now. You can either hate a group or be part of them according to your thinking.

I said criticize you little toad.

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8847219

>>8847177
>I take an objective standpoint on things
>I consider both sides of the argument

>> No.8847222

>>8847210
>You're falling for the lies of Jews!
>We aren't racist!

Hmm

>> No.8847225

>>8847218
>>8847222
First week on 4chan, huh?

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>>8847215

>> No.8847228

>>8847225
Yeah, just got here from reddit, why do you ask?

>> No.8847229

>>8847187
If you just came here to meme about how /pol/ and the Alt-Right are better and more well read because they see the "truth", then please just fucking go. It's not even funny memeing, it's just obnoxious.

>> No.8847235

>>8847229
No, but good job misinterpreting the post.
>muh moderate man
>muh both sides are bad
>i HATE the alt-right, the media told me to!
>/pol/ is dumb hateful shitposters I HATE them!

>> No.8847238

>>8847229
Its part of their ideology though, thats why they hate it. They associate themselves with shitposters as a defense mechanism then it falls back on them when they try to be taken seriously

>> No.8847246

>>8847238
The alt-right is not a movement. It's just a label the (((media))) gave to 4chan shitposters and plants like Spencer so that their viewers have an easy target to hate. People who fall for the meme are retard redditors, you can just imagine them, slack-jawed in front of the television whining about Drumpf xD.

Those evil Nazi alt-righters, you should hate them, not us!

>> No.8847250

>>8847218
>newspeak
kill yourself, why do you have to shoehorn muh 1984 goobydooby bullshit into every conversation?

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>>8847246
You're right it isn't a movement, its essentially an ideological attitude. An attitude you are perfectly displaying right now

>> No.8847261

>>8847252
>muh ideological attitude
>muh im the only objective, non-ideological one here
dumb zizekposter

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>>8847261
>>muh im the only objective, non-ideological one here

This itself is a purely ideological projection

>> No.8847276

>>8847235
You keep making dumb arguments that I didn't even address.

>muh moderate man
Isn't it possible for people to have nuanced opinions on things without blindly following an ideology?

>muh both sides are bad
Well they both are bad when both attempt to stifle any real critical thought and provide one answer to everything they perceive to be wrong in the world

>I hate the Alt-Right
I do, but because they're so obnoxious

>/pol/ is dumb hateful shitposters, I hate them
Well I do, because they're obnoxious. Are you seriously trying to insinuate they aren't shitposters?

>> No.8847308

>>8846653
>the alt-right is probably one of the most well-read political movements out there
maybe you can suggest where to find these people, because at least around here these alt-right types seem to be nothing but a bunch of fucking retards. I seem to recall some comment i made in a thread on /pol/ having to do with different conceptions of equality, in which i suggested that what Hobbes is talking about in Leviathan is not equality in the sense of "muh feelings, muh minorities," was met with the following response: "hobbes is a jew shill"

>> No.8847315

>>8847276
>Are you seriously trying to insinuate they aren't shitposters?

This is what I was saying here >>8847238, they're just shitposters until it suits them

>> No.8847325

>>8846817
what is his understanding of neetzsche because I kind of doubt he has anything in that head.

>> No.8847333

>>8847219
what the hell kind of mental gymnastics does it take to justify indoctrinating yourself and stick your head in the dirt instead of being well informed

>> No.8847337

>>8847333
*tips fedora*

>> No.8847341

>>8847045
I mean, no one is better read than the establishment so I completely disagree with you there.

>> No.8847350

>>8847337
(you)

>> No.8847365

>>8847045
The alt-right is openly anti-intellectual so, no. I don't buy this argument.

>> No.8847386

>>8847365
how? cite your sources.

>> No.8847388

>>8846603
holy fuck kys

>> No.8847401

>>8847388
>wow he doesn't like my jewish globalist agenda

either you haven't read nietzsche or you agree with him.

it is FACTUAL that nietzsche wanted a breeding program between prussians and jews to progress the pan-european agenda.

>> No.8847402

>>8847386
How do your source twitter, /pol/ and youtube comments?
It would be rather contradictory to call them anti-intellectual then cite one of their academic journals

>> No.8847433

>>8847315
That's what bothers me about them, they pretend to be the hub of a grand and expansive movement when in reality, they are at best petulant children.

>> No.8847438

>>8847386
Anti-Globalist, anti-trade, anti-technocracy, openly ignores global warming science, knows nothing about economics, cherry picks philosophy and more than that just phrases from philosophy, claims to understand statistics but doesn't understand colinearity, and actually unironically racist (and I know, I'm likely to get heat for even bringing it up here but you have to be a mental degenerate to think the abstract generalities about race define every member of a race)

And, lastly. If you want to respond to this, try to address every one of these things instead of taking the easy road and only dealing with one or two of them because they all have to do with being anti-intellectual.

>> No.8847445

>>8847438
>Anti-Globalist, [...] , anti-technocracy
stopped reading there

you are the goodest of goys

>> No.8847446

>>8846589
Why is that guy relevant again? What did he do? All I know he is alt-right or something and /pol/ thinks he's funny.

>> No.8847450

>>8847446
He's a media plant. He isn't the "leader" of shit, he's just a boogeyman for the brainwashed masses.

>> No.8847453

>>8847445
>stopped reading there
The phrase that defines the alt-right's intellectual attitude.

If it doesn't agree with me, I won't read it!

>> No.8847459

>33 posters
>108 posts

Go back to >>>/reddit/ losers, this is not literature

Don't bother replying, sad!

>> No.8847464

>>8847453
>>8847445
lmao, rekt my man.

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>>8847453
I'm just a shitposter you pretentious wanker. I'm not the evil, irrational representative of an "ideology" that you hate for whatever reason. Just go back to listening to NPR and thinking about how you're just so much more intelligent than anyone else, how you have "nuanced" (read: reddit-tier) views. Just stop. The "alt-right" isn't a thing. A few retards acting like retards is a non-issue compared to actual destructive ideologies in the world right now.

Stop tilting at windmills.

>> No.8847468

>>8847459
>every post made at least 3 posts

How is this excessive for you? Perfectly average on a non meme board

>> No.8847471

>>8847453
>>8847464
samefag

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>>8847467
>I'm just a shitposter

He's doing it again

>> No.8847476

>>8847467
I'm not tilting windmills.

The phrase literally describes that attitude of the alt-right to anything that disagrees with them.

>> No.8847478

>>8847473
>ebil alt right shitposter pol frogman
This is fucking 4chan. Go to reddit if you want long, "thoughtful" posts you fucking teenager.

>> No.8847479

>>8847468
Go back to ribbit.

>> No.8847481

>we will never have a 100+ posts Hegel thread

>> No.8847484

>>8847478
>>8847479
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>> No.8847491

>>8847476
What? Are you retarded?

What is your issue with the "alt-right"? Why do you get so triggered that there are people that disagree with you? Why are you attacking an imaginary enemy? Are you really so brainwashed as to think that the "alt-right" is a threat to anyone, or somehow not a media invention?

I'm serious. Just go back to your liberal hugbox, reddit.

>> No.8847492

>>8847156
>alt-right here. it feels punk as fuck
>nice.meme

>> No.8847495

>>8847308
Well, since Hobbes denies objective (ie white) morality, he's not necessarily a Jew shill, but he is the first cultural marxist

>> No.8847496

>>8847484
>le everything i dont like is le irony
I want normalfag redditors to leave

>> No.8847497

>>8847484
Not ironic.

/pol/ is the new reddit and has been for two years.

Go back to where you came from.

>> No.8847498

>>8847497
>/pol/ is the new reddit
wew

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>>8847496
>>8847497
>01:14:16
>01:14:16
This is some impressive hivemind shitposting

>> No.8847502

I love how people get riled up over a few shitposters on /pol/ and a media plant and ignore the cancer that is liberal ideology.

We are truly controlled.

>> No.8847503

>>8847491
What are you even arguing? I come here, so clearly I'm not looking for a liberal hugbox.

My point is that /pol/ and a whole lot of 4chan is too lazy to actually do research and they would rather langour in their far right echo chamber.

>> No.8847504

>>8846589
Richard B Spencer has a reaally gay sounding voice though. I bet he has a gay nazi fetish blog on tumblr

>> No.8847508

>>8847503
>muh research
>muh echo chamber
Oh, I'm sorry, is the Internet not up to your intellectual level? Is that it? Everyone is just too dumb for you?

pretentious fag

>> No.8847509

>>8847504
this

>> No.8847510

>>8846653
>I mean must of their thing is muh culture and race so all they do at night is listen to classical music, read books and fantasize about Roman/Renaissance art.
Very naive of you. Their idea of classical music is Wagner. They'd rather listen to vapourwave anyway. Art threads usually boil down to the same 5 or 6 paintings, one Ilya Repin and a handful of bougereaus. As for lit, they hate fiction and the only philosopher they consistently like is Evola, who none of them have read. I get pretty butthurt at commies for reading only Marx but at least they read him. The only book they discuss that I reckon they have read is the bell curve, although I haven't read that so I don't know.

The best read right-wingers in my experience are catho-dox christians and Benoit-style New rightists (usually Euros)

>> No.8847511

>>8847502
Wow anon, you're so insightful, you just see things that other people don't!

>> No.8847514

>>8847510
books are for fags

use common sense and you'll become alt-right

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>>8847511

>> No.8847517

>>8847508
Yeah, pretty much.

I mean this is /lit/ after all. That's basically the defining feature of this board. In fact, nearly all of 4chan's social dynamics are built upon elitism.

I mean, where have you been going the last few years?

>> No.8847518

>>8847514
xD epic satire my friend!

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>>8847508
>I'll just listen to everything /pol/ tells me but never actually consider the actual things they're saying, my only response will be to call people a series of names such as "cuck", "shill", "lefty", and "nigger"!

>surely that will convince them that we're right!

>> No.8847524

>>8847514
This desu
I don't get why people are so scared to think for themselves

>> No.8847525

report this thread, thanks

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>>8847516
You're so redpilled dude!!!

>> No.8847533

>>8847520
>implying I'm /pol/
I AM SILLY!

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>>8847520
>thinking that someone is going to reply to insults with anything other than insults

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>>8847529
>this is why we hate you
what a shit post
>i cant ignore people saying nigger and being racist ironically
>WAAAAAAAAAAH