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Anonymous Mon Dec 5 16:07:20 2016 No.8804183 [Reply] [Original]

Oh my god, OP, don't get me started. The latest mainstream media meme is to talk about the "post-truth world" or about how "critical thinking" is lacking in people and can exclusively be taught in Universities by qualified Professors (the exact type of people who write those articles, coincidentally).

This is partly why I am insulting the literature industry relentlessly on here. These same journalists, social "scientists", "Critics", and "Critiquers" are telling you that you have to read 593 books a year about China, WW2, the Romans, the Greeks, sociology, psychology etc. or else you're supposedly dumb.

One of the funny ironies is that Shakespeare had less formal education than 12 year olds today and wrote for people with even less. Similarly for Dickens. The Greeks read practically fuck all compared to the laziest Party University freshman. Yet here we are in 2016, being crushed under the exponentially increasing BS and pseudo intellectualism. This is one of the reasons I check Nassim Taleb's twitter everyday

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 16:10:09 2016 No.8804195 >>8804183 we've been living in a post-truth world since postmodernism came to the fore in the 70s. Facts don't exist any more, just things that are in service of political ends

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 16:10:37 2016 No.8804197 >>8804183 no one cares, faggot

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 20:13:11 2016 No.8805153 >>8804183 Many people throughout the ages who wrote and did great work had little education. But did you know what they all had in common? They didn't post on 4chan, nigger.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 20:21:10 2016 No.8805187 who said shakespeare or dickens were smart or what anything they wrote wasn't pleb shit? whole lot of assumptions going on there senpai

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 20:26:14 2016 No.8805213 File: 446 KB, 1000x718, beee.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] chill out

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Anonymous Mon Dec 5 20:44:14 2016 No.8805274

>>8804183
None of it matters anyway. They're all a bunch of squares circle jerking each other pretending to be enlightened and too afraid to look in a mirror and realize that elitist behavior and thinking is exactly what put Donald Trump in the White House.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 20:48:48 2016 No.8805290 >>8804195 >implying "facts" ever existed

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 20:50:49 2016 No.8805296 >>8805290 tips fedora

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 20:52:28 2016 No.8805305 >>8805296 Are you seriously implying that people began distorting facts for political ideologies in the 70s? wew kid

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 20:54:06 2016 No.8805313 >>8805296 People have been distorting facts for political gain since the greeks, where do you think sophistry came from?

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Anonymous Mon Dec 5 20:55:51 2016 No.8805319
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Books are for fucking faggots. Yeah, I'm not scared of saying fag on your lefty board.

You don't need to read books to learn anything you need to know. You just need enough life experience. That's why democracy works so well. It lets the PEOPLE drive their country based on their life experience instead of making the country get cucked by intellectuals who have no idea how real life works.

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Anonymous Mon Dec 5 21:02:22 2016 No.8805345

>>8805319
>You don't need to read books to learn anything you need to know.

One only needs to know a profession to feed themselves and their family. A bricklayer only needs to know how to lay bricks, which is learned on the job. Literature and philosophy are about expanding one's perspective past the struggle of existence on and on to what may lay beyond that; if anything. Whether or not you personally believe that nothing important or true lies beyond the mundane and basic experiences of life is irrelevant; one could never know unless they pursued it.

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Anonymous Mon Dec 5 21:03:41 2016 No.8805352

>>8805345
>Literature and philosophy are about expanding one's perspective past the struggle of existence on and on to what may lay beyond that; if anything. Whether or not you personally believe that nothing important or true lies beyond the mundane and basic experiences of life is irrelevant; one could never know unless they pursued it.

You should learn all of this by thinking for yourself, not from reading mass market disinfo

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 21:04:02 2016 No.8805356 >>8805345 Good post, but why respond to such a shitposter?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 21:04:52 2016 No.8805359 >>8805319 >stravinsky >not gould's goldberg variations you're not even trying.

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Anonymous Mon Dec 5 21:09:44 2016 No.8805378

>>8805356
Whether or not he's genuine, I do find people take similar positions as an immature reaction to what they consider the "phony" cultural surrounding Academia and literature. It's a really dull opinion that each time I've encountered it, the boob babbling on thinks they're a truly enlightened soul

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 21:10:59 2016 No.8805383 >>8805378 That's fair. I'm glad there are still people with the patience to respond to posters like that on this site. Keep up the good work

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 21:15:34 2016 No.8805403 >>8804183 >The Greeks read practically fuck all Demonstrably false

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 21:18:34 2016 No.8805417 >>8805352 If you cared to read philosophy you'd understand how "learning by thinking of yourself" isn't possible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 21:18:44 2016 No.8805418 >>8805319 >that's why democracy works so well >literally country goes in riots over election, trying to force the electoral college to not do its job because "their gal" didn't win

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 21:19:41 2016 No.8805419 >>8805418 >electoral college >democracy

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 21:20:50 2016 No.8805423 >>8805352 >he thinks he can come close to over 2000 thousand years of philosophy by thinking for himself You wouldn't even say something plato hadn't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 21:21:02 2016 No.8805427 >>8805417 Yeah. Trust the philosophers who want to reeducate the public into passivity to tell you that you can't think for yourself >>8805418 >These USA >A democracy Lefty logic

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 21:22:05 2016 No.8805433 >>8805419 That's how the country works, and no one had a problem with it until the media favourite lost, and they wouldn't have had a problem with it if she won.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 21:23:08 2016 No.8805435 >>8805427 Ah ok cool, we're on the same page then, thought you were an amerifag

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Anonymous Mon Dec 5 21:25:15 2016 No.8805444

>>8805433
I understand your argument that this election has caused a lot of leftist arguments to get brought up to throw at Republicans (while Clinton has completely dropped off the map) but that doesn't change the fact the the electoral college is a republican and not a democratic institution.

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Anonymous Mon Dec 5 22:16:52 2016 No.8805648
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>>8804183
I agree with you for the most part.

It's not about how much you read, it's about what you read, and how much you get out of it. I think truly "smart" people utilized the information they get (selectively) and incorporate it in their own life-outlook and/or artwork. The selectivity is the important part, and is most telling of the personality of the author/artist. It's more interesting to see which works influenced the author and why, rather than circle-jerking about the thousands of books they read that are inconsequential to their life. That's more interesting to me at least.