When did you grow out of Theism?

[Anonymous No.8750744]

>burden of proof lies on those who assert God exists
>all proof from them is usually "muh feels" shit
>contradictions throughout the Bible
>Occam's Razor

As logical well read intellectuals you surely don't believe in God do you?

[Anonymous No.8750775]

>>8750744
nice reddit image

[Anonymous No.8750780]

>>8750744

studying philosophy and learning about science actually made me more open to theism. once the limitations of human knowledge thus far attained are known, even roughly, it seems foolish for us to simply rule out theistic worldviews.

for some of those views, a deity's existence does not necessarily conflict with science and i find it unnecessary when people try to discuss the two as if they exist in the same "realm".

[Anonymous No.8750792]

wow an "e=mc^2" and a molecule. this guy must be an intellectual

[None !4X8vLLNDE2 No.8750800]

>>8750775
actually is kind of a cool coverup tho

[Anonymous No.8750808]

>attempting to use logic on a being to whom logic doesn't apply
>attempting to detect a being that is superessential
>logic
>reason

[Anonymous No.8750827]

>>8750744

did joe rogan get this tattoo?

[Anonymous No.8750844]

>>8750744
HOLY I WANT MORE

[Anonymous No.8750849]

ahh i love monkeys!!! i'm a monkey too ooo aa ooo a!

[Anonymous No.8750860]

>>8750744
I grew up in a cristian family. When I was a kid I firmly believed in Jesus, but more than that, I believed in punishment, I actually feared hell and that was the strongest emotion that religion made me feel. But even then, i always was a little bit rebelious, at about 11 years old I started feeling like that shit didn't make sense. At about 13 years old I started questioning everything about it. In the last year of high school I still somewhat believed in that god, but I felt that no one could trully believe in the religion, that's when I fully dropped that, and it's been better to not feel judged or watched all the time.

[Anonymous No.8750877]

>>8750780
a true patrician

>>8750792
>molecule
a true plebeian

[Anonymous No.8750886]

>>8750744
There haven't been any good atheist intellectuals since the N-God desu.

[Anonymous No.8750892]

>>8750780
Not the same as "atheist," though. Being a deist does not make one a "theist," anon.

[Anonymous No.8750893]

>>8750780
This tbqh. My boy Soren can help you out OP.

[Anonymous No.8750896]

>>8750877
meant atom. I'm just as dumb as the tattoo guy, I gues

[Anonymous No.8750898]

Burden of Proof.

Faith if a load of shit.

It's on the same level as pointing a laser-pen into the sky trying to signal aliens, or contacting dead relatives with your mind.

[Anonymous No.8750909]

>>8750898
m'lady

[Anonymous No.8750911]

>>8750898
>he still works within the realm of 'proof' and 'truths'

you are so fucking level 1

[Anonymous No.8750924]

I started really looking at the history of Christianity and how it was handled throughout history, and I came to realize that it was all just bullshit that lasted way longer than it should have.

It started as an offshoot of Judaism (a religion that only applied to Jews) and eventually became an excuse for the Pope and other rulers to assert baseless authority over others.

It's a damn racket that humanity is better off leaving behind for good.

[Anonymous No.8750949]

>>8750780
Same here. My field is logic and computability. I've become much more agreeable to certain weak theistic claims (when you strip them of any cultural dressing, e.g. god is a bearded man in the sky)

[Anonymous No.8751004]

>>8750744

>replaced clean aesthetic trifunctional symbol with an ugly, meaningless image of a monkey

[Anonymous No.8751102]

>>8750924
>Wake up sheeple!!!1!!

[Anonymous No.8751111]

>>8751102
>OB1uHzb.gif

[Anonymous No.8751114]

>>8750744
>odds are we live in a simulation
Let's say we don't

>SOMETHING created the nothingness we came from
>we call that God
>theist are fucking retarded as the son of god nor god ever lived on earth. no way no how
So, if we don't assume simulation, then we came from "nothing" which no matter how many levels you go up, it had to start by something/someone. So there is a "God" in the sense that there is a "creator" of things. But to assume he has any say or though of us is insane. Literally insane. Those that think a man like God has created us and watches us for eternity with bated breath are absolute morons.

>occams razor
says that we evolved over billions of years of chance and being in a "goldilocks" planet. Which is something that happens from time to time in an infinite universe.

[Anonymous No.8751119]

I actually grew out of anti theism and into traditionalism. Militant secularism is itself a modernized variant of the Abrahamic meta-meme, on its Anglo-Protestant, radical democratic taxonomic branch, whose specific tradition is anti-traditionalism. The clamorous atheism of The God Delusion represents a protective feint, and a consistent upgrade of religious reformation, guided by a spirit of progressive enthusiasm that trumps empiricism and reason, whilst exemplifying an irritable dogmatism that rivals anything to be found in earlier God-themed strains

[Anonymous No.8751123]

>>8751111
I'll have a nicer filename for you next time anon. Nice digits.

[Anonymous No.8751131]

>>8751119
You write like shit. Stop trying to sound intelligent. The trick to ACTUALLY being smart is to explain things without sounding like an asshole.

[Anonymous No.8751436]

>>8750800
And it has E=mc^2 on it so you know he cares about SCIENCE!

Ever notice how there's a certain kind of person who will get a tattoo rather than actually caring and learning about what his tattoo is of?

[Anonymous No.8751444]

Around when I was 4. It doesnt take a genious to see grownups start getting stupid when you begin asking stuff about god and praying never worked wenn I wanted so... it was just naturally intuitive to conclude it's all bullshit....
Later I learned all the historic and cultural significance of theism and its foundation in psychology andtribal sociology , but ever since 5 I knew it is all a huge steaming pile of shit

[Anonymous No.8751446]

>>8750744
>that disgusting atomic model
>implying this man actually understands mass energy equivalence
>implying he knows what the bohr model is
>implying he can even read that musical notation
baka desu

[Anonymous No.8751449]

I converted a few years ago, after being raised with little to no religious influence, and swallowed up basically all the theology and shit I could. A few years later, I'm glad I went through that experience, but short of some critical piece/s of evidence or undeniably mystical experience, to force myself into belief would be intellectually dishonest. No disrespect to Christians, I have an appreciation for the religion now, and investigating it has given me a firm grounding in the history of philosophy and helped develop my critical thinking skills. I will still do my part to destroy the influence of Christian slave morality, however :^)

[Anonymous No.8751453]

>>8751123
and boy did you deliver.

[Anonymous No.8751455]

>>8751119
This is like addressing the topic through it's ass... only observing a stirred surface that has little to do with the actual process involved.
Like counting proliferating cells in a petri dish that u've left outside the lab through a broken microscope, where you have to hold the lenses in both hands, while balancing on a pogo stick

[Anonymous No.8751462]

>>8751114
>But to assume he has any say or though of us is insane. Literally insane. Those that think a man like God has created us and watches us for eternity with bated breath are absolute morons.
Ironically, you're ascribing human limitations to God. An all-powerful, all-seeing being would not have to be concerned about where his attention is directed, since there is no shortage of attention of his to be occupied. Only humans need to be concerned with 'important' things, because given the limited faculties we have we prioritise.

[Anonymous No.8751487]

>>8751455
What bothers me is there is hardly any consensus on the deffinition of this so called god concept.
Lets just skip all the moral bullshit and historical interpretations get straight to the farthest point.
God=existence itself. (Lets also add anti-existanceas a part of existence in the mix too)

Why do we exist and observe a world that we take part of?

If we could throwa code into existance by making it self awarewould that make us God?

I dont think any modern organised religion will be able to even speculate on those matters, because they not only had a different purpose : not to answer those questions but to prepare you to live your life with the answer they fabricated and that almost always has nothing to do with the phylosophical and logical reason, but all to do with morality and how to make you happier and those around you.

That is why religions concern themselves with death so much, cause it is the unseen part, the antiexistence which fits neatly into the omni potent god concept consisting of both.
This is the natural way religion evolved...through our understanding of logic... binding action and consequence and atributing the yo an outside forse when not in our control.

[Anonymous No.8751499]

>>8750909
How is by any means WRONG, motherfucker?
Religious.... not spiritual oragnostic or theist or deist or whatever...
Would you ever be a friend with a trully religious person?
A devoult muslim?
I don't think so!

[Anonymous No.8751507]

>>8751499
What are you rambling on about? How do you define 'religious' and why wouldn't we be friends with them?

[Anonymous No.8751509]

>>8751119
In non retard languge:
lets gradually reform the church, cause its contrast of old dogmas clashes good with the urge to change and democratise.
You my man, are a pussy atheist, what peopke call an agnostic

[Anonymous No.8751511]

>>8751509
>lets gradually reform the church, cause its contrast of old dogmas clashes good with the urge to change and democratise.
terrible idea

[Anonymous No.8751515]

>>8751507
Have you met a true believer. Do you have any idea how retarded religious people are..
...and what does religious mean?
To follow a specific spiritual tradition.....

[Anonymous No.8751518]

>>8751515
I have, I think. I started going to church a few years ago, but I stopped. They didn't seem particularly 'retarded', compared to the average person.

[Anonymous No.8751522]

>>8751515
Not to believe and question and gorm your own view of existence but to take the ready madetale about the human god and his son or the bloodthirsty gas cloud that insites fear and needs total submission

[Anonymous No.8751536]

Music, monkeys, brains, questioning, atoms, Saturn, space, relativity.

What do all these things have in common?

God created them.

[Anonymous No.8751544]

>>8750924
Christianity predates Judaism by several centuries. Judaism was only codified in about AD 300 when the Talmud was written down. The idea that Judaism is somehow the original, purer orthodoxy from which Christianity derived is just something kikes claim to delegitimize Christianity. The Judaism of today has nothing in common with the religion of the ancient Hebrews.

[Anonymous No.8751546]

>tfw nihilism is the only logical conclusion
>tfw even that is limited by the human understanding and perception

[Anonymous No.8751547]

>>8750780
This.

[Anonymous No.8751550]

>>8751507
What are you rambling on about? Do you have any idea how retarded the teachings of most religions are.... eat this, dont eat that, dont make sex in this and that way, be kind, be chill, give the ither cheek, be just..but dont go take any other religious teaching cause those suck,. And bla bla bla bla... let's all go to churches to have our moral compasses checked.... what a load of crap... that is what religious means , idiot!
Apart from a cultural tradition or an exploration of the metaphysical, I dont see how else religion can have a valid meaning in our lifes nowadays. ... it's an anachronistic set of law codes and moral dogmas, based on stupid stories

[Anonymous No.8751553]

>>8751119
You're dead right. Don't listen to those telling you to dumb things down.

[Anonymous No.8751556]

>believing that a man came back from the dead
>based on 2000-year-old eyewitness testimony

deism is reasonable to an extent but actual religion is too much entirely. it compels no one; you have to WANT to believe it.

[Anonymous No.8751560]

>>8751444
>not every believer is a learned theologian! that means religion is wrong!
>praying isn't a magic "give me nice things" button

Do you think that you maybe bypassed logical thought on your way to godlessness?

[Anonymous No.8751567]

>>8750744

>occam's razor

Occam's Razor would imply that God exists

[Anonymous No.8751570]

>>8751550
How did you find your way here?

[Anonymous No.8751574]

>>8750860
most atheists come out like this, I did too, but I chose not to be a retard and learn about theology before making my mind. Divine comedy had a great influence on me studying philosophy/theology too.

What bothers me the most is this, though: for atheists, christians are stupid plebs that are too dumb for """""science""""" and that atheists always have logic, reason and knowledge in their arguments, however, ironically, 95% of atheists haven't hold 1 book related to the subject.

>yea, we atheists are very smart, not me tho, I don't need it because I am already redpilled enough

[Anonymous No.8751579]

>not reconciling your understanding of cosmology with broadly deist and gnostic views to arrive at a hybrid quantum-mystic gnosis

get on my level plebs

[Anonymous No.8751584]

>>8750877
>heisenberg
POTTERY

[Anonymous No.8751586]

>>8751560
No, I'm telling you that since my childhood, I knew lies existed and I also instinctively knew this whole religion thing is one of those lies.

Praying didn't work. Kids and grownups around would make such outrageous claims about the bearded man in the sky and the angels and heaven and hell. that I just dismissed them altogether. No one in my family was actively religious and no one told me what to believe.
That was the question "When did you grow out of Theism?".
At 5 years of age

It's a scam, man, I'm sorry. even a child can get this if left on its own.
I'm telling the truth, even though you maybe think, I don't need to tell the truth if I don't believe in hell

[Anonymous No.8751588]

>>8751574
very much totally the opposite atheist can bury you with facts about religion and for most the label Christian is

[Anonymous No.8751593]

>>8751588
my phone is wet damn it:
very much totally the opposite. An atheist can bury you with facts about religion. And for most religious people just the label Christian is enough.

[Anonymous No.8751607]

>>8751570
Shall I make a list of lit I like to see why

[Anonymous No.8751617]

>>8751586
You had a kid understanding of the religion, and you still do. Do you really think people are going to explain the ins and outs of a complex religion to a 5 year old?

[Anonymous No.8751619]

>>8750744
When I was twelve. It wasn't a logic thing. It became a logic thing, but that's not why I left.

I left because I realised I'd been using God as my imaginary friend. Not that others did -- that I did. I used Him to feel special, to feel like I mattered more than everyone else. I had a kinda Taiping thing going on. I eventually realised it wasn't God at all, it was just my clutching at snowflakedom. This lead to agnosticism, then, when I could bear it, atheism.

And now I'm thinking about religion again. Funny how that goes.

[Anonymous No.8751627]

>>8750744
>>burden of proof lies on those who assert God exists
Ultimately this claim is a matter of faith and not proof anyway
>>all proof from them is usually "muh feels" shit
I would be leery of anyone claiming 'proof' of he existence of God (see above), but the issue doesn't simply reduce to 'feels' either
>>contradictions throughout the Bible
like what?
>>Occam's Razor
I think someone who believes in God would see Occam's Razor as not incompatible with faith

[Anonymous No.8751639]

>>8751627
>like what?
He is speaking from a (hypothetical) literal perspective. Think fundies.
>I think someone who believes in God would see Occam's Razor as not incompatible with faith
See above. Atheists are typically only familiar with fundies or the other, more stringent divisions of faith. They mistakenly come to believe that contradiction in one aspect (lol miracles can't exist) leads to contradiction in another (lol Prime Mover ???).

[Anonymous No.8751644]

>>8751617
Are you saying to understand religion and spirituality you are obliged to blindly believe in it first ?
I can understand it very well. It's not that I don't want to believe, it's just that I cannot.

Of course my understanding about my spiritual concerns were upgraded since.

>>8751619 like this guy says it is a very egoistic thing spiritualism, masturbation sort of. And I love to masturbate on such topics but it always point into the direction of the cosmological (like cosmology, the reason for existence) and to how to live your live like
>>8751487
I very much enjoy the compacted cultural myths and philosophies involved in the quest for religion from a historical perspective, how the inquiring quest for truth doesn't even stop at logic... when you can't figure it out you make a god concept..
The closest religions teaching to this would probably be Buddhism (for what I know of it so far), that really posts the right questions and goes directly to the source (the cosmological idea of existence)

idk, man

[Anonymous No.8751658]

>>8751644
For me the final paradox is:
if god is existence and creation, what does this have to do with religion

god=nature

... and from there it's just loose interpretations

[Anonymous No.8751660]

>>8751644
>>8751658
read aquinas my man

[Anonymous No.8751690]

Anyone who is completely sure one way or the other can not call themselves a true intellectual.

[Anonymous No.8751697]

>>8751550
Despite all the m'lady rampant in this thread this guy takes the cake for most immature/unintelligent poster I have seen on this board. Congratulations!!!!

[Anonymous No.8751704]

>>8750780
>actually made me more open to theism

It made me more open to deism, but not theism.

[Anonymous No.8751711]

>>8751697
thanks dude, I also do not think highly of you at all

[Anonymous No.8751712]

>>8750744
around 13 started to have doubts and think God is evil, at 16 told myself he doesn't exist till he left my head. Then I read more about atheism and watched arguments and formulated my opinion also on reason rather than emotions. But these days God seems like a comfy thing when I view him not out of fear as it was in my childhood. I really wish I could say "fuck logic" and pretend to believe in him, but I just can't, because I know nothing will come out of it and the world will continue to be the ruthless and meaningless hell it is. And no excuse whatsoever can justify God's indifference or allowance to this to happen.

[Anonymous No.8751728]

>>8751704
That's because you misread Aquinas lad

[Anonymous No.8751763]

>>8751712
Doesn't god have fundamentally different cognitive abilities than us? Wouldn't that effectively mean his reality is fundamentally different? That could explain his behavior or lack thereof.

[Anonymous No.8751767]

>>8751712
Why would god need an excuse? If he made the world with this much suffering is this not what the world is meant to be?

[Anonymous No.8751768]

>>8751763
we made him up. he is us

[Anonymous No.8751776]

You have to proof shit, because it's beliving and not knowing.

[Anonymous No.8751778]

>>8751768

I'm not ruling out that possibility. But assuming he exists then wouldn't those things I stated hold true?

A dog or house cat is probably really confused when they watch us because they simply do not possess the capacity to understand our motivations. I think it'd be the same way with us and God. God isn't purposely mysterious. We simply can't figure out the complexities though I know people like you would like to they are capable of such reasoning.

[Anonymous No.8751782]

>>8750780
Really, because the more that I know, makes me question anything written in favor of theology and only able to see them as moral compases of the day that keep trying to apply themselves thousands of years after conception. There are ideas that are good in every one of them, but so much bad can be attributed to anyone that their worth is pretty much gone. Knowing more and more we see how limited our knowledge is of both the micro and macro aspects of the universe, but never once has a model ever came to the conclusion 'god is the only answer'

[Anonymous No.8751783]

>>8751728
>That's because you misread Aquinas lad

I haven't read Aquinas tbqh. I have no interest.

[Anonymous No.8751788]

>>8751778
New age, the spirit of the universe and all that or Wicka for you. Next please!

[Anonymous No.8751793]

>>8751788

You must be a towering intellect to have such abilities of argumentation. /s

[Anonymous No.8751801]

>>8751574
If you are talking about a science book, or one that goes into heavier then what most of us came out of highschool with sure, but we also trust the really fuckin smart people because look at all they have done for us when religion has done, SO very little.

If you are talking about atheists and the bible, nothing makes you atheist faster than reading the book. I kind of stopped counting after the books called for my death somewhere over 100 times. But here is the thing, why live like there is a god? I know that there is something in 'well if you believe in god what is the harm but if you dont' argument, but knowing that everyone that isn't with you when you die is in hell would be hell in its own right, at least for me. I also don't believe hell can be that bad. eternal torment? what's going to happen? torture every day? Ill get use to it, If i can die for good? cool, I escape torture that way... There is no good argument for being fearful all your life of a sky daddy when the worst that can happen is a few years of torment before tedium sets in.

[Anonymous No.8751803]

>>8751004
Ill argue the monkey is better because it doesn't look crooked as fuck, I mean it may not be and its just muscle pulling it to make it look off, but it still looks off.

[Anonymous No.8751810]

>>8751788
Excuse me, which god are you talking about? Are you a Christian or a spiritualist, who is just dismissing all saints and myths, angels and hell?
What is this? You want to express your love and awe to the spiritual God by partaking into the philosophical meddlings from the Christian standpoint?
Say something new!
We cannot comprehend God, because he is incomprehensible to us like ants to the Internet...amen

yet you are sure it is "there", because of reasons

[Anonymous No.8751813]

>>8751639

Okay thank you. Yes, distinguishing Fundamentalists, Evangelicals, Mainline Protestants, and so on from each other is extremely important in a discussion like this, and it's unfortunate that everyone tends to get lumped together

[Anonymous No.8751814]

this >>8751810
to this guy >>8751793, wrong reply

[Anonymous No.8751820]

>>8750860
>>8751712
I find it incredibly funny how so many people, including prominent public figures, become atheistic during their teenage years. Certainly a period known for great decision-making and reasoning abilities.

[Anonymous No.8751836]

>>8751801

Not the same guy but I'm pretty sure that without religion we'd still be cavemen. It was a huge step in our journey to become the dominant species on Earth. If anything religion is the birthmark of self awareness. Also, a lot of the foundations of sciences were laid down by members of the clergy (and philosophers by extension).

I'm a deist but if there were a god I really don't think there would be anything to be afraid of. You seem to be living in just as much fear as traditional theists are.

[Anonymous No.8751844]

>>8750780
Started off Christian, then at an early youth for a short period Atheist bent. Settled into Agnosticism pretty quickly from high school to college. Studied religion and philosophy more seriously, felt a "spiritual urge" while reading about the various traditions and was basically looking around for "the right religion." Finally synthesized everything I'd learned, neutralized the theist-atheist dichotomy with panentheism/panendeism.

[Anonymous No.8751855]

>>8751844
Meant to quote OP, though I too had a similar stage of agnosticism, which has more or less fizzled out now. You can accept a truth like "science and theism don't contradict" for a while but actually reconciling those two positions is tougher and requires a new conclusion.

[Anonymous No.8751858]

>>8751844

every word of this is pretty much my diary desu

i like you anon

[Anonymous No.8751859]

>>8751820
As opposed to people that at no point question any inherited ideology, right?

[Anonymous No.8751870]

>>8750780

> once the limitations of human knowledge thus far attained are known, even roughly, it seems foolish for us to simply rule out theistic worldviews.

and thus we have Kant's most cowardly contribution to philosophy: that god is unknowable and all of our thoughts about god are merely symbolic.

[Anonymous No.8751881]

>>8751870

>mfw when i know there are unknown unknowns

[Anonymous No.8751882]

>>8751858
We made it, bro.

[Anonymous No.8751893]

>>8751870
>that god is unknowable

Well he is, which is why every single religion stresses faith.

[Anonymous No.8751897]

the day I won lit
>>8751444
>>8751487
>>8751499
>>8751509
>>8751515
>>8751550
>>8751586
>>8751593
>>8751644
>>8751658
>>8751788
>>8751810

[Anonymous No.8751922]

>>8751859
Questioning =/= renouncing based on a strawman boys version of religion.

[Anonymous No.8751981]

>>8751922
So questioning is great, but only if you don't question far enough to renounce an ideology based on doubt, because that's "a strawman boys version of religion"?

[Anonymous No.8751993]

>>8751981
repent don't dissent!

[Anonymous No.8751998]

I'm convinced religion is full of sociopaths, using a belief in a higher being as a serpents way of navigating law and morality to do as they wish

[Anonymous No.8752014]

>>8751998
This is probably true of some of them, but in some sense they aren't following the religion then are they?

If the Bible says you should speak the truth but you act like Machiavelli, I'm pretty sure that you're not really a believer.

[Anonymous No.8752019]

No, but Pascal's Wager

[Anonymous No.8752045]

>>8751763
Even so, is he unable to understand human suffering? If he exists and allows it then he's sadistic or not omnipotent. I'm talking about a theistic god, so I'll let myself use an example from the Bible. if I remember Job's story correctly from Bible lessons, it was God giving the devil a free hand on torturing Job in order to see how righteous he is. Job had all his property lost and his family dead, he got a skin disease and was completely humiliated. And at the end when he dares to question God, suddenly a voice from the sky or whatever tells him that basically he doesn't understand anything about the world and the fact that he was a righteous man doesn't mean he'll be rewarded. So, what's the point? If God exists he's probably nothing more than a psychopathic abusive father.
>inb4 afterlife
no thanks

[Anonymous No.8752072]

reddit has truly taken over

[Anonymous No.8752075]

>>8750792
>a molecule
You're not one to talk

[Anonymous No.8752080]

>>8750744
>being this butthurt
Don't worry, son, you'll get over adolescence soon.
Being knowlegable and insightfull doesn't negate G*d.
My friend once told me, when I was sure I understood something completely, that I'm only halfway into thinking about it. And that the answer lies beyond my horizon. If you look at an atom, you see subatomic particles, beyond that are more sub-subatomic particles, ad infinitum, and at the inconcievable end of that infinite chain is G*d.
The more you know, the more you're prone to believe in a higher power, no matter how you call it: G*d, The Universe, flying spaghetti monster etc.
Hope I helped.

[Anonymous No.8752085]

>>8752080
>G*d.

[Anonymous No.8752106]

>>8752085
;>)

[Anonymous No.8752114]

God and the Bible are pretty good stuff but the ritualistic aspect of religion always felt bizarre to me, although I'm not sure if it's because or in spite of going to church every sunday for the first decade of my life.

[Anonymous No.8752126]

Being raised a Catholic, I pushed religion away before my teens. I slowly gained legitimate reasons to write off God but now I just reject religion. I can never disprove God, but I feel all religious texts are full of it.

[Anonymous No.8752455]

I'm fine with deism. I don't really see why anyone would be a theist and actually follow a religion though.

[Anonymous No.8752510]

That's the tattoo of someone who follows "I Fucking Love Science" on Facebook.

[Anonymous No.8752521]

>>8750800
you have a shit aesthetic sense bro

[Anonymous No.8752570]

I went through a Catholic phase like other tryhards here, since it represents a rich cultural tradition and is sufficiently politically incorrect to be cool.
At the end though, it really is a cultural thing, rather than a genuine philosophical commitment. Religious belief has huge glaring issues that quite naturally lead people to skepticism, you can only sidestep this if you read so much scholasticism that you lose focus from the real world.

I've switched to Marxism desu

[Anonymous No.8752599]

>>8752570
>Catholicism
Disgusting

Anyway, don't you think it's a bit presumptuous to say that everyone had the same reason to go through a catholic phase (implying that is what they are doing) as you?

[Anonymous No.8753125]

If you follow Ockham's Razor then you must be a Last Thursdayist; everything in the world was spontaneously created last thurday including all 'history' and memory.
>Muh Ockham's Razor

[Anonymous No.8753188]

>>8750744
>burden of proof lies on those who assert God exists
Unsupported statement.
Try again

[Anonymous No.8753267]

>>8753188
>Unsupported statement.
>Try again
Unsupported statement.
Try again

[Anonymous No.8753320]

>>8752570
>Catholicism has such glaring holes and is disconnected from reality so I switched to Marxism.

:I

[Anonymous No.8753554]

This man seems to be somewhat impulsive in adopting worldviews.

[Anonymous No.8753601]

>>8752570
>scholastic philosophy is disconnected from reality so I became a Marxist


What
The
Actual
Fuck
Lads

[Anonymous No.8753604]

>>8750780
This is the true patrician view right here. There are only so many things raw logic and reason can comprehend. The concept of some higher power, some unknowable force or energy, or some hidden nature of the universe shouldn't be entirely ruled out. Deism is the most /lit/ belief and Jefferson was a patrician.

[Anonymous No.8753626]

>>8752072
t. angry obese midwestern american christian

Don't worry buddy, we'll try not to tease you too hard about the whole evolution denial thing.