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875005 No.875005 [Reply] [Original]

Will those goddamn sciencefags and engineerfags ever learn that not all philosophy majors are the continental postmodern scum currently infesting philosophy departments?

It's getting really annoying.

>> No.875009

Whats the matter some Engineers and Scientists stole your lunch? Oh wait you are a philosopher, you don't really have much to eat anyway. :)

>> No.875016

>>875009

>implying law and academia don't pay well and have great benefits

Seriously, though, it's getting annoying. I can't even mention I'm a philosophag without getting that moronic "lol whatcha gonna do wit dat?"

>> No.875018

Why is Kubo in that pic?

>> No.875023

>>875016
Yes because obviously every Engineer or Scientist is always brilliant. It would be foolish to think that some of them are just as bad as the "postmodern scum" that infests today's philosophy.

>> No.875027

You know, trolling is pretty postmodern, op. Camus was an essayist and novelist. Foucault, is a historian so you're correct in that respect.

>> No.875038

>>875018
Well Kubo is a philosopher of "The Heart".

>> No.875039

>>875027

Camus was a writer of terrific philosophical literature. Foucault wasn't anything; he just gets intellectually sucked off by aging lesbians.

>> No.875042

>>875023

Oh I agree with you. It's just that most engineers/scientists don't realize this.

>> No.875046

whait why sartre?

>> No.875053

>>875046

Pseudo-intellectual asshat who supported the Soviets. That's why he and Camus fell out.

>> No.875067

>>875005
>continental postmodern scum currently infesting philosophy departments

Not in the US they sure as hell aren't.

>> No.875070

>>875067

lol, you've obviously never been to a non-ivy-league American university.

>> No.875076

>>875005
>my face when analytic philosophy fags are so insecure they're desperately seeking the approval of sciencefags and engineerfags

Don't get me wrong, there's a lot wrong with postmodern shit, but that's just sad man.

>> No.875089

>>875076

Oh, I hate that naive-realist ass-kissing as much as anybody; our foundational epistemological assumptions should always be questioned.

But philosophy has become so overridden by Marxist lesbians I don't know where to turn nowadays.

>> No.875105

>i don't understand postmodern philosophy

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>>875089
>philosophy has become so overridden by Marxist lesbians

>> No.875110

>>875039
you mad? obviously. But the question is at whom. Is it the lesbians who disregard your pathetic and misguided attempts at sexual advance? OR is it Foucault for writing startling, illuminating exposes on cultural assumptions which you can't compute?

>> No.875111

Why is Sartre on the Not Philosopher side?

I bet you read only the Nausea and thought that was about it with him.

>> No.875114

>>875089
Maybe you should turn back in time where/when you obviously belong.

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>>875110

You are the reason people hate philosophy majors.

>> No.875133

After Santayana and Dewey, philosophy got gay.

>> No.875132

>>875114

I don't have a problem with lesbians. I just hate Marxists and feminists (which they inevitably are).

>> No.875129

>>875117
Not even a philosophy major. Seriously, I know you're trolling, and doing a fair job at it.

>> No.875147

>>875132
Really? That isn't even a fact and you're acting like it is? Also, yeah you're a special snowflake for not liking Marxism and not liking (read: not understanding) feminism.

>> No.875149

>>875111

Nah. He was a terrible philosopher, and hardly the father of atheistic existentialism like his fans make him out to be.

>> No.875159

>>875147
>Implying a misogynist can't understand feminism.

>> No.875160

>>875147

Marxism is dumb empirically, not just normatively.

Feminism is dumb because men and women generally (with notable exceptions) have different intellectual capabilities.

You know why men rule society, and always will?

Because we created it.

>> No.875163

>>875132
Hey, I'm a Marxist, and I have sex with women!

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>>875133

So basically you read this book and called it quits.

>> No.875169
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875169

<- One of the few good continental philosophers.

>"You are going to women? Do not forget the whip!"

>> No.875174

>>875160
Your mother could've aborted you pretty easily, you know. All it would take was one simple fall down the staircase and you wouldn't be here.

Just sayin'.

>> No.875176

>>875173

Go on...

>> No.875173

>>875169
Hey I have sex with Marxists and I use a whip!

>> No.875181

>>875163

>Marxist
>no understanding of history or economics

The "materialist conception of history" is fucking retarded and it will always be retarded. Marxism has been outdated since the age of factories and robber-barons ended. Objectivism has more fucking credibility.

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>> No.875183

>>875149

He wasn't the father of atheistic atheism, but surely he was its major figure, and his non-fiction is notable at least.

I also disagree with Kant, but calling him a non-philosopher would not make sense. So is it for Sartre.

>> No.875185

>>875174

See, that's typical of a continental. Sophistry and non-sequiturs. Your butt-buddy Foucault would be proud.

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>>875176

>> No.875193

>>875183

His non-fiction feigns profundity, and that's about it. He's nothing compared to Camus or Dostoevsky.

>> No.875200

>>875181

>Objectivism has more fucking credibility

Hey, fellow non-Marxist. Don't jump on hypperbolic insults like that.

>> No.875203

>>875160
>implying feminism's goal is for women to control society
like i said, you don't understand.

>> No.875209

>>875200

It does. Rand at least had a basic understanding of economics.

>> No.875213

>>875209
Rilly?

>> No.875216

>>875203

I never implied that, you presumptuous faggot. I don't think women should enjoy an equal social status with men. There are certainly a few exceptions, but women are by-and-large less intelligent than men (at least by the standards of those who created society as we know it).

>> No.875214

>>875193

I feel our opinions about Sartre and Camus are diametrically opposed... I'd say Camus's nonfiction merely feigns profundity, and that he's nothing compared to Sartre and Dostoewski...

Meh.

>> No.875231

A hundred years from now Deleuze and Heidegger will be remembered as the best and most popular Philosophers of the 20th century.

Btw; if you hate Continental scum why do you put Nietzsche on the Philosophers bracket? If anyone is the driving force of the Continental School it's Nietzsche.

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>>875214

>> No.875237

>>875231

see
>>875169

>> No.875242

>>875216
homosexuality detected. and, confirmed. if you aren't gay, you're lying to yourself. Also, you are 14. Mentally, or otherwise.

>> No.875253

>>875237
That's what I don't get. The philosophy is extremly similar between Foucault and Nietzsche. Nietzsche is just a better writer and has more fun with it; while Foucault likes using the same Philosophical approach and thought and applying it to real world examples. It seems like you think that the value of a Philosophy is in how cool it seems on the surface to an adolescent cynic.

>> No.875260

>>875242

I'm not gay, I think women should serve intelligent and meritorious men as concubines. Unintelligent men can work as soldiers and laborers. The few women as intelligent as the many intelligent men would enjoy completely equal social privileges.

In the end, though, it's a statistical fact that there are less high-IQ women than high-IQ men. Granted, there are more low-IQ men than low-IQ women, but I don't see that as posing a credible threat to my position; ultimately, men have greater potential, and women are usually worth little more than the pleasure they can provide to men of import.

>> No.875271

>>875260
IQ tests are pseudo-science. Something that I am sure you love and admire, as you wish to live in previous centuries. Good luck with that. When I build my time machine, I'll let you come with, bro.

>> No.875276

>>875253

Bullshit. The only consistent thing about Nietzschean philosophy (and it's still pushing it) is perspectivism, which gets way too intertwined with postmodern faggotry.

>> No.875278

>>875271

They're not pseudo-science. They just reflect standards of intelligence which happen to coincide with those held by the men who created society as we know it. You're butthurt because they don't mesh with your egalitarian nonsense.

>> No.875298

>>875278
No, they are just not scientifically rigorous. This is a fact. They are arbitrary. I'm not even contesting your perspective on society, as that is clearly pointless.

>> No.875308

>>875298

Well, of course. The point isn't to quantify intelligence as if it were a natural property of the universe, it's to (subjectively, as all creators of intelligence tests would admit) gauge it in terms of commonly-held social standards.

>> No.875345

>>875005
Well let's not forget Hegel and Shopenhauer

>> No.875364

>>875308
>>875298


you two should just have angry buttsex and get it over with

>> No.875366

Philosophy is the science of estimating values. The superiority of any
state or substance over another is determined by philosophy. By assigning a
position of primary importance to what remains when all that is secondary
has been removed, philosophy thus becomes the true index of priority or emphasis in the
realm of speculative thought. The mission of philosophy a priori is to establish the relation
of manifested things to their invisible ultimate cause or nature.

>> No.875369

>>875366

“Philosophy,” writes Sir William Hamilton, “has been defined [as]: The science of things
divine and human, and of the causes in which they are contained [Cicero]; The science of
effects by their causes [Hobbes]; The science of sufficient reasons [Leibnitz]; The science
of things possible, inasmuch as they are possible [Wolf]; The science of things evidently
deduced from first principles [Descartes]; The science of truths, sensible and abstract
[de Condillac]; The application of reason to its legitimate objects [Tennemann]; The science
of the relations of all knowledge to the necessary ends of human reason [Kant];The
science of the original form of the ego or mental self [Krug]; The science of sciences
[Fichte]; The science of the absolute [von Schelling]; The science of the absolute indifference
of the ideal and real [von Schelling] – or, The identity of identity and non-identity
[Hegel].” (See Lectures on Metaphysics and Logic.)

>> No.875370

>>875369

The six headings under which the disciplines of philosophy are commonly classified
are: metaphysics, which deals with such abstract subjects as cosmology, theology, and the
nature of being; logic, which deals with the laws governing rational thinking, or, as it has
been called, “the doctrine of fallacies”; ethics, which is the science of morality, individual
responsibility, and character – concerned chiefly with an effort to determine the nature of
good; psychology, which is devoted to investigation and classification of those forms of
phenomena referable to a mental origin; epistemology, which is the science concerned
primarily with the nature of knowledge itself and the question of whether it may exist in
an absolute form; and æsthetics, which is the science of the nature of and the reactions
awakened by the beautiful, the harmonious, the elegant, and the noble.

>> No.875372

>>875370

Plato regarded philosophy as the greatest good ever imparted by Divinity to man. In the
twentieth century, however, it has become a ponderous and complicated structure of arbitrary
and irreconcilable notions – yet each substantiated by almost incontestible logic. The lofty
theorems of the old Academy which Iamblichus likened to the nectar and ambrosia of the
gods have been so adulterated by opinion – which Heraclitus declared to be a falling sickness
of the mind – that the heavenly mead would now be quite unrecognizable to this great Neo-
Platonist. Convincing evidence of the increasing superficiality of modern scientific and philosophic
thought is its persistent drift towards materialism. When the great astronomer Laplace
was asked by Napoleon why he had not mentioned God in his Traité de la Mécanique Céleste,
the mathematician naively replied: “Sire, I had no need for that hypothesis!”

>> No.875393

Goddamn Foucault...

>> No.875397

>>875169
oh yeah,the guy who only had sex ONE FUCKING TIME IN HIS LIFE, and got an STD from it.

>> No.875401

>>875393
Wrong, guess again

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>>875005
>Foucault is not a philosopher
>my face

>> No.875434

>>875430

Enjoy your Marxist-Lesbianism.

>>875414

Fuck yeah Hesiod.

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875438

>this thread

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>>875434
>Marxist-Lesbianism
>lesbianism
>my face

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875444

I'd like to lump in her proletariat, if you know what I mean.

>> No.875452

>>875434
>Marxist-Lesbianism
that's pretty hot, must admit

>> No.875453

I am more concerned with the Anglo-American philosophical propensity to completely ignore dialectics

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875460

hey guise, i'm a philosopher too!

>> No.875462

>>875453
>philosophical propensity to completely ignore dialectics

Sounds like we got ourselves a LIBERAL here.

>> No.875470

Meh, i think most of the 'philosophers' in the OPs pick are boring hacks anyway- aside from spinoza.

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875472

>this thread

>> No.875475

fucking hippies

>> No.875480

Why in Kali's name is daniel denettes photo up there, he is such an artard

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I prefer centrist feminists.