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Has anyone been able to rebut Bertrand Russell's famous argument In Marriage and Morals? Einstein even gave great praise to the work

>Love as a relation between men and women was ruined by the desire to make sure of the legitimacy of children.

>The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot coexist with a serious affection for another. Everybody knows that this is untrue.

>Even in civilised mankind faint traces of a monogamic instinct can sometimes be perceived.

>I should not hold it desirable that either a man or a woman should enter upon the serious business of a marriage intended to lead to children without having had previous sexual experience.

>Science enables us to realise our purposes, and if our purposes are evil, the result is disaster.

>Joy of life... depends upon a certain spontaneity in regard to sex. Where sex is repressed, only work remains, and a gospel of work for work's sake never produced any work worth doing.

>Gluttony is regarded by the Catholic Church as one of the seven deadly sins, and those who practise it are placed by Dante in one of the deeper circles of hell; but it is a somewhat vague sin, since it is hard to say where a legitimate interest in food ceases and guilt begins to be incurred. Is it wicked to eat anything that is not nourishing? If so, with every salted almond we risk damnation.

Russell's father allowed Russell's mother to sleep with Russell's tutor, and Bertrand Russell grew up to be a genius and win the Nobel Peace Prize.

>> No.8720578

>>8720560
i feel he legitimately missed the point on the seven deadly sins. gluttony is not enjoying a meal gluttony is enjoying a meal so much that it is a central part of our lives and it isn't only regarding food it is essentially saying that god is more important than sensuality

>> No.8720589

get this cuck shit out of here

>> No.8720590

>>8720578
Russell is a legendary point-misser.
I think this is why his writing on religion doesn't have many rebuttals: to refute him would require explaining to him the things he's writing about, and that doesn't make for a good paper.

>> No.8720597

>>8720560
>win the Nobel Peace Prize.
Well shit, can't argue with his points after he received such a prestigious prize.

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>>8720597
couldn't agree more

>> No.8720620

>>8720597
Well, it was actually the literature prize, so it's a little less memey.

>> No.8720628

>>8720620
Isn't that the one Bob Dylan won?

>> No.8720635

>>8720628
yeah but lit prize has only been memey for about 1% of the time meanwhile the peace price has been memey a 100% of the time

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>>8720620
couldn't agree more

>> No.8720664

>>8720560
>>Love as a relation between men and women was ruined by the desire to make sure of the legitimacy of children.
This desire was caused by agriculture and civilisation itself.

Only hunter-gatherer bands can permit to all cuck each other since all resources are shared.

>> No.8720667

>>8720578
>>8720590
If you read his stuff on Nitch it's enough to disregard the cunt entirely forever.

>> No.8720680

>>8720560
>re sex is repressed, only work remains, and a gospel of work for work's sake never produced any work worth doing.
so is he disregarding all of Newton, Tesla, and whichever other wizard's work?

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>>8720560

>> No.8720721

No, you dumb mofo. Attraction is there in order to perpetuate what you like of yourself and the other person. Get out of here with this body/mind shit.

>> No.8721447

>>8720560
>>Gluttony is regarded by the Catholic Church as one of the seven deadly sins, and those who practise it are placed by Dante in one of the deeper circles of hell

that's not true though, guttony is only the second circle of hell

>> No.8721456

>>8721447
Gotta love a can you rebut Russell thread. In many ways worse than Churchill for the level of misplaced respect he receives.