What is the most /lit/ college? [spoiler] Please help me, I have no idea where to apply in December. I'm majoring in English and Economics, want to go to a liberal arts college, have a 3.3 GPA, very high class rigor, and a 32 ACT. [/spoiler]

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Anonymous Fri Nov 11 12:53:36 2016 No.8713842 [DELETED]

What is the most /lit/ college?

Please help me, I have no idea where to apply in December. I'm majoring in English and Economics, want to go to a liberal arts college, have a 3.3 GPA, very high class rigor, and a 32 ACT.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 13:01:50 2016 No.8713860 Duke, UVA. I chose UVA because it was closer to home and so I didn't have to put up with elitist assholes for 8 years. I doubt you'd get into duke anyways with that gpa, Jesus

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 13:19:24 2016 No.8713892 >>8713860 >I hate elitists >wow your gpa sucks

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 13:24:12 2016 No.8713900 >>8713892 It does though. How do you manage that in high school?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 14:01:42 2016 No.8713990 >>8713900 I'm aware of that. I had a lot of shit going on that frankly is none of your goddamn business.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 14:29:41 2016 No.8714033 bump

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 14:30:28 2016 No.8714036 >>8713990 mcdonalds university

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 14:31:24 2016 No.8714037 >>8714036 That's actually 20 minutes my house, no lie

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 14:31:40 2016 No.8714038 >>8713990 try ur local public university

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 14:31:54 2016 No.8714039 >>8713900 I didn't graduate high school (had a 2.3 GPA starting senior year but dropped out to go to CC) and went to a uni that squeaked into top 50 but I am probably smarter than you. High school doesn't mean shit ese.

Anonymous Fri Nov 11 14:32:58 2016 No.8714040
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>>8713842

Do what I did and go to CC for 2 years, then a decent state school for your degree. I went to a T10 state school and my degree is still worth a lot.

Now I have my pick of elite law schools.

Don't fall for the elite school meme. Save money.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 14:33:36 2016 No.8714045 >>8714038 I already applied, but that's not very /lit/ is it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 14:34:43 2016 No.8714047 >>8713842 >wants to get into the most /lit college >3.3 GPA in fucking high school Bud, just quit. Try for clown college.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 14:35:38 2016 No.8714050 >>8714039 "i am probably smarter than you" -less smart people trying to justify themselves online

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 14:36:53 2016 No.8714051 >>8714050 Now I know that I am definitely smarter than you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 14:38:02 2016 No.8714053 >>8714037 i know.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 14:48:24 2016 No.8714078 I regret this thread so much. Fuck you /lit/

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 15:24:43 2016 No.8714174 >>8714051 Okay bud

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 15:28:27 2016 No.8714185 the university of my dick lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 15:28:52 2016 No.8714186 >>8713842 You're not majoring in anything yet, dont be annoying.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 15:30:24 2016 No.8714191 >>8714078 It's not our fault that you're a dumbass, bud

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 15:32:36 2016 No.8714194 >>8714078 Oh yeah? Well my dick is 10 inches long and my IQ is mensa-verified as 162. I have a perfect 4.0 GPA and I go to Princeton. So suck on that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 15:35:07 2016 No.8714202 >>8713842 your GPA is shit. But don't be discouraged! If you get above a 3.5 GPA in honors classes during your first 2 year course, you might be allowed into a school that's worth a shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 15:36:11 2016 No.8714206 choose a college based on career potential retard. Money is freedom. No money = publish tons of shit books like steven king and nobody takes you seriously.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 15:38:09 2016 No.8714218 >>8714194 >member of mensa >4.0 instead of 3.8 perma 99%er detected

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 16:01:31 2016 No.8714272 /lit/ is so insecure, goddamn. No one cares about your gpa.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 16:10:16 2016 No.8714309 >>8713842 Anon ignore everyone in this thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 16:24:40 2016 No.8714338 Join the Marines

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 17:37:25 2016 No.8714486 >>8714338 Eric please go to bed

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 17:41:18 2016 No.8714495 >>8714194 Hi Henry!

Anonymous Fri Nov 11 17:57:58 2016 No.8714539
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>>8713842
The most lit college is going to any college then dropping out with 6 credits left in your degree to live in a dimly lit basement and chainsmoke and read and write.

Anonymous Fri Nov 11 17:58:13 2016 No.8714542

>>8713842
OP, the most /lit/ colleges in America, are, without a doubt, the Little Three: Amherst, Wesleyan and Williams. Your ACT score is close to the mean of the scores admitted by those colleges, but that doesn't mean as much: you should write brilliant essays. Considering you frequent /lit/ and intend on majoring in english, you should really show your love for and knowledge about literature, the arts etc.

Also, be sure to get a rec letter from your favorite english teacher in which they say how much you really read and how good you are analyzing literature. Hope that helps.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 17:59:52 2016 No.8714547 >>8714542 ew those schools are full of girls

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 18:00:43 2016 No.8714551 >>8714547 Smart girls, yeah.

Anonymous Fri Nov 11 18:03:18 2016 No.8714555

That choice of major will serve you well. I took those two majors and am working as a financial analyst in a F500 company.

I don't think it matters much where you go, but you might think about some cheap, public liberal arts colleges. They're lit as FUCK and won't leave you too deep in the hole. Otherwise, big flagship schools are fine as long as you make some connections along the way.

I also want to recommend that you take some accounting or computer programming electives while you're in school. Sometimes econ degrees have a hard time selling themselves for internships and jobs because there's no "branding" or w/e. Just make sure you can articulate why you want a certain position, etc.

Don't stress too much. Don't stress too much about your choice in college or the career that comes next. You're going to be fine.

Best of luck.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 18:06:55 2016 No.8714563 >>8714551 wtf i love smart girls now??!?!?!

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 18:10:10 2016 No.8714569 >>8714555 What are those two majors? I'm doing computer information systems + supply chain management right now

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 22:57:07 2016 No.8715271 >>8713842 St. John's college in Annapolis, without a doubt also, stop going on /lit/

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 11 23:26:17 2016 No.8715319 >>8713842 >English and econ >good /lit/ scene >Liberal arts college Most of the NESCACs would be good for you. I'd recommend Hamilton.

Anonymous Fri Nov 11 23:33:59 2016 No.8715329

>>8714040
Your degree is actually pointless because not a single law school cares where you went to undergrad, only your GPA.

>>8713842
OP, you shouldn't go to a LAC unless you go to a good one. Otherwise, it's just a massive money hole. And you ain't gettin' into Amherst, Williams, or Wesleyan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 00:09:47 2016 No.8715401 >>8715271 This, they'll give you lotsa money too, go.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 00:10:17 2016 No.8715403 >>8715319 Why Hamilton? It looks nice but I'm just wondering what stands out about it

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 00:14:22 2016 No.8715411 File: 14 KB, 364x322, 1402692163174.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8715403 >>8715319 >he's going to pay 50 Gs per YEAR for an undergrad degree in econ and lit from a university that nobody cares about SHIGGY

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 00:16:14 2016 No.8715412 >>8713842 University of Zimbabwe

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 00:46:36 2016 No.8715474 >>8715411 If you're paying that much, either you got fucked or your parents are rich as hell

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 00:49:12 2016 No.8715486 >>8715474 Yeah, yeah, most people get some grants, I'm sure. I bet the majority still end up paying around 50 regardless, after they have to cover rent, other living expenses, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 00:55:59 2016 No.8715501 >>8713842 >3.3 gpa >32 act holy shit what a retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 01:00:39 2016 No.8715509 >>8715501 lmao exactly >muh muh I wasn't trying hard! muh muh I was having daddy issues! Getting a 4.0 in high school is ridiculously easy for anyone relatively intelligent.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 01:45:50 2016 No.8715592 >>8715271 Yep

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 01:53:44 2016 No.8715601

>tfw 33 ACT and sub 3.0 gpa

In my defense i moved to the US from england in sophmore year and never gave a fuck. I still got into an ok state school just off of test scores though, so I guess the only thing it cost me was muh ivy league. ivy leaguers are smarmy douchebags anyway

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 02:01:29 2016 No.8715617

Why is everyone freaking out about this guy's GPA as if it's the only thing colleges look at? I mean his ACT score is pretty damn good and as long as he has other tricks up his sleeve in terms of extracurriculars, he doesn't have a bad chance.

I've heard good things about Bowdoin, but it's super selective and most likely elitist as fuck.

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 02:03:27 2016 No.8715620

>>8715509
In AP classes? Not really. Maybe your high school was just really easy? Everyone I know with 4.0s work hours every night.

>muh muh I was having daddy issues!

Actually I had untreated bipolar disorder but whatever man. Try caring about school while in a crippling depressive episode, it's not easy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 02:34:24 2016 No.8715668 bump

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 03:24:57 2016 No.8715719 >>8715509 Why are you being such an asshole? Who hurt you so bad, friend?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 05:12:54 2016 No.8715811 Bard or any Hudson Valley college if you're willing to drop 100k lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 08:01:19 2016 No.8716010 >>8715319 >>8714542 I have the opportunity to go to either Tufts, Wesleyan or Hamilton on exchange (son free tuition). What are the pro/cons?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 08:12:02 2016 No.8716030 go to a school where the girls will let you cum inside them without a condom

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 08:35:06 2016 No.8716072

>>8713842

You can probably make it to a tier 3 normie college (e.g. Northwestern, Wesleyan, BC, BU - basically look up colleges with rankings 100 - 25) with your ACT score

but i why would you want to go to a "/lit/" college other than superficial LARPing reasons

your shit is fucked already with your GPA fampai, just learn a trade and write about real life

college is so fucking fake and not worth it if 1) you're from a pleb family and it'll fuck them over with >100k in loans or 2) you're not setting out to do medicine / science / law / investment banking / consulting / tech

don't try to break into these "elite" strata of society, there's nothing on the other side that you don't already have. i lived among these people for years, they are basically social climbing WASP LARPers or satanic actual WASPs who want to feed off of plebs like you who would do anything to break into their little club. it's all fucked. make your art for yourself. don't feed their machine by buying a worthless meme tier major for 250k

t. top5 undergrad / grad

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 09:34:42 2016 No.8716233

>>8714542
Applying ED to Wesleyan rn (was previously going to try Cornell but switched last second) because based on my 'research', they have one of the best film programs in the country. However, I'm also intending on majoring in English, and I don't know much about the English programs at Wesleyan (or the other Little Three colleges for that matter). Anyone have good info on either? Also, I have 2250 SATs, 3.9 GPA, and a shitload of 'art' supplements ranging from a few books to long-ass graphic novels I wrote. Do I have a good shot of getting in? (I'm honestly blind to the process as far as it concerns this stuff)

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 09:37:36 2016 No.8716243 >>8714051 >>8714050 >>8714039 >'smart' wew now im SPOOKED

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 09:39:57 2016 No.8716248 >>8714194 Mfw actually the dick is the biggest statistical outlier here

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 09:58:12 2016 No.8716282 >>8714039 >probably smarter than you classic dunning-krueger

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 10:01:29 2016 No.8716290 >>>/adv/

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 10:07:57 2016 No.8716297 >>8715509 >Why are you judging people so damn hard, you're taking your point of views a bit too farrrrr.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 10:09:02 2016 No.8716299 This non lit thread made me realize the types of people the come on lit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 10:12:50 2016 No.8716309 >>8716233 Your grades are excellent as are your supplements. You'll get in if you write some decent essays and aren't asian. I got into NYU with worse stats

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 10:13:45 2016 No.8716312 >>8713842 >he fell for the university meme

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 10:15:11 2016 No.8716316 If you're in Australia try Campion College http://www.campion.edu.au/studies/ba-course-outline/

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 10:31:52 2016 No.8716352

>>8713860
>>8713900
i had an unweighted 3.3 in HS because i had better things to do than busywork

still went to a decent state school and now im at an ivy for my grad program (ranked higher than duke btw, both for UG and my program).

im sure uva was great tho, pal. hope wasting your youth just to go to a state school was worth it!

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 10:46:56 2016 No.8716388 >>8713842 St. John's College in Annapolis. Tip Top fucking tier. Just make sure you have a grad school in mind afterwords.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 10:51:13 2016 No.8716393 File: 16 KB, 265x265, IMG_0823.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mfw my GPA is worse than OP's and all of these people are callling him retarded

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 10:53:23 2016 No.8716396

>>8716352
Did you go straight into a PhD program? How does it look if you get a masters as a mediocre state school but have good writing samples and have presented at good conferences? Should I probably try to get published in the gap year I'll be taking between programs?

Also, how did you go about finding where you might fit? Right now, I really want to go to Yale because Elinor Fuchs is still there, but I want to find other comparative literature programs that have significant focuses on theater studies.

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>>8715329

Nor do they care if I went for Chinese Aroma Therapy or Physics.

The beauty of law school admissions.

But that's not what I would advise OP to do.

I have a 3.8 in finance from a state school with a rigorous, esteemed finance program. I paid close to nothing.

CC > State school getting a non-shit degree is the only way to go.

But even if you get a shit degree you can make it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 11:19:35 2016 No.8716433 File: 88 KB, 994x1012, nervous doggos.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw just send in oxford postgrad application i actually took that one oxford copypasta to heart

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 11:21:14 2016 No.8716437

>>8716396
I went straight through. I'm actually in a professional program so I can't comment authoritatively, but from my experience top programs really aren't prejudiced about where you went previously as long as you did well. Going to state school in a flyover state seems to be a disadvantage though, almost everyone here is from the Northeast or the East/West Coast.

I'm obviously not doing anything lit related, but my best advice would be not to settle. If you have the raw capability, you can always improve your credentials. I had the good fortune of getting into a top program on my first cycle, but my 'mentor' in undergrad told me he applied four or five consecutive cycles to get into his PhD program. One year he made a fortuitous personal connection and finally cracked the top 10.

Theater is super interesting! I hope you find a program you really like. I'm not sure how you would go about finding a fit in your field, but e-mailing the department at various top schools might be a good start. I'm assuming living somewhere with a thriving theater scene would help as well. NYU would probably be good in that respect.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 11:33:07 2016 No.8716454 File: 450 KB, 492x319, TALSMA.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The American Literary, Scientific, and Military Academy

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 12:21:24 2016 No.8716581 >>8716433 Which department? Haven't seen the pasta but I'm writing my application now and getting nervous

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 12:23:48 2016 No.8716589 >>8716352 >wasting youth I literally got published in high school. Stop trying to defend your dumb ass in high school

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 12:25:49 2016 No.8716594 Is it okay to go to a mediocre/shit school for a if you plan on going to grad school after? I didn't have the money to go to a good school even though I got accepted. >>8714040 >>8714040 wtf i love john green now?

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>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 12:34:50 2016 No.8716614 >>8716589 In high school some of us were spending time with Stacy under the autumn leaves rather than sperging about uni admissions with our asian helicopter moms and submitting shitty poems to the school yearbook. Now you tell me what's more lit

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 12:36:27 2016 No.8716617

Speaking of uni, STEM fag here who just dropped out of EE.
Should I major in Petroleum? My uni is one of the best in the country for PE but I don't know how much of the "oil downturn/limited specialization" stuff is just a meme.
It'll take me 3 years to graduate and by that time Trump should be in full swing. He'll be good for the oil industry right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 12:37:26 2016 No.8716620 File: 39 KB, 446x362, 667d726f46badfec536a8164e918ec2012bec779a05472330d14170aec465a96.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8716614 thanks asshole

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 12:38:51 2016 No.8716627 >>8716617 Petroleum isn't worth it, alternative energy is going to be YUGE in the future. From what I've read, petroleum engineering is legitimate dog shit, unless you want money that badly. Have you considered Industrial, or Civil?

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 12:40:34 2016 No.8716631

>>8716617
I'm a ChemE who is about to graduate.

Don't do Petroleum Engineering. We get a lot of recruiters here in California for oil companies but the real growth is in materials and biotech (biotech is huge). Can you do just Chemical Engineering? That would be a better choice because you are just as competitive with oil companies.

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 12:43:24 2016 No.8716643

>>8716627
>>8716631

Can't do those. Industrial/Civil/Mech/EE/CE are all grouped together in the same college, which I got booted out of. PE is in a different college though so it's still available to me. In fact it's the only engineering discipline that is.
Why does everyone say PE is suddenly so shit? Only a couple years ago it was the bomb and everyone was leaving school with guaranteed jobs and six-figure incomes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 12:44:21 2016 No.8716648 >>8713842 why is there grass on the roof

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 12:46:01 2016 No.8716654 >>8716631 I'm in chemical engineering right now, I was planning on going into biochemical processes, or nanomaterials. Are either of these fields suitable right now? I'm also going to go for an M.Eng. in materials sciences.

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 12:48:08 2016 No.8716662

>>8716643
>Why does everyone say PE is suddenly so shit?
It's been shit for a while. The industry doesn't require as many engineers as before and now there is more competition. Expanding production capacity won't create as many engineering jobs as it will create lower skill jobs. The fields of the future that you want to get into are more high tech than petrochemicals. There is a lot of money in biomedical research fields right now.

>>8716654
> I was planning on going into biochemical processes
If you want to live in the Bay Area you will do great. Like I said earlier biotech is the next big thing. Nano is actually what I do research in and that's another field with high growth, especially if you want to do research.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 12:50:17 2016 No.8716671 >>8716662 Should also clarify bay area as SF bay area. San Diego also has a booming biotech scene as well. I'm sure there are also plenty of opportunities in bio on the east coast, probably centered around Boston (MIT).

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 12:52:23 2016 No.8716676

>>8716662

What would you recommend? Bail on engineering entirely? I already entirely made it through the math and physics requirements and am also 30K in debt, so I can't just switch into women's studies or something.
What if I grabbed a PE degree with a minor in another engineering field, like an EE minor? Would that be worth anything?

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 12:59:24 2016 No.8716694

>>8716676
Minors are pretty worthless for engineering, you're better off focusing on getting good grades in your major.

Maybe you should study chemistry or biochemistry but it really depends on what you are comfortable doing. It sounds like engineering is not your thing so I would recommend just dropping it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 13:00:19 2016 No.8716696 >>8716676 Are you doing public or private research? What's a better graduate degree, a MaSc or a M.Eng? Or should I go for a PhD?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 13:01:59 2016 No.8716707 >>8713842 >want to go to a liberal arts college Get a STEM degree you faggot. Liberal arts degrees will get you nowhere in life.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 13:05:46 2016 No.8716712 >>8716707 Look up salaries for econ majors...

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 13:07:28 2016 No.8716719

>>8716696
I'm doing undergrad research at a public uni, will go for my PhD. I think M. Eng is better for people who want to work in industry. Most people get their masters and get their doctorate later but for the high tech fields like bio the common trend is to go straight for the PhD.

There are probably a lot of resources at your college too. I am in a pre-phd program for "disadvantaged" students so I get my info from workshops I attend through that program. I would recommend you talk to some graduate retention advisors about what is a good plan, they can also put you in touch with people that have experience. Your professors all have PhDs so they are a good resource.

>>8716707
Please don't give us a bad name. STEM isn't everything. Being a polymath is where it's at.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 13:27:20 2016 No.8716765 >>8716581 mathematical modelling desu not lit at all even if i get to the interview stage theres no way ill get in

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 13:34:00 2016 No.8716782 File: 42 KB, 400x462, plebs_disgust_me.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Everyone talking about no name schools >Most /lit/ >No Oxbridge >No Ivy

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 13:34:45 2016 No.8716785

>>8716719
I actually talked with my gen. chem prof about how to get an RA position over the summer. I'm in a coop program so this summer is going to be the only term I can get something related to research done. Looks like I'm gonna be leaning towards a PhD program after undergrad, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 14:03:51 2016 No.8716872 >>8716765 It's okay anon, they have to let somebody in. I'm applying for the DPhil. Hope to see you there

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 14:46:24 2016 No.8716974 I had a 2.95 GPA in high school

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 15:49:50 2016 No.8717134 >>8713990 so did every fucking NEET. quit your fucking pretext or shut the fuck up about how you'll never be /lit/

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 16:01:18 2016 No.8717166 >>8716589 >>8716614 btfo

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 18:41:32 2016 No.8717577 >>8716428 Yeah, but how is the LSAT anyway? I'm a freshman in uni, should I study for it now?

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 18:52:45 2016 No.8717608

>>8715329
They actually don't care much about your GPA, either. Your LSAT counts for far more. I had a 2.79 when I sent out applications (I fucked around my first two years) and was accepted by what was the #20 law school in the country at the time. Can't speak to the T14 schools, #20 was the highest ranked school I applied to, but anyway there ya go.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 18:59:12 2016 No.8717622 >>8717608 can you answer my question, thanks >>8717577

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:05:44 2016 No.8717637 >>8717608 GPA matters for t14.

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:10:18 2016 No.8717648

>>8717577
>should I study for it now?
fuck no

6 months is more than enough time to study for that test, and if you don't hit your target you can just take a gap year and no life it. Getting a 170 truly isnt hard.

ignore my advice if you want to go to Yale though, because they average scores. If you want Yale I'd say just take a gap year and no-life for the June test.

t. /t14butnotYale/

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:13:33 2016 No.8717653 >>8717648 How many times are you allowed to retake the exam? I'm aiming for CCN and Harvard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:19:06 2016 No.8717667 >>8717648 >>8717653 but ultimately the t14 is fine desu. How difficult is it to get into the t14? Stats?

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Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:25:25 2016 No.8717680

>>8717653
>>8717667
you can take it 3 times per two years iirc

LSAC gpa weights A+ as 4.3 so try to get those. My GPA ended up being a 3.95 because of that. Scored in the 170s even though I fucked up and scored like 3 points lower than my practice test average.

its not hard to get into a T14, but its literally a numbers game. pick a less rigorous major that interests you and try your damnedest to get As.

My strategy was to enroll in the max amount of units per term, get like 6 or 7 course syllabi, and then just pick the 4 or so easiest classes that still fulfilled my graduation requirements. Don't be afraid of of dropping a class with a W (as long as it's not counted as an F by your school). I took two Ws and had no issues, they didn't even show up on my LSAC transcripts. Better one or two Ws than a B- or worse.

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:26:17 2016 No.8717681

>>8717622
You don't need to start studying until probably a couple months before you take it, depending on your competency with what it tests, but you'll want to be able to dedicate a decent amount of time to it once you do start studying. It basically tests your reasoning and logic. Can you identify the argument being made? Assumptions? Flaws? The hardest part for most people at first is the logic games, but that is also the easiest part to learn how to handle. There are only a few types of games and each one has a specific way to draw it out to solve it.

If you can swing it, take a Kaplan course. It was about $1200 when I took it back in 2006, but worth every penny. If not, get some books off amazon. Start by just doing individual problems until you start to get comfortable, then do entire sections with a timer, then entire practice tests in testing conditions.

I followed that routine, studying at least a few hours each day, usually more on days when I didn't have Kaplan, and in about six weeks' time I went from a baseline 160, which would've gotten me into mediocre state schools, to a 171, which would easily get me into most schools, and probably just about any school if I'd had even a moderately good GPA.

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:30:11 2016 No.8717689

>>8717681
>>8717653
>>8717667

>The hardest part for most people at first is the logic games, but that is also the easiest part to learn how to handle.
I'm going to second this.

Most people never improve their Reading Comprehension score by more than a point or two, so if you suck at that or run out of time I would honestly give up (also why are you on /lit/ if thats the case)

>Kaplan course
i took a testmasters course. same story. totally worth it. forced me to study way more than i would have, and its comprehensive. ignore the memers who say to just read the powerscore bibles.

my diagnostic was a 167. the highest i scored on a timed practice test was a 179.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:30:31 2016 No.8717691 >>8717678 sup, 2 blocks away from it right now

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:37:31 2016 No.8717711 >>8717689 >Most people never improve their Reading Comprehension score by more than a point or two, so if you suck at that or run out of time I would honestly give up should i just an hero if i do poorly on that portion of the exam?

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:39:13 2016 No.8717714

>>8714040

This advice is exactly wrong. Take it from someone in biglaw. Sure it's easy to get into a T14 law school if you get ok grades and from there biglaw is easy to get.

But an elite undergrad is all about the connections and the amazing intellectual environment, which was much better than my T6 law school.

Most importantly, elite colleges, esp. in the Ivy League are often cheaper than state schools because the financial aid is the best there is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:40:58 2016 No.8717719 >>8717714 >ok grades define "ok"

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:43:16 2016 No.8717723

>>8717719

Law school is all GPA and LSAT. I had friends in law school who had 3.5-6s from good undergrads but they destroyed the LSAT. A lot of people were gunners with 3.9+ in college but their LSATs were a little lower.

I read that law school is also significantly easier to get into nowadays because the number of apps has tanked. Law school debt is unbelievable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:46:08 2016 No.8717731 >>8717723 Fuck, this is exactly what I wanted to hear. Thanks dude. I'm gonna go balls deep in my sister and will be chanting your name. (What's your name, by the way?)

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:48:32 2016 No.8717739 >>8716782 We're talking US schools and top LACs are better than Ivies for Humanities desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:49:21 2016 No.8717740 >>8714539 >dropping out >not being academically disqualified

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:50:12 2016 No.8717742

>>8717731

No problem. I wouldn't try to put all your eggs in the LSAT basket. I did that and it worked out, but one weird trick on the exam on test day and you're sunk.

I would advise majoring in the humanities and just getting easy As if you're really set on law school. Then get a good LSAT too and you're looking at HYS. Yale Law (i.e. legal theory classes with no pressure for jobs) is the dream, my man.

Most impt: don't do it unless you really think you want to be a lawyer because let me tell you the job can be pretty stultifying and if you take on law school debt there is absolutely no way out. Good luck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 19:54:38 2016 No.8717747 >>8717742 I'm majoring in Computer Information Systems (Business), and it's a pretty easy major. If I don't make it to the t14, I'll at least be able to work in IT. Currently at a 4.0, but I'm afraid of the LSAT senpai.

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 20:00:03 2016 No.8717757

>>8717742
>Most impt: don't do it unless you really think you want to be a lawyer because let me tell you the job can be pretty stultifying and if you take on law school debt there is absolutely no way out. Good luck.

This. Except change "really think" to "know". I graduated with 78k in debt, even with a 50% scholly for the first two years and will never practice.

There is a way out, though. If you work a state job for 10 years and make good payments on government loans during that time, the remainder will be forgiven. Assuming this is still in effect nine years from now, I'll end up only paying about 25k of that debt.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 20:04:48 2016 No.8717767 >>8717757 >will never practice. So what do you do now? Did you go to a t14?

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 20:08:03 2016 No.8717771

>>8717747

That GPA gives you a LOT of cushion. The only real advice here is take as many practice tests as possible under conditions near as possible to testing conditions. Powerscore Bible is the key for the logic games. Given your major, though, you should do pretty well if you like thinking in terms of informal logic and that sort of thing.

>>8717757

Sorry to heat that. Did you end up not practicing by choice? And you're right to point out the forgiveness programs - even the one for private sector is pretty good. They forgive after 25 years of payments, but it's always a percentage of your income, which is pretty reasonable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 20:08:28 2016 No.8717773 >>8713842 Iowa, pham.

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 20:13:20 2016 No.8717778
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>>8713842

The answer is, of course, Yale.

Harold Bloom aside, the English dept. is legendary. In my experience it's the only real well-known literature department, even among the smart set.

>>8717773

The creative writing program is top notch, but that's where you get your MFA after you've been out there hacking away for a while.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 20:32:20 2016 No.8717822 >>8717771 Is it possible to find a qt at a t14 to make ur waifu?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 20:36:59 2016 No.8717838 >>8714539 Pretty much exactly what I did. I wasn't even trying to do that either, it just naturally happened, I'm naturally that lit.

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 21:00:56 2016 No.8717882

>lsat discussion
Taking the LSAT in December.. I'm not sure what to do. I took it before and scored 164, however, this wasn't a good score for me. I was extremely anxious and couldn't think properly during the test. I ended up not even reaching the last RC passage and last 4-5 LR questions one section. I can hit mid-170s durings PTs frequently. Thinking of taking Xanax...

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 21:06:22 2016 No.8717891 >>8717882 go for adderall

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 21:08:04 2016 No.8717894 >>8717891 >has anxiety issues >recommends an amphetamine are you retarded or just trying to ruin his life?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 21:08:42 2016 No.8717896 >>8717894 the latter

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 21:42:02 2016 No.8717956 >>8716614 this guy gets it

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 22:10:36 2016 No.8718025

>>8717767
>>8717771
Yeah, by choice. I spent time working and interning in a few different areas while in school and hated it all. I teach English and creative writing at an alternative high school now. Thank goodness the payments are calculated according to income. It's still tough with all of my other bills, but manageable.

I didn't go to a t14, but still a decent school. Ranked right around 50, but more importantly it had a few prestigious (top 5-10 nationally) programs within the law school and was located in the state capital, so there were plenty of opportunities for work. I spent time with one non-profit and two state agencies who all highly encouraged me to talk to them when I graduated. One of the agencies pretty much guaranteed that if they had an entry level position open it would be mine. But holy shit it was just the most mind-numbing work. It made me miserable when it was 20 hours a week (maybe 30 if you counted work I did at home), never mind the 60-70 it would've been. I make enough money as a teacher for the lifestyle I desire, and I absolutely love what I do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 22:23:24 2016 No.8718057 >>8718025 Oh, and I also started coaching the mock trial team at the traditional high school next door this year.

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 22:27:33 2016 No.8718065
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>>8717714

>But an elite undergrad is all about the connections and the amazing intellectual environment, which was much better than my T6 law school.

So tell me again how my advice is dead wrong after looking at OP's stats? It's quite obvious he's not getting into an uber elite school and loan debt is almost wholly dependent upon your parents income at that point (good luck being a middle class white male).

I joined the Army after HS and never got a chance to attend an elite college, but my scores were the bees knees and I got accepted into a competitive (T10) state school in a competitive program at that.

I lived the shit out of my life for the past few years as well as enjoyed the shit out of high school. I'm rich in experience, whereas going into an Ivy straight out of HS for undergrad would've had me locked in an intense fervor competing with the chinks on every test with an acronym. I wouldn't have been able to live as a happy young guy with passions and a social network at that point.

>>8717577

For anyone considering law, it's a field chock-full of prestige whores. They don't care if you volunteered in Africa and have pictures with little Timbo and they certainly don't give a shit about what school you went to, which is a plus. They want to know two things: your GPA and your LSAT.

I would avoid law if you can't go T25, but doubly so if you can't go T50. It's saturated to an absurd degree. It also helps if your undergrad can be tailored to a specialty, like finance.

Take the LSAT dry and see how it goes. The logic games will annoy you but you'll pick them up quickly. I haven't matriculated yet, but I have scores that're competitive for HYS. That's with two years of my education payed for at a CC; not bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 22:28:54 2016 No.8718067 This thread is so fucking stupid. No one is even addressing the question they're just flexing their GPAs and talking about law school

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 22:34:53 2016 No.8718082 >>8716072 Hey, I go to one of those schools.

Anonymous Sat Nov 12 22:45:36 2016 No.8718118

>>8717577
You shouldn't study for it as a freshman, holy shit. You probably shouldn't even think about law school. Find something else to do if you can. 3 months of solid studying will be fine to get you into the ~170 range. Don't waste money on any moron courses. Just get the PowerScore books, pirate all the past LSATs, and do those.

>>8717711
That part is hard to improve. I've heard TLS suggests various methods, outlining, etc. to improve, but I'm not sure how well those work.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 22:56:18 2016 No.8718147 >>8715271 Fuck I wish I had gone to this school, didn't learn of its existence until after I was in college

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 23:04:40 2016 No.8718164 >>8718067 I don't even want to think about how shitty your school is Move along, dumbass

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 12 23:12:19 2016 No.8718184 >>8718067 The question is retarded to begin with, might as well let people talk about what they want to talk about

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