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>tfw want to get into American literature and philosophy but it all seems so boring to me

What can I read to get into the genre?

>> No.8683324

>genre
3/8 I chuckled.

>> No.8683334

>>8683318
>implying American philosophy isn't just American political philosophy

Try again.

>> No.8683340

>>8683318
Read Hemingway and then Faulkner. Just to cement the fact that all American novels are the same.

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As for philosophy

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>> No.8683347

>>8683318

American writers I like

Walt Whiman
Flannery o Connor
Poe
Hawthorne
Faulkner
Melville

Dont like Hemingway

Havent read Pynchon or the Infinite Jest guys due to fear of them being memes.

>> No.8683348

>>8683346
>no lovecraft
shit list.

>> No.8683370

>>8683347

pynchon may get memed around here but hes an amazing author. dfw is ok.

>> No.8683378

>>8683318
Nothing. If you're not already interested in analytic philosophy, which is the tradition worthwhile American philosophers exclusively find themselves within, then you're never going to enjoy it

>> No.8683387

>>8683378
>implying anyone but Quine has really found themselves in analytic philosophy
And Quine's work is shitty -- at best. It's caused more problems than solved, really.

>> No.8683425

>>8683346
desu senpai that list is awful

>> No.8683433

Why are Eurotrash memes so lame?

>> No.8683439

So no one in this thread has ever heard of Transcendentalism? Yikes

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>> No.8683448

>>8683318
Read Nozick

>> No.8683456

>>8683318
Read some of Emerson's essays, particularly self-reliance.

>> No.8683471

>>8683447
Amen.

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>>8683447

>> No.8683564

>>8683447
this picture was take before fedoras existed

>> No.8683592

>>8683564
Not surprised that /lit/ can't appreciate Thoreau.

>> No.8683605

>>8683347
>no Emerson

Emerson is probably the most basic and fundamental thinker in the American humanities outside of the revolutionaries.

>> No.8683611

>>8683564
Not before neckbeards though. Notice how cleanly his jaw is separated from his beard.

That is literally a fucking beard growing from his neck.

>> No.8683678

>>8683387
Lewis, Mellor, Kripke, Sider, Parfit, Gettier, Putnam, etc etc. What's shitty about Quine?

>> No.8684482

>>8683346
Not even the best Gertrude Stein
>The Grapes of Wrath
>good
>implying
What's with all the black authors, and no James Baldwin?
>Nabokov
Kerouac a shit
That's not Burroughs' best
lel fuck Harper Lee
>Plath >Plath >Plath
Wasn't Saul Bellow Canadian?
>Vonnegut >Vonnegut >Vonnegut
What's with all this entry-level lit?
>American Pastoral
>Not trash
Where's Mason & Dixon? Where's V.?
>No Suttree
If you're gonna include White Noise might as well put in Ratner's Star too
>No Pale King

2/10

>> No.8684527

Where is Wallace Stevens? Ezra Pound, Baldwin, Pynchon, Burroughs, Ralph Ellison, Roth etc.

lots of good shit

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>when someone says there's no good American philosophy

>> No.8684565

>>8684527
>mentioning Baldwin and Ellison in the same breath as Pound and Stevens

>> No.8684657

>>8684565
Pound is overrated

>> No.8684660

>>8684657
He's underrated if anything

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>>8684660
*Overweighted

>> No.8686746

>>8684545
This is true. Pragmatism got its start in the US, and between Peirce, William James, Dewey, and Rorty, it has certainly been influential.

>> No.8686787

Start with the Founding Fathers

>> No.8686818

I wasn't aware American literature was boring...

>>8683471
I second that

>> No.8687422 [DELETED] 

This guy gets it. The Federalist Papers and Common Sense are the shit.

t. europoor wishing he was american

>> No.8687435

>>8686787
This guy gets it. The Federalist Papers and Common Sense are the shit.

t. europoor wishing he was american