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Understandably, this board is primarily interested in Western literature, due to which the Greeks are given the importance which they rightly deserve. But as anyone who has gone in for a serious study of the ancient Hellenes will observe, there are definite cultural ties through which not only tangible objects but abstract ideas like philosophy and mythology were exchanged between Greece and near-eastern kingdoms. An important example that comes to my mind is that of the influence of Near-Eastern mythology on Greek mythology (see Hesiod in this regard).

But there is very little in way of discussion or even recommended material on this board when it comes to the near-eastern cultures. Have you read or come across any books (introductory, or in-depth, doesn't matter) which can be beneficial to someone studying the near-eastern cultures in order to understand the Greeks and their lives and times better?

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>>8677207
I only know this one op, but probably you have it contemplated already.

>> No.8677302

the ancient mesopotamian mythology belongs to the european culture since we accepted the modified jewish god as ours, because mesopotamian mythology clearly affected the bible, the flood myth is nearly the same as it is told in gilgamesh, the book of job reminds the poem of the righteous sufferer, the bible even has an allusion to the cedar forest from giglamesh (negatively ofc, isaiah 14:8), it also mentions tammuz (ezekiel 8:14-15) etc

>> No.8677305
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>Not starting with the Egyptians
Sigh

>> No.8677312

>>8677305
pre-ptolemaic egyptian civilization contributed nothing to humanity

>> No.8677316

>>8677312
they taught socrates :3

>> No.8677345

>>8677312
>Mistaking absence (or lack) of evidence for evidence of absence
Sigh.

>> No.8677357

>>8677345
Burden of proof faggo.

You need to be TOLD until you LEARN.

>> No.8678059

>>8677305
Seems like we wuz kangs to me

>> No.8678147

>>8677357
So who says you are not making an argument of ignorance? Have you read the book?
The book actually talks of Egyptian philosophy having influenced Greek philosophy, which seems unlikely to very unlikely given what we know of Egyptian philosophy and Greek philosophy. Or at least not a significant influence that is detectable.
The comment I was replying to, however, talks of pre-ptolemaic Egyptian civilization not contributing to humanity. That is a very different claim. Right?

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If you're only interested in the Egyptians to study the Greeks then you're doing it wrong. There isn't really any relevance. Their literature's supreme beauty is its own reward.
Quite a bit of Greek mythology and theology is in common with the Mesopotamians, but with a few exceptions (Dialogue of Pessimism is what comes to mind) the Mesopotamians' literature is pretty awful. And if you're only interested in the Greeks you've seen enough with Daley, you should look at Ugaritic texts instead. But even that is merely a few shared myths, nothing really enlightening.

>> No.8679062

>>8677305
black excellence...